I need some advice about school.

[Megaman X]

Well before I start, any advice you give me please do not let it involve punching anybody kk?

So basically I'm in 10th grade, and this year has been actually going very good so far but of course High School always has some kind of issue somewhere.

I have this first period P.E. class with probably the hardest teacher to get, who basically is a marine coach in most people's eyes(he's actually not that bad just rough with the running and what not.)

And well there is these two guys in class who for whatever reason find me as a perfect target for gay jokes, saying trash about and what not.(mostly for my tall height, curly hair, and having to wear cruddy glasses for the time being.)Seriously I will be completely honest I never even talked to them once and or even noticed them until they starting throwing insults. Of course I just ignore them as they are probably low life's and what not and they will probably find a new target but of course life just does not work that way? They now decided to throw rocks at my head(small ones so it's not like I will actually get hurt >_>) in class when the teacher is you know.. being Mr. looking at the other direction and not watching us or caring at the moment. Now they basically treat me like trash, say constant things about me, and really it's getting on my nerves completely. Of course I stand up for myself quite few times, I even went up to one and acted like I was ready to fight him and he backed away.

Of course that did not make them stop, now in class they try to act tough by throwing punches at each other and such >_> it's really sad. But the problem I am having is I can't stand up for myself to well. I mean it's almost every day in P.E. rocks or some kind of thing thrown at my head and what not and really besides this class, school is pretty dang great. Now if your wondering, WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE TEACHER!? The reason why is because I feel even though I tell the teacher I still feel I won't be able to ever get the strength to stand up for myself, you know what I mean? What am I post to do when I get older and have to deal with someone else in my life who is getting on my nerves? Besides me acting like I was going to fight one of them(which I somewhat regret but not really.) it feels like I'm completely weak and I can't handle anything like this at all.

Advice would be great. I'm tired of letting stupid things like this trouble me, oh and to note I might even switch myself out of this class for a advance drama class next semester that I'm trying out for in about a week or so.

Even though this whole thing might sound completely stupid to you guys, it was actually really nice to type it out. Makes me feel better and somewhat ready to go back to school in a week.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Well before I start, any advice you give me please do not let it involve punching anybody kk?

So basically I'm in 10th grade, and this year has been actually going very good so far but of course High School always has some kind of issue somewhere.

I have this first period P.E. class with probably the hardest teacher to get, who basically is a marine coach in most people's eyes(he's actually not that bad just rough with the running and what not.)

And well there is these two guys in class who for whatever reason find me as a perfect target for gay jokes, saying trash about and what not.(mostly for my tall height, curly hair, and having to wear cruddy glasses for the time being.)Seriously I will be completely honest I never even talked to them once and or even noticed them until they starting throwing insults. Of course I just ignore them as they are probably low life's and what not and they will probably find a new target but of course life just does not work that way? They now decided to throw rocks at my head(small ones so it's not like I will actually get hurt >_>) in class when the teacher is you know.. being Mr. looking at the other direction and not watching us or caring at the moment. Now they basically treat me like trash, say constant things about me, and really it's getting on my nerves completely. Of course I stand up for myself quite few times, I even went up to one and acted like I was ready to fight him and he backed away.

Of course that did not make them stop, now in class they try to act tough by throwing punches at each other and such >_> it's really sad. But the problem I am having is I can't stand up for myself to well. I mean it's almost every day in P.E. rocks or some kind of thing thrown at my head and what not and really besides this class, school is pretty dang great. Now if your wondering, WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE TEACHER!? The reason why is because I feel even though I tell the teacher I still feel I won't be able to ever get the strength to stand up for myself, you know what I mean? What am I post to do when I get older and have to deal with someone else in my life who is getting on my nerves? Besides me acting like I was going to fight one of them(which I somewhat regret but not really.) it feels like I'm completely weak and I can't handle anything like this at all.

