If You Could have A Sitcom To Air On CN. [Archive]

Silverstar

12-26-2008, 08:29 AM

The show I would choose would be Good Times. Dynomite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

This makes absoulute zero sense. Cartoon Network isn't TBS nor is it TV Land. If nobody could stand the thought of an original live-action sitcom (the infamous Out of Jimmy's Head) airing on CN, what leads you to believe a 20-year old rerun of a live-action sitcom would be any better received?

So my answer is "None whatsoever, unless they're animated."

Blackstar

12-26-2008, 08:35 AM

Put me down for none at all, unless said sitcom is animated. Why no live action sitcoms? *Points to the first word in the CARTOON Network logo*. There you go.

SUPER SPIDERMAN

12-26-2008, 08:37 AM

I am not lookling for an argument. Please just answer the question.:sad:

Blackstar

12-26-2008, 08:40 AM

I am not lookling for an argument. Please just answer the question.:sad:

So far, everyone who has posted here has. Where's the argument? "None" is an answer.

SUPER SPIDERMAN

12-26-2008, 08:42 AM

Put me down for none at all. Why no sitcoms? *Points to the first word in the CARTOON Network logo*. There you go.
Notice that I said IF (Not that it will actually happen) Have a sitcom to air on Cartoon Network what show would it be.?:sweat:

Blackstar

12-26-2008, 08:47 AM

Notice that I said IF (Not that it will actually happen) Have a sitcom to air on Cartoon Network what show would it be.?:sweat:

By the responses that have been noted so far, it seems evident that no one wants to see live action sitcoms airing on Cartoon Network, so I have to ask, what's the point of this point of topic? Sorry, but I see this thread going nowhere, and fast too.

SUPER SPIDERMAN

12-26-2008, 08:55 AM

Only a few have posted. I 'm sure my topic will get there.:)

DarthGonzo

12-26-2008, 09:01 AM

Go ahead and go through the archives here. Take a look at all the drama "live action on Cartoon Network" topics cause. See just how many people hate the idea.

Then you'll see why no one here is giving you the answers you want.

Mini Garbonzo

12-26-2008, 09:06 AM

I must agree, what's the point of a topic if everyone has the same answer, Live Action and CN fans hardly get along, and that's probably going to stay that way for a while.

But to answer the question, no, I would not like any sitcoms to air on CN.

Racattack!Force

12-26-2008, 10:51 AM

None, unless animated, like everyone else said. This thread is kinda getting nowhere fast. :sweat:

SUPER SPIDERMAN

12-26-2008, 11:05 AM

Okay alright, Any animated sitcom.:sweat:

Racattack!Force

12-26-2008, 11:07 AM

Okay alright, Any animated sitcom.:sweat:
The Simpsons would have to be my first choice.

Dr.Pepper

12-26-2008, 12:01 PM

Simpsons, hands down. I don't want anything live-action.

.bg

12-26-2008, 12:15 PM

Mama's Family.

Hurfdadurf.

DarthGonzo

12-26-2008, 12:17 PM

Wait...the thread starter was just banned??

I guess we can close this thread then, huh?

Sketch

12-27-2008, 07:33 AM

But first... I'd very much like to see The Flintstones on CN again in a daily slot.

Ducktales Fan

12-27-2008, 04:50 PM

soundmonkey44

12-27-2008, 04:56 PM

I liked that animated Bill Cosby one that used to be on Nick I wouldn't mind seening it on CN!:D :p

Ducktales Fan

12-27-2008, 04:58 PM

Nick-at-Nite is all about family sitcoms. They are trying to appeal to younger adults that have children.

TV Land's main focus in on the 40-54 demographic. However, they too are trying to appeal to the younger adults (those under 40). That is why you seeing all of the older shows going out the window left and right and the newer shows such as Just Shoot Me, Scrubs, CSI, 3rd Rock From the Sun, Mad About You, Murphy Brown, The Cosby Show joining that network.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Cartoon Network/Adult Swim's focus ALSO on the younger crowd too?

That's what Nick at Night and TVLand are for.

