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warnerbroman
12-22-2008, 08:06 PM
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With adult swim coming earlier on Saturdays should the air bleach at 9 after Naruto ( hopefully One Piece)

gtadbzman
12-22-2008, 08:34 PM
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With adult swim coming earlier on Saturdays should the air bleach at 9 after Naruto ( hopefully One Piece) I wish CN would put One Piece back on. I doubt Bleach will air at 10pm. They'll leave that for King of the Hill reruns. I would love to all the anime programs air earlier though.

warnerbroman
12-22-2008, 08:39 PM
I wish CN would put One Piece back on. I doubt Bleach will air at 10pm. They'll leave that for King of the Hill reruns. I would love to all the anime programs air earlier though.even on Saturdays? it would be perfect for reruns of bleach to catch the Naruto/action crowd

mkalv
12-22-2008, 08:48 PM
That would be wise, but CN and AS have not been too smart lately...

gtadbzman
12-22-2008, 08:53 PM
That would be wise, but CN and AS have not been too smart lately...At least we're getting Looney Tunes. ;)

gtadbzman
12-22-2008, 08:54 PM
even on Saturdays? it would be perfect for reruns of bleach to catch the Naruto/action crowdI would love to see something like that too but I doubt AS is willing to air Bleach so early.

Yusuke Urameshi
12-22-2008, 09:11 PM
Shonen Saturdays?

Sketch
12-22-2008, 09:43 PM
Weekly Jump complete with excess of advertising!

Yusuke Urameshi
12-22-2008, 09:47 PM
Weekly Jump complete with excess of advertising!


I could live with that.

Jayngfet
12-23-2008, 09:07 PM
At least we're getting Looney Tunes. ;)

We're maybe getting LT's, if it doesn't meet some unknown standard we'll never see it again.

gtadbzman
12-23-2008, 10:35 PM
We're maybe getting LT's, if it doesn't meet some unknown standard we'll never see it again.Ok, at least we're getting Looney Tunes for at least a day.

warnerbroman
12-27-2008, 01:41 PM
so is it a good idea?

Yusuke Urameshi
12-28-2008, 06:42 PM
so is it a good idea?



It's a good idea, but I don't see it happening, Adult swim practically HATES anime, and I don't see them letting up on there new king of the hill 10pm slot anytime soon.

As for Cartoonnetwork, it's possible as well, except I don't see that happening any time soon.

SurgeV1
12-30-2008, 11:06 PM
I'm trying to get why AS doesn't like Anime? What's so wrong about it? The only anime I know they liked were Cowboy BeBop and Fooly Cooly, but they did used to show alot of different anime back in the day.

clipeuh
12-30-2008, 11:27 PM
I'm trying to get why AS doesn't like Anime? What's so wrong about it?

It gets bad ratings. That's all that matters to Williams Street.

SurgeV1
12-30-2008, 11:32 PM
Oh. Figures. Even Bleach got bad ratings? Could've sworn that and Death Note were really popular.

warnerbroman
12-31-2008, 12:24 PM
from what I seen bleach get decent ratings that why I ask this

Yusuke Urameshi
01-01-2009, 11:14 PM
from what I seen bleach get decent ratings that why I ask this


is that why they cut there ending song in half to allow more commercial time?

Racattack!Force
01-02-2009, 09:19 AM
is that why they cut there ending song in half to allow more commercial time?More commercials mean more moolah.

XDogg
01-02-2009, 09:36 AM
It's a good idea, but I don't see it happening, Adult swim practically HATES anime, and I don't see them letting up on there new king of the hill 10pm slot anytime soon.

