2009 Cartoon Network Predictions.

[XDogg]

What current shows will maybe fail? What's Cartoon Network hiding from us this year? Will we get New blocks? Alright post way!

[chdr]

I think that we will see a new block announced at the Upfronts, probably an afternoon block. I also think that The Flicks will be gone by 2010 and that we'll be seeing AT and the Cartoonstitute early-winter, late-fall.

[XDogg]

I think that we will see a new block announced at the Upfronts, probably an afternoon block. I also think that The Flicks will be gone by 2010 and that we'll be seeing AT and the Cartoonstitute early-winter, late-fall.
Whats wrong with twf? Are the ratings bad?:shrug:

[chdr]

Whats wrong with twf? Are the ratings bad?:shrug:No, it's just that the block has been "deteriorating" (No more premieres, TWF replaced with Robotboy), and that the whole thing just seemed like a last-minute thing they put together to show off TWF.

[John Dorian]

I can see 2009 as it is.....


- Looney Tunes Returning
- New shows that isn't Cartoonstitute
- Total Drama Action airdate in the U.S.
- A New show from Warner Bros. Animation
- Some old shows returning
- New Animated and Live Action movies being confirmed
- Shows ending


That's it, really.

[XDogg]

I say that this block will be gone in a few months or less. This thumb nonsense is ridiculas.

[gtadbzman]

I predict

-return of Looney Tunes
-some DBZ movies for the live-action movies
-Naruto Shippuden will go to YAH
-Powerpuff Girls Z will eventully come.
-EEnE will return to weekdays for the new movie

That's about all I have.

[XDogg]

I can see 2009 as it is.....


- Looney Tunes Returning
- New shows that isn't Cartoonstitute
- Total Drama Action airdate in the U.S.
- A New show from Warner Bros. Animation
- Some old shows returning
- New Animated and Live Action movies being confirmed
- Shows ending


That's it, really.
Nice Predictions man.:D

[Comics_the_QB]

I personally hope DAS gets completley Noodified, and TWF gets replaced with a Nood Afternoon block. It could even feature the Flicks family. Them all coming home from work/school and sitting in front of the TV. Camera pans out to show a nice golden sunset beyond their house. Thoughts? The Flicks would be great if they only show animated, but I'm sure they won't. Action Flicks can keep it.

I feel The Garfield Show will slowly fade away. Pink Panther and Pals may be good, but I have my doubts. I really want Johnny Test to get less viewings.

Hopefully Adventure Time, TDA, and The Cartoonstitute will get what they deserve. Having Looney Tunes would also be great. I am also hoping the PPG special, Ed Edd 'n Eddy movie, and Foster final episodes bring back these shows. If they do: We got an awesome '09. (I doubt it for PPG, though.)

[XDogg]

I predict

-return of Looney Tunes
-some DBZ movies for the live-action movies
-Naruto Shippuden will go to YAH
-Powerpuff Girls Z will eventully come.
-EEnE will return to weekdays for the new movie

That's about all I have.
Powerpuff girls Z will probably this year. CN might make that annoucement during the special that will air this month.

[Racattack!Force]

Adventure Time for 13 half-hours. (Fall 2009/Winter 2010)
Cartoonstitute for 13 half-hours. (Fall 2009)
Total Drama Action acquired. (Summer 2009)
Ben 10: Alien Force for a third season.
The Secret Saturdays for a third season.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars for a second season.
Batman: The Brave and the Bold for a third season.
The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack for a second season.
Chowder for an additional 11 episodes (which will make a 20-episode third season).
Looney Tunes return to a weekday slot.
Several anime acquired, including Naruto: Shippūden, Powerpuff Girls Z, One Piece, SGT Frog, and Dr. Slump.
Other acquisitions include Class of the Titans.
Hot Wheels Battle Force 5 announced for Saturday mornings.
New series from Warner Bros. Animation (Fall 2009/Winter 2010).

[gtadbzman]

I would also love to see some of the older scooby-doo episodes to come back, say like the "Scooby-Doo Show" or the "Scooby-Doo & Scrappy-Doo Show". I also think that we may get "Tom and Jerry Tales" and "Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue" eventually.

[Comics_the_QB]

Adventure Time for 13 half-hours. (Fall 2009/Winter 2010)
Cartoonstitute for 13 half-hours. (Fall 2009)
Total Drama Action acquired. (Summer 2009)
Ben 10: Alien Force for a third season.
The Secret Saturdays for a third season.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars for a second season.
Batman: The Brave and the Bold for a third season.
The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack for a second season.
Chowder for an additional 11 episodes (which will make a 20-episode third season).
Looney Tunes return to a weekday slot.
Several anime acquired, including Naruto: Shippūden, Powerpuff Girls Z, One Piece, SGT Frog, and Dr. Slump.
Other acquisitions include Class of the Titans.
Hot Wheels Battle Force 5 announced for Saturday mornings.
New series from Warner Bros. Animation (Fall 2009/Winter 2010).

That would be awesome!

[chdr]

I don't see why Sgt. Frog and Dr. Slump would air on CN. Those seem like really random choices, and at this point, I doubt CN wants to air an anime without broad mainstream appeal and big merchandising opportunities.

[Comics_the_QB]

I also predict we will get a new banner

[Mini Garbonzo]

I don't see why Sgt. Frog and Dr. Slump would air on CN. Those seem like really random choices, and at this point, I doubt CN wants to air an anime without broad mainstream appeal and big merchandising opportunities.
CN may have a shot with "Sgt. Frog", a TV show doesn't have 240+ episodes for no reason...

[Racattack!Force]

I don't see why Sgt. Frog and Dr. Slump would air on CN. Those seem like really random choices, and at this point, I doubt CN wants to air an anime without broad mainstream appeal and big merchandising opportunities.Well they picked up TDI, which doesn't have any of those things either. And SGT Frog currently has 251 episodes and counting, so it would get a weekday slot.

[el blacklobo]

Well they picked up TDI, which doesn't have any of those things either. And SGT Frog currently has 251 episodes and counting, so it would get a weekday slot.True, and CN is trying bring back some of thier older fans.

[Mickialla]

Adventure Time for 13 half-hours. (Fall 2009/Winter 2010)
Cartoonstitute for 13 half-hours. (Fall 2009)
Total Drama Action acquired. (Summer 2009)
Ben 10: Alien Force for a third season.
The Secret Saturdays for a third season.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars for a second season.
Batman: The Brave and the Bold for a third season.
The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack for a second season.
Chowder for an additional 11 episodes (which will make a 20-episode third season).
Looney Tunes return to a weekday slot.
Several anime acquired, including Naruto: Shippūden, Powerpuff Girls Z, One Piece, SGT Frog, and Dr. Slump.
Other acquisitions include Class of the Titans.
Hot Wheels Battle Force 5 announced for Saturday mornings.
New series from Warner Bros. Animation (Fall 2009/Winter 2010).

That seems like wishful thinking rather than a prediction. We have no way of knowing if SGT Frog or Dr.Slump will come to the network; the network has shown no recent signs of interest in either show and haven't shown signs of interest in anime at all recently. PPGZ might come if the special does well, and if Shippuden does come, I see it coming maybe during the summer, if at all. I'm sure DAS will have ended by earliest of March and replaced with a noodified block (or no block at all, but probably the former). I see both Cartoonstitute and Adventure Time premiering their first seasons in September/October, though I'd rather have both premiere in August. Foster's and EEnE will have been completely ejected from the network by next year, save for airing the Halloween and Christmas specials in October and December. Chowder, Flapjack, TSS, Clone Wars and Brave and the Bold will all get another season ordered. We already know TDA will be premiering new episodes starting in the Summer; I predict that nonstop new episodes of TDA, Chowder, and Flapjack will begin to premiere onn HHT at the beginning of Summer just like in 2008, and 6Teen will be replaced with another show on Har Har Tharsdays. The same routine will happen with YAH. If anime comes to the network at all, I see at maximum 3, though I'm not sure at this point which anime are most likely to be picked up. The current afternoon block will be gone within a few months, and I doubt Action Flicks will last through all of 2009, though The Flicks will continue, sadly with a majority of live action. And Looney Tunes will return with an early evening slot (6-7) on weekdays. Also, Underfist is likely to get a sequel.

[Mugsy]

I predict that CN will launce a Clone Wars style campaign for a new aquisition that will end up on YAH...

I also predict the death of the lame afternoon block and a new one introduced with premiers and a fun look to it...

I predict greatness for YAH...

[gtadbzman]

I wish Williams Street would make another afternoon action block for CN. Sorta like Toonami or Miguzi.

[Mugsy]

I also predict a short return for Loony Toons only to be cancelled within a 3 month period.... :(

[macattack]

Here's what I got . . .

Adventure Time gets a 26-episode order and airs thirteen of them in the late fall and crosses into the next year on HHT.

Cartoonstitute gets 26 episodes and they begin running in the late fall on HHT.

Total Drama Action airs all of its episodes straight-shot on HHT.

6teen's new season airs on HHT.

HHT in general becomes a premiere-only lineup.

YAH maintains the same four shows it currently has, with TBTB, Ben 10: AF, Clone Wars, and Secret Saturdays occupying the lineup. All shows involved get a 2nd/3rd season.

Looney Tunes gets a weekday slot.

Flapjack gets a new season, and Chowder gets another half-season order.

Hot Wheels Battle Force 5 and Class Of The Titans both join DAS.

DAS gets Noodified, Blake and the gang vanish for good.

Transformers Animated gets a 3rd season that turns out to be its last season, and runs on DAS.

Naruto is vamoosed by spring without finishing its run. No anime pickups other than a new Bakugan season and PPGZ, both of whom run on DAS in the fall. Pokemon also continues on DAS.

Jetstream survives on its current lineup. KIBA is gone after episode 26, Zatch is done at episode 104. Storm Hawks eventually turns into premieres of a new season, and remains online-only.

[Racattack!Force]

Both Adventure Time and Cartoonstitute have only 13 half-hours at this point.

[pokefiend]

I definately think DAS will be completely reformed in 09 with new aquisitions, a new name, and a new bumper theme (Noods possibly, depending if the era lasts long enough.)

A new weekday primetime block (I'm thinking Wednesday) will be announced with a programming theme.

Almost every series on CN will belong to some block.

[macattack]

Both Adventure Time and Cartoonstitute have only 13 half-hours at this point.

I'm predicting their orders will get increased before the year's over.

[Mugsy]

I predict that DAS will get "Noodified" and get a new look and feel to it, but the name will stay the same....

[XDogg]

Making this thread was a good idea. Hey does CN know about this website?:cool:

[Racattack!Force]

Making this thread was a good idea. Hey does CN know about this website?:cool:TZ Staff have connections with them (thus get advanced previews and stuff for reviews), and the network has used this website to decide what and what not to edit.

[XDogg]

TZ Staff have connections with them (thus get advanced previews and stuff for reviews), and the network has used this website to decide what and what not to edit.
So they do. I want them to check your "Fantasy thread" Some of the Toonzone members are very creative. And deserve to work for the company.:)

[Blackstar]

My predictions:

Looney Tunes gets a daily time slot (most likely in the mornings or afternoons).
At least 1 new series will join the You Are here lineup (probably during the summer or fall of 2009).
There will be yet another attempt at a weekday afternoon program block.

[XDogg]

Cartoon Network Summer: Fun till 12 none.(Reference to blake).:anime:

[Draft]

-Looney Tunes gets a weekday slot, but will not return in the Fall (possibly along with Tom and Jerry)
-No less than 2 other Teletoon shows will debut on CN (Excluding Total Drama Action)
-Shippuden will not air on Cartoon Network
-You Are Here and Har Har Thursdays will expand to 7-10PM
-Ed, Edd n' Eddy will return big when the TV Movie comes out
-A stab at either a Preschool or Weekday Afternoon block
-Adventure Time fails
-Cartoonistute is put on Sundays and fails to get any ratings
-Jetstream vanishes
-Fusionfall will be successful enough (or projected to be) that CN announces a series revolving around it
-1 Anime will be accquired to pair with Pokemon (but will fail)
-PPGZ will air on Har Har Thursdays
-Every current original production gets another season (Except Flapjack which ends with the second season currently in production)

[XDogg]

-Looney Tunes gets a weekday slot, but will not return in the Fall (possibly along with Tom and Jerry)
-No less than 2 other Teletoon shows will debut on CN (Excluding Total Drama Action)
-Shippuden will not air on Cartoon Network
-You Are Here and Har Har Thursdays will expand to 7-10PM
-Ed, Edd n' Eddy will return big when the TV Movie comes out
-A stab at either a Preschool or Weekday Afternoon block
-Adventure Time fails
-Cartoonistute is put on Sundays and fails to get any ratings
-Jetstream vanishes
-Fusionfall will be successful enough (or projected to be) that CN announces a series revolving around it
-1 Anime will be accquired to pair with Pokemon (but will fail)
-PPGZ will air on Har Har Thursdays
-Every current original production gets another season (Except Flapjack which ends with the second season currently in production)
Woah, Those are some though predictions.

[el blacklobo]

Prediction Time!:D

-Looney Tunes will probally have early morning or late night showing on the weekends(Possibly weekdays).

-You are Here and Har Har Tharsdays will probally gain a few hours.

-Naruto Shippuden, One Piece, Pokemon, Powerpuff Girls Z and Transformers Animated will go to You are Here.

-Adventure Time, Cartoonstitute, Total Drama Action, The Pink Panther and Garfield will go to Har Har Tharsday.

-Ed, Edd & Eddy, Powerpuff Girls, might make it to the schedule.


Crazy Prediction time!!!!!!!!!!:p (Stuff that is extreamly unlikely to happen)

-Bleach will make to the Daytime.

-Tom5 will go to You are Here and he will be noodified.

-Megas XLR will return. (I can dream can't I.):sweat:

[XDogg]

Prediction Time!:D

-Looney Tunes will probally have early morning or late night showing on the weekends(Possibly weekdays).

-You are Here and Har Har Tharsdays will probally gain a few hours.

-Naruto Shippuden, One Piece, Pokemon, Powerpuff Girls Z and Transformers Animated will go to You are Here.

-Adventure Time, Cartoonstitute, Total Drama Action, The Pink Panther and Garfield will go to Har Har Tharsday.

-Ed, Edd & Eddy, Powerpuff Girls, might make it to the schedule.


Crazy Prediction time!!!!!!!!!!:p (Stuff that is extreamly unlikely to happen)

-Bleach will make to the Daytime.

-Tom5 will go to You are Here and he will be noodified.

-Megas XLR will return. (I can dream can't I.):sweat:
If Megas XLR was back on CN, Draft would be Totally phyked.:D

[Mickialla]

-Looney Tunes gets a weekday slot, but will not return in the Fall (possibly along with Tom and Jerry)
-No less than 2 other Teletoon shows will debut on CN (Excluding Total Drama Action)
-Shippuden will not air on Cartoon Network
-You Are Here and Har Har Thursdays will expand to 7-10PM
-Ed, Edd n' Eddy will return big when the TV Movie comes out
-A stab at either a Preschool or Weekday Afternoon block
-Adventure Time fails
-Cartoonistute is put on Sundays and fails to get any ratings
-Jetstream vanishes
-Fusionfall will be successful enough (or projected to be) that CN announces a series revolving around it
-1 Anime will be accquired to pair with Pokemon (but will fail)
-PPGZ will air on Har Har Thursdays
-Every current original production gets another season (Except Flapjack which ends with the second season currently in production)

Wow, those are some pretty negative predictions. I don't know if I agree with all of them. Flapjack is way too popular to end with only 2 seasons, and Cartoonstitute has a decent chance of airing on HHT. And why would PPGZ air on HHT? It's an action show, right? I think it would go to Saturday mornings if it came at all.