Advice would be great. I'm tired of letting stupid things like this trouble me, oh and to note I might even switch myself out of this class for a advance drama class next semester that I'm trying out for in about a week or so.

Even though this whole thing might sound completely stupid to you guys, it was actually really nice to type it out. Makes me feel better and somewhat ready to go back to school in a week.



Alright, If you truly DIDNT do anything to these guys, it sounds like your classic case of people who have nothing better to do with there lives. What you should do is just try your hardest to NOT talk to them, at all, if they continue, then you should do something, I know it may seem like it won't do any good, but, in reality, maybe they don't know that there demeaning you to the point where your upset, you really can't just let them do this to you your whole life, Maybe also try asking them to kindly stop, that it's really annoying what there doing, and that neither of them or you are getting anywhere with the situation your having. Bullys can be really complicated, they could have personal issues at home or they do it to impress others to make them seem "cool", and if you talk to someone, try talking to multiple people, maybe a teacher (someone you really know can help) or maybe a relative of one of these bullys that go to your school, maybe you could get them to talk to these bullys for you, you gotta take this into your own hands, but fighting back will make it seem like there getting to you, and lets them know that they are accomplishing there goal, of annoying you.

[Master Moron]

Well before I start, any advice you give me please do not let it involve punching anybody kk?

So basically I'm in 10th grade, and this year has been actually going very good so far but of course High School always has some kind of issue somewhere.

I have this first period P.E. class with probably the hardest teacher to get, who basically is a marine coach in most people's eyes(he's actually not that bad just rough with the running and what not.)

And well there is these two guys in class who for whatever reason find me as a perfect target for gay jokes, saying trash about and what not.(mostly for my tall height, curly hair, and having to wear cruddy glasses for the time being.)

Wait, why would being tall make you get bullied? I thought the bigger you are the less likely it is to get bullied? As for the curly hair, maybe you should shave your head. That would be pretty bad ass.

[peterg14]

You really should try telling a teacher first. Then if they still don't stop, then it may be time to actually fight back and stand up for yourself. You need to realize that there will always be people in your life that won't like you for whatever reason, so you need to fight back to make them respect you.

I had the same problems in middle school, and fought back against the bullies. I did get beat up a few times, but they soon respected me for my guts. I think you should try taking a self defense class or ask your dad to help you learn how to fight, but in the end, you need to realize that only you have the power to truly stop the bullying.

[KPTitan]

Wait, why would being tall make you get bullied? I thought the bigger you are the less likely it is to get bullied?

That can actually be sort of a stereotype....sorta. If you're bigger than your attackers, then yes, you wouldn't get bullied physically. But verbally, you can. I was one of the tallest kids in my kindergarten class all the way though 4th or 5th grade, and I was either mistaken by an older kid, or I actually got picked on for being "too tall" for my age.:sweat:

[The Falcon]

Throwing rocks? Call the cops for "battery with a weapon".

Running to an authority figure (I was kidding with the above comment.) will only make matters worse. I used to be in your position, too. All through out high school actually. Except I never heard any gay jokes. They only picked on me because I was shy. Anyway, getting a "higher up" involved will quiet them for a little while, but after that cools over, they'll be back and worse than ever. There's no real solution out of this, unfortunately. That's why bullying is such a big issue. Either start some rumors about them or punch them upside the nose.

[Dr.Pepper]

Why don't you tell the princepal. That's what I did when some girl was bullying me in PE in the 10th grade

[Zeonic Freak]

Dude,

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Ok, if it boils down to that, then yes, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Passive Aggressive only goes so far. You can only ignore them so much before you freaking go beserk on them (or heaven forbid, decide to blast them eric harris style with a shotgun), but your going to get to a point where if this keeps up, you will find a way to take them out. I pushed one of my classmates into a wall at the Simthsonian Institute because he kept verbally harrasing me (and it got annoying), so i couldnt take it, and shoved him into a wall. After that, no more problems. Some people really need to physicly get their butts kicked to get the point.