As for Cartoonnetwork, it's possible as well, except I don't see that happening any time soon.
I don't get why Cartoon Network puts Anime on their Adult block.:shrug:

soundmonkey44
01-02-2009, 10:04 AM
I don't get why Cartoon Network puts Anime on their Adult block.:shrug:


Becuase Most anime is considered to Violent for Kids in the U.S. Given with a little bit of Editing Bleach could Easaly have been on Regular CN just like Naruto..But Most companys now how editing can piss off a hard core anime fan...& since Toonami was Basically "KiddiFied" In its last year of Broadcast it Could'nt air things like Bleach, FMA, Eureka Seven or Code geass (it possibly could have it had still been the old cool toonami though). But im rambling. BOth One Piece and Naruto air/Have aired on Regular CN. & if CN picks Up shippuden It'll Most likely be on CN new You Are Here action Block. As for one piece..It like many Shows CN has Aired before it..Is on an Indefinante Hiatus (They Did the Same thing to Case Closed & Hamtaro, and we all know Neither of those have aired in Years!) But Yea CN has a Good Reason for Giving Most anime to Adult Swim.:D :p :sweat: :evil:

Master Moron
01-02-2009, 08:48 PM
is that why they cut there ending song in half to allow more commercial time?

No, they cut the ending songs because they're too damn long. Some of them are like, two minutes.

I don't get why Cartoon Network puts Anime on their Adult block.:shrug:

I don't get why Cartoon Network puts Tim and Eric on their Adult block. That stuff would probably be much more entertaining to elementary schoolers.

Rolling Cloud
01-02-2009, 08:56 PM
No, they cut the ending songs because they're too damn long. Some of them are like, two minutes.

......

ED's are usually only 1:30.

el blacklobo
01-02-2009, 09:03 PM
I don't get why Cartoon Network puts Tim and Eric on their Adult block. That stuff would probably be much more entertaining to elementary schoolers.That deserves a thumbs up!


http://www.bigskeff4.homecall.co.uk/thumbs%20up.jpg

Yusuke Urameshi
01-02-2009, 10:35 PM
That deserves a thumbs up!


http://www.bigskeff4.homecall.co.uk/thumbs%20up.jpg


http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w83/Seahog_2007/carl-2-athf.jpg

veemonjosh
01-03-2009, 01:20 AM
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Anime Stadium B.O.N.?

bigddan11
01-03-2009, 04:54 AM
......

ED's are usually only 1:30.
Usually, but not always. There are some Bleach endings which are longer than two minutes. As it is, Viz is the company that chose to cut out some of the ending time, unless [adult swim] is doing sped up credits, in which case it is for time reasons. This is also why they cut the next time preview.

Mugsy
01-03-2009, 09:22 AM
I wouldn't mind AS having a Saturday start at 10pm and the anime schedule looking like....

10:00 - FMA
10:30 - InuYasha
11:00 - Naruto
11:30 - One Piece
12:00 - Code Geass
12:30 - Bleach
1:00 - Basilisk
1:30 - Death Note

Followed by the AS comedy stuff....

soundmonkey44
01-09-2009, 09:46 PM
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I don't get why Cartoon Network puts Tim and Eric on their Adult block. That stuff would probably be much more entertaining to elementary schoolers.

Well Said master moron...But then again you must remember theres a decent amount of adults in this Decencatized decade with the maturity of elementry schoolers or under. Another sad but true fact of life...Not to mention I Have a few cousins in elementry school that even say they think a decent amount of AS origonals are just plain stupid...But I guess I should be more worried that their watching Adult swim in the 1st place.....:sweat:

Back on Topic...Im at the point where I don't care weather Naruto:Shippuden & One piece Come on CN/AS DisenyXD, Sci-fi heck it could air on Boomerang for all i care as Long as I can see it on TV!:sweat: :D :p :evil:

Yusuke Urameshi
01-10-2009, 11:47 AM
I think we should all be happy that AS is at least trying to give us anime.

Lets hope anime-saturdays on AS get better ratings, then we can talk better time schedule.

Master Moron
01-10-2009, 05:24 PM
I think we should all be happy that AS is at least trying to give us anime.

Lets hope anime-saturdays on AS get better ratings, then we can talk better time schedule.

Or just hope that the rest of the schedule does worse, so the anime looks better by comparison.

Yusuke Urameshi
01-11-2009, 05:26 PM
Or just hope that the rest of the schedule does worse, so the anime looks better by comparison.


Lol, good thinkin.

Silverstar
01-11-2009, 10:15 PM
It's a good idea, but I don't see it happening, Adult swim practically HATES anime, and I don't see them letting up on there new king of the hill 10pm slot anytime soon.