[J!!!]

How could Dr slump get shown it has nudity like every other episode Tednut.

[The Wolverine]

And why would PPGZ air on HHT? It's an action show, right? I think it would go to Saturday mornings if it came at all.
Technically, it's an action-comedy.

[Mickialla]

How could Dr slump get shown it has nudity like every other episode Tednut.

Cartoon Network has shown anime with nudity in it before; it usually gets edited coming over to the states.

[XDogg]

Hey.... I said hey! Thank you, This a 2009 Cartoon Network prediction not a "Off Topic Thread".:moon2:

[J!!!]

Cartoon Network has shown anime with nudity in it before; it usually gets edited coming over to the states.
but with little girls in it ?

[soundmonkey44]

The all knowing Crystal ball tells me...

-The end of the Flicks...And Possibly Action Flicks If CN Can't get anymore movies. (I mean Who wants to See the Naruto or DC DTV movies 100 times!)
-TFA Season 3 on YAH
-more Variety on YAH
-Clone wars will continue to get High Ratings
-other YAH shows will All have a decent amount of new episodes
-Looney Tunes will return for good
-all the new shows CN has planned for 09 Except Hotwheels & pink panter, will get good or decent ratings
-PPGZ will come to CN (probably mid-late summmer)
-Viz & CN will Find an agreeable Settlement & Timeslot to Air Naruto Shippuden
-Less Johhny Test
-Possible Return of One Piece
-Funi may Try to Get CN to show Soul Eater in the fall.


and that is all i predict...FOr now! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:evil: :evil: :p

[peterg14]

Here are my predictions:

-PPGZ is announced for either YAH or DAS
-Ed, Edd n Eddy has its finale/movie, then either disappears from the network completely
-Foster's airs its last season possibly HHT then disappears from the network completely
-Looney Toons gets a weekday slot, possibly along side Tom and Jerry in the afternoon
-Naruto gets dropped :sad:
-Bakugan's first season ends and it's 2nd season is picked up
-TDA, Flapjack, Chowder, and 6Teen all air premieres on HHT in the summer
-Ben 10: Alien Force, The Secret Saturdays, Batman: The Brave and The Bold, and Star Wars: The Clone Wars all air and get picked up for 3rd and 2nd seasons, respectively.
-DAS gets remade or probably stays the same.
-Action Flicks will go, The Flicks will stay
-Hopefully, the noods stick around
-Adventure Time and Cartoonstitute will air
-Pink Panther and Pals and The Garfield Show air in the mornings alongside Baby Looney Toons, A Pup Named Scooby Doo, and The Mr. Men Show. Sort of quasi-preschool for 2 1/2 hours.
-And most of all, I predict there will be massive whining here over the most minor things possible.

[Mickialla]

but with little girls in it ?

Not sure, possibly. But there was an episode of PPG where the girls were naked in a bathtub and it showed their chests. But American shows tend to have less details than anime does..

[XDogg]

Not sure, possibly. But there was an episode of PPG where the girls were naked in a bathtub and it showed their chests. But American shows tend to have less details than anime does..
Hey could you guy's stop being a little.... Out of hand.

[Draft]

Wow, those are some pretty negative predictions. I don't know if I agree with all of them. Flapjack is way too popular to end with only 2 seasons, and Cartoonstitute has a decent chance of airing on HHT. And why would PPGZ air on HHT? It's an action show, right? I think it would go to Saturday mornings if it came at all.
Naruto already isn't airing past 220. Flapjack if I remember was getting even less viewers than TDI and Johnny Test an HHT, which both series would be cheaper to air. Cartoonistute is similar to that of What a Cartoon and Sunday Pants, which both aired on Sundays. PPGZ is an action/comedy, and probably would fit better with You Are Here due to it being based off a Cartoon Cartoon. That, and I think the SatAM block will have too many series to air (since they encore the You Are Here block, which probably would be much better rated than PPGZ)

[Mickialla]

Hey could you guy's stop being a little.... Out of hand.

We weren't getting that off topic anyways, it's not like we overhauled the entire discussion to be about a totally different topic. But it doesn't matter, I'm sure we're done talking about that.

Naruto already isn't airing past 220. Flapjack if I remember was getting even less viewers than TDI and Johnny Test an HHT, which both series would be cheaper to air. Cartoonistute is similar to that of What a Cartoon and Sunday Pants, which both aired on Sundays. PPGZ is an action/comedy, and probably would fit better with You Are Here due to it being based off a Cartoon Cartoon. That, and I think the SatAM block will have too many series to air (since they encore the You Are Here block, which probably would be much better rated than PPGZ)

Well I'm not saying they're all untrue, some of the negative predictions might very likely be true. I do see a 40/60 chance of Shippuden coming over (60 being not coming). But, while Flapjack might be behind TDI, it's without a doubt not a failure. It's doing better than shows in the past few years like Lazlo and Gym Partner, and I'm sure that without Flapjack (or TDI or Chowder), HHT's ratings would drop. And Cartoonstitute isn't like Sunday Pants at all. Sunday Pants was a collection of European shorts that were just packaged together; Sunday Pants had no intention of finding a new series or reviving the atmosphere of making good cartoons. It was just a collection of foreign shorts. Yea, Cartoonstitute is just like WAC!, but WAC! was never confined to Sundays. I remember seeing a schedule from 2009 that had WAC! airing outside of Sunday. And PPGZ could go to YAH, but I see the Saturday morning block being completely revamped with a new block, which means getting rid of the YAH encores. I also think Bakugan will leave soon, with Pokemon and Transformers being the only shows to stay on the block (there'll be new shows on it of course).

[gtadbzman]

Does anyone think that CN might get Tom & Jerry Tales or Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue? To me these seem like a must get for CN.

[Mek]

Does anyone think that CN might get Tom & Jerry Tales or Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue? To me these seem like a must get for CN.

I wouldn't be surprised if they aired at some point or another on CN.

And I also predict that Clone Wars will be renewed for a second season. It's pretty much a gimmie, given that it's doing quite well in the ratings. (Even then, Lucasfilm has stated they plan to do at least 100 episodes regardless if it gets canceled or not)

[XDogg]

I smell Budget Problems for Star Wars in the Future.:shrug:

[Mickialla]

Predictions:

- Looney Tunes returns to the Cartoon Network schedule
- The Simpsons is FINALLY acquired for Adult Swim
- Adult Swim expands another hour and takes the 9pm hour (yes!!!)
- More airtime for movies (animated and non-animated)
- A reduction or two of the 'You Are Here' block
- The new, upcoming non-animated series proves to be a hit among the target audience
- More non-animated series are announced and go into production

What new non-animated series?? :confused: There is no such series in production as of yet, thankfully. The only show like that was the David Duchovny project that was in pre-production, and that's most likely trashed by now since it was being dealed with before the new management entered. And I doubt more live action series would be produced. Even with Out of Jimmy's Head and all of the live-action movies, the Cartoon Network execs have stuck true to the "cartoon only" rule for the most part. I don't see a single live action series coming to Cartoon Network in the near future, let alone many. And predicting that the network's name will change is highly unlikely and not based at all on logic. :sweat:

[macattack]

And here I thought some of my predictions were fairly bleak. Geez, Ducktales, you have no confidence in CN at all, do you?

I think the current management is better than the previous management in most regards, other than their complete disregard for their backlog and acquisitions.

[Draft]

Well I'm not saying they're all untrue, some of the negative predictions might very likely be true. I do see a 40/60 chance of Shippuden coming over (60 being not coming). But, while Flapjack might be behind TDI, it's without a doubt not a failure. It's doing better than shows in the past few years like Lazlo and Gym Partner, and I'm sure that without Flapjack (or TDI or Chowder), HHT's ratings would drop. And Cartoonstitute isn't like Sunday Pants at all. Sunday Pants was a collection of European shorts that were just packaged together; Sunday Pants had no intention of finding a new series or reviving the atmosphere of making good cartoons. It was just a collection of foreign shorts. Yea, Cartoonstitute is just like WAC!, but WAC! was never confined to Sundays. I remember seeing a schedule from 2009 that had WAC! airing outside of Sunday. And PPGZ could go to YAH, but I see the Saturday morning block being completely revamped with a new block, which means getting rid of the YAH encores. I also think Bakugan will leave soon, with Pokemon and Transformers being the only shows to stay on the block (there'll be new shows on it of course).

When did I call Flapjack a failure? Many series have been cancelled by CN at 26 episodes that got decent ratings, but for a multitude of reasons that could possibly fit for the series (Expensive to produce, not doing well in the target demo off the top of my head). I remember reading a topic that had ratings for Har Har Thursdays that showed that TDI and Johnny Test got more ratings than Flapjack (Though it did have more than Chowder, which was a repeat).

Sunday Pants very well could've come out with a prospect TV Show, though it indeed wasn't in the same vein as Cartoonistute/What a Cartoon. While What a Cartoon did air in more places other than Sunday, it premired new episodes on Sunday for the most part.

Personally, I think the block will stay the same except for Hot Wheels replacing Bakugan when it's over. The lineup is able to encore their big productions/accquasistions on You Are Here, while also airing Pokeman and that crummy Hot Wheels show

[Mickialla]

When did I call Flapjack a failure? Many series have been cancelled by CN at 26 episodes that got decent ratings, but for a multitude of reasons that could possibly fit for the series (Expensive to produce, not doing well in the target demo off the top of my head). I remember reading a topic that had ratings for Har Har Thursdays that showed that TDI and Johnny Test got more ratings than Flapjack (Though it did have more than Chowder, which was a repeat).

Sunday Pants very well could've come out with a prospect TV Show, though it indeed wasn't in the same vein as Cartoonistute/What a Cartoon. While What a Cartoon did air in more places other than Sunday, it premired new episodes on Sunday for the most part.

Personally, I think the block will stay the same except for Hot Wheels replacing Bakugan when it's over. The lineup is able to encore their big productions/accquasistions on You Are Here, while also airing Pokeman and that crummy Hot Wheels show

I know you didn't call Flapjack a failure, but that's what I thought you meant since I'm pretty sure Flapjack isn't extremely expensive to produce. The only instance that has happened was with Class of 3000, and that's only because it used a different type of animation for the music videos in every episode. And Flapjack is doing well with the right demographic as well. And even if WAC! did premiere on Sundays, that was more than a decade ago. I'm sure the execs will put it in a more suitable spot to get ratings. The only reason I currently see DAS being trashed is because it's going through pretty much the same stage that Fried Dynamite was in it's last days. In it's last days, all Fried Dynamite did was show encores of Flicks' movies. Now, all DAS is doing is showing encores of YAH shows. So that's why I think it'll be removed soon and that a new block will take it's place, with Bakugan leaving and the Hot Wheels show joining Transformers and Pokemon and a couple more new shows, possibly the new Yugioh show coming to CW4Kids and PPGZ if the new special does well.

[Mugsy]

Predictions:

- Looney Tunes returns to the Cartoon Network schedule
- The Simpsons is FINALLY acquired for Adult Swim
- Adult Swim expands another hour and takes the 9pm hour (yes!!!)
- More airtime for movies (animated and non-animated)
- A reduction or two of the 'You Are Here' block
- The new, upcoming non-animated series proves to be a hit among the target audience
- More non-animated series are announced and go into production

CN has given AS enough time, the 9pm hour is too important to CN especially on Thursdays and Fridays....

Simpsons is another fantasy than prediction....

[chdr]

CN has given AS enough time, the 9pm hour is too important to CN especially on Thursdays and Fridays....

Simpsons is another fantasy than prediction....Who knows, Teletoon's version of AS starts at 9...

[XDogg]

CN has given AS enough time, the 9pm hour is too important to CN especially on Thursdays and Fridays....

Simpsons is another fantasy than prediction....
If CN gives That Block an Extra hour I'm Gonna.......:ack:

[Ishtar]

You know, if Looney Tunes really does get a permanent slot, I could see one or more of the following:
1) The return of the other Looney Tunes films such as:
The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie
The Looney Looney Looney Bugs Bunny Movie (This one is kinda iffy since it would take a lot more work editing around the "Show Biz Bugs" segment in the context of the film, if they really are still paranoid about that)
Daffy Duck's Fantastic Island
Daffy Duck's Quackbusters
Tweety's High Fly Adventure
2) The return of The Slyvester & Tweety Mysteries
3) The return of Duck Dodgers

I think the 1st option is the most plausible out of them all. They are already airing 101 Rabbit Tales this weekend.

[chdr]

You know, if Looney Tunes really does get a permanent slot, I could see one or more of the following:
1) The return of the other Looney Tunes films such as:
The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie
The Looney Looney Looney Bugs Bunny Movie (This one is kinda iffy since it would take a lot more work editing around the "Show Biz Bugs" segment in the context of the film, if they really are still paranoid about that)
Daffy Duck's Fantastic Island
Daffy Duck's Quackbusters
Tweety's High Fly Adventure
2) The return of The Slyvester & Tweety Mysteries
3) The return of Duck Dodgers

I think the 1st option is the most plausible out of them all. They are already airing 101 Rabbit Tales this weekend.They still air that.

[CNFAN1993]

well my predictions are

1.cartoonistute
2.TDA Coming Soon
3.old shows or new seasons of old shows that would be cool:)
4.a new dexter rap video featuring yung jeezy or lil wayne



i hope that 09 will be the return of cartoon network

[Mugsy]

If CN gives That Block an Extra hour I'm Gonna.......:ack:



Start unloading rounds from a bell tower on innocent civilians?? Mind if i join ya?

[XDogg]

Start unloading rounds from a bell tower on innocent civilians?? Mind if i join ya?
Ok. Actually I was gonna...... Take my belt off and start whooping Williams street Behind.:p

[clipeuh]

Who knows, Teletoon's version of AS starts at 9...

It's because the watershed here in Canada starts at 9PM. In the US, according to Wikipedia, it starts at 10PM. :sweat:

[Mugsy]

Ok. Actually I was gonna...... Take my belt off and start whooping Williams street Behind.:p



Belt would be better used on CN's behind as they are they ones who would approve an AS 9pm slot. It won't happen though....

[XDogg]

Belt would be better used on CN's behind as they are they ones who would approve an AS 9pm slot. It won't happen though....
Oh.:shrug:

[Racattack!Force]

Predictions:

- Looney Tunes returns to the Cartoon Network schedule
- The Simpsons is FINALLY acquired for Adult Swim
- Adult Swim expands another hour and takes the 9pm hour (yes!!!)
- More airtime for movies (animated and non-animated)
- A reduction or two of the 'You Are Here' block
- The new, upcoming non-animated series proves to be a hit among the target audience
- More non-animated series are announced and go into production...I'm suprised you didn't add a change of the network's name from Cartoon Network to The Network. :sweat:

[Jack_6428]

I can see 2009 as it is.....


