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Master Toon
03-21-2009, 04:36 PM
I was reading this really cool press release the other day about World Premiere Toons .aka. What A cartoon! Show. The press release talked about how Cartoon Network and Hanna-Barbera looked for new as well as accomplished cartoonists to help create fresh original cartoons. To once again get back to the golden age roots but with new (at the time) 90's elements. They wanted to get back to a tradition of making quality short cartoons just like before, to spawn new cartoon personalities. And they did! From What A Cartoon! Show we got such great shows as Johnny Bravo, The Powerpuff Girls, Cow & Chicken and Courage the Cowardly Dog. But will they be remembered as much as Scooby-Doo, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound and Josie and the Pussycats?

Racattack!Force
03-21-2009, 04:40 PM
Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Laboratory maybe, but I doubt the rest would be remembered as well.

Yusuke Urameshi
03-21-2009, 05:07 PM
I wouldnt leave out the possibility of Ed Ed n' eddy.

Racattack!Force
03-21-2009, 05:14 PM
I wouldnt leave out the possibility of Ed Ed n' eddy.The fact that EEnE is actually my favorite cartoon, yet I forgot to add it to my post scares me. :sweat:

Deadman
03-21-2009, 06:53 PM
i think the more popular cartoon cartons like dexters lab, and powerpuff girls will be as remembered as some classic hanna barbera shows. the less popular ones like sheep in the big city will just be forgotten though.

Smore
03-21-2009, 07:15 PM
Dexter and PPG for example = Remembered like Flinstones and Yogi Bear

Ones like Mike Lu and Og, and Sheep & the Big City = Remembered like Kwiky Koala and Goober and the Ghost Chasers

Dr.Pepper
03-21-2009, 07:54 PM
Dexter and PPG for example = Remembered like Flinstones and Yogi Bear

Ones like Mike Lu and Og, and Sheep & the Big City = Remembered like Kwiky Koala and Goober and the Ghost Chasers
And Robot Jones would be like Laverne and Shirley Join the Army

Jack_6428
03-21-2009, 08:15 PM
i remember and respect them all...i watched the whole thing, from World Premiere Toons -> What a Cartoon Show! -> Cartoon Cartoons -> Cartoon Cartoon Fridays...and it was great to live through this thing..i enjoyed it alot and if they didnt exist, CN in the 90s would have a small empty space...i hope the originals will get as much credit as the HB shows do..in a way they did redefine the stage, just like Toonami introduced and made anime popular in the US

Silverstar
03-22-2009, 09:58 AM
The successful CN originals (Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Cow & Chicken, Powerpuff Girls, Ed3, Billy & Mandy, Foster's) will likely be remembered fondly for a long time, provided they stay in the public eye in some form, via DVDs, reruns on Boomerang, ads and spots, games like FusionFall, etc. The lesser ones like Time Squad, Sheep, Robot Jones, Mike, Lu & Og et al are more likely to slip into the obscurity of future Trivia Pursuit questions and barroom/party conversation openers like, "Hey, do you remember this show that used to come on Cartoon Network called...?"

CyberCubed
03-22-2009, 06:04 PM
Absolutely not. Even the more popular ones like Powerpuff girls had nowhere near the same impact.

Flinstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo, Yogi Bear, etc have remained brand names for 40 years.

Dr.Pepper
03-22-2009, 06:12 PM
Absolutely not. Even the more popular ones like Powerpuff girls had nowhere near the same impact.

Flinstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo, Yogi Bear, etc have remained brand names for 40 years.
Just wait until the year 2049 before you say that.

Silverstar
03-22-2009, 06:13 PM
Absolutely not. Even the more popular ones like Powerpuff girls had nowhere near the same impact.

Flinstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo, Yogi Bear, etc have remained brand names for 40 years.

I mean this comparison is a joke. Are you honestly going to say Johnny Bravo has as much name recognition as Flintstones?

Anyone who thinks CN's Cartoon Cartoons ever reached the same level as Flintstones, Scooby Doo, and the like is kidding themselves.

No one is saying that they did or do hold that same level of recognition now, but the question posed is whether they will someday achieve that same level of recognition in the future.