As for Cartoonnetwork, it's possible as well, except I don't see that happening any time soon.

Ugh.

[adult swim] and Cartoon Network (2 words) do NOT hate anime. The reason that the anime shows are dwindling on the network is because there aren't any major guaranteed moneymaking anime coming down the pike, and the anime shows which they have currently aren't bringing the ratings right now. CN and [as] care about what sells and what puts the butts in the seats. They do not, repeat, do not have a grudge against Japanese animation. A cartoon's country of origin doesn't matter one teeny bit to the Suits at CN/[as].

If a 5-star, guaranteed money-in-the-bank anime show became available for import, you can bet your sweet bippy that Turner/Williams Street would bid for it.

As for this idea, [as] isn't going to carry Naruto or One Piece, as they're considered kids' shows here in the States, and similarly, Bleach is considered to be too "adult", and therefore inappropriate for Cartoon Network.

Rolling Cloud
01-11-2009, 10:27 PM
Ugh.

[adult swim] and Cartoon Network (2 words) do NOT hate anime. The reason that the anime shows are dwindling on the network is because there aren't any major guaranteed moneymaking anime coming down the pike, and the shows which they have currently aren't bringing the ratings right now. [...] that Turner/Williams Strett would bid for it.

Then, why'd they stop promoting the anime all of a sudden? You'd think more promotion would be good for them considering how "ratings-happy" they seem to be.

Silverstar
01-11-2009, 10:31 PM
Then, why'd they stop promoting the anime all of a sudden? You'd think more promotion would be good for them considering how "ratings-happy" they seem to be.

What great anime do they have to promote? All they have right now are reruns and shows which have passed their prime or weren't that great to begin with.

It's all about ratings and money, folks. It's silly to assume that a bunch of corporate bigwigs are harvesting some sort of simmering resentment towards the cartoons from a particular nation. If Turner/Williams Street really hated all things anime, then they wouldn't show any at all. It's business, never personal.

Rolling Cloud
01-11-2009, 10:35 PM
What great anime do they have to promote? All they have right now are reruns and shows which have passed their prime.

-Naruto (&, maybe Shippuden)
-They had One Piece (which promotion would've helped)
-Pokemon

If you're including AS, there's

-Bleach
-Code Geass (currently R2)
-Moribito

So no, they don't have just reruns. Also, what if CN does get PPGZ?

Blackstar
01-11-2009, 10:40 PM
Come on now. Do people honestly believe that network executives are a bunch of evil men with black top hats and handlebar mustaches who have nothing better to do than cancel anime programs just to tick off the fans? That sounds like something that a kid would believe. The only things that network execs care about are money, ratings and shares, and apparently, no anime series is giving them those sweet, sweet ratings that they so desire, and when a show doesn't get ratings, it gets pulled and it doesn't get promoted anymore. That's really all there is to it.

Also, what if CN does get PPGZ?

What if indeed? If CN does acquire PPGZ, then I guess that would prove to the conspiracy theorists once and for all that CN doesn't hate anime, wouldn't it?

D Dubbs
01-11-2009, 10:42 PM
What great anime do they have to promote? All they have right now are reruns and shows which have passed their prime or weren't that great to begin with.

I believe Dekacloud is referring to Fall 2007, when Cartoon Network/[adult swim] ceased promoting their anime hits like Naurto, One Piece and Bleach for no apparent reason.

Generally, I try to stay out of these "Cartoon Network hates anime" debates, since there's no real proof for either side, but I'd say there's definitely something fishy in the sudden shift of their treatment of anime.

warnerbroman
01-11-2009, 10:50 PM
As for this idea, [as] isn't going to carry Naruto or One Piece, as they're considered kids' shows here in the States, and similarly, Bleach is considered to be too "adult", and therefore inappropriate for Cartoon Network.
as far as the average viewer they are one channel and remember they could have aired bleach on toonami the same as inuyasha could have

and it did not stop toonami mentioning venture bros or futurama


I am not saying one show take the shows of the other I an saying to air the together just put the AS disclaimer between bleach and one piece and naruto

as some kids read shouen jump with all three on the same book it could promote both CN and SJ they could use that somehow

Master Moron
01-12-2009, 04:27 PM
As for this idea, [as] isn't going to carry Naruto or One Piece, as they're considered kids' shows here in the States, and similarly, Bleach is considered to be too "adult", and therefore inappropriate for Cartoon Network.