- Looney Tunes Returning
- New shows that isn't Cartoonstitute
- Total Drama Action airdate in the U.S.
- A New show from Warner Bros. Animation
- Some old shows returning
- New Animated and Live Action movies being confirmed
- Shows ending


That's it, really.

you know, for some reason i think you are right lol..
DBZ movies are almost obvious though :)
but PPG Z must come..theyre on CN UK already...
im sure Cartoonstitute will be a big hit, i cant wait for it... =))
i hope that some 90s Hanna-Barbera shows come back though..would be sweet :)
--------
...or, lets make a "The Centurions" all day marathon on CN, just like a decade ago... Poweeeeerrr Xtreeemeee !!! HELL YEAH! :D

[Mickialla]

I can see 2009 as it is.....


- Looney Tunes Returning
- New shows that isn't Cartoonstitute
- Total Drama Action airdate in the U.S.
- A New show from Warner Bros. Animation
- Some old shows returning
- New Animated and Live Action movies being confirmed
- Shows ending


That's it, really.

What old shows do you think will be returning, besides Looney Tunes, that is??

[Blackstar]

Powerpuff Girls Z is an action/comedy, so if it comes to cartoon Network at all, my guess would be that PPGZ would air as part of YAH, but not HHT. Quite frankly, I don't care if PPGZ never comes to CNU.S. because what I've seen of it wasn't very good.


- The new, upcoming non-animated series proves to be a hit among the target audience

What non-animated series?? He can't tell you because there isn't one. He's making the whole thing up. After CN's last attempt at a live action kidcom, Out of Jimmy's Head, crashed and burned, it will be a while before CN will try anything like that again.

I wouldn't take anything that Ducktales Fan types here seriously. It's best to just ignore him.

[Rawr]

about the same as everyone else........

- Adventure Time will join the HHT block
-Cartoonstitute will join the HHT block as well
- Naruto will get a marathon, finishing the series off
- Naruto Shippuden will join YAH
- Sgt. Frog will join the line-up
- PowerPuff Girls Z will join DAS
- DAS will become Noods
- Flapjack, Chowder, Ben10:AF, Secret Sat,Star Wars, Batman will all get new seasons
- Ed, Edd n Eddy movie will play and thus the series will get removed from CN altogether *:(*
-Looney Tunes shall join the line-up
- TDA will join HHT
-6Teen will leave HHT
- Cartoon Network will make a move into the PG rated shows *which a majority of them shall fail*
-

[Silverstar]

- DAS will become Noods

You mean Noods of those live-action kids? No.

- Cartoon Network will make a move into the PG rated shows *which a majority of them shall fail*

Folks, just because CN is running Total Drama Island now doesn't mean that they're planning to give the network a PG makeover. They have [adult swim] for that. And whether a show fails or not has nothing to do with its' rating, it depends on the show itself.

[Mickialla]

You mean Noods of those live-action kids? No.



Folks, just because CN is running Total Drama Island now doesn't mean that they're planning to give the network a PG makeover. They have [adult swim] for that. And whether a show fails or not has nothing to do with its' rating, it depends on the show itself.

Adult Swim isn't for PG shows at all. To grown-ups, which [as] aims at, PG still means "kid".

[Silverstar]

Adult Swim isn't for PG shows at all. To grown-ups, which [as] aims at, PG still means "kid".

And yet, one of [as]'s highest rated shows, Family Guy, is rated TVPG. Hmmm....

[nakak]

And yet, one of [as]'s highest rated shows, Family Guy, is rated TVPG. Hmmm....
You sure? FG was always rated TV-14, although I haven't watched the show in a while.

King of the Hill, however, is rated TV-PG, even on [as]

[Silverstar]

:^: Point is, [adult swim] does indeed air shows with lower ratings than TVMA. However, on average TVY7 and TV14 are about as "hardcore" as we can expect to see on Cartoon Network.

[NewcomerDC]

about the same as everyone else........

- Adventure Time will join the HHT block
-Cartoonstitute will join the HHT block as well
- Naruto will get a marathon, finishing the series off
- Naruto Shippuden will join YAH
- Sgt. Frog will join the line-up
- PowerPuff Girls Z will join DAS
- DAS will become Noods
- Flapjack, Chowder, Ben10:AF, Secret Sat,Star Wars, Batman will all get new seasons
- Ed, Edd n Eddy movie will play and thus the series will get removed from CN altogether *:(*
-Looney Tunes shall join the line-up
- TDA will join HHT
-6Teen will leave HHT
- Cartoon Network will make a move into the PG rated shows *which a majority of them shall fail*
-
I rather not see Sgt. Frog on CN until Funi can make a better dub and remove Vic Mignogna from the role of Keroro once and for all. Honestly, he's that bad even though hesucceeds in Ouran High School Host Club and FMA.

PPGZ gets the same reason as Sgt. Frog: No better dub, no getting on CN.

You're right about Secret Saturdays getting more new episodes since it already has a season three attached and all of the YAH shows are getting new seasons.

As for Dynamite Action Squad, just get rid of the block along with it's essence of having the kids as the hosts. And I do not want Noods for the block either. Seriously, no more hosts for DAS and no DAS block.

[The Overlord]

:^: Point is, [adult swim] does indeed air shows with lower ratings than TVMA. However, on average TVY7 and TV14 are about as "hardcore" as we can expect to see on Cartoon Network.

I'm pretty sure almost every show on adult swim is PG-13 and almost none of them are PG.

When discussing PG shows I think most people mean a middle ground, something between show intended solely for kids (like Fosters) and show that kids likely shouldn't be watching (Family Guy). Something that could appeal to Pre-teens.

[Mugsy]

:^: Point is, [adult swim] does indeed air shows with lower ratings than TVMA. However, on average TVY7 and TV14 are about as "hardcore" as we can expect to see on Cartoon Network.


I have to agree with Silverstar here, except for AS, CN probably won't air anything more extreame than a TV14 or something to that effect. It goes against the veiwer base they seem to want to capture....

[Sketch]

I rather not see Sgt. Frog on CN until Funi can make a better dub and remove Vic Mignogna from the role of Keroro once and for all. Honestly, he's that bad even though hesucceeds in Ouran High School Host Club and FMA.

PPGZ gets the same reason as Sgt. Frog: No better dub, no getting on CN.

You're right about Secret Saturdays getting more new episodes since it already has a season three attached and all of the YAH shows are getting new seasons.

As for Dynamite Action Squad, just get rid of the block along with it's essence of having the kids as the hosts. And I do not want Noods for the block either. Seriously, no more hosts for DAS and no DAS block.

Sgt Frog wasn't voiced by Vic in the FUNi test dub...

And whether a dub is bad or not isn't going to mean jack to CN so expect PPGZ eventually with the dub it has (a bad one, a very bad one indeed).

[gtadbzman]

Here's some posibilities.

-PPGZ
-DB/Z/GT movies
-Tom & Jerry Tales
-Shaggy & Scooby-Doo, Get a Clue!
-more older Scooby-Doo series
-return of Looney Tunes
-Naruto Shippuden
-posible One Piece return
-Sgt. Frog
-return of regular PPG
-EEnE returns after movie gets awesome ratings
-new DBZ special will air after FUNI dubs it

[Mickialla]

Here's some posibilities.

-PPGZ
-DB/Z/GT movies
-Tom & Jerry Tales
-Shaggy & Scooby-Doo, Get a Clue!
-more older Scooby-Doo series
-return of Looney Tunes
-Naruto Shippuden
-posible One Piece return
-Sgt. Frog
-return of regular PPG
-EEnE returns after movie gets awesome ratings
-new DBZ special will air after FUNI dubs it

PPG most likely won't return, since it's now airing on Boomerang.

[gtadbzman]

PPG most likely won't return, since it's now airing on Boomerang.O yeah. I forgot is was on Boomerang. :sweat:

[The Overlord]

Sgt Frog wasn't voiced by Vic in the FUNi test dub...

And whether a dub is bad or not isn't going to mean jack to CN so expect PPGZ eventually with the dub it has (a bad one, a very bad one indeed).

Didn't Tara Strong suggest somewhere in an interview, that if that show came to America that and her Craig McCracken would be involved? that may mean it might be redubbed by the original cast, if it came to America.

[DarthGonzo]

-EEnE returns after movie gets awesome ratings


Even if you just mean repeats I doubt it. I mean it would be fantastic to even have repeats on the schedule but I just don't see it. I think CN is going to air the TV movie and then dump the show like a rock.

[Mickialla]

Even if you just mean repeats I doubt it. I mean it would be fantastic to even have repeats on the schedule but I just don't see it. I think CN is going to air the TV movie and then dump the show like a rock.

At most I can see EEnE returning with an hour a week like Billy and Mandy currently has. But even that is verging on wishful thinking.

[PalmelaFC]

Sgt Frog wasn't voiced by Vic in the FUNi test dub...

And whether a dub is bad or not isn't going to mean jack to CN so expect PPGZ eventually with the dub it has (a bad one, a very bad one indeed).

Ahhh men, Sgt. Frog is sooo cool... over here it's on animax and in japanese...
If only CN would broadcast in japanese...

[Mugsy]

I hope PPZ is done on CN, I was never a big fan and unless it's one like once a week on a Sunday or something....

[Blackstar]

I hope PPZ is done on CN, I was never a big fan and unless it's one like once a week on a Sunday or something....

It's PPG, PPGZ has yet to air in the U.S. and as previoulsy stated, PPG is currently running 5 nights a week on Boomerang. Plus, the Powerpuff episodes are out on DVD. CN is going to air a PPG speical, but there are currently no plans to bring the series back to CN.

[XDogg]

Even if you just mean repeats I doubt it. I mean it would be fantastic to even have repeats on the schedule but I just don't see it. I think CN is going to air the TV movie and then dump the show like a rock.
I'm sure some of the people at CN would like the show to stay. But ever since they had new management................:mad:

[Racattack!Force]

I'm sure some of the people at CN would like the show to stay. But ever since they had new management................:mad:If they think it could do good, they would test it. Courage got to stay due having good ratings during a marathon October 2006. Billy and Mandy for good ratings in October. If they think Powerpuff Girls could get good ratings, then they would do a marathon...which they happen to be doing on MLK Jr. Day. :sweat:

[XDogg]

If they think it could do good, they would test it. Courage got to stay due having good ratings during a marathon October 2006. Billy and Mandy for good ratings in October. If they think Powerpuff Girls could get good ratings, then they would do a marathon...which they happen to be doing on MLK Jr. Day. :sweat:
Hey if Courage has good ratings, Then why won't they give the series a final "Last time Homerun"?

[chdr]

Hey if Courage has good ratings, Then why won't they give the series a final "Last time Homerun"?Because it's over, and everyone involved with Courage moved on years ago.

[XDogg]

Because it's over, and everyone involved with Courage moved on years ago.
Okay I get it the Creater has moved on. Thanks for letting me know that.

[Racattack!Force]

Hey if Courage has good ratings, Then why won't they give the series a final "Last time Homerun"?The final episode pretty much wrapped every thing up. We learn how Courage ended up with Muriel & Eustace in the first segment, and the second segment pretty much had everyone deal and learn to live with their imperfections. :shrug:

[Sabregroove]

-Looney Tunes gets a weekday slot, but will not return in the Fall (possibly along with Tom and Jerry)
-No less than 2 other Teletoon shows will debut on CN (Excluding Total Drama Action)
-Shippuden will not air on Cartoon Network
-You Are Here and Har Har Thursdays will expand to 7-10PM
-Ed, Edd n' Eddy will return big when the TV Movie comes out
-A stab at either a Preschool or Weekday Afternoon block
-Adventure Time fails
-Cartoonistute is put on Sundays and fails to get any ratings
-Jetstream vanishes
-Fusionfall will be successful enough (or projected to be) that CN announces a series revolving around it
-1 Anime will be accquired to pair with Pokemon (but will fail)
-PPGZ will air on Har Har Thursdays
-Every current original production gets another season (Except Flapjack which ends with the second season currently in production)

Wow! Does anyone else get the impression that Draft may be clairvoyant? Will you help me play the stock market?

____________________
"Hagen's gone; make him stop haunting me!"

[soundmonkey44]

Wow! Does anyone else get the impression that Draft may be clairvoyant? Will you help me play the stock market?

____________________
"Hagen's gone; make him stop haunting me!"


I don't think It's Ckarvoient in the least...He seems spot on on some But off on many predicitons...I don't see Cartoonistiture failing..and Adventure time should get at least Decent ratings...& I think PPGZ would be on YAH or Saturday mornings Before HAR HAR Tharsdays!

& I don't think Jetstream will go anywhere until 2010 at least!


I know Ive DOne this already but heres what I predict after Reading more Statements!

-Looney Tunes On Weekday Afternoons
-DBZ Temporarily Returns Around time of Live action Movie
-PPGZ on YAH
-TFA season 3 on YAH
-YAH gets more air time/ gets more shows
-HHT gets 1 more hour
-CN Airs the Rest of Naruto, Unlikly to pick up shippuden
-AS Gets lower ratings
- PJ's Fails
-CN/AS only aquire 2 animes before end of 09
-CN stops showing pre 07 shows completly except on special occasions

[Racattack!Force]

I decided to revise my predictions to be a bit more realistic.


Batman: The Brave and the Bold airs the rest of its initial 26 episode order and gets picked up for a third season, as does The Secret Saturdays.
Ben 10: Alien Force airs the rest of its second season, airs the third, and gets picked up for a fourth.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars airs its first season, and Cartoon Network decides to pick up two more seasons of the show.
You Are Here expands to 7pm in March.
Naruto airs its remaining episodes on YAH and Naruto: Shippūden follows.
After much negotiating, One Piece reruns to Cartoon Network, sharing the last hour of YAH with Shippūden.
Har Har Tharsdays expands to 7pm in Fall, with Cartoonstitute and Adventure Time airing in the first hour.
The Garfield Show airs on a weekday afternoon block.
Jetstream shows begin to air on Cartoon Network as the year goes on.
More stuff happens.

[Raidon Makoto]

Wow! Does anyone else get the impression that Draft may be clairvoyant? Will you help me play the stock market?
I hope he's wrong. Most of that sounds terrible.

[XDogg]

I hope he's wrong. Most of that sounds terrible.
Hey backoff Draft!:mad: He was just making A Prediction and If Some of those things become true I'd like to see your faces.:cool: I don't want any of this in My thread.

[soundmonkey44]

Hey backoff Draft!:mad: He was just making A Prediction and If Some of those things become true I'd like to see your faces.:cool: I don't want any of this in My thread.


.....Such Hostilty...I don't think Theres a Reason to Jump at the Lad..I mean he like you was jsut speaking his mind..I mean I to find the Predicitons Pretty pesamistic!

[Raidon Makoto]

Hey backoff Draft!:mad: He was just making A Prediction and If Some of those things become true I'd like to see your faces.:cool: I don't want any of this in My thread.
But most of the predictions were negative... You notice how most of those were him predicting that good things would fail? I wasn't saying anything about Draft, I was saying that I really hope those don't come true.