Go freaking face to face with them, tell them why they pick on you, at least whatever BS reason they give its better than nothing. If you wanna go an "tattle" then that only works for so long. Or, you could just wait for them to just do something so terrible to you that they themselves will be known as the biggest jerks, and you couldnt give them a leg to stand on in defense.

Like say they physicly injure you with a rock, you show proof to a teach, they would be $^&*caned forever at school, probably not come back.

Its up to you on what you wanna let happen. Im just throwing out suggestions...

[SaMaster14]

Well, you said in your first post that you are tall, are you skinny though, or do you have some muscle? can you put up a fight?

I'm a martial artist, and i'm acutally pretty short, but I have a lot of muscle and fighting experience, so nobody really picks on me(though I do go to a private school in the middle of the "nice" part of Los Angeles, so I don't know what hard-core public school is like), but if I was ever physically threatened, I would fight back. If its easily noticeable, like if you get scratched or have a noticeable mark from the rock or something, i would wait to get hit, immediately turn around and start screaming in their faces and threaten to fight back, and hopefully by then the teacher will pick up on it and you can show that they through a rock at you by showing the scratch/bump or whatnot.

I mean, I'm a pretty physical guy and, well, its not a good thing, but I'm always looking for a fight if I'm threatened, I just can't stand being picked on for the life of me, it has to do with pride I guess, and not ever wanting to loose, but thats me.

Just my two cents, but it may not be the way you want to go.

hope I helped, sorry if I didn't :p

[Megaman X]

Great advice thanks guys! , and as for the questions if I'm skinny or if I have muscle and all that stuff. I am skinny and as for muscle it's just somewhat, no I'm not that skinny nerd walking in the hall way getting thrown in trash cans by jocks that you see on tv but I have a somewhat similarity in some people's eyes for whatever reason(probably because in my school you don't catch much people with tall height, curly hair, and glasses like I do xD and I am from New York so it's a bit uncommon in my area.). Really I'm sure I can handle this situation somehow, most of the bullies that I had in Junior high act quite nice to me now but that's because they actually matured unlike most people at my school.

What I will probably do is if it gets to the point where the rock throwing and such gets way overboard I will just go head to head with them and see how they react, really I will admit guys call me a wimp if you want but I just can't imagine myself hurting another person, of course if they are throwing rocks at me it's about time I fight back then huh?

As I said thanks! Toon Zone always did seem like the site of advice. I got my spirits right back up again about this stuff and Master Moron.. no I will not shave my head, I actually like my hair a lot. o_o

[SaMaster14]

Great advice thanks guys! , and as for the questions if I'm skinny or if I have muscle and all that stuff. I am skinny and as for muscle it's just somewhat, no I'm not that skinny nerd walking in the hall way getting thrown in trash cans by jocks that you see on tv but I have a somewhat similarity in some people's eyes for whatever reason(probably because in my school you don't catch much people with tall height, curly hair, and glasses like I do xD and I am from New York so it's a bit uncommon in my area.). Really I'm sure I can handle this situation somehow, most of the bullies that I had in Junior high act quite nice to me now but that's because they actually matured unlike most people at my school.

What I will probably do is if it gets to the point where the rock throwing and such gets way overboard I will just go head to head with them and see how they react, really I will admit guys call me a wimp if you want but I just can't imagine myself hurting another person, of course if they are throwing rocks at me it's about time I fight back then huh?

As I said thanks! Toon Zone always did seem like the site of advice. I got my spirits right back up again about this stuff and Master Moron.. no I will not shave my head, I actually like my hair a lot. o_o


no problem, I hope my advice helped. Good luck with your problem though, i hope everything works out, and those bullies get back the pain they caused you ten times! lol

[Dr. Faust]

*If your glasses are reason for being mocked wear stylish glasses then, be sure no one tricks you into wearing womans glasses.

