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rainstorm46
12-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Does anyone know what show this was a segement in. I wish boomerang played it more often.

Doz Hewson
12-11-2008, 01:58 AM
Hokey Wolf was a segment of The Huckleberry Hound Show, beginning 9/1960. He replaced Yogi Bear, who'd on 1/1961 have his own series.

For More on Wolf:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokey_Wolf

rainstorm46
12-11-2008, 05:40 PM
Hokey Wolf was a segment of The Huckleberry Hound Show, beginning 9/1960. He replaced Yogi Bear, who'd on 1/1961 have his own series.

For More on Wolf:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokey_Wolf

Thank you for that information

Jayd
03-24-2009, 03:01 AM
Hokey was similar to Yogi. Both of them had dimunitive sidekicks of the same animal.

Silverstar
03-24-2009, 08:30 AM
Hokey was similar to Yogi. Both of them had dimunitive sidekicks of the same animal.

Many of Hanna-Barbera's 'funny animal' characters can, in some form or another, be traced back to one (or more) of H-B's Big Three: Yogi Bear, Huck Hound or Quick Draw McGraw. Some examples:


Hokey Wolf=Yogi and Boo Boo as con artist wolves
Snagglepuss=hammy actor version of Huckleberry Hound
Touche Turtle=Quick Draw and Baba Louie as musketeers
Breezley & Sneezley=Yogi and Boo Boo in the Arctic
Wally Gator=Yogi as a gator in a zoo
Squiddly Diddley=Yogi as a squid in an aquarium
Magilla Gorilla=Yogi as a gorilla in a pet shop with traces of Huck's genial naivete
Richochet Rabbit=size-swapped versions of Quick Draw and Baba LouieIt's a known fact that H-B liked to adhere to formulas; whatever looked like a successful formula for them was re-used time and again, with a few cosmetic differences painted over top for a point of variety.

Steve Carras
03-24-2009, 11:14 PM
Many of Hanna-Barbera's 'funny animal' characters can, in some form or another, be traced back to one (or more) of H-B's Big Three: Yogi Bear, Huck Hound or Quick Draw McGraw. Some examples:

Hokey Wolf=Yogi and Boo Boo as con artist wolves
With one voice difference in the adult prototype-Ed Norton swapped for Phil Silvers, who inspired Top Cat!
Snagglepuss=hammy actor version of Huckleberry Hound
Snagglepuss was one of many HB solo versions and wild, in this case, of Yogi with Bert Lahr's cowardly lion voice. So much so in fact, that Mr.Cowardly Lion [at the time selling Frito Lay chips while Mr.Snaggles[:)] was canvassing for Kellogs Cocoa Kripsies:cool] threated a suit again Hanna-Barbera and that first sponsor of their, Kellogs, so Daws Butler, who did Sangs and so many others for HB, WB,etc. got screen credit.."SNAGGLEPUSS VOICE IS PERFVORMED BY DAWS BUTLER!" :cool: again
Touche Turtle=Quick Draw and Baba Louie as musketeers
Again, a personality and size swap. Think more "Ruff and Reddy", just to name HB examples.

Breezley & Sneezley=Yogi and Boo Boo in the Arctic

This one's on the mark.The only clone to have the precisely same set up.

Wally Gator=Yogi as a gator in a zoo
Again, without sidekick. "Help its the Hair Bear Bunch" from HB and "Tennesse Tuxedo and his Tales" from Leonard-TTV and Gamma Prods. [with penguin] similiar, and Hair Bear with three, not two, and both that and "Tux.." with two Zoo curators..
Squiddly Diddley=Yogi as a squid in an aquarium
Again with no sidekick but same. Unlike Daws "Art Carney" inpsired [at 1st] Yogi, Paul Frees's voice for Squddley Diddley had no ancestors in celebs!

Magilla Gorilla=Yogi as a gorilla in a pet shop with traces of Huck's genial naivete
Swap little male buddy for recurring little girl, and make the "boss" [Mr.Peebles] small.