Blackstar

12-27-2008, 07:20 PM

The Lucy Show (1962-1968, 156 episodes) starring Lucille Ball, Gale Gordon, and Vivian Vance.

The way I see it ... if Cartoon Network can take a portion of their schedule to appeal to young adults (i.e. Adult Swim), then I don't see why they can't do the same for the older crowd or for those who like the older shows.

Turner could conceivably create a 3rd channel solely devoted to showing sitcom reruns, but as I see it, Turner would have neither the need nor the desire to, since there are already channels like TV Land and TBS which are devoted to showing classic sitcoms 24/7. In any case, there'd be no reason whatsoever for Cartoon Network to become another TV Land.

Ducktales Fan

12-27-2008, 11:02 PM

1. I'm talking about cartoon network showing older shows in general not just sitcoms.

2. TBS doesn't show classic sitcoms. That network just airs sitcoms from the 90s and of recent. No other decades get represented.

3. How do you percieve TV Land? Please do share.

Turner could conceivably create a 3rd channel solely devoted to showing sitcom reruns, but as I see it, Turner would have neither the need nor the desire to, since there are already channels like TV Land and TBS which are devoted to showing classic sitcoms 24/7. In any case, there'd be no reason whatsoever for Cartoon Network to become another TV Land.

Blackstar

12-28-2008, 09:52 AM

I'm talking about cartoon network showing older shows in general not just sitcoms.

So this is another "I wish that Cartoon Network would bring back their older shows" statement, eh? Even though Boomerang exists now, it's not available in many areas because it's ad free, so I see nothing wrong with CN devoting a few hours a day for classic animation and shows about classic animation, such as Toon Heads, but I disagree 100% about the sitcoms. There is no reason whatsoever for CARTOON Network to show them. All that CN should be concerned with is animation, as the channel's name implies. Why is it the responsibility of the "Best place for cartoons" to appeal to the nostalgia crowd? I don't understand that logic at all. The channel's name is CARTOON Network, not Nostalgia Network or Anything Network. Why are people looking to a 24 hour cartoon channel to show sitcoms? It makes no sense.

This is really a pointless discussion. It's a silly, spammish topic that was created (most likely as a goof) by a member who isn't even here anymore. I'm surprised that this thread has actually gone on for more than 1 page without being closed.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 03:14 PM

There's already a number of networks dedicated to animation though.

All that CN should be concerned with is animation, as the channel's name implies.

If that is the case, then why are they airing the old Tom and Jerry series? And why have a marathon of Looney Tunes on New Year's Day?
Why is it the responsibility of the "Best place for cartoons" to appeal to the nostalgia crowd?

They have aired non-animated movies ... obviously, this network isn't just about cartoons. If they can have non-animated movies, then why not have other diverse programming? It shouldn't be a one-way street. :-D
The channel's name is CARTOON Network, not Nostalgia Network or Anything Network. Why are people looking to a 24 hour cartoon channel to show sitcoms? It makes no sense.

chdr

12-28-2008, 03:31 PM

They currently have Tom and Jerry on the schedule. That's nostalgia. It's also animation, first and foremost. If someone wants to watch nostalgic sitcoms, then they'll watch TV Land.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 03:36 PM

No, they would watch any network that offers nostalgic shows not just just TV Land. And Tom and Jerry is clearly a nostalgic program. And Tom and Jerry airs on Cartoon Network.

And for your information, TV Land is NOT just nostalgia. That network offers diverse programming IN ADDITION to nostalgic programming like movies, original series, reality programs, and shows from recent decades.

It's also animation, first and foremost. If someone wants to watch nostalgic sitcoms, then they'll watch TV Land.

Draft

12-28-2008, 03:40 PM

why do we have so many hypothetical topics?

and ya i'd prefer no sitcom on cn

chdr

12-28-2008, 03:43 PM

No, they would watch any network that offers nostalgic shows not just just TV Land. And Tom and Jerry is clearly a nostalgic program. And Tom and Jerry airs on Cartoon Network.