[XDogg]

.....Such Hostilty...I don't think Theres a Reason to Jump at the Lad..I mean he like you was jsut speaking his mind..I mean I to find the Predicitons Pretty pesamistic!
Umm Can You post this in a little more.......Understandable? I don't understand.:D

[soundmonkey44]

Umm Can You post this in a little more.......Understandable? I don't understand.:D


........................................Possibly

P.s. I like to use dots!:p :D :evil:

[NewcomerDC]

Sgt Frog wasn't voiced by Vic in the FUNi test dub...

And whether a dub is bad or not isn't going to mean jack to CN so expect PPGZ eventually with the dub it has (a bad one, a very bad one indeed).
Vic wasn't in the test dub? My bad. LOL Well I hope that Sgt. Frog gets a good dub though.

As for PPGZ's dub, I'm avoiding it like the plague and pray that another company can pick it up and give it the dub that we deserve...or change it up and make kids read with PPGZ being given the Japanese voice track with english subtitles. That would be fun.

[XDogg]

........................................Possibly

P.s. I like to use dots!:p :D :evil:
Are You Threatning me? When You Say I like to use dots I think You mean (You Like To Use Bullets):shrug:

[soundmonkey44]

Are You Threatning me? When You Say I like to use dots I think You mean (You Like To Use Bullets):shrug:


NO..My good man im mearly implying that i like to use a lot of dots (periods) in my sentences...Besides i never use a gun..TO cowardly..I fight with honor & Chivlry...Live & die by the sword i always say...or not!:p :sweat: :D

[TheKingofCN]

My predictions for CN in the year 2009 are as follows....

1. CN will aquire a new show that will be another smash hit for them in the way of Clone Wars and TDI, it will be unexpected and cause CN to over air the show and kill it :o(

2. You are Here and Har Har Tharsdays will continue to rock and both will get some nicer and newer bumpers added and maybe even a new show or two :o)

3. The Flicks and Action Flicks may get cancelled in late 09/early 2010 in favor of something with a little more substance that will please the older crowd.

4. Adult Swim will continue to abuse Family Guy and air KOTH for a full hour and make fans of shows that air later in the night that are actually good really mad...

More later :o)

[Silverstar]

4. Adult Swim will continue to abuse Family Guy and air KOTH for a full hour and make fans of shows that air later in the night that are actually good really mad...


CN wasn't doing anything with that last hour but running encores, so what's the big deal?

[TheKingofCN]

Your assessment that Family Guy and King of the Hill aren't good shows is just your opinion; opinion=/=fact. Obviously, some people clearly enjoy those shows, otherwise [adult swim] wouldn't be airing them.

Anyway, CN wasn't doing anything with that last hour but running encores, so what's the big deal?

I love Family Guy dude!!! Adult Swim just abuses the show by airing repeats way too often, but I never said I disliked it. As for King of the Hill, I know people love it and I know people hate it, it's just one of those shows with a love/hate relationship. I personaly don't enjoy it too much and think AS's 10-11 slot could be used to air stuff like Robot Chicken and ATHF and other shows that deserve earlier slots. I know my wording in that post made it seem like I didn't like FG, im sorry for the way it was posted.

And I know it's only my opinion, but thats what these discussion boards are for right.....? Peoples opinions? I respect the opinion of everyone, and if someone likes the shows I dislike then thats cool by me, I would never insult anyone for it.

[Silverstar]

:^: Sorry if that came off as a little harsh, but we get a lot of bile spewed on this board. Makes ya a little punchy sometimes. :sweat:

[TheKingofCN]

:^: Sorry if that came off as a little harsh, but we get a lot of bile spewed on this board. Makes ya a little punchy sometimes. :sweat:

It's all good, pal, I totally understand and very much see where you are coming from. Ive seen boards gets crazy with trolls and spam and the such in the past and I certainly would hate to see that happen here as there seems like a lot of nice people here.

Well, back to business :o)

[clipeuh]

I think XDogg and ThekingofCN should change their avatars... I mean it's getting really confusing. :sweat:

[Silverstar]

My predictions for CN in 2009:

At least 1 other show will be placed on the You Are Here lineup. (They can't just show encores of The Secret Saturdays and Clone Wars forever.)

A new morning or afternoon block will be created; this will likely be where The Garfield Show and Pink Panther and Pals will air. I can't see either show running at night, except maybe as encores.

I'd like to say that Looney Tunes will return to CN in some way, shape or form, but I can't read executives' minds. The New Year's Day marathon did well enough, though, so here's hoping.

[TheKingofCN]

I think XDogg and ThekingofCN should change their avatars... I mean it's getting really confusing. :sweat:


He had it first so I will be happy to change mine.....just give me a few.

[TheKingofCN]

My predictions for CN in 2009:

At least 1 other show will be placed on the You Are Here lineup. (They can't just show encores of The Secret Saturdays and Clone Wars forever.)

A new morning or afternoon block will be created; this will likely be where The Garfield Show and Pink Panther and Pals will air. I can't see either show running at night, except maybe as encores.

I'd like to say that Looney Tunes will return to CN in some way, shape or form, but I can't read executives' minds. The New Year's Day marathon did well enough, though, so here's hoping.

You are Here starts at 8pm, Adult Swim starts at 10pm, in order for You are Here to air an extra show it would have to drop to an earlier slot I would think? Batman, TSS, Clone, Ben takes up the 2 hours of programming YAH has, but I wouldn't be opposed to YAH starting at maybe 7pm and adding two new aquisitions, that would be fine with a lot of us I would think!

[warnerbroman]

one piece finally airs in the states again

[G-Man12]

Hey guys! let just say it's a pleasure to join you all on this awesome site!

For 2009, My perdictions for Cartoon Network are:

- Looey Tunes will come back to Cartoon Network and will either added
in a slot or replaced Tom and Jerry

* Nothing personally for Tom and Jerry, but Looney Tunes are
very funny to me

- A new block will be added for Saturday night either Summer or Fall

- A new animated Scooby-Doo movie will premiere once the movie dvd
is out

- new schedule line-up will be arrange starting in the summer

[Silverstar]

- Looney Tunes will come back to Cartoon Network and will either added
in a slot or replaced Tom and Jerry

Why would they replace Tom & Jerry with Looney Tunes? Surely there's room for both on CN's schedule.

* Nothing personally for Tom and Jerry, but Looney Tunes are
very funny to me

That's not a prediction. CN isn't going to remove T&J from their lineup just because one person doesn't like those shorts as much as Looney Tunes.

[soundmonkey44]

I think the only Reason AS abuses shows Loke Family Guy & KOTH are becuase those are shows that already have a big fan base...and lets face it not very many of the AS origionals are what one would call comedy gold. & most our just stupid chaep was for AS too fill up time on their B;ack/network or what ever...I mean not all the AS origionals are bad i like Ventrure Bros. ATHF, Harvy Birdman & & Robot chicken..and I can see why people like Boondocks & Metaocalypse...But the other AS origionals our just well Not really good...at all......Thats why I wish as would get more good shows...Like mabye Bevis & butthead?!:sweat: :D :evil:

[Racattack!Force]

Never really noticed how different Blossom (well, the character that's supposed to be Blossom) is in the anime. Blossom was a basically child prodigy in the original series. In the anime...she's a sugar addict that's constantly falling behind in school from the few episodes I've seen so far.

[warnerbroman]

PPG most likely won't return, since it's now airing on Boomerang.dosn't tom and jerry air on both?

[Mickialla]

dosn't tom and jerry air on both?

It's the only exception.

[Justy]

......Thats why I wish as would get more good shows...Like mabye Bevis & butthead?!:sweat: :D :evil:I thought you said good shows....;)

Seriously, it would figure that [as] would pick up a show like B&B..I myself would much rather see Daria...or Liquid Television for that matter...

How dumb does [as] think we are? The main reason it airs most of the originals it does is because they are cheaply animated and have enough violence, blood and gore, pseudo-sexual innuendo, and drug references to appeal to the audience they desire (male 18-24).

[YogiBR123]

Here are my CN 2009 predictions:

-Looney Tunes will return...
-TWF will be gone by end of the summer...
-The Flicks will be renamed...again...
-There will be new bumpers that feature the Noods, but in a different style...
-Courage the Cowardly Dog and Camp Lazlo will be taken off the air...

[G-Man12]

They can replaced Tom and Jerry due to the fact the the Looney Tunes marathon did so well because a lot of people (including me) missed those cartoons shorts that featured a lot of Looney Tune characters then watching only Tom and Jerry all the time.

[Mickialla]

They can replaced Tom and Jerry due to the fact the the Looney Tunes marathon did so well because a lot of people (including me) missed those cartoons shorts that featured a lot of Looney Tune characters then watching only Tom and Jerry all the time.

But it doesn't mean that Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes can't coexist on the network. The two were both on the network at the same time pretty much forever until Looney Tunes was taken off in 2004. If it does come back this year, then they can coexist the same way they did before 2004. Both are popular and have different styles of humor to offer and both can do well on the network at the same time.

[Blackstar]

They can replaced Tom and Jerry due to the fact the the Looney Tunes marathon did so well because a lot of people (including me) missed those cartoons shorts that featured a lot of Looney Tune characters then watching only Tom and Jerry all the time.

Why do so many people think that Looney Tunes could/should replace Tom & Jerry? Why must it be 1 or the other? Cartoon Network's schedule is big enough to support both shows.

[Mickialla]

Why do so many people think that Looney Tunes could/should replace Tom & Jerry? Why must it be 1 or the other? Cartoon Network's schedule is big enough to support both shows.

And it HAS supported both shows. Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry have been on Cartoon Network together since the very beginning up until Looney Tunes was taken off in 2004. Just because Tom and Jerry has been the only major classic airing on the network in the past 4-5 years doesn't mean it's always going to remain that network. First off, Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes aren't really related in any way besides their classic status. Why anyone would assume than Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes can't be on the same schedule is beyond me.

[DeanBurrito25]

Here are my predictions:

*Looney Tunes will return to Cartoon Network
*Adventure Time and Cartoonstitute will be huge hits
*Cartoonstitute will spawn at least 5 show spinoffs
*Johhny Test will be cancelled. (That show is terrbile.)
*Skunk Fu, Chop Socky Chooks, and Total Drama Island will be cancelled as well. (Those shows aren't good either.)
*Flapjack and Chowder will get more episodes/seasons.
*Cartoon Cartoons will return.
*A Dexters Lab Marathon-maybe.

Anyway I feel 2009 is gonna be a really good year for CN.

[chdr]

Johnny Test already is canceled, the airings will die down eventually one it stops getting ratings.

[DeanBurrito25]

Johnny Test already is canceled, the airings will die down eventually one it stops getting ratings.
Yeah that's what I meant.
By cancelled I mean CN takes it off completely.

[TheTerror]

I predict that You are Here and Har Har ThArsdays will become even more popular and one of which may even go to more than once a week in late 2009 or early 2010. I also predict Flapjack's popularity will wind down and he will become a memory, meanwhile a few new originals will come out an become big hits for Cartoon Network!

[alive]

i doupt tdi will diapear this year.after total drama action the're going to kill the show by showing re-run after re-run. I think more old shows will come back to haunt us like mucha lucha did. Unlike some people, I think chowder and flapjack will become big. maybe star wars: the clone wars will die down in 09. (hopefully):shrug:

[TheTerror]

i doupt tdi will diapear this year.after total drama action the're going to kill the show by showing re-run after re-run. I think more old shows will come back to haunt us like mucha lucha did. Unlike some people, I think chowder and flapjack will become big. maybe star wars: the clone wars will die down in 09. (hopefully):shrug:

Star Wars has too big of a following to die down completely until the new episodes end and they go on re-runs alone, it's going to be a while.

[Zekehawk]

I think it's safe to say that The Top 5 will return.

[Arithmetician]

I predict;

-Top 5 Returns (kind of obvious that it will :l)
-Dexter's Lab marathon (fusionfall viral promotions etc. you know CN)
-KND will most likely return on the schedule.
-Camp Lazlo will get more airing slots.
-Billy and Mandy will get more airing slots.
-Johnny Test to air less.
-Looney Tunes airing on weekends and in the morning (weekdays)

-More live action Nood bumpers (FFFFFFFFF-)
-EEnE Big Picture Show
-EEnE also gets more airing slots (once again, the movie, fusion fall etc)

-PPGZ gets aired on YAH
-PPG returns now, or in late 2009.

[Bright Eyes]

I'm guessing one of two things will happen. Either Courage will remain and this will open the door for a few other Cartoon Network classics, or they will remove Courage and it will be the last we'll see of the show.
My fingers are crossed that I at least get to see Sheep In The Big City or Cow And Chicken again.

[Blackstar]

I'm guessing one of two things will happen. Either Courage will remain and this will open the door for a few other Cartoon Network classics, or they will remove Courage and it will be the last we'll see of the show.
My fingers are crossed that I at least get to see Sheep In The Big City or Cow And Chicken again.


Not likely, since Sheep in the Big City has been done for some time now and wasn't a huge ratings success to begin with and Cow & Chicken is currently running on Boomerang.

[Bright Eyes]

Not likely, since Sheep in the Big City has been done for some time now and wasn't a huge ratings success to begin with and Cow & Chicken is currently running on Boomerang.

Ah, I don't have Boomerang so I wouldn't know. I'm glad to hear that Cow and Chicken gets play somewhere.

[DeanBurrito25]

Well, for one thing, I hope that those live action shows CN is planning won't air. They're doing so good right now!

[Silverstar]

Only 3 of these proposed live-action projects have actually been greenlit; the rest are just pilots (for now). And how long these shows last is entirely up to the viewers. If the 3 greenlit shows find an audience, then they're sure to stick around and we'll get more shows like them. The best way to squash this movement is abandon them in droves like what happened with Out of Jimmy's Head. If a show's ratings stink, then CN will stop producing it.

[Mickialla]

Here are my predictions:

*Looney Tunes will return to Cartoon Network
*Adventure Time and Cartoonstitute will be huge hits
*Cartoonstitute will spawn at least 5 show spinoffs
*Johhny Test will be cancelled. (That show is terrbile.)
*Skunk Fu, Chop Socky Chooks, and Total Drama Island will be cancelled as well. (Those shows aren't good either.)
*Flapjack and Chowder will get more episodes/seasons.
*Cartoon Cartoons will return.
*A Dexters Lab Marathon-maybe.

Anyway I feel 2009 is gonna be a really good year for CN.

Total Drama Island is currently CN's most popular series. It's second season (Total Drama Action) is being advertised like half a year in advance. It ain't goin' nowhere.

[Blackstar]

Here are my predictions:

*Looney Tunes will return to Cartoon Network
*Adventure Time and Cartoonstitute will be huge hits
*Cartoonstitute will spawn at least 5 show spinoffs
*Flapjack and Chowder will get more episodes/seasons.
*Cartoon Cartoons will return.
*A Dexters Lab Marathon-maybe.

Anyway I feel 2009 is gonna be a really good year for CN.

It takes at least 6 months to produce 1 episode of an animated TV series. There's no way that CN could have 5 spinoffs ready to roll in only 1 year.