Richochet Rabbit=size-swapped versions of Quick Draw and Baba Louie
And again like Touche, and Dum Dum, the leader is also the smarter. See Jay Ward and TVSpots's "Crusader Rabbit",HB's own first, "Ruff and Reddy", and Ward's "Rocky and Bullwinkle" for comparision in small smarter leader with larger goofy aide. Can be thought of a "lite" "Of Mice and Men"'s "George and Lenny" with different character voices in each case. A whole DIFFERENT thread MIGHT cover how Reddy is a typical lrager doofus type but has Huckleberry's later persona, and from MGM, Lantz, and [in "Waggily Tale" from 1958] WB as well, and the same Southern Daws Butler lazy voice!Others:
"Snooper and Blabber" and "Augie Doggy & Doggie Daddy"-"Quick Draw and Baba Looey's" OWN supporting segments--had the same Quick Draw and Baba Looey size and status to match, Snooper and Quick Draw were the crimefighters while Doggie Daddy and son were in format a la cartoon sitcom--and Snooper and Doggie Daddy were smart, in the first case smarter than eager beaver Blab, but matched by Augie, while Quick Draw was, like I insuinated, regarding some of your other comments,S'star, the larger and leader of his duo, but Baba Looey had the brains neccesary..he humoursly would say "Quick Draw's brain has an empty lot.." voice Daws Butler defended him as Latino "stereotypes" go, as being smarter...


"Pixie and Dixie" based on their own Tom and Jerry..but that was MGM..
"Fred Flintston" and Barney Rubble were again kind of lie,m Yogi and Boo Boo AND the Honeymooners [a point that authors Jim Korkis and John Cawley made in the early 1990s, "Cartoon Superstars", their rare book, which excludes quite a few classics like "Goofy" and "Sylvester and Tweey", and the jetspsn,etc. but is still a good find.

Back to the similiarites and just keeping with the short animal characters series, and for me thru the early 60s, Lippy and Hardy somewhat like Yogi and Boo Boo in the wild with no "ranger" type, and always good guys, ..and theatrical market's "Loopy DeLoop", but that was based on Warner Bros.'s "Pepe LePew" and Paramount's "Casper".."he's repulsive! Scary"[fill in fave rave negative adjective here] but "wait, no he's not"..that formula. "Ferdinand the bull" and "Reluctant Dragon" - both Disney fiklms and the latter both Disney and 1970 Rankin Bass {TV] production, same thing. [Ugly duckling types who are not considered dangerous naturally, who are just innocent, like Dumbo, need not be counted!]

Too many Pixie and Dixie and Mr.Jinks/Tom and Jerry variations,.Peter Potamus was a time travleing, sidekick supplemented-Huck, with the Daws Butler/Joe E.Brown ["Some like it HOT"] time traveler..

Debbie
03-25-2009, 12:29 AM
The "Hokey Wolf" voice seems to pre-date Hokey himself, as it was first used for a fox in Cock-a-Doodle Huck and later a wolf in Sheep-Shape Sheepherder, two of the first season Huckleberry Hound cartoons (1958-59).

Fibber Fox
03-26-2009, 09:52 AM
The "Hokey Wolf" voice seems to pre-date Hokey himself, as it was first used for a fox in Cock-a-Doodle Huck and later a wolf in Sheep-Shape Sheepherder, two of the first season Huckleberry Hound cartoons (1958-59).

Daws used his Silvers-inspired voice quite often; Oinks and Boinks with Yogi is a good example. It seems the Fractured Fairy Tales are littered with it. Someone can check Keith Scott's book The Moose That Roared but it mentions Jay Ward loved certain voices and wanted them often and I think this was one of them.