And for your information, TV Land is NOT just nostalgia. That network offers diverse programming IN ADDITION to nostagia programming like movies, original series, reality programs, and shows from recent decades.
By that logic, Chowder is a show about food. CN should also air other shows about food like Emeril Live. And TV Land should be just about nostalgia.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 03:50 PM

Well, TV Land has changed. That network is trying to appeal to more than one demographic and it has no plans to ever revert back to an all-nostalgia channel.

And TV Land should be just about nostalgia.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 04:05 PM

If someone wants to watch movies, then they'll watch a movie network like Starz and Cinemax. Just using your logic here.
It's also animation, first and foremost. If someone wants to watch nostalgic sitcoms, then they'll watch TV Land.

Now, this is quite interesting. You support non-animated movies on a network that is "supposedly" about cartoons but not nostalgic programs? Hmmm.
I like the selection and applaud how they play TV-14 movies, but they really need more variety.

chdr

12-28-2008, 04:17 PM

Now, this is quite interesting. You support non-animated movies on a network that is "supposedly" about cartoons but not nostalgic programs? Hmmm.Animated movies on a network for animation.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 04:22 PM

Right ... and that's why they play/have played non-animated movies. ;)

a network for animation.

chdr

12-28-2008, 04:25 PM

Right ... and that's why they play/have played non-animated movies. ;)
Ideally, they shouldn't, but they are. Airing nostalgic sitcoms isn't helping, either.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 04:29 PM

And that doesn't help your case at all. Just sayin'.

And the fact still remains ... Cartoon Network airs NON-ANIMATED PROGRAMMING.

Ideally, they shouldn't, but they are.

Racattack!Force

12-28-2008, 05:06 PM

And the fact still remains ... Cartoon Network airs NON-ANIMATED PROGRAMMING.And the point is!? I don't think there is any point to this argument. Yes, the channel has went off track from its original purpose. But the majority of the programing is still animated or animation-related. Similar to how most of TV Land's programming is mostly oldies/oldie-related. Clearly, while they both feel like they have to air some other things to appeal to a wider demographic, they both don't want to completely go away from their original intentions.

Blackstar

12-28-2008, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Yours Truly http://forums.toonzone.net/images/buttons/buttons_TZ6/viewpost.gif (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=3099794#post3099794)
All that CN should be concerned with is animation, as the channel's name implies.
If that is the case, then why are they airing the old Tom and Jerry series? And why have a marathon of Looney Tunes on New Year's Day?

Que? Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes are animated. That's right up CN's alley. I said that CN's prime concern should be animation. i never said that it had to be new animation, if that is indeed what you're implying.

There's already a number of networks dedicated to animation though.
And...?

They have aired non-animated movies ... obviously, this network isn't just about cartoons.
And that's flawed thinking on their part. Airing a bunch of forgettable live action doesn't improve the network in any way.

If they can have non-animated movies, then why not have other diverse programming? It shouldn't be a one-way street. :-DAgain, we disagree. If Cartoon Network wants to expand it's horizons beyond animation, then they should take the word CARTOON out of it's name.

Honestly, I can't beleive that we're arguing about something this silly. :shrug:

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 05:19 PM

If they can air movies that are non-animated, then they should air other non-animated programming like nostalgic programs. It should be either ALL or nothing.

And the point is!?

Out with the old purpose and in with new purpose. The past is past and let's leave it at that. Let's discuss the present now.

I don't think there is any point to this argument. Yes, the channel has went off track from its original purpose.

So??? Most of the programming doesn't appeal to the older crowd. If I recall right, Adult Swim takes most of the network's evening and late night programming which is designed for younger adults. Where's the block for the older crowd or those who like the older programs?

But the majority of the programing is still animated or animation-related.

That is incorrect. The older programs take up approxiamety 60% of TV Land's programming. That's a little over half which is NOT most. The remaining 40% consists of paid programming, movies, original series, and programs from recent decades.

Similar to how most of TV Land's programming is mostly oldies/oldie-related.

Says who?

Clearly, while they both feel like they have to air some other things to appeal to a wider demographic, they both don't want to completely go away from their original intentions.