*Johhny Test will be cancelled. (That show is terrbile.)
*Skunk Fu, Chop Socky Chooks, and Total Drama Island will be cancelled as well. (Those shows aren't good either.)Johnny Test is already canceled. CN only airs the reruns. And why would CN cancel Total Drama Island, one of the network's highest rated shows? It would be insane for them to do so. You're opinion does not equal fact; if you want these shows to be canceled, you'll have to come up with a better reason why besides "I don't like them". Just because a show is on, that doesn't mean you have to watch it.

[soundmonkey44]

for some Reason I find Predicitng fun...Im addicted..This well be my 3rd prediciton on this thread...Dedicated t0 Anime!


Animes with new episodes by fall 09

CN
Byakugan
Pokemon
PPGZ
AS
Bleach (since it seems more eps will be dubbed! YAY!)


This will most likely be true...with the exception of CN picking up ppgz....Its sad to think that anime may be completly dead to the network by this fall! Please CN pick up Shippuden...or at least Soul Eater!:( :( :p :sweat:

[KidsWBYourSelf]

My predictions:

*PPGZ will probably air
*Cartoon Cartoons and the Top 5 will come back
*Johnny Test will be gone
*Naruto Shippuden will probably air

[Draft]

I don't think It's Ckarvoient in the least...He seems spot on on some But off on many predicitons...I don't see Cartoonistiture failing..and Adventure time should get at least Decent ratings...& I think PPGZ would be on YAH or Saturday mornings Before HAR HAR Tharsdays!

& I don't think Jetstream will go anywhere until 2010 at least!



Thanks for giving reasons for explaining why my predictions will be wrong. Also I didn't know this was the "please disregard all other's opinions but your own" topic. (This does not go for you by the way). Plus I could easily find 10 more predictions that are way more ridiculous than mine

[soundmonkey44]

Thanks for giving reasons for explaining why my predictions will be wrong. Also I didn't know this was the "please disregard all other's opinions but your own" topic. (This does not go for you by the way). Plus I could easily find 10 more predictions that are way more ridiculous than mine

Sorry Dood! Did'nt meant to insult you (man people are so sensitive these days!:sweat: ) But seriously I did'nt mean to come off harsh..Im just saying in genaral I don't see any reason why cartooninstitute or Adventure time would fail...Imean I can see the new Hotwheels & Pink panther toons possibly failing...& even though I hate to say it...I could see PPGZ failing if its brought to the U.S. But yea don't take things so personal dood! People insult me all the time! well not all the time...But At least once or twice a week.:p :sweat: :evil:

[DeanBurrito25]

How come so many people think PPGZ is going to air on CN this year?
I haven't read anything online confirming that. :sweat:

[soundmonkey44]

How come so many people think PPGZ is going to air on CN this year?
I haven't read anything online confirming that. :sweat:


Becuase Us anime Fans Are Desprite DOOD! But seriously I think CN has said somthing about being interested in airing it in the U.S. But its true nothing has been confirmed...Its just the most liekley anime to air this year considering its based on a CN property and with Tension Between CN, VIZ & Funi...well.:sweat: :sad:

[TheTerror]

Becuase Us anime Fans Are Desprite DOOD! But seriously I think CN has said somthing about being interested in airing it in the U.S. But its true nothing has been confirmed...Its just the most liekley anime to air this year considering its based on a CN property and with Tension Between CN, VIZ & Funi...well.:sweat: :sad:

It does come down to hope, there is no fact to it. I don't care either way, but a lot of people seem to want them.

[Silverstar]

If PPGZ comes to CN, then maybe I'll check it out (I've already saw the first 2 or 3 episodes on a site I won't mention, and I wasn't all that wowed, but I hear that it gets better as it goes on), but it doesn't, then no big whoop. The original PPG is on Boomerang and DVD, so I can always stick with the original.

In any regard, I'd wait until I heard some official announcement about PPGZ coming to CN before I starting counting on it heralding the Prodigal Return of Anime's Golden Age on CN. If that doesn't happen, or if PPGZ doesn't live up ratings expectations, then people will just be setting themselves up for disappointment.

[DarthGonzo]

I think people only want PPGZ on CN because they want to see more anime on CN. Really, I don't know how someone who actually likes the original Powerpuff Girls show could like something like this. It just seems nothing like the original series. If Cartoon Network wants PPG on the main channel then they should move the original from Boomerang to CN.

[Mickialla]

I used to think that PPGZ would be a good fit for CN, but I've changed my mind since. I do want anime to be abundant on CN again, but I'm not just going to take the first anime I hear of and demand it be on the network. I don't mean to offend anyone who does actually like the anime, but I doubt that bringing back PPGZ will bring back Anime's prominence on the network the way it was during the years of shows such as DBZ, Gundam, Tenchi, Yu Yu Hakusho or Rurouni Kenshin (by far the best anime that have aired on Cartoon Network).

[Draft]

Sorry Dood! Did'nt meant to insult you (man people are so sensitive these days!:sweat: ) But seriously I did'nt mean to come off harsh..Im just saying in genaral I don't see any reason why cartooninstitute or Adventure time would fail...Imean I can see the new Hotwheels & Pink panther toons possibly failing...& even though I hate to say it...I could see PPGZ failing if its brought to the U.S. But yea don't take things so personal dood! People insult me all the time! well not all the time...But At least once or twice a week.:p :sweat: :evil:
No, I'm not really offended by saying my predictions suck, you have as much right to say mine suck as me saying yours suck. But the thing is, you offered NO INFORMATION to say why they were wrong other than a 'gut feeling' or the like. Things like this are why I consider every new user to be 10 and should not be on this board (that and there is no respekt towards older users)

[.bg]

I predict at least three live-action series will be greenlighted and shown. I also predict that the whining that will ensue from the regulars of this forum will cause mass bannings.

[Draft]

I predict at least three live-action series will be greenlighted and shown. I also predict that the whining that will ensue from the regulars of this forum will cause mass bannings.
I'll raise you with 2 live action series (As CN is already running a lot of original programming at the moment) and that at least 3 users will be banned per month for complaining about live action once the series are officially announced (at a probable April Upfront)

[.bg]

I also predict that the CN forum will need another moderator to deal with the rapid influx of bad behaviour.

[Mini Garbonzo]

I predict that people will complain about said live-action shows without even watching them.

[Jave]

I think people only want PPGZ on CN because they want to see more anime on CN.No, they want to see because they're simply curious about the show ("A different version of PPG? I don't care if it sucks, I HAVE to see for myself!") and they want a way to watch without breaking the law. It's perfectly fair, and it has nothing to do with wanting anime as a whole.

Really, I don't know how someone who actually likes the original Powerpuff Girls show could like something like this.People have varied tastes. I like both shows in their own right, and while I like PPG better (because it's funnier, not because it's the original), I can certainly watch (and enjoy) PPGZ.

It just seems nothing like the original series.It's not supposed to. They kept the basics, but it's a different series altogether.

If Cartoon Network wants PPG on the main channel then they should move the original from Boomerang to CN.PPGZ is not PPG, as mentioned above. It's a completely different series with different stories and characters modeled after an already existing series. Some may enjoy both, others may enjoy one but not the other.

Really guys, stop freaking out every time someone predicts or suggests CN to air PPGZ. It's based on a CN property, it already has an English version, and it's airing on many CNs around the world, not just Japan. Wanting it to air on CN US is only LOGICAL. It's not like the show could air anywhere else if it makes it to the US.

And seriously, you can always just ignore the comments. You may not want PPGZ to air, which is fine and all, but there's no need to start an argument just because someone wants something that may or may not happen.

[TheTerror]

I also predict that the CN forum will need another moderator to deal with the rapid influx of bad behaviour.

Well, when and if these new live action shows begin I hope the people here can discuss and debate them in a reasonable fasion rather than the haters attacking the people who enjoy them and vice versa and cause a flame war, that would be unneeded. I may just stay out of those topics all together when they arrive.

[.bg]

I've been around long enough to be able to assure you that your prediction will never come true. Just look at the CN thread in the Entertainment forum.

[Jave]

Just so you guys know, any live-action series CN airs will be discussed in Entertainment, not here.

[.bg]

How are you going to enforce that? I can see noobs coming in every day starting thread after thread about "CN SUX THAY DUN HAVE CARTUNZ NEMOAR DOOD", to the point where the staff is powerless to stop it.

[Mini Garbonzo]

I just hope that people won't go beserk when the shows air, the thread would end up just being a argument that keeps going in circles.

[Mickialla]

No, I'm not really offended by saying my predictions suck, you have as much right to say mine suck as me saying yours suck. But the thing is, you offered NO INFORMATION to say why they were wrong other than a 'gut feeling' or the like. Things like this are why I consider every new user to be 10 and should not be on this board (that and there is no respekt towards older users)

I don't want to act like some sort of self-proclaimed moderator, but I think we need to stop bringing this argument up. I'm not denying the fact that some users on this forum are a bit naive and somewhat "eccentric", but bringing up this argument just causes arguments and brings the thread one step closer to being locked. Oh, and also, I don't like pointing out grammar errors, but respect is spelled with a "c"; your spelling mistake is somewhat ironic seeing as how you're complaining about the rising number of younger board members.

[soundmonkey44]

No, I'm not really offended by saying my predictions suck, you have as much right to say mine suck as me saying yours suck. But the thing is, you offered NO INFORMATION to say why they were wrong other than a 'gut feeling' or the like. Things like this are why I consider every new user to be 10 and should not be on this board (that and there is no respekt towards older users)


OK glad theres no hard feelings...& by the way imnot 10 im 17 going on 18 dood!:D :evil: :sweat:

But I understand..Wee Noobs are annoying at times LOL.

[Jave]

How are you going to enforce that? I can see noobs coming in every day starting thread after thread about "CN SUX THAY DUN HAVE CARTUNZ NEMOAR DOOD", to the point where the staff is powerless to stop it.We've dealt with worse than that. You just worry about yourself not breaking any rules.

There haven't really been any "noobs" lately anyway.

[.bg]

If only you guys didn't ban Owner...

Seriously, that kid was hilarious.

[Draft]

Just so you guys know, any live-action series CN airs will be discussed in Entertainment, not here.

Can you explain why that is? I never got that like the NickComs/DisneyComs on the Entertainment Board. Though it is a smart idea, cause most of those topics end up with a ton of "WHY IS THIS CRAP AIRING WHEN THEY CANCEL THEIR MUCH BETTER ANIMATED SERIES" and "ALL OF TODAYS KIDS ARE IDIOTS". And the last thing the CN Board needs are more posts like that.

I also predict that the CN forum will need another moderator to deal with the rapid influx of bad behaviour.

I predict that they need at least 3 to deal with the current influx of bad behavior/uninformed users. While I have the upmost respect for the current staff of the CN Board (and are very good mods), 3 people is too little for the amount of traffic this part of TZ gets. I understand that Jave, Mugen, and Red cannot be on the board 24/7, and I understand that my opinion on the majority of newer users is not shared by everyone on the site. But when the Adult Swim board has twice as many staff members and is pretty inactive compared to the CN Board (not to mention how the CN Board targets a much younger demographic), you wonder why the CN Board has less staff, and what the board would be like if they had more.

Well, when and if these new live action shows begin I hope the people here can discuss and debate them in a reasonable fasion rather than the haters attacking the people who enjoy them and vice versa and cause a flame war, that would be unneeded. I may just stay out of those topics all together when they arrive.

Well, here's the thing. You've been on this board for less than a week. .bg and I have been on the board for over 3 and a half months. We know a little more about how the board works than you do. We know that most members on the site have grudges on Live Action programming on CN because then that makes less time for them to air their older series (plus the whole name thing). Most of these people live in their own little world where they think that the entire block should be basically the way it was in 1999 or even 2004. Not to mention the internet is basically a way for people to bash things anynomysly on the internet (and I totally butchered the spelling on that). .bg and I have witnessed numerous flame wars over the most pointless topics, because people usually don't care enough to give enough reason to back their thoughts up or refuse to listen to other's thoughts (which is why i'm basically redoing this entire post, to make my opinion seem more thought out and make it seem more factual).

.bg and I know that the talkbacks will end up with mostly hate (Though, isn't that basically what the internet is for?) by either 18+ year olds who live in the past (and are obviously too old for the network) and 10 year olds who are incredibly uninformed about how CN and Internet Boards work.

The whole lack of respect by newer users towards older users bothers me a lot too. When I first joined Toon Zone, I was a terrible poster (if you can find any posts of me in 2006, they look exactly like many of the posts in the current CN Board, not very thought out, not very good grammer, and usually ignore others). I was very ignorant, believing that my beliefs were the only correct ones. However, as time past, I realized that I should listen to these veteran users, as they know more than me and can help me become a better poster/not get banned. Though to be fair, most of them do not know better because they join underage (and while they won't admit it for obvious reasons) and their posting ability reflects that. I'll admit that I joined TZ a lot earlier than I should've

Wow, I got off track a lot. Main Point: Most Newer TZ Users are probably underage (due to more availabilty of the internet and the younger demo CN is targeting combined with poor education standards in todays schools) and are very opinionated (due to being underage and as a result being immature) and very disrespectful to those who are older than them

I don't want to act like some sort of self-proclaimed moderator, but I think we need to stop bringing this argument up. I'm not denying the fact that some users on this forum are a bit naive and somewhat "eccentric", but bringing up this argument just causes arguments and brings the thread one step closer to being locked. Oh, and also, I don't like pointing out grammar errors, but respect is spelled with a "c"; your spelling mistake is somewhat ironic seeing as how you're complaining about the rising number of younger board members.

You'll understand when a hoard of even worse members come to the board in 2-3 years. You'll wish you could do something to fix the board. By then, CN will probably be aiming at even younger demographics (and combined with the internet getting into more homes), the board will become even worse. I'm trying to state my opinions so this board doesn't get worse. While I do admit bringing it up in topics where the subject is relevant is not the best idea, all of my previous attempts have failed (Topic locked in the suggestions board, pming newer users to try and stop them from posting spam/getting banned, pming staff).

And I try not to make errors, but I know they cannot be helped (though I did spell respect wrong on purpose). But there are users that pot in all caps, or use at least 10 smilies in their posts, and there is no excuse for stuff like that

[TheTerror]

Well, technicly it has to do with CN, so us assuming that there will be some live action shows picked up is correctly posted in here. Unless you mean talkbacks, which still makes little sense to me imo (since it's CN related, it should be in the CN Board. But the topics will defiantly bring in a lot of hate posts, so it would be nice to at least limit some spam from the CN Board). But whatever works for you guys works for the board I guess..



I predict that they need at least 3 to deal with the current influx of bad behavior/uninformed users. While I have the upmost respect for the current staff of the CN Board (and are very good mods), 3 people is too little for the amount of traffic this part of TZ gets. Jave, Mugen, and Red cannot be on the board 24/7 to close topics and stop hate.



You've only been on this board for a week. .bg and I have been on this board for about 3 years each. When Out of Jimmy's Head was announced, there was tons of hate, especially from people who never watched the show. .bg and I know how this will end up, and it will end up bad. This is because we know most people who join the board probably join underage or are very uninformed about how CN works (not to mention ignore others opinions). I also know this because I was the same way when I first joined. Then I learned to respect users who were around longer than I was, and now i'm a much better user because I listened to them



You'll understand when a hoard of even worse members come to the board in 2-3 years. You'll wish you could do something to fix the board. By then, CN will probably be aiming at even younger demographics (and combined with the internet getting into more homes), the board will become even worse. I'm tryign to state my opinions so this board doesn't get worse. While I do admit bringing it up in topics where the subject is relevant is not the best idea, all of my previous attempts have failed (Topic locked in the suggestions board, pming newer users to try and stop them from posting spam/getting banned, pming staff).