F. Fox
http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

Eric Brown
04-13-2009, 10:22 PM
Ya know, concerning Snagglepuss. When Snagglepuss was placed as a segment of the original Yogi Bear Show, I was actually somewhat disappointed in the make over the character was given as compared to his origin in the Quick Draw McGraw cartoons. The original Snagglepuss (or "Snaggletooth" as once named) was a much more lively and an ego-centric "smart-ass" type character that gave him a seperate charm as opposed to his new pink design. The old "Snag" was more of an action character and was more than a match for Quick Draw and even Baba Loey.
I thought the old character could have been retained (perhaps even revived today) and could have been played off of against society in general.

Enough said. THANX

Fibber Fox
04-13-2009, 11:09 PM
Ya know, concerning Snagglepuss. <snip>
I thought the old character could have been retained (perhaps even revived today) and could have been played off of against society in general.

Such is what happens when you turn an antagonist into a protagonist in a children's cartoon. They're softened. Ask Mickey Mouse. Or the 1960s version of Woody Woodpecker.

On the other hand, protagonists in cartoons not entirely aimed at kids .. think of Bugs, Daffy, any Avery cartoon .. were far more aggressive characters.

I like both Snagglepusses, to be honest. The more famous one spouts those great silly lines from Mike Maltese; he and the Major act like an old vaudeville team. The other one's just enough of a wit and smart ass to have a bit of colour and not be annoying.

F. Fox
http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

Still HowardFein
04-16-2009, 01:54 PM
I like both Snagglepusses, to be honest. The more famous one spouts those great silly lines from Mike Maltese; he and the Major act like an old vaudeville team.

When Snagglepuss became a series star, his thespian tendencies were a main facet of his character. So many episodes had him doing quick disguise jobs to fool a would-be predator. This was amusing enough, but to put a further edge in the proceedings, it becomes pretty obvious that Snag's not as great of an actor as he tries to convince us he is.

Daws Butler gives the perfect delivery to Maltese's sharp dialogue. "Forsooth! FIVEsooth, even!" "Put 'em up! Put 'em up! Marquis of Queensborough Bridge rules, even-"

As with Butler's Silvers-esque rendition of Hokey, his Bert Lahr imitation was not limited to Snagglepuss. One HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS episode featured a cowardly guest character who spoke with the same voice. This was a more overt nod to Bert Lahr, on whom Snag was based.

'Muddsy', the title character of THE FUNKY PHANTOM made a decade later, had identical voice and personality. (Interestingly, PHANTOM was the last cartoon to credit Maltese as a writer.)

Brutus, the ROMAN HOLIDAYs' house pet, was a somewhat more realistically-designed lion who only spoke in fully-articulated 'lion speak', i.e. exact phoenitcs of stereotypical lion sounds: "Roar, roar". "Ga-rowl!"

But Butler's 'Hokey' voice was far more durable, coming out of various guest characters on episodes of THE FLINTSTONES, THE JETSONS, Yippee, Yappee & Yahooey, Richochet Rabbit, and all three segments of GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE.

Jayd
05-09-2009, 01:34 AM
I think Snag was the Funky Phantom in a previous life. He also ended many sentences with the word "even."

rainstorm46
05-10-2009, 01:13 AM
Hokey was similar to Yogi. Both of them had dimunitive sidekicks of the same animal.

They are both similiar. I think Hokey Wolf is just as good a show as Yogi bear yet it hardly ever airs on Boomerang. Yogi bear though I still see sometimes on boomerang.

Mark The Shark
05-10-2009, 02:09 PM
Hokey Wolf was a segment of The Huckleberry Hound Show, beginning 9/1960. He replaced Yogi Bear, who'd on 1/1961 have his own series.

For More on Wolf:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokey_Wolf

I was always under the impression that the switch from Yogi to Hokey happened in January 1961 at the time the Yogi Bear show premiered -- but I could be wrong. Contemporary TV Guide descriptions would answer that question.

Fibber Fox
05-10-2009, 06:30 PM
I was always under the impression that the switch from Yogi to Hokey happened in January 1961 at the time the Yogi Bear show premiered -- but I could be wrong. Contemporary TV Guide descriptions would answer that question.