Silverstar

12-28-2008, 05:24 PM

then why are they airing the old Tom and Jerry series? And why have a marathon of Looney Tunes on New Year's Day?
Um, because they're cartoons. No offense, but that should be obvious.No, they would watch any network that offers nostalgic shows not just just TV Land. And Tom and Jerry is clearly a nostalgic program. And Tom and Jerry airs on Cartoon Network.Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes aren't nostalgic shows; they're timeless classics which can be enjoyed by all. They're also staples of Cartoon Network and will probably always have a place on CN in some form or another.Right ... and that's why they play/have played non-animated movies. Movies which are part of the Turner library. CN's airing of non-animated films has nothing to do with nostalgia (how could it be when the majority of the movies they air are from the 90's-00's?); it has to do with running 2-hour kids' movies which they own in order to fill the 'dead air' which pops up on the daily schedule, and CN airing old sitcoms would stray even further from the point. "They air live-action movies" isn't a viable reason for CN to start airing sitcoms at all, again, unless we're talking about animated sitcoms. Cartoon Network isn't trying to appeal to an older demographic nor to nostalgia buffs (that's what Boomerang is for); they're trying to appeal to kids and cartoon lovers. Airing Good Times and I Love Lucy repeats would be off the point and counterproductive.

I understand if you're bummed about running out of places to watch old sitcoms, but there's no reason for Cartoon Network to become the place to slake your thirst.

Blackstar

12-28-2008, 05:31 PM

If they can air movies that are non-animated, then they should air other non-animated programming like nostalgic programs. It should be either ALL or nothing.

Agreed. Which is why the live action movies need to go, so that there would be NO live action programming on CN. Like I said before, they're not improving the network in any way. Airing kids' movies for 1 day out of the week is one thing, but if CARTOON Network were to suddenly start running live action sitcoms every day, afternoon or evening like it's TV Land's little brother, then the channel would lose all of it's original purpose, and that wouldn't be a good thing. This may come as a shock, but some fans actually like CN being an all animation channel.

Also, who told you that Cartoon Network wants to appeal to an older crowd? CN's target demographic is KIDS. Always has been, always will be.

Racattack!Force

12-28-2008, 05:34 PM

If they can air movies that are non-animated, then they should air other non-animated programming like nostalgic programs. It should be either ALL or nothing.Why should they? They already have Boomerang for nostalgic programs. Plus, I actually wish it was only animation again.

Out with the old purpose and in with new purpose. The past is past and let's leave it at that. Let's discuss the present now. The new purpose is to become a channel that win tween ratings with mostly animated programing, not to air old sitcoms that old fogies might want to watch.

So??? Most of the programming doesn't appeal to the older crowd. If I recall right, Adult Swim takes most of the network's evening and late night programming which is designed for younger adults. Where's the block for the older crowd or those who like the older programs?...Um, that's the point. They DON'T WANT to appeal to the older crowd. At least not on purpose. :shrug:

That is incorrect. The older programs take up approxiamety 60% of TV Land's programming. That's a little over half which is not MOST. The remaining 40% consists of paid programming, movies, original series, and programs from recent decades.Some of the movies they air are from before the 90s, and their original series are related to old shows/movies/etc.

Says who?
Both channels are behind in the ratings. They want ratings. They broaden their programs to get some.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 05:41 PM

You read my message the wrong way, Blackstar. Please read it again:

My responses/replies are above the quotes NOT below.

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There's already a number of networks dedicated to animation though.

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All that CN should be concerned with is animation, as the channel's name implies.

If that is the case, then why are they airing the old Tom and Jerry series? And why have a marathon of Looney Tunes on New Year's Day?

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Originally Posted by Blackstar http://forums.toonzone.net/images/buttons/buttons_TZ6/viewpost.gif (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=3099794#post3099794)
Why is it the responsibility of the "Best place for cartoons" to appeal to the nostalgia crowd?