*Have a hair cut, the bald head looks very respectable (unless it'll be handier to protect your head from stones)

*Keep ignoring their verbal abuse, some people just talk for the reason of looking cool to others or they're jealous of the one they mock. (as a kid they used to annoy me with "a babe loves you", too bad I didn't say you're just jealous:p)

*Shoved by stones? Hold their hands with a tight enough grip for them to feel pain (no breaking) and make them publicly promise not to hurt anyone, this will be fun:D (before you do that make sure they aren't members of any gang, they'll hand you more pain than just stones)

*If you're not very much the social type get involved with some activities, make new friends, etc....

*Take some martial arts classes, they don't just teach you how to fight they also help build up a character to help you confront abusers. You did say you confronted them a few times but this will make you frighten them for a much longer time

[SaMaster14]

*If your glasses are reason for being mocked wear stylish glasses then, be sure no one tricks you into wearing womans glasses.

*Have a hair cut, the bald head looks very respectable (unless it'll be handier to protect your head from stones)

*Keep ignoring their verbal abuse, some people just talk for the reason of looking cool to others or they're jealous of the one they mock. (as a kid they used to annoy me with "a babe loves you", too bad I didn't say you're just jealous:p)

*Shoved by stones? Hold their hands with a tight enough grip for them to feel pain (no breaking) and make them publicly promise not to hurt anyone, this will be fun:D (before you do that make sure they aren't members of any gang, they'll hand you more pain than just stones)

*If you're not very much the social type get involved with some activities, make new friends, etc....

*Take some martial arts classes, they don't just teach you how to fight they also help build up a character to help you confront abusers. You did say you confronted them a few times but this will make you frighten them for a much longer time

definitely agree about the martial arts class, I've been taking martial arts for almost 12 years, and I love it. I feel VERY secure in any tight spot, physical or mental. I am always calm when confronted with a troubled situation.

[Master Moron]

definitely agree about the martial arts class, I've been taking martial arts for almost 12 years, and I love it. I feel VERY secure in any tight spot, physical or mental. I am always calm when confronted with a troubled situation.

Just make sure you don't take lessons at the Boys and Girls club, if those are even still around. I took karate lessons there as a kid and it was the biggest waste of my parent's money. I learned absolutely nothing.

[Light Lucario]

Just make sure you don't take lessons at the Boys and Girls club, if those are even still around. I took karate lessons there as a kid and it was the biggest waste of my parent's money. I learned absolutely nothing.

That would explain why I didn't really learn anything useful those couple of years of taking martial art classes. Another one of those failed attempts at trying to build up my self-esteem when I was little.

I can relate to your situation, Megaman X. I don't recall people throwing gay insults towards me, though I do remember someone asking me, in a rude way, if I was a lesbian in high school, but I have been bullied for being taller than my average classmates throughout most of elementary school. A lot of rocks were thrown my way as well. While telling a teacher might be helpful, I would first suggest asking them kindly to stop. I have tried facing people head to head when they were bullying me and it just made matters worse. No one respected me and people continued to bother me. If that doesn't work, then I would get your principal instead of your teacher, mainly because your teacher might not listen, being a strict one, and maybe getting someone outside of your P.E. class would be more helpful for you. I hope it all works out for you with whatever choice you choose to take.

[SaMaster14]

I have another idea, but this would only work if you are willing to maybe get hurt. somehow set them up. Get a friend with a camera or something or tell a teacher, but so you don't get in trouble for tattling, have the teacher "coincidentally" be walking by you, while you provoke these jerks into either throwing a rock at your or potentially hitting you. I mean try to avoid getting hurt, but let them make the first strike with a teacher viewing it, but make sure they can't see the teacher.

Beware though, only do this if you think you can take a hit.

[Daxdiv]

Just make sure you don't take lessons at the Boys and Girls club, if those are even still around. I took karate lessons there as a kid and it was the biggest waste of my parent's money. I learned absolutely nothing.