I'm sure if you told Bill Hanna or Joe Barbera back in the 50's, 60's or 70's that people would still be talking about Yogi Bear, Fred Flintstone or Scooby-Doo 40 years later, they'd probably think you were crazy.

Unless someone can somehow travel 40 years into into the future, and come back with the buzz, no one can say for sure; people are just voicing their opinions. No harm in that.

D Dubbs
03-22-2009, 06:13 PM
Absolutely not. Even the more popular ones like Powerpuff girls had nowhere near the same impact.

Flinstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo, Yogi Bear, etc have remained brand names for 40 years.

Yeah, The Powerpuff Girls need their own Fruity Pebbles.

Blackstar
03-22-2009, 06:18 PM
Absolutely not. Even the more popular ones like Powerpuff girls had nowhere near the same impact.

Flinstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo, Yogi Bear, etc have remained brand names for 40 years.

The Powerpuff Girls hasn't been around for 40 years yet. We won't know that for sure until after another 20 years or so. You're always stating your personal opinions as concrete facts. I honestly don't get what makes you so sure what's going to still be popular or remembered fondly 20-40 years from now. Plus, and I mean no offense, but I would take your opinions a tad more seriously if you didn't by your own admission have a bias towards the shows, genres and eras that you personally enjoy.

Antiyonder
05-01-2009, 04:53 AM
I honestly don't get what makes you so sure what's going to still be popular or remembered fondly 20-40 years from now.

Speaking as someone who prefers a number of cartoons from this decade as opposed to decades past I'd say that despite any bias, he does have a point.

Flintstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo and Yogi Bear has been on basic television for quite a long time, whereas most cartoons from last decade or the earlier portion of this decade are either on digital cable or DVD Sets which are costly. Spongebob Squarepants (For having it's all age appeal) and Pokemon (with the merchandise in addition to the show) I could see possibly maintaining recognition, provided that they stay on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon for quite a long time. Courage The Cowardly Dog, provided that the ratings justify further airing of the show on CN (Or at the very least be distributed on YouTube shows, Hulu and Joost).

Again, I have quite a bit of favorite cartoons from this decade, but I can't see how they would reach the level of popularity by only being available to a certain number of viewers.

Fool's Gil
05-02-2009, 04:09 PM
I don't think so. Love the shows, but they don't have that spark. To even be considered as something special, they need to:

A) Be enjoyed by children and adults of all ages.

B) Be enjoyed through the generations by younger children.

C) You can never get tired of watching. You will always laugh as hard as you did when you saw it the first time.

Atomius
05-02-2009, 05:48 PM
Well if we're talking about shows like Courage, Ed, Edd n Eddy or Johnny Bravo etc from the late 90s and early 2000s then i'd personally rank them alongside or above HB cartoons like Scooby Doo, Flintstones etc, but i don't know whether they'll be remembered as much. Think about it, cartoons like The Flintstones were around before the mass of media entertainment options available us these days. These days we have youtube, movies, tv, satellite/cable (well some ppl do...), video games, radio, etc etc and so many options on the internet and with mobiles etc etc that an individual show, no matter how popular (LOST, Grey's Anatomy, Heroes or wtvr) will never be remembered for as long or more precisely, as importantly within it's entertainment memory context as were shows such as SD, TF and TJ. We will rather, imo, remember a mass of various gists of shows and films and music and probably not much clarity will be given to any one particular show excepting those which are our personal favorites, which with all the choice available us these days will differ from demographic to demographic. therefore it isn't an even playing field. Even if shows such as Ed, Edd n Eddy (which imo are indeed better) were better than classic HB ones, the contest does not allow for them to be remembered as well, at least, relative to other entertainment. Every year there are tens of shows/movies/songs considered 'massive hits' or 'blockbusters', unlike in the past when there was less of a broad selection, so that in the 60s and 70s shows would affect MORE PEOPLE to a GREATER EXTENT than even The Simpsons.


And you may well ask why shows like The Simpsons will no doubt be remembered. This is simply because they began before this great glut of entertainment we call the 2000s, and therefore are rooted like an anchor in the earlier times, which didn't really end until the internet became a viable video/music source in this decade.