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Blackstar

12-28-2008, 05:41 PM

I don't understand why anyone would expect for Cartoon Network to go all nostaliga anyway. CN's executive staff nor it's publicity have never implied that they want to appeal to an older demographic. Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes can be enjoyed by kids and adults equally, and CN's has shown them since day 1. That's proof of nothing.

Like I said before, this entire thread is silly and it's pointless to debate so heavily about something that was never going to happen in the 1st place. This discussion is beginning to degenerate into yet another "Should live action be on Cartoon Network?" discussion, and those never end well.

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 06:59 PM

Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes aren't nostalgic shows; they're timeless classics which can be enjoyed by all.

They're also staples of Cartoon Network and will probably always have a place on CN in some form or another.Movies which are part of the Turner library. CN's airing of non-animated films has nothing to do with nostalgia (how could it be when the majority of the movies they air are from the 90's-00's?); it has to do with running 2-hour kids' movies which they own in order to fill the 'dead air' which pops up on the daily schedule, and CN airing old sitcoms would stray even further from the point. "They air live-action movies" isn't a viable reason for CN to start airing sitcoms at all, again, unless we're talking about animated sitcoms. Cartoon Network isn't trying to appeal to an older demographic nor to nostalgia buffs (that's what Boomerang is for); they're trying to appeal to kids and cartoon lovers. Airing Good Times and I Love Lucy repeats would be off the point and counterproductive.

I understand if you're bummed about running out of places to watch old sitcoms, but there's no reason for Cartoon Network to become the place to slake your thirst.[/quote]

Ducktales Fan

12-28-2008, 07:31 PM

Well, the same can be said for the older programs.
Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes aren't nostalgic shows; they're timeless classics which can be enjoyed by all.

You have completely missed the point. If cartoon network can air non-animated movies, then what should stop them for airing other non-animated programming? That was the point.

CN's airing of non-animated films has nothing to do with nostalgia (how could it be when the majority of the movies they air are from the 90's-00's?);

How so??? Cartoon network airs nostalgic programming already such as the old Tom and Jerry series. How is adding more nostalgic programming such as the older programs to their line-up furthering the point?
And how are they furthering the point if they have more additional non-animated programming? They already have non-animated programming you know.
CN airing old sitcoms would stray even further from the point

That's a matter of opinion.
"They air live-action movies" isn't a viable reason for CN to start airing sitcoms at all, again, unless we're talking about animated sitcoms.

1. And who says that cartoon lovers are just kids? By saying that Cartoon Network is trying to appeal cartoon lovers means that just about everyone can fit under that title including the older demographic.
If the that is case, then what's the problem with adding more programming for the older demographic?

2. Also, not everyone gets Boomerang ... I know I don't. ;-)
Cartoon Network isn't trying to appeal to an older demographic nor to nostalgia buffs (that's what Boomerang is for); they're trying to appeal to kids and cartoon lovers.

Who said anything about I Love Lucy?
Airing Good Times and I Love Lucy repeats would be off the point and counterproductive.

1. That's a matter of opinion.
2. The way I see, if the network is willing to air
movies and focus a portion of the schedule on the younger adults, then I don't see why they can't be willing to air other non-animated programming and do the same for the older crowd as well.
understand if you're bummed about running out of places to watch old sitcoms, but there's no reason for Cartoon Network to become the place to slake your thirst.

peterg14

12-28-2008, 07:38 PM

How so??? Cartoon network airs nostalgic programming already such as the old Tom and Jerry series. How is adding more nostalgic programming such as the older programs to their line-up furthering the point?
And how are they furthering the point if they have more additional non-animated programming? They are have non-animated programming you know.

Because the channel is called "Cartoon Network". They tried live action sitcoms, it failed horribly.

1. That's a matter of opinion.
2. The way I see, if the network is willing to air
movies and focus a portion of the schedule on the younger adults, then I don't see why they can't be willing to air other non-animated programming and do the same for the older crowd as well.

Because the channel isn't aimed for adults, and they have the "older kids" covered with Action Flicks. CN could care less what we think or what we want to watch, they want ratings. And right now, there's no need for more live action clogging CN, especially when you can watch them elsewhere.