C&C - Morel Orel - "Honor" [12/18]

[Mugen]

Well, the day has finally arrived. The final episode of Morel Orel will air tonight at 12:15 AM Eastern. What will happen in this episode? Will there be a happy ending/closure? Or will it be the most depressing episode of an AS original ever(like End of Evangelion-type ending)? Tune in to find out.

[Beat]

Orel turning Moralton into LCL fluid would be something else, but I doubt it.

[Vyse]

What I hope: Closure. A definitive end. An episode that doesn't turn the past 12 episodes, which include in my opinion the best episodes Adult Swim has ever aired, into crap. Greatness.

What I fear, which also turns out to be what I expect: A degree of disappointment, ranging from "Why is this show canceled? I need moar episodes!" to "Wow, this sucks!" The latter extreme is the opposite of what I hope.

[ignignokt34]

I wonder if it's going to take place after the events of "God's Image" because that's the episode they showed before it. But then again, it's supposed to be a Christmas episode. I really don't know what to expect besides greatness and depressingness.

[Moto Pete]

when does this come online>

[chdr]

Today, I think.

[Vyse]

Honor is online right now. (http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a2505951e3ac6db011e46cac5180149) You can also check out the IVC for it by clicking here. (http://www.adultswim.com/shows/moralorel/extras/ivc/ep43/)

[Scythemantis]

Just when I feared there wasn't enough time left to give the series any closure, they took an obvious, simple, and still completely perfect route with that very last scene. Maybe it was a predictable ending, but it was really sweet.

[chdr]

I laughed, I cried. I'm glad that Orel (and possibly Stopframe) got a happy ending here, but I wish Clay found happiness as well. This feels like it should have been a double-length episode so it could bring more closure to the show, but otherwise a great ending to a fantastic show.

Wish you luck with FrankensTime, Dino.

[Charlie]

That last bit with Clay confessing his feelings to Daniele while trying to cover them up was hilarious and sweet and incredibly sad all at the same time. I loved it, but I do wish it was longer. It really felt like there was so much put onto this episode that it couldn't really finish it all in 12 minutes.

[NelStone]

Really made me wish we had more, but it was a good final episode. Didn't leave me angry or yelling "WTF?", so as a person who only started watching during this season, I'm good.

EDIT: Also loved the part where every face Stopframe looked at turned into Clay's, including even Clay's own campaign posters, lol

[Lightning Tiger]

"This is rape!, you raped my son!, with kindness, in order to get to me, and it worked!", i loved that line.

Loved the ending too, so Orel lived happily ever after, still, i wished i knew what happened to everyone else.

[Gamaoi]

d'awwwwwww

[Fool's Gil]

I figured the episode would show Orel as an adult, but I thought for the whole episode. I also thought it was called "Honor" because Orel would be honoring his father-at his funeral.

Pretty good closure for the series all in all.

[Kitschensyngk]

"You RAPED my SON...with NICENESS!!"








R.I.P.
Moral Orel
[2005-2008]

In the name of Orel, Clay, and Mr. Stamatopulous, amen.

[Kuroba]

Lovely ending. A perfect finale to an unusually dark season, I'd say. It's great that Orel eventually will go on to be a better person than his father and live the life he deserved. I think a quiet, nice ending like that is more meaningful than having someone die or having an utterly sad ending like I expected.
I still wish we had gotten more, though.

[Senira]

I think the ending was great given the timeframe they had to work with. Considering what a jerk Clay has been throughout the series, I don't feel bad that he didn't get his Happily Ever After like the other residents of Moralton. Sure there are still some loose ends-- for example, what was up the Librarian's plot to raze the town?-- but there was just enough resolution to be satisfying.

[Vyse]

Did anyone catch the black and white card bump by Dino before the "44 Nights" introduction?

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Yeah I did. Kind of more depressing then the episode actually even if he was just talking about how drunk he was half the time when writing it.

So In the end there wasn't any big claustrophic meltdown of Moralton. No destruction of every character we've come to know over the last 40 something episodes. No Oral managing to get out of the city in time before all of the greed and desperation and sadness got to him. It might of if the show went on but I think if they had to end it they ended it on a good note: Oral actually having to learn that the good thing about his father is that in the end he was able to pop out Oral who did turn out to be a fine upstanding young man who raised his own loving family. Even if Oral himself came from a bad home he did do well enough to get with the girl of his dream, and actually pass sometthing down worthwhile (and that includes more then just his video footage) which makes for a feelgood ending. I also like how the focus was on Coach Stopframe, the only character not to really get a focus at all in this third season of the supporting cast. Getting to see him actually try and act fatherly and caring to Oral and turn down Clay was good (especially Clay's despreate begging wit the bear and the speech at the end about loving Stopframe... uh Oral so much and not wanting to be without him... Oral). I also like the cameos of Stephanine, and Revend Putty actually trying to give Oral some good advice and point out Coach Stopframe's feelings on Oral's dad. It's also kind of cool how in the beginning and end we focus on the christmas theme of family togetherness and learn that nothing really worked out for Oral's main family (who is still going to be as dysfucntional as it was) but will work out for Oral later in life. So yeah defintley a solid ending for this show. I'd like to see some speciasl that fill in the gap more (and also give out some info on how the rest of the town will end up) but still good stuff.