And I try not to make errors, but I know they cannot be helped. But there are users that pot in all caps, or use at least 10 smilies in their posts, and there is no excuse for stuff like that


I totally see your points and it makes a lot of sense. Let's just hope that it does not happen, but since you said you have seen it happen before I guess it's unavoidable, it just makes me mad that people have to be that way. For the more mature CN fans here I suppose instead of fighting the war and getting into trouble, the best thing would be to fall back and let the mod's do their jobs and take care of any hate mongers who flame the board up. Not much else we can do when people refuse to chill out I guess.

[.bg]

I predict that they need at least 3 to deal with the current influx of bad behavior/uninformed users. While I have the upmost respect for the current staff of the CN Board (and are very good mods), 3 people is too little for the amount of traffic this part of TZ gets. Jave, Mugen, and Red cannot be on the board 24/7 to close topics and stop hate.
I'm not begging, but if the admins decide that this should happen, I have a few ideas on how to clean the CN forum up. ;)

[Draft]

I totally see your points and it makes a lot of sense. Let's just hope that it does not happen, but since you said you have seen it happen before I guess it's unavoidable, it just makes me mad that people have to be that way. For the more mature CN fans here I suppose instead of fighting the war and getting into trouble, the best thing would be to fall back and let the mod's do their jobs and take care of any hate mongers who flame the board up. Not much else we can do when people refuse to chill out I guess.
Well see, there's a problem with that. Jave, Mugen, and Red all have actual souls (unlike the numerous people who post on this board), which means that they have a life other than posting on an internet board and getting ego boosts when people say they are right. There is not enough staff to deal with newer users on this section of the board.

Also, a majority of older users have left the CN Board because of newer users. They see that the board that was filled with mostly filled with thoughtful discussion has turned into a board where basically people are stuck in the past and can't comprehend why their favorite show was cancelled (though at least it isn't as bad as the Toonami section of the board). There is plenty of evidence for this in the Fantasy Schedule Threads. As a result of this bias, when new shows are announced, most people complain that it will not be as good as these older shows...

[TheTerror]

Well see, there's a problem with that. Jave, Mugen, and Red all have actual souls (unlike the numerous people who post on this board), which means that they have a life other than posting on an internet board and getting ego boosts when people say they are right. There is not enough staff to deal with newer users on this section of the board.

Also, a majority of older users have left the CN Board because of newer users. They see that the board that was filled with mostly filled with thoughtful discussion has turned into a board where basically people are stuck in the past and can't comprehend why their favorite show was cancelled (though at least it isn't as bad as the Toonami section of the board). There is plenty of evidence for this in the Fantasy Schedule Threads. As a result of this bias, when new shows are announced, most people complain that it will not be as good as these older shows...

I didn't realize the ages of some of the people on this forum, it makes me feel old, but some people like Tednut, Cheddar, Draft, Mikialla, BG, CNportugal, ComicsQB, J!!!, Black/Silverstar and others are cool reguardless of their ages and I will always enjoy reading posts by them and as long as they are around to make this board cool then I don't see the point in leaving like the others did. I hope that whatever new members come along can coexist in harmony and make the board better and more productive.

I will add in a few more predictions to get things back on track for everyone. A main prediction and a sad one that I have been thinking about and discussed today with a friend on the phone. My prediction is that Looney Toon's will not make a full comeback on Cartoon Network and the marathon that ran a few weeks back was nothing more than a special day of cartoons. I do hope I am wrong on this statement.

[Mini Garbonzo]

I have a question, do you all consider a "noob" when it come to the CN board, I'm just curious is all.

[Galaxy 9000]

I have a question, do you all consider a "noob" when it come to the CN board, I'm just curious is all.


Only when the person acts like one.

[Racattack!Force]

How did this thread go from predictions about this new year to how downhill the forums are going? :confused:

[Blackstar]

Not to drag this thread any further off-topic than it's already gone, but if there's going to be any discord and/or rants about CN's embracing live action programs, it's not going to be from me. I complained about it at first, true, but now, even I'm tired of complaining about CN's current programming strategy. Every niche channel is gradually starting to move away from it's original theme. Why should CN be any different? And I never watched everything on CN in the 1st place, so what's the point in being angry about it? I'm going to treat CN like every other channel; the shows on it that I don't like, I won't watch. Period.

[Mickialla]

Well see, there's a problem with that. Jave, Mugen, and Red all have actual souls (unlike the numerous people who post on this board), which means that they have a life other than posting on an internet board and getting ego boosts when people say they are right. There is not enough staff to deal with newer users on this section of the board.

Also, a majority of older users have left the CN Board because of newer users. They see that the board that was filled with mostly filled with thoughtful discussion has turned into a board where basically people are stuck in the past and can't comprehend why their favorite show was cancelled (though at least it isn't as bad as the Toonami section of the board). There is plenty of evidence for this in the Fantasy Schedule Threads. As a result of this bias, when new shows are announced, most people complain that it will not be as good as these older shows...

Ok, I mean no offense to you or anyone else who supports you, but I find your last couple posts on this thread to be somewhat rude. I don't know what newbies/kids that you're speaking to exactly, but this thread has absolutely nothing to do with the argument in the first place. I feel guilty even responding to this because I know I'm further derailing the thread, but it'd be best for this argument to end before a perfectly good thread ends up being closed. And also, people can be "stuck in the past" and still be open to new material in the future. I'd like to believe that I am. All the fantasy schedules I've created have plenty of classics and older acquisitions/originals and anime, but I still enjoy some of CN's newer programming. And most of the people who are on this thread, even some of the oldest ones, still are fueled at least to some extent by nostalgic thoughts. Nostalgia isn't an attribute exclusive to "newbies".

Not to drag this thread any further off-topic than it's already gone, but if there's going to be any discord and/or rants about CN's embracing live action programs, it's not going to be from me. I complained about it at first, true, but now, even I'm tired of complaining about CN's current programming strategy. Every niche channel is gradually starting to move away from it's original theme. Why should CN be any different? And I never watched everything on CN in the 1st place, so what's the point in being angry about it? I'm going to treat CN like every other channel; the shows on it that I don't like, I won't watch. Period.

I do agree that extensive complaining and doing so in as many posts as one can about live-action gets unbearable (some people are like this about anime), but that doesn't mean that I'm just going to be okay with live-action on the network. Even if other networks have moved away from their niche programming doesn't mean CN has to. If all the other networks jumped off bridges, would CN do so too? CN's greatest years were filled with an all cartoon, all the time schedule. And they haven't had success with live action in the past either. Sure, I'm not going to watch the live action, but I'm not just going to ignore it either. Because live action being on the network can take off space on the network for a show that's more deserving of the slot. It doesn't mean that I'm going to complain about it to no ends either, though; I'm just not going to be ok with it, the way that I've noticed some of you guys here have accepted it.

[macattack]

Not to drag this thread any further off-topic than it's already gone, but if there's going to be any discord and/or rants about CN's embracing live action programs, it's not going to be from me. I complained about it at first, true, but now, even I'm tired of complaining about CN's current programming strategy. Every niche channel is gradually starting to move away from it's original theme. Why should CN be any different? And I never watched everything on CN in the 1st place, so what's the point in being angry about it? I'm going to treat CN like every other channel; the shows on it that I don't like, I won't watch. Period.

Now I'm going to respectfully disagree with that. Why should CN be different? Because being different means being special and creative in some way. If CN strays away from its original mission, it'll blend in with the glut of cable television. By not conforming, CN will be noticed as a channel that, in some way, is different from every other channel in existence. That's how CN was noticed from 1997-05, by refusing to compromise on its principles. When CN compromised, that's when the ratings collapsed.

CN's ratings began rising again because they hewed closer to their original mission, which means CN is being different from every other TV channel. That's something CN should keep in mind whenever their board of directors have meetings, approve original shows, decide what live-action projects to fund, tell Viz, Bandai, or FUNi to go to hell (heh), or whatever.

If CN stands out in some way, they will get an audience. That's how CN got an audience in the "prime years" of 99-02. No gimmicks. No compromising. Just straightforward animated entertainment from a variety of original, acquired, and classic programming. That makes CN different and special. And if they stray from that and conform to be like every other cable channel, well . . . you know where that'll go. They'll be just another channel on the dial. And that won't help them keep a consistent audience at all.

[soundmonkey44]

Now I'm going to respectfully disagree with that. Why should CN be different? Because being different means being special and creative in some way. If CN strays away from its original mission, it'll blend in with the glut of cable television. By not conforming, CN will be noticed as a channel that, in some way, is different from every other channel in existence. That's how CN was noticed from 1997-05, by refusing to compromise on its principles. When CN compromised, that's when the ratings collapsed.

CN's ratings began rising again because they hewed closer to their original mission, which means CN is being different from every other TV channel. That's something CN should keep in mind whenever their board of directors have meetings, approve original shows, decide what live-action projects to fund, tell Viz, Bandai, or FUNi to go to hell (heh), or whatever.

If CN stands out in some way, they will get an audience. That's how CN got an audience in the "prime years" of 99-02. No gimmicks. No compromising. Just straightforward animated entertainment from a variety of original, acquired, and classic programming. That makes CN different and special. And if they stray from that and conform to be like every other cable channel, well . . . you know where that'll go. They'll be just another channel on the dial. And that won't help them keep a consistent audience at all.


I completly Agree with you mackattack! & to somewhat reply to other posts...I do have a life outside of internet blogging...But only during SpringBreak & Summer! Im too lazy too do stuff year round...Ecspecially during the cold months dood!:sweat: :p :evil:

[warnerbroman]

I predict that people will complain about said live-action shows without even watching them. yep

it's like this

a good music video or even the best dose not belong on CNN

[RetroMike]

I really haven't seen much of Cartoon Network recently, but I will predict that Looney Tunes at least gets a morning slot and does pretty decent.

[Blueranger]

So, you guys would rather have crappy not so good cartoon shows over live action which might do well?

[Blackstar]

So, you guys would rather have crappy not so good cartoon shows over live action which might do well?

Yes. Yes we would. Why? because it's Cartoon Network, not Live Action Network. Just because a live action series might do well, that doesn't justify it's presence on the self described "Best place for CARTOONS."

[Silverstar]

So, you guys would rather have crappy not so good cartoon shows over live action which might do well?

Yep. Regardless of how good a live-action show is, the fact remains that Cartoon Network is for CARTOONS. Saying "I wouldn't mind live-action shows on CN as long as they're good live-action shows" is like saying "I wouldn't mind porno on Noggin as long as it's quality porno".

Night Court, The Young Ones, Mr. Show with Bob and David and Red Dwarf were all great live-action shows, but I don't want to see any of them on Cartoon Network.

[Blackstar]

But seriously, folks, let's not re-ignite that tired old "Should CN air live action?" song and dance again, as there's already a thread for it in the Entertainment Forum and it's irrelevant to this thread's topic.

Does anyone have any more predictions for CN in 2009?

[warnerbroman]

Does anyone have any more predictions for CN in 2009?"Should CN air live action?" argument will keep going?

Yep. Regardless of how good a live-action show is, the fact remains that Cartoon Network is for CARTOONS. Saying "I wouldn't mind live-action shows on CN as long as they're good live-action shows" is like saying "I wouldn't mind porno on Noggin as long as it's quality porno". I won't mind

[.bg]

"I wouldn't mind porno on Noggin as long as it's quality porno".
I'm sure plenty feel the same way. :D

[SuperMegaHyper]

I'm gonna try and break away from this and make my own predictions,

Adventure Time will go on HHT and might make it as a hit.

Cartoonstitute will also go on HHT and a few series might spawn from it.

Cartoonstitute will might get a few rookie animators.

Johnny Test will either die or stay in the weekday morning slot.

One Piece (Hopefully), Transformers Animated, Naruto Shippuden, Hotweels: Battle Force 5: Will go to YAH.

Action Flicks will be forced to gain rights to more movies.

The new Live Action show, Ben 10 AF(live action) Scooby Doo (live action) will have decent ratings :sad: .

The New live action show will be universaly hated.

Garfield will probally premiere in June.

Ed, Edd and Eddy the Big Picture show will make decent ratings.

We might get more of Samurai Jack the movie (maybe a teaser trailer)

CN will have a DB/DBZ marathon to promote DBE.

Looney Tunes will probally have a weekday/early weekend morning slot.

And thats all I have.:sweat:

[TheTerror]

I have said this before, but I really don't see Looney Toon's returning to CN on a full time basis, I would like it to, but I dont see it happening.

I predict the Nood's will become even more popular and spawn a series of merchendise from figures to lucnhboxes and maybe even T-Shirts.

I predict HHT and YAH will get new bump's and it will please everyone to the point of a thread being started and getting over 100 pages of comments, lol.

I predict even more movies will be played on CN. Every morning, and weekends for multiple airings of The Flicks/Action Flicks but maybe under a different package.

Last prediction is that CN WILL indeed add a live action show or two around October and pair it with Gosebumps as a short lived block before CN realizes that live action is just not for them.

[SuperMegaHyper]

I have said this before, but I really don't see Looney Toon's returning to CN on a full time basis, I would like it to, but I dont see it happening.

I predict the Nood's will become even more popular and spawn a series of merchendise from figures to lucnhboxes and maybe even T-Shirts.

I predict HHT and YAH will get new bump's and it will please everyone to the point of a thread being started and getting over 100 pages of comments, lol.

I predict even more movies will be played on CN. Every morning, and weekends for multiple airings of The Flicks/Action Flicks but maybe under a different package.

Last prediction is that CN WILL indeed add a live action show or two around October and pair it with Gosebumps as a short lived block before CN realizes that live action is just not for them.Actually now that I remember it CN is going to air a Twlight Zonish show in October, can't remember if it's animated or not.

[John Dorian]

Actually now that I remember it CN is going to air a Twlight Zonish show in October, can't remember if it's animated or not.

I haven't heard of that. Must have missed that one.

[chdr]

I haven't heard of that. Must have missed that one.UGLYbook. I think it's supposed to be a live-action movie.

[Racattack!Force]

UGLYbook. I think it's supposed to be a live-action movie.It's supposed to be a live-action/animated movie that's airing late 2009 or 2010.

[mkalv]

A live action movie? Aw, man!:mad:

[Old School Toon]

Now I'm going to respectfully disagree with that. Why should CN be different? Because being different means being special and creative in some way. If CN strays away from its original mission, it'll blend in with the glut of cable television. By not conforming, CN will be noticed as a channel that, in some way, is different from every other channel in existence. That's how CN was noticed from 1997-05, by refusing to compromise on its principles. When CN compromised, that's when the ratings collapsed.

CN's ratings began rising again because they hewed closer to their original mission, which means CN is being different from every other TV channel. That's something CN should keep in mind whenever their board of directors have meetings, approve original shows, decide what live-action projects to fund, tell Viz, Bandai, or FUNi to go to hell (heh), or whatever.