That would explain why I didn't really learn anything useful those couple of years of taking martial art classes. Another one of those failed attempts at trying to build up my self-esteem when I was little.


Wow! I didn't realize that taking those classes were useless, either you guys went to the wrong places, or I found the right one? But then again I took them in High School so I had the strength to know that it was better than what I was using was helpful and weight lifting helped as well.

As for MegaManX's problem, I say fight back since that how I made most of my friends.

[DarthGonzo]

I have another idea, but this would only work if you are willing to maybe get hurt. somehow set them up. Get a friend with a camera or something or tell a teacher, but so you don't get in trouble for tattling, have the teacher "coincidentally" be walking by you, while you provoke these jerks into either throwing a rock at your or potentially hitting you. I mean try to avoid getting hurt, but let them make the first strike with a teacher viewing it, but make sure they can't see the teacher.

I don't think life works in such a way that this is really possible.

From what I've learned doing anything about bullies and teasing usually doesn't help. Oftentimes it just makes things worse, especially if you get parents or teachers involved. I wouldn't even recommend fighting back since odds favor there being serious consequences one way or the other.

My advice is to try and ignore the people who are targeting you. That's not always easy but if you try to show bullies that they can't get any reaction out of you they'll eventually give up and find an easier target. In the meantime you can also try to make friends with somone who has similar interests. There's always strength in numbers.

[.bg]

You're kidding, right? Bullies have figured out by now that ignoring them is the strategy adults give to the bullied, so it doesn't work anymore. It also puts out the image that you're a doormat who's willing to put up with verbal abuse.

The one strategy that works is to learn to laugh at yourself. People don't like your height? Crack a few jokes about how tall you are. People don't like your glasses? Crack a few jokes about being near-sighted. They'll be too busy laughing to come up with any more snide comments, plus you'll get a reputation for your sense of humor.

[DarthGonzo]

The one strategy that works is to learn to laugh at yourself. People don't like your height? Crack a few jokes about how tall you are. People don't like your glasses? Crack a few jokes about being near-sighted. They'll be too busy laughing to come up with any more snide comments, plus you'll get a reputation for your sense of humor.

But if your sense of humor sucks royally it could have the exact opposite result.

[.bg]

If you work at it, you'll get respect.

[cathedral]

Advice would be great. I'm tired of letting stupid things like this trouble me, oh and to note I might even switch myself out of this class for a advance drama class next semester that I'm trying out for in about a week or so.

running away huh? being bullied is all mental. in this case i don't see how there is anything to gain so i'd guess some part of them is threatened by you. think about the long-term consequences vs benefits of punching one of them right in the face. if your teacher is an ex-marine and he knew the backstory, he'd probably applaud it. the problem is if you don't stand up for yourself and alter the situation, nothing will change. the situation will not alter itself. so pretend you have a spine at first and ask yourself what that you would do. then do that. it might seem like a challenge but why the hell would you put up with something like this on a daily basis? whether you think so or not, this behavior of yours is establishing a pattern that will last all your life. most people don't ever mature properly and there will always be bullies. do you really want to be the spineless guy all your life?

[Master Moron]

Wow! I didn't realize that taking those classes were useless, either you guys went to the wrong places, or I found the right one? But then again I took them in High School so I had the strength to know that it was better than what I was using was helpful and weight lifting helped as well.


You took karate lessons at the Boys and Girls Club? My instructor basically taught us that the person who runs away from a fight wins the fight. What a completely useless thing to tell kids. What happens if a kid runs slowly and the other kid jumps him and beats the crap out of him? Yeah, he really won that fight. He never had the students practice their moves against each other. We mostly just punched the air. Honestly, how are we going to learn anything just from punching the air? I mean, a person's face doesn't feel like the air. In addition, when you're fighting a person, they tend to move around. Just punching in a straight line isn't going to do you any good unless the person just stands there and lets you hit them. Our teacher also never advanced anybody's belts. I think he didn't want anybody's self esteem to be lowered by not receiving another belt so he just kept everyone as a white belt. I mean, the instructor obviously hated competition of any kind so no one really had to try in the class. I never learned anything or received any feedback. It was just week after week of punching the air.