I agree that One Piece wouldn't fit on Adult Swim, but I don't see why Naruto Shippuden wouldn't. It's at least as mature as Bleach, and Adult Swim has previously expressed interest in it.

Come on now. Do people honestly believe that network executives are a bunch of evil men with black top hats and handlebar mustaches who have nothing better to do than cancel anime programs just to tick off the fans? That sounds like something that a kid would believe. The only things that network execs care about are money, ratings and shares, and apparently, no anime series is giving them those sweet, sweet ratings that they so desire, and when a show doesn't get ratings, it gets pulled and it doesn't get promoted anymore. That's really all there is to it.


I don't know why I have to keep explaining this over and over again, but the people who run networks are people, not robots. Their main focus is ratings, yes, but to pretend that they don't have personal preferences is completely ridiculous. There have been many television shows that have been cancelled due to personal preferences rather than ratings, for instance, The Critic and Futurama.

Sketch
01-13-2009, 12:11 AM
You haven't watched enough One Piece if you don't think it's got an equatable amount of content to that of Bleach. All 3 should be on the same block reguardless.

CN really should make a teen block... it'd simplify things greatly.

TheTerror
01-13-2009, 12:25 AM
Come on now. Do people honestly believe that network executives are a bunch of evil men with black top hats and handlebar mustaches who have nothing better to do than cancel anime programs just to tick off the fans? That sounds like something that a kid would believe. The only things that network execs care about are money, ratings and shares, and apparently, no anime series is giving them those sweet, sweet ratings that they so desire, and when a show doesn't get ratings, it gets pulled and it doesn't get promoted anymore. That's really all there is to it.



What if indeed? If CN does acquire PPGZ, then I guess that would prove to the conspiracy theorists once and for all that CN doesn't hate anime, wouldn't it?

I have every reason to believe that CN does not hate anime, but instead chooses not to air anime as much in favor of airing their own material instead, which makes sense because a company usualy pusheir their own product first and foremost. Anime still gets plenty of play on CN people, it is not going anywhere and maybe someday it will have its day in the sun again.

Master Moron
01-13-2009, 12:50 AM
You haven't watched enough One Piece if you don't think it's got an equatable amount of content to that of Bleach. All 3 should be on the same block reguardless.

CN really should make a teen block... it'd simplify things greatly.

It's not an issue of content, it's an issue of the childish humor and the lack of death. While it's true that Bleach and Naruto both have their share of childish humor, it isn't nearly as ever present as the humor in One Piece. Adults will turn on One Piece and think it's just a show full of stupid jokes. And while Bleach and Naruto both have their share of death cheats, neither compares to the number of cheats in One Piece. Adults don't want to watch a show where the bad guys just get really bad boo boos.

I have every reason to believe that CN does not hate anime, but instead chooses not to air anime as much in favor of airing their own material instead, which makes sense because a company usualy pusheir their own product first and foremost. Anime still gets plenty of play on CN people, it is not going anywhere and maybe someday it will have its day in the sun again.

King of the Hill and The PJs aren't their own material.

mumbo
01-13-2009, 12:52 AM
If Bleach belongs in AS, so do Naruto and One Piece. Well, actually I always thought Bleach belonged on Toonami instead with Naruto and One Piece, but that of course isn't an option anymore.

In Japan at least, Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece all have the same demos. There's basically the same amount of blood and "mature themes" if that's what you call it in all three of them.They're the big three Jump titles and they would fit perfectly together.

And since they fit so well together and they're anime CN nor AS will never do it.

Anime still gets plenty of play on CN people, it is not going anywhere and maybe someday it will have its day in the sun again.
No, it doesn't.

Adults don't want to watch a show where the bad guys just get really bad boo boos.
There's lots of blood though, surely they like seeing that.

I mean there's also overt religious themes in Skypiea, the emotional deaths in the flashbacks, civilians get killed, etc. in the series.