[Zach Logan]

This was a beautiful episode to end the series on, and I'm glad it ended as it did, and I'm glad they continued to live up to my expectations. Though the comedy has certainly not been in it, Moral Orel became a truly beautiful series. I'll buy the "Complete Series" or whatever DVDs that may be coming out when they do.

[Beat]

Moral Orel has said more in its truncated season than every other Adult Swim show aired this year (with the possible exception of Death Note). It is a pure shame that other shows go on this block while Orel faced the axe.

[Speedy Boris]

That father/son hunting trip really changed everything, and for the better (in Orel's case). Had Orel not learned what a jerk his father was, he wouldn't have gotten away from his influence and may have subliminally followed in his footsteps later in life.

Good finale, given the circumstances, though in retrospect I think that focusing on other townspeople during this season took too much focus away from this story arc. I wouldn't have minded the minor character spotlights if they had been on their own instead of delaying the post hunt development.

Still, I have to commend Moral Orel for a huge improvement from season 1 to 2. It started out as a fairly amusing but pretty repetitive satire of Davey & Goliath, but by gradually focusing on making these characters REAL instead of walking parodies, it became a much stronger show for it. I may not have laughed very much during this final season, but I excitedly tuned in each week to see the continuing drama of this messed up town.

[J!!!]

I liked this episode not as dark as usual and had a super happy ending.

[dawnyoshi]

Moral Orel has said more in its truncated season than every other Adult Swim show aired this year (with the possible exception of Death Note). It is a pure shame that other shows go on this block while Orel faced the axe.

Quoted for truth.

I was a little disappointed that this series had to be rushed into the ending we saw. Nonetheless, it still worked. Very touching ending in a dark and dreary subject matter of a child seeing the truth of his scumbag father, where the child one-up's his dad by being the loving father when he becomes older.

[All Star Blitz]

Why does everyone call this "Morel Orel"? It's not about a mushroom.

[Gamaoi]

Well it's the Orel part that makes it confusing. Like, the show isn't called Moral ORAL for a reason.

[warnerbroman]

Well it's the Orel part that makes it confusing. Like, the show isn't called Moral ORAL for a reason.so true

so wait this episode is in direct continuity with the pilot

[chdr]

so true

so wait this episode is in direct continuity with the pilot

Essentially, the pilot happened a year ago from "Honor" and that the entire series took place mostly in the spring after "Best Christmas Ever".

[Gamaoi]

nah cuz remember, the Best Christmas Ever wasn't the pilot, it was supposed to be the Season 1 finale, which is why Season 2 picks up where it left off.

[chdr]

According to the ICVP, Dino didn't care much about continuity during the first season, so those episodes could have happened anywhere before Nature.

[Vyse]

I saw it on Thursday night (and saw the IVC for it shortly thereafter), and I liked it. I was expecting the end of Moralton, but this ending was better for the series. There was closure, we got a Stopframe-specific episode, and it tied in nicely with the rest of the series. Scott Adsit did a good job as Clay, just like he has done for the rest of the season, and I really enjoyed Clay "coming out" of the closet, so to speak, with his "I love you....(high-pitch) Orel" speech. Some of the minor characters also gained closure with Bendy/Joe and Rev. Putty/Stephanie, each reunited/united parent/child spending Christmas together. Plus, we learned why Stopframe loved Clay and Orel didn't bring about the end of Moralton, instead becoming a well-adjusted adult with his childhood sweetheart becoming his wife and the mother of his two kids. Plus, both Shapey and Block become well-adjusted adults (hopefully). In the end, it's how a season (let alone a series) should end if it wants to become the best thing Adult Swim has ever aired. Great and satisfying end. :) Submit these eps for an Emmy.

As for the continuity issues, it's safe to assume that Season 1 took place before Best Christmas Ever, which is the both the Sason 1 Premiere (first episode aired) and the Season 1 Finale (it was intended to be aired last), and that all of Season 2 took place after BCE.

[Beat]

You know, I thought of something.

It seemed implied throughout the series that the final step to Orel's enlightenment would be his rejection of faith, but the future Orel seems to still be Christian judging by the cross in his living room, and he's better for it. Did that surprise anyone?

[peterg14]

You know, I thought of something.

It seemed implied throughout the series that the final step to Orel's enlightenment would be his rejection of faith, but the future Orel seems to still be Christian judging by the cross in his living room, and he's better for it. Did that surprise anyone?

No, because I think Dino was only having some fun with Christian messages. It was more about how the regular family unit, a mom, dad, and kids, isn't the only way for people to live and grow up. Like Clay, Joe, and even Orel himself, they lived in "regular" family units, but they weren't actually truly happy. Now he's and his future family are happy by choice, not by force.

[Deadman]

it was a good finale. its going to be sad to see morel oral end. such a great show.

[Speedy Boris]

You know, I thought of something.

It seemed implied throughout the series that the final step to Orel's enlightenment would be his rejection of faith, but the future Orel seems to still be Christian judging by the cross in his living room, and he's better for it. Did that surprise anyone? I interpeted it that Orel realized the church may have bad eggs but that he doesn't have to be one of them, even while still remaining a Christian. That's a good message, actually.

[420shortee]

Actually it was the best episode ever, great ending, merry x-mas, goodnight y'all!

[Mugsy]

R.I.P MoRal Orel...you will be missed and AS will never be the same without you....