Of course, the experience of taking Karate classes at the Boys and Girls club pales in comparison to the experience of signing up for soccer at the Boys and Girls club. I never even got to play.

[Daxdiv]

You took karate lessons at the Boys and Girls Club? My instructor basically taught us that the person who runs away from a fight wins the fight. What a completely useless thing to tell kids. What happens if a kid runs slowly and the other kid jumps him and beats the crap out of him? Yeah, he really won that fight. He never had the students practice their moves against each other. We mostly just punched the air. Honestly, how are we going to learn anything just from punching the air? I mean, a person's face doesn't feel like the air. In addition, when you're fighting a person, they tend to move around. Just punching in a straight line isn't going to do you any good unless the person just stands there and lets you hit them. Our teacher also never advanced anybody's belts. I think he didn't want anybody's self esteem to be lowered by not receiving another belt so he just kept everyone as a white belt. I mean, the instructor obviously hated competition of any kind so no one really had to try in the class. I never learned anything or received any feedback. It was just week after week of punching the air.

Of course, the experience of taking Karate classes at the Boys and Girls club pales in comparison to the experience of signing up for soccer at the Boys and Girls club. I never even got to play.

Wow that Kwam/Dojo must have sucked big time. Nah the place I went to was a place the exclusively taught in martial art. We actually practice moves on each others like grapples, kicks and punches. We even had sparring matches against each other, provided we all had to wear our armor.

[Desensitized]

You're kidding, right? Bullies have figured out by now that ignoring them is the strategy adults give to the bullied, so it doesn't work anymore. It also puts out the image that you're a doormat who's willing to put up with verbal abuse.

The one strategy that works is to learn to laugh at yourself. People don't like your height? Crack a few jokes about how tall you are. People don't like your glasses? Crack a few jokes about being near-sighted. They'll be too busy laughing to come up with any more snide comments, plus you'll get a reputation for your sense of humor.From my experience, this is what has worked in my life.

Either I turned them around on their opinion of me, or they just lost interest in bothering me.

Ignoring has never worked from what I've seen, but confronting (I'm not saying fighting, specifically) usually does.

And Dax, learning to fight in high school is a lot different from learning it in elementary school. When I took it in high school, there were kids half my age taking it and they had pretty high ranking belts. How well do you think they would do in a real fight?

[Daxdiv]

And Dax, learning to fight in high school is a lot different from learning it in elementary school. When I took it in high school, there were kids half my age taking it and they had pretty high ranking belts. How well do you think they would do in a real fight?

But Megaman X is in 10th grade, which gives him more of a reason to take it up again, he'll learn more and most likely practice in a large room in his house, which is what I did, compared to what a little kid could do.

Sure in my classes the young kids did seem unfocused, but the one around my age and my sister grades were complete beast in the art, winning medals in events, hell the place I went to had many trophies and medal, and they even had the videos to prove that they were number one, the older kids that is.

Of course I did have some natural strength, and weight lifting in High School did pay off, I need to get back to doing that honestly myself. So I might be bias and look at that as what my teacher called "Sham Schools" as that, as that is what they are.

[Megaman X]

running away huh?

Wait hold on I never said I was running away. A bit off the subject but I am really into acting and most likely going for it as a career for myself, this advance acting class is setting the beginning it up for me. As for all the advice thanks guys, I think I know how to understand and um actually I have taken karate already but the classes in my area are really expensive and not worth it, but it's a suggestion that's not bad so thank you.

I think I can handle this situation now without anything worrying me, thanks again guys and wish me luck for next week or maybe even the future.