Good luck finding any, Mark. But, for now, here's a New York Times story dated Jan. 29, 1961 which reads, in part:

STARDOM: Although no one has issued a proclamation, this could be Yogi Bear Week. Yogi, who has been a featured player on the "Huckleberry Hound" animated cartoon series for two years, gets his own television show starting tomorrow.

The Times thought he was still on Huck's show, and so do some TV listings I've read from WGN Chicago, such as the one dated Oct. 29, 1960..

Sgt. Huckleberry Hound of the Foreign Legion sets out single handed to bring in Powerful Pierre in " Legion Bound Hound." Yogi Bear believes that a bandit, disguised as a bear, is a fellow bear in a jam and tries to help in " Bare Face Bear." Pixie and Dixie help a zoo lion in "King Size Poodle."

F. Fox
http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

Mark The Shark
05-11-2009, 07:52 PM
One other thing -- a friend actually did research old listings on microfilm for some of these shows many years ago -- I used to have copies of them, but have no idea where those would be now. Anyway, apparently for the first couple of weeks when the Yogi Bear show premiered, the other two cartoons were (temporarily) Snooper & Blabber and Augie Doggie & Doggie Daddy from the Quick Draw McGraw show. Then it switched to Snag and Yakky. Not sure why -- maybe all the segments weren't finished in time.

Zen Man
05-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Of all of H-B's funny animal cartoons post Yogi/Huck/Quickdraw, which do you consider the best?

Fibber Fox
05-11-2009, 10:52 PM
Of all of H-B's funny animal cartoons post Yogi/Huck/Quickdraw, which do you consider the best?

I enjoy Quick Draw the most. Yogi may have had more personality traits, but Quick Draw was fun because he was both stupid and goofy.

The series was freshened with El Kabong, which was something Mike Maltese really wanted to write. Snuffles had one routine but he never got tiresome because he wisely wasn't used in every cartoon. The Capitol Library (and associated libraries) had enough western mood music to fit the cartoons.

Westerns are so full of obvious clichés, they're perfect for parodies.

F. Fox
http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

Fibber Fox
05-11-2009, 11:37 PM
One other thing -- a friend actually did research old listings on microfilm for some of these shows many years ago -- I used to have copies of them, but have no idea where those would be now. Anyway, apparently for the first couple of weeks when the Yogi Bear show premiered, the other two cartoons were (temporarily) Snooper & Blabber and Augie Doggie & Doggie Daddy from the Quick Draw McGraw show. Then it switched to Snag and Yakky. Not sure why -- maybe all the segments weren't finished in time.

Mark, I'll certainly take your word for it. I'm just reading Fred Danzig's column in UPI published Jan. 31, 1961.

As the host for his half-hour program, Yogi gracefully participates in one of the three cartoon stories that comprise each show. He has surrounded himself with a vibrant, engaging cast that includes Snagglepuss, Augie Doggie, Boo-Boo the Little Bear and Major Minor.
But there's this really odd line which shows Danzig was a little confused:

Parents who want to watch "The Yogi Bear Show" with their children are warned, however, that the youngsters may interrupt their concentration to ask, "What does Yogi mean by, "exit-stage right" or "What does he mean by "Loquacious" or "What's a "worthy adversary."

Certainly Yogi referred to the ranger as "a worthy adversary" (in the one where Smith inherits a castle and leaves Jellystone), but I think Danzig mangled a news release or something with the reference to "Exit, stage right."

The NEA column of the same date has this paragraph:

...this will introduce new characters, so pretty soon you'll be meeting such actors as Hokey Wolf and Dingaling (two wolves), Snagglepuss (a mountain lion) and Yakky Doodle (a duck).

"Pretty soon" could mean anything. I found one station debuted the show on a Monday, two others were on a Wednesday (these stories were published on a Monday).

Btw, there was a show-biz reference in a Yogi cartoon (second season) that even I didn't get. What's a "24 sheet"?