If CN stands out in some way, they will get an audience. That's how CN got an audience in the "prime years" of 99-02. No gimmicks. No compromising. Just straightforward animated entertainment from a variety of original, acquired, and classic programming. That makes CN different and special. And if they stray from that and conform to be like every other cable channel, well . . . you know where that'll go. They'll be just another channel on the dial. And that won't help them keep a consistent audience at all.

CN strived so well in the late 90s to mid 00s because they had a variety of shows and mixed the old and the new. Not to mention they had great blocks. On the animation side as I've said numerous times the 90s in general had an animation rennicanse in terms of quality of shows, ideas, actual animation and they weren't so politicaly correct. With most of this decade in terms of animated shows they seem to have been dummbed down and people haven't really been taking any risk with shows. With shows like Flapjack it is similar to the 90s and early 00s because it's the same type of show that you would have expected back then. It seems now that CN is trying to get back to that but one thing that made so sense was with you saying they should tell Viz or Bandai or Funimation to go to hell.

Anime is still very huge in America. It's not as big as Japan obviously but it seemd like such a craze in the 90s and early 00s because it was new to America and if it weren't for Funimation, Bandai and Toei CN would have never gotten DBZ which was the networks biggest accomplishment to date. If DBZ didn't catch on like it did the anime probably wouldn't have caught on like it did in America and CN probably would have been a completely different channle. Now DBZ was already a huge ulitbillion dollar multimedai franchise before CN picked it up but it was more or less just a fanboy thing in America until Toonami aired it. CN owes alot of Funimation, Toei and Bandai for their success. If it weren't for Toei or Funimation then DBZ may have never came to CN and if it weren't for Bandai and the DBZ toys then DBZ may have never caufghht on like it did. All in all CN shunning Viz, Bandai or Funimation would make no sense. Anime still has a huge market but there are so many animes and because of the internet if you want a big anime you have to pick the right property. Naruto was a huge success for CN so them saying no thanks to the biggest anime distributors and producers in America would not make much sense buisness wise.

Predctions

-Cartooninstitue becomes a success the same way Cartoon Cartoons was and spawns numerous shows to be greenlit. However only 1 or 2 shows are greenlit for the 2009 tv season from Cartooninstitute. CN does a long term production contract for Cartooninstitute for an additional 3 seasons.
-Adventure Time becomes a moderate success and airs on Har Har Thursdays
-HHT takes to 7-10 spot and the lineup is 6 Teen at 7, Chowder at 7:30, Adventure Time at 8, Flapjack at 8:30, TDI at 9 and TDA at 9:30. However the time change only occurs when Adventure Time airs
-You Are Here follows HHT suit and takes the 7-10 spot on Fridays only when CN greenlights or aquires 2 new shows for the 7-8 timeslot
-CN announces 3 new CN originals for the 2009 tv season with 1 of them being one of the Cartooninstitube greenlit shows
-CN announces a new afternoon block similar to Toonami for weekdays for the 4-7 timeslot. Possibly from 3:30 to to 7
-Looney Toons returns to the schedule for Saturdays only from 12:00 pm to 3:00 pm
-DAS gets renamed as a new block for Saturday mornings from 8 am to 12 pm
-CN announces 2 new anime aquaisations for the 2009 season including Naruto Shippuden
-Saturday night gets a new block for cartoons and Flicks is taken off
-Cartoonn Cartoon gets a Sunday timeslot as well as other CN original classics that don't air on Boomerang
-PPG, Ed,Edd and Eddy return to a CN timeslot on Sunday or another day. Courage continues to be successful and says on the network
-Fosters ends and brings in good numbers for it's finale. The final eason in general brings in decent numbers
-The Ed, Edd and Eddy movie does huge numbers and puts the show back on rotation
-Billy and Mandy gets into rotation and another Billy and Mandy movie is announced
-CN picks up the rights to 1 or 2 shows from Random Cartoons that Nick decides not to pick up but they don't announce a date for them
-CN announces they have a slew of new animated shows for 2010 as well as some shows returning
-A new Warner Bros. Animation is announced for the 2009 year that will be a action cartoon and another one is announced for 2010 as being a comedy similar to Tiny Toons
-A new DCAU show is announced for the 2010 season
-CN announces they have something very big planned for their 20th aniversary in 2012
-A Spinoff show based on Fushion Fall is announced

And that's all I can think of for now

[lemonhead75]

Hmm...not sure If I've posted in here before, but anyways...

The Cartoonstitute will spawn 3 shows this year
TDA will get the best ratings of the year
Chowder will get renewed, again
Flapjack will get renewed, again
A Underfist sequel/series will be announced
CN will finish airing Storm Hawks(Hopefully)
After the movie, Ed Edd n Eddy will be on weekdays
Johnny Test will only be on weekday mornings
Looney Tunes will get a weekend spot
Fosteres will go out with a bang
The Garfield Show will fail epicly, and be cancelled

[Blackstar]

-A new Warner Bros. Animation is announced for the 2009 year that will be a action cartoon and another one is announced for 2010 as being a comedy similar to Tiny Toons

Doubtful. Warner Brothers doesn't seem to be in the weekly animated comedy series business at the present time. Also, from what I understand, WB and Turner aren't getting on too well these days.

-A new DCAU show is announced for the 2010 seasonNo. The DCAU is dead. It rode off into the sunset after the final episode of Justice League Unlimited. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of another DC animated series like The Brave and the Bold (which is not DCAU), though.

-Looney Toons returns to the schedule for Saturdays only from 12:00 pm to 3:00 pmI don't think so. The Looney Tunes library is too extensive for CN to run LT/MM for only 1 day a week. I predict that LT will air on weekday mornings or early afternoons like Tom & Jerry. A evening run would be nice, but I'm not counting on that.

[Old School Toon]

Doubtful. Warner Brothers doesn't seem to be in the weekly animated comedy series business at the present time. Also, from what I understand, WB and Turner aren't getting on too well these days.

No. The DCAU is dead. It rode off into the sunset after the final episode of Justice League Unlimited. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of another DC animated series like The Brave and the Bold (which is not DCAU), though.

I don't think so. The Looney Tunes library is too extensive for CN to run LT/MM for only 1 day a week. I predict that LT will air on weekday mornings or early afternoons like Tom & Jerry. A evening run would be nice, but I'm not counting on that.

Well WB and Turner didn't stop the Brave and the Bold not to mention I remeber hearing they made up and Turner got it's past library back or something similar that had to do with their disagreements.

And while JLU did have a pretty definate ending it's always a possibilty that it's revisted somethime in the future. In the world of entertainment nothing is done forever is it was a success. It'll either be remade or revisited somewhere in the future.

[macattack]

Anime is still very huge in America. It's not as big as Japan obviously but it seemd like such a craze in the 90s and early 00s because it was new to America and if it weren't for Funimation, Bandai and Toei CN would have never gotten DBZ which was the networks biggest accomplishment to date. If DBZ didn't catch on like it did the anime probably wouldn't have caught on like it did in America and CN probably would have been a completely different channle. Now DBZ was already a huge ulitbillion dollar multimedai franchise before CN picked it up but it was more or less just a fanboy thing in America until Toonami aired it. CN owes alot of Funimation, Toei and Bandai for their success. If it weren't for Toei or Funimation then DBZ may have never came to CN and if it weren't for Bandai and the DBZ toys then DBZ may have never caufghht on like it did. All in all CN shunning Viz, Bandai or Funimation would make no sense. Anime still has a huge market but there are so many animes and because of the internet if you want a big anime you have to pick the right property. Naruto was a huge success for CN so them saying no thanks to the biggest anime distributors and producers in America would not make much sense buisness wise.

You clearly have never read one of my posts before.

I'm all for anime appearing on CN. I like a lot of anime. I think anime makes up a piece of CN's identity, and when CN tells Bandai, Viz, and FUNimation to go to hell like what they've been doing, they're ignoring a piece of their identity and that will cost them in their ratings. Whether CN likes it or not, airing anime is part of their original mission because they're showcasing a piece of the world's best animation. And when CN ignores that part of their mission they are only defeating themselves.

CN is shunning three of the companies that helped make CN what it is today. You're right, it makes no sense. Then why is CN treating Naruto, a CN ratings champ for three consecutive years, like a piece of trash? Why is Bandai and FUNi exiled from the network (other than a pitiful 1:30 a.m. airing of Code Geass R2 on Adult Swim, and FUNi's FMA and Shin-Chan properties airing later?). It's not just ratings like a lot of people say. There is a larger agenda going on here, like what Jeff Harris has suggested in the past.

[Silverstar]

And while JLU did have a pretty definate ending it's always a possibilty that it's revisted somethime in the future. In the world of entertainment nothing is done forever is it was a success. It'll either be remade or revisited somewhere in the future.

And you know this, how? Do you have some sort of proof? A link? A source of info? Blind optimism isn't the same thing as a prediction.

Seriously, why is it so hard for some people to just let the DCAU go and appreciate the other DC-related projects that come down the pike? It's not like Bruce Timm, Alan Burnett and Paul Dini are the only ones permitted to work on a DC Comics cartoon. DC cartoons didn't start with the DCAU, and it shouldn't end with them.

[RPG KING]

dbz/db marathon to promote DBE
New comedy show on HHT
new shows for saturday morning block
more marathons of old CN shows on sundays

[The Overlord]

You clearly have never read one of my posts before.

I'm all for anime appearing on CN. I like a lot of anime. I think anime makes up a piece of CN's identity, and when CN tells Bandai, Viz, and FUNimation to go to hell like what they've been doing, they're ignoring a piece of their identity and that will cost them in their ratings. Whether CN likes it or not, airing anime is part of their original mission because they're showcasing a piece of the world's best animation. And when CN ignores that part of their mission they are only defeating themselves.

CN is shunning three of the companies that helped make CN what it is today. You're right, it makes no sense. Then why is CN treating Naruto, a CN ratings champ for three consecutive years, like a piece of trash? Why is Bandai and FUNi exiled from the network (other than a pitiful 1:30 a.m. airing of Code Geass R2 on Adult Swim, and FUNi's FMA and Shin-Chan properties airing later?). It's not just ratings like a lot of people say. There is a larger agenda going on here, like what Jeff Harris has suggested in the past.

Naruto is getting treated that way, because it no longer got good ratings, because of its own poor pacing.

CN's mission stateemnt is to show cartoons, but they never said they would always show Japanese cartoons.

Japan needs to make an cartoon that appeals to this geenration of North American kids, if they want to be shown on CN.

[soundmonkey44]

Japan needs to make an cartoon that appeals to this geenration of North American kids, if they want to be shown on CN.


So basically a show thats completly Decensatized with no smart humor, Philisophical alagories or moral point! No thank you... I don't think Japan needs to dumb down there cartoons like the U.S. has the past few years (although there our a few exceptions...Like the little quotes at the Start of CLone wars for instance!)

[Racattack!Force]

So basically a show thats completly Decensatized with no smart humor, Philisophical alagories or moral point! No thank you... I don't think Japan needs to dumb down there cartoons like the U.S. has the past few years (although there our a few exceptions...Like the little quotes at the Start of CLone wars for instance!)I find those a bit sappy. :sweat:

[The Overlord]

So basically a show thats completly Decensatized with no smart humor, Philisophical alagories or moral point! No thank you... I don't think Japan needs to dumb down there cartoons like the U.S. has the past few years (although there our a few exceptions...Like the little quotes at the Start of CLone wars for instance!)

No not I meant, I meant a story that is well paced and can get its plot points across and isn't so decompressed it loses its audience.

Compare: avatar was about 60 eps, had an ongoing story and had a hand full of filler, Naruto was 220 plus eps and had what, a 100 filler eps, which now those shows actual managed to maintain its schedule position on TV? Bad pacing does not equal a smart series, it just makes for a boring one, one that kids would lose interest in and will fail in the long run.

[TheTerror]

You clearly have never read one of my posts before.

I'm all for anime appearing on CN. I like a lot of anime. I think anime makes up a piece of CN's identity, and when CN tells Bandai, Viz, and FUNimation to go to hell like what they've been doing, they're ignoring a piece of their identity and that will cost them in their ratings. Whether CN likes it or not, airing anime is part of their original mission because they're showcasing a piece of the world's best animation. And when CN ignores that part of their mission they are only defeating themselves.

CN is shunning three of the companies that helped make CN what it is today. You're right, it makes no sense. Then why is CN treating Naruto, a CN ratings champ for three consecutive years, like a piece of trash? Why is Bandai and FUNi exiled from the network (other than a pitiful 1:30 a.m. airing of Code Geass R2 on Adult Swim, and FUNi's FMA and Shin-Chan properties airing later?). It's not just ratings like a lot of people say. There is a larger agenda going on here, like what Jeff Harris has suggested in the past.

So you think there may be an anti anime conspiricy going on behind closed doors at CN? This could very well be and for a while I have thought to defend CN's treatment of anime but the more and more I think about it and with posts like this I am starting to think something may be going on.

[Mickialla]

You clearly have never read one of my posts before.

I'm all for anime appearing on CN. I like a lot of anime. I think anime makes up a piece of CN's identity, and when CN tells Bandai, Viz, and FUNimation to go to hell like what they've been doing, they're ignoring a piece of their identity and that will cost them in their ratings. Whether CN likes it or not, airing anime is part of their original mission because they're showcasing a piece of the world's best animation. And when CN ignores that part of their mission they are only defeating themselves.


So true. I personally think there are five core parts to CN's identity that they should be focusing on and are, like you said, a part of their "mission". There's classics, originals, anime, N. American acquisitions, and adult material. Currently CN is only focusing mainly on their originals and North American acquisitions, and adult material is scarce outside of [as]. And while CN's originals and (some of) acquisitions are good, the network lacks due to the lack of classics, anime, and adult material.

[chdr]

So true. I personally think there are five core parts to CN's identity that they should be focusing on and are, like you said, a part of their "mission". There's classics, originals, anime, N. American acquisitions, and adult material. Currently CN is only focusing mainly on their originals and North American acquisitions, and adult material is scarce outside of [as]. And while CN's originals and (some of) acquisitions are good, the network lacks due to the lack of classics, anime, and adult material.Why should they? AS was specifically made for that kind of stuff.

[Mickialla]

Why should they? AS was specifically made for that kind of stuff.

True, I knew someone was going to hit me with that one. When I referred to adult material, I guess I was referring more or less to good adult material, instead of cheap and barely though-out shows like Stroker and Hoop or the Drinky Crow Show. Adult material that was viewable by kids (Space Ghost: C2C, Cartoon Planet, Tex Avery/Bob Clampett shorts) was aired on proper CN and made up a nice fraction of CN's programming. It wasn't the sex/gore/unnecessary language type of adult material that airs on [as]. It was more of a middle ground between family material and the [as] material. It wasn't as friendly as family material, but it wasn't as extreme as [as] material.

[TheTerror]

True, I knew someone was going to hit me with that one. When I referred to adult material, I guess I was referring more or less to good adult material, instead of cheap and barely though-out shows like Stroker and Hoop or the Drinky Crow Show. Adult material that was viewable by kids (Space Ghost: C2C, Cartoon Planet, Tex Avery/Bob Clampett shorts) was aired on proper CN and made up a nice fraction of CN's programming. It wasn't the sex/gore/unnecessary language type of adult material that airs on [as]. It was more of a middle ground between family material and the [as] material. It wasn't as friendly as family material, but it wasn't as extreme as [as] material.

