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04-19-2009, 10:40 AM
CIA tortured in 2002 and 2003, or did it?
Below are portions of newly released memos. I think that this should be discussed here in a civil and intelligent way. Just like any other issue in a cafe. Also, I think that the CIA was wrong in doing what is described here and at the links. The United States should never be about torture in my opinion. And it rarely if ever works. below from the memos...
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the memo explains:
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
also at empyty wheel, firedoglake.com
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-she... (http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-was-waterboarded-183-times-in-one-month) /
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) /
Below are portions of newly released memos. I think that this should be discussed here in a civil and intelligent way. Just like any other issue in a cafe. Also, I think that the CIA was wrong in doing what is described here and at the links. The United States should never be about torture in my opinion. And it rarely if ever works. below from the memos...
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the memo explains:
The CIA used the waterboard "at least 83 times during August 2002" in the interrogation of Zubaydah. IG Report at 90, and 183 times during March 2003 in the interrogation of KSM, see id. at 91.
Note, the information comes from the CIA IG report which, in the case of Abu Zubaydah, is based on having viewed the torture tapes as well as other materials. So this is presumably a number that was once backed up by video evidence.
The same OLC memo passage explains how the CIA might manage to waterboard these men so many times in one month each (though even with these chilling numbers, the CIA's math doesn't add up).
also at empyty wheel, firedoglake.com
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-she... (http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-was-waterboarded-183-times-in-one-month) /
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) /