F. Fox
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Fibber Fox
05-12-2009, 02:50 AM
apparently for the first couple of weeks when the Yogi Bear show premiered, the other two cartoons were (temporarily) Snooper & Blabber and Augie Doggie & Doggie Daddy from the Quick Draw McGraw show. Then it switched to Snag and Yakky. Not sure why -- maybe all the segments weren't finished in time.

Mark, FWIW, the first 13 Yogis use the old Capitol, etc. library then switch to the Curtin cues (and a different sub-title card at the opening), while the Yakky and Snagglepuss cartoons never used the stock music.

F. Fox

Zen Man
05-12-2009, 08:02 AM
Mark, FWIW, the first 13 Yogis use the old Capitol, etc. library then switch to the Curtin cues (and a different sub-title card at the opening), while the Yakky and Snagglepuss cartoons never used the stock music.

F. Fox


Hey Fibber I was surfin' the net about some old H-B shows, and came across an old show entitled, Yogi Bear and his Friends, which aired in the late 60's. The description said it consisted of reruns of Yogi, Huck, Pixie & Dixie, Quickdraw and a few others packaged together. I had never heard of the show and was wondering if you did?

Jayd
05-12-2009, 01:39 PM
Hey Fibber I was surfin' the net about some old H-B shows, and came across an old show entitled, Yogi Bear and his Friends, which aired in the late 60's. The description said it consisted of reruns of Yogi, Huck, Pixie & Dixie, Quickdraw and a few others packaged together. I had never heard of the show and was wondering if you did?

I don't think it was a show per se. I remember seeing these cartoons in weekday cartoon blocks back in the 70s which is more or less the same thing.

Fibber Fox
05-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Hey Fibber I was surfin' the net about some old H-B shows, and came across an old show entitled, Yogi Bear and his Friends, which aired in the late 60's. The description said it consisted of reruns of Yogi, Huck, Pixie & Dixie, Quickdraw and a few others packaged together. I had never heard of the show and was wondering if you did?

Was it a syndicated half-hour? It never ran locally as far as I know. But one of the stations used to take the individual cartoons and run them. I can't remember how many yeasr ago that was.

F. Fox

Zen Man
05-12-2009, 07:20 PM
Was it a syndicated half-hour? It never ran locally as far as I know. But one of the stations used to take the individual cartoons and run them. I can't remember how many yeasr ago that was.

F. Fox

You could be right, course theres not a lot of info on it.

Mark The Shark
05-16-2009, 06:38 PM
Was it a syndicated half-hour? It never ran locally as far as I know. But one of the stations used to take the individual cartoons and run them. I can't remember how many yeasr ago that was.

F. Fox

All evidence points to that being a reference to the syndicated package of cartoons which formerly had appeared on the Huckleberry Hound and Yogi Bear shows. My understanding is that when a station bought that package, they received individual 16mm film prints of the cartoons and various show openings, closings and interstitials to use as they saw fit. In Los Angeles, there was a locally-presented syndicated Huckleberry Hound show (this is post-Kellogg's, late 60s/early 70s) which featured the Huckleberry Hound show opening and closing (no rooster), interstitial bumpers and three cartoons (which could be Huck, Yogi, and Quick Draw one day, or some other combination another day). In Chicago, cartoons from all three shows were featured on the locally-produced Ray Rayner And His Friends, Garfield Goose And Friends, and Bozo's Circus on WGN-TV. WGN later (in the early 1980s) had a half-hour show which they called Yogi Bear And Friends, again featuring cartoons from all three shows, and by then they made up their own opening (oddly, using a clip from a Quick Draw McGraw cartoon). I do remember looking at a book called the TV Almanac at one point -- this was an annual industry-type thing that came out and listed shows available from different distributors, etc. for that year. I don't remember what year that particular volume was from, but they did list Huckleberry Hound and Yogi Bear together as one package, and Quick Draw McGraw as a separate package. There also was some other package listed simply as Hanna-Barbera Cartoons, which had a figure of 156 cartoons. I took that to be a reference to Wally Gator, Touche Turtle and Lippy The Lion. In fact, I believe that series may have been promoted at one point (to TV stations) under the name Hanna-Barbera New Cartoon Series (a title never used on-screen) in order to distinguish these cartoons from those on the Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear and Quick Draw McGraw shows.