I feel Drinky Crow is a funny and witty show that fits the mold of good adult style television, same with Robot Chicken, Xavier, ATHF and others. But to each their own. I am a big defender of personal taste and what some enjoy, others may not. No biggie.

[Silverstar]

Eh, [adult swim] isn't all bad. I actually enjoyed Stroker & Hoop. And Robot Chicken is OK when they get a good concept. Metalocalypse is pretty good, especially season 1; sure, the blood and gore are a tad gratuitous, but that's what makes it so "metal".

It's worth mentioning that Space Ghost: C2C aired on Cartoon Newtork late nights, prior to the creation of [as]. Once that was established, SG: C2C was shipped over to that block. Cartoon Planet originally aired on weekdays and the bits with Space Ghost and company were originally just wraparounds for old cartoon shorts.

Having said all that, I agree that some of the more 'risque' outings (e.g. Toon Heads, Tex Avery Show, Bob Clampett Show, O Canada) could work on CN if they aired at night, either during the 9-10 PM hour right before [adult swim], or perhpas during the first hour of [as] during the 10 PM hour. I also agree that there should be a middle ground of programming between kid-friendly and [as] extreme. Many of my own cartoons walk that fine line, so a block like that is something that I'd like to see.

I don't think it's going to happen, mind you, but it's something I'd like to see.

[macattack]

CN's mission stateemnt is to show cartoons, but they never said they would always show Japanese cartoons.

Japan needs to make an cartoon that appeals to this geenration of North American kids, if they want to be shown on CN.

Jim Semples (or whatever his name was) back when he ran CN promised CN would always pick up anime and there would always be a Toonami. He didn't do a great job of managing CN (CN's decline period happened under his management) but he did grant that much. Course, the moment he was fired Toonami was killed and anime was shunted off.

There are Japanese cartoons being developed with Western audiences in mind. Deltora Quest is based off a Australian YA novel series that is sold in the US. Guardians of Luna is Japanese-animated and American-written. There are a bazillion French/Japanese co-pros going on right now. I don't see CN picking them up. It isn't because the Japanese aren't trying to appeal to Western audiences (though admittedly that's secondary compared to the core Japanese audience for obvious reasons). There is a larger agenda behind the scenes. It may not be anti-anime per se, but that is the end result of the agenda.

So true. I personally think there are five core parts to CN's identity that they should be focusing on and are, like you said, a part of their "mission". There's classics, originals, anime, N. American acquisitions, and adult material. Currently CN is only focusing mainly on their originals and North American acquisitions, and adult material is scarce outside of [as]. And while CN's originals and (some of) acquisitions are good, the network lacks due to the lack of classics, anime, and adult material.

That's basically how I view an ideal CN too. Unfortunately, first they neglected the adult material, then the classics, and now the anime. How long before they neglect the other two parts of their identity?

[The Overlord]

Jim Semples (or whatever his name was) back when he ran CN promised CN would always pick up anime and there would always be a Toonami. He didn't do a great job of managing CN (CN's decline period happened under his management) but he did grant that much. Course, the moment he was fired Toonami was killed and anime was shunted off.

He is not there anymore, so who cares what he said? Unless he created CN, his statements are irrelevant, because he's long gone. Companies change management and thus change objectives all the time, that guy isn't there anymore so his statements no longer matter. The comments from some guy who used to work at KFC 30 years ago, have no basis on the company now.


There are Japanese cartoons being developed with Western audiences in mind. Deltora Quest is based off a Australian YA novel series that is sold in the US. Guardians of Luna is Japanese-animated and American-written. There are a bazillion French/Japanese co-pros going on right now. I don't see CN picking them up. It isn't because the Japanese aren't trying to appeal to Western audiences (though admittedly that's secondary compared to the core Japanese audience for obvious reasons). There is a larger agenda behind the scenes. It may not be anti-anime per se, but that is the end result of the agenda.


That's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about pacing, that's why Naruto is barely on CN anymore, it was killed by its own bad pacing. Like I said Avatar had pacing and overall had better mantained run on TV because of it. If you have 80 filler eps in a row, kids are going to lose interest and start playing games instead.

This isn't the 90s anymore, anime is no longer new and is kinda losing its luster and has to compete against video games and internet and a bunch of other stuff to get kids interested. In order to compete with all that other stuff, you need an anime series that is both action packed and well paced. If you don't have that, North american kids won't care.

[soundmonkey44]

I feel Drinky Crow is a funny and witty show that fits the mold of good adult style television, same with Robot Chicken, Xavier, ATHF and others. But to each their own. I am a big defender of personal taste and what some enjoy, others may not. No biggie.


I agree personal tastes should be defended..But i find it funny that so called adult humor is more immature the regular humor in many cases...although i respect peoples right to watch and enjoy AS origionals..I really think they should Focus more on mainstream acquisitions like they Did with KOTH & PJ's..i think the last thing CN/AS need is more so called "Adult material" I do agree with mickialla about more CN origionals and anime however.:sweat:

[Loki]

there will definatly be a new mask series that will be the most popular thing ever to air on cartoon network and put the mask the animated series on boomerang i bet if the mask the animated series aired on cn back when it aired on saturday morning it wouldve made the network more popular than nickelodeon

[TheTerror]

I agree personal tastes should be defended..But i find it funny that so called adult humor is more immature the regular humor in many cases...although i respect peoples right to watch and enjoy AS origionals..I really think they should Focus more on mainstream acquisitions like they Did with KOTH & PJ's..i think the last thing CN/AS need is more so called "Adult material" I do agree with mickialla about more CN origionals and anime however.:sweat:


More action originals and more anime would be great, I'm all set with the comedy stuff for right now, I get my fill with AS and HHT.

[Silverstar]

Unfortunately, first they neglected the adult material, then the classics, and now the anime. How long before they neglect the other two parts of their identity?

CN has an entire sub-channel devoted to adult material ([adult swim]), they've given us back Courage and Tom & Jerry, and recently we've gotten marathons of both Looney Tunes and Powerpuff Girls, with an all-new PPG special. How's that neglectful?

And CN isn't neglecting anime either; there's just not any big time anime coming down the pike right now. Anime imports in general are on kind of a down time currently.

[SuperMegaHyper]

CN has an entire sub-channel devoted to adult material ([adult swim]), they've given us back Courage and Tom & Jerry, and recently we've gotten marathons of both Looney Tunes and Powerpuff Girls, with an all-new PPG special. How's that neglectful?

And CN isn't neglecting anime either; there's just not any big time anime coming down the pike right now. Anime imports in general are on kind of a down time currently.Yeah, but what about the animes that CN has they rights but don't do squat with it, perfect example DB/DBZ, they could of any of thier movies on AF but they don't, however they could just be saving them for DBE.:sweat:

[Silverstar]

Yeah, but what about the animes that CN has they rights but don't do squat with it, perfect example DB/DBZ, they could of any of thier movies on AF but they don't, however they could just be saving them for DBE.:sweat:

They've aired 3 of the DBZ movies (Tree of Might, World's Strongest and Dead Zone) ad nausea, and the series has been running on CN forever, even long after its' inital run was complete. What do you want, for them to run DB/Z reruns 'til the end of time? Dragon Ball had a good run. You can always just buy the DVDs if you want to see DBZ again.

Personally, I'd rather get new movies on Action Flicks as opposed to re-running the DBZ movies for the umptee-seventh time.

[SuperMegaHyper]

They've aired 3 of the DBZ movies (Tree of Might, World's Strongest and Dead Zone) ad nausea, and the series has been running on CN forever, even long after its' inital run was complete. What do you want, for them to run DB/Z reruns 'til the end of time? Dragon Ball had a good run. You can always just buy the DVDs if you want to see DBZ again.

Personally, I'd rather get new movies on Action Flicks as opposed to re-running the DBZ movies for the umptee-seventh time.That is besides my point, my point is that they have they have anime linceses and yet they wont use them, One Piece is another example, when (if ever are they going to air it agian) Autrailia has it, I can name a hell of alot of animes they have or they could get, and I can't see why they wont show them.:shrug:

[Blackstar]

Cartoon Network doesn't have the broadcasting rights to every anime in the world, and maybe there just aren't any anime series or movies that they feel are worth acquiring. They don't have to show anime movies. Cartoon Network only promised to show cartoons, not cartoons from Japan.

[SuperMegaHyper]

Cartoon Network doesn't have the broadcasting rights to every anime in the world, and maybe there just aren't any anime series or movies that they feel are worth acquiring. They don't have to show anime movies. Cartoon Network only promised to show cartoons, not cartoons from Japan.True, but they are nice additions to thier libary and add much needed varity to thier lineup.

[warnerbroman]

CN has an entire sub-channel devoted to adult material ([adult swim]), they've given us back Courage and Tom & Jerry, and recently we've gotten marathons of both Looney Tunes and Powerpuff Girls, with an all-new PPG special. How's that neglectful?

And CN isn't neglecting anime either; there's just not any big time anime coming down the pike right now. Anime imports in general are on kind of a down time currently.WHat One piece is awesome (Why won't they air it here!!)

[Silverstar]

One piece is awesome (Why won't they air it here!!)

One Piece isn't exactly 'new'; it's been in circulation for a while now, and to be fair, not including the original sub, OP didn't really start to get good until FUNimation took over the dub.

As for why CN yanked it, I couldn't say. Pity too, it would've been a good fit for You Are Here.

[TheTerror]

One Piece isn't exactly 'new'; it's been in circulation for a while now, and to be fair, not including the original sub, OP didn't really start to get good until FUNimation took over the dub.

As for why CN yanked it, I couldn't say. Pity too, it would've been a good fit for You Are Here.

Do you think there is a good chance of YAH picking up some anime at some point?

[PalmelaFC]

Do you think there is a good chance of YAH picking up some anime at some point?

If they started YAH at 7pm, it could just work!:p

[TheTerror]

If they started YAH at 7pm, it could just work!:p

7-10 would be perfect and then they could add some anime like Shippuden and One Piece, or something else.

[Racattack!Force]

This is just a guess, but maybe CN just doesn't see any cartoons from Japan worth picking up and airing at this time.

[DarthGonzo]

This is just a guess, but maybe CN just doesn't see any cartoons from Japan worth picking up and airing at this time.

That's a sensible reason and possibly a likely one.

[Blackstar]

Do you think there is a good chance of YAH picking up some anime at some point?

I don't see why not, provided that there's any anime that CN would feel is worth bringing over.

Personally, I'm not concerned with YAH picking up anime so much as the block obtaining a couple more shows to add some variety to the block and to make it longer.

[TheTerror]

I don't see why not, provided that there's any anime that CN would feel is worth bringing over.

Personally, I'm not concerned with YAH picking up anime so much as the block obtaining a couple more shows to add some variety to the block and to make it longer.

I am happy with the 2 hours, but I will agree that a third hour with new content and not encores would do the block and the network some good. Maybe sometime this year we will see it happen.

[Blackstar]

I am happy with the 2 hours, but I will agree that a third hour with new content and not encores would do the block and the network some good. Maybe sometime this year we will see it happen.

Agreed, if YAH were to gain an extra hour, I would hope that it would be with 2 new shows (or at least series that were "new" to Cartoon Network), as opposed to CN just airing an hour of encores. I've heard some people say that they'd like to see YAH start at 7pm (EST) so that the block would be 3 hours long. It's only too bad that CN lost the 10pm hour to Adult Swim and King of the Hill, but I'd feel worse about that if CN had been doing anything noteworthy with that last hour.

[TheTerror]

Agreed, if YAH were to gain an extra hour, I would hope that it would be with 2 new shows (or at least series that were "new" to Cartoon Network), as opposed to CN just airing an hour of encores. I've heard some people say that they'd like to see YAH start at 7pm (EST) so that the block would be 3 hours long. It's only too bad that CN lost the 10pm hour to Adult Swim and King of the Hill, but I'd feel worse about that if CN had been doing anything noteworthy with that last hour.

I think it does stink that they put AS on at 10 now, but YAH was doing nothing with the third hour anyway besides the encores, but if they were to add a third hour and add new content then I see YAH becoming an even bigger hit and people who may have been anti YAH due to Toonami's death coming around if the shows are anime, and are good. If not anime then maybe a few new action originals or they could dive into their library and air something fun like the He-Man show from a few years back until they produce a new series. Di-Gata maybe?

[.bg]

Believe it or not, CN doesn't have to please all of the people all of the time, nor is it possible to do so. If CN doesn't air one minute of anime from this moment on, they've done more than enough to make the medium an international success.

[TheTerror]

Believe it or not, CN doesn't have to please all of the people all of the time, nor is it possible to do so. If CN doesn't air one minute of anime from this moment on, they've done more than enough to make the medium an international success.

They did try, thats for sure. I guess it's a niche market and in the U.S an anime series becoming a huge hit is kind of rare. Besides maybe 3 or 4 series, I cant think of any anime that really made it HUGE besides Yugioh, Pokemon, Naruto and DBZ. Hopefully in the future it's given another chance.

[SuperMegaHyper]

They did try, thats for sure. I guess it's a niche market and in the U.S an anime series becoming a huge hit is kind of rare. Besides maybe 3 or 4 series, I cant think of any anime that really made it HUGE besides Yugioh, Pokemon, Naruto and DBZ. Hopefully in the future it's given another chance.Salior Moon, and Voltron(too a certien extent).

[Racattack!Force]

Believe it or not, CN doesn't have to please all of the people all of the time, nor is it possible to do so. If CN doesn't air one minute of anime from this moment on, they've done more than enough to make the medium an international success.It would be impossible to please everyone anyway. :shrug: Frankly, I don't 't care what show the country is from, as long as its good.

[Silverstar]

They did try, thats for sure. I guess it's a niche market and in the U.S an anime series becoming a huge hit is kind of rare. Besides maybe 3 or 4 series, I cant think of any anime that really made it HUGE besides Yugioh, Pokemon, Naruto and DBZ. Hopefully in the future it's given another chance.

Well, let's keep in mind that those above listed anime series were already pretty popular in Japan, otherwise US distributors wouldn't have bothered bringing those shows over here in the first place. CN (nor any other network, for that matter) is going to go through all of the channels, time and trouble to acquire a mediocre show from any country. Execs only bet on what seems like a sure thing. Importing a show that isn't popular in its' native country wouldn't be good business.


It would be impossible to please everyone anyway. :shrug: Frankly, I don't 't care what country the show is from, as long as its good.

I agree 100%.

[Antiyonder]

Dragon Ball had a good run. You can always just buy the DVDs if you want to see DBZ again.

Not it's a given that it would be taken off the air eventually, but they should have at least aired it in reruns a couple of times on weekday (Airing a show with over 200 episodes on one is week is frankly stupid) from the premiere to the finale. As it is, the reruns would never reach The Super Saiyaman Saga.

[J!!!]

For TDA to premire in August and do double premiers in the beginning so they can finish the season by December

[TheTerror]

I am going to predict that TDA will not be as big of a hit as TDI was, call it a funny feeling but I don't see lightning striking twice with this show.