For what it's worth, a friend tells me he saw -- one time and only one time -- one Huckleberry Hound interstitial segment "accidentally left in" preceding a Huckleberry Hound cartoon on Bozo's Circus in the early 1970s. WGN generally did not bother with those show openings and bumpers -- the WGN way of doing things was just to cue up a telecine and run three cartoons, and be done with it. When WFLD-Channel 32 ran Magilla Gorilla, the series consisted of cartoons from the Magilla Gorilla and Peter Potamus shows. WFLD formatted them into half hour shows with three cartoons each, and I would guess they did this according to some manifest they received listing the titles in order. They transferred a version of the show opening to tape, superimposing their own station logo. That version of the opening featured Breezly & Sneezly. At the end it cross-faded to a static slide with a picture of Magilla and the station's logo. A couple of years later they redid their slides (they used them going into and out of commercial breaks) and they redid the Magilla Gorilla opening to feature the current slide design. That time, they used the version of the opening with Ricochet Rabbit and Droop-A-Long.

Zen Man
05-17-2009, 02:16 PM
All evidence points to that being a reference to the syndicated package of cartoons which formerly had appeared on the Huckleberry Hound and Yogi Bear shows. My understanding is that when a station bought that package, they received individual 16mm film prints of the cartoons and various show openings, closings and interstitials to use as they saw fit. In Los Angeles, there was a locally-presented syndicated Huckleberry Hound show (this is post-Kellogg's, late 60s/early 70s) which featured the Huckleberry Hound show opening and closing (no rooster), interstitial bumpers and three cartoons (which could be Huck, Yogi, and Quick Draw one day, or some other combination another day). In Chicago, cartoons from all three shows were featured on the locally-produced Ray Rayner And His Friends, Garfield Goose And Friends, and Bozo's Circus on WGN-TV. WGN later (in the early 1980s) had a half-hour show which they called Yogi Bear And Friends, again featuring cartoons from all three shows, and by then they made up their own opening (oddly, using a clip from a Quick Draw McGraw cartoon). I do remember looking at a book called the TV Almanac at one point -- this was an annual industry-type thing that came out and listed shows available from different distributors, etc. for that year. I don't remember what year that particular volume was from, but they did list Huckleberry Hound and Yogi Bear together as one package, and Quick Draw McGraw as a separate package. There also was some other package listed simply as Hanna-Barbera Cartoons, which had a figure of 156 cartoons. I took that to be a reference to Wally Gator, Touche Turtle and Lippy The Lion. In fact, I believe that series may have been promoted at one point (to TV stations) under the name Hanna-Barbera New Cartoon Series (a title never used on-screen) in order to distinguish these cartoons from those on the Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear and Quick Draw McGraw shows.

For what it's worth, a friend tells me he saw -- one time and only one time -- one Huckleberry Hound interstitial segment "accidentally left in" preceding a Huckleberry Hound cartoon on Bozo's Circus in the early 1970s. WGN generally did not bother with those show openings and bumpers -- the WGN way of doing things was just to cue up a telecine and run three cartoons, and be done with it. When WFLD-Channel 32 ran Magilla Gorilla, the series consisted of cartoons from the Magilla Gorilla and Peter Potamus shows. WFLD formatted them into half hour shows with three cartoons each, and I would guess they did this according to some manifest they received listing the titles in order. They transferred a version of the show opening to tape, superimposing their own station logo. That version of the opening featured Breezly & Sneezly. At the end it cross-faded to a static slide with a picture of Magilla and the station's logo. A couple of years later they redid their slides (they used them going into and out of commercial breaks) and they redid the Magilla Gorilla opening to feature the current slide design. That time, they used the version of the opening with Ricochet Rabbit and Droop-A-Long.

That explains a lot as I was curious about how the syndication packages of the H-B shorts were handled and aired. Thanks for the info.