Our little CN is growing up...

[Racattack!Force]

...so do you think that there is a chance, with all these TV-PG shows Cartoon Network is picking up, that Cartoon Network will make one of their own. And if they do, would you prefer one to be an action or a comedy? :confused:

[chdr]

Comedy, definitely.

[PC!]

They did. It was called Sunday Pants. ;)

[Mickialla]

While CN has made feats, I don't think they would make the shows themselves. It's definitely possible though. If it does happen, I'd rather have an action. I haven't seen a really good action show in a long time. Not kiddy action where there's mostly dialogue and barely any action or any epically fitting music. And I love epically fitting music. I can't watch an action show and call it perfect without it. If they were to do a TV-PG action show, I'd like something in the likes of Batman: Gotham Knight. Not really in the art style, it doesn't have to be anime-influenced, it just has to be more mature and serious characters but still good action and epic background music.

[Mugen]

While CN has made feats, I don't think they would make the shows themselves. It's definitely possible though. If it does happen, I'd rather have an action. I haven't seen a really good action show in a long time. Not kiddy action where there's mostly dialogue and barely any action or any epically fitting music. And I love epically fitting music. I can't watch an action show and call it perfect without it. If they were to do a TV-PG action show, I'd like something in the likes of Batman: Gotham Knight. Not really in the art style, it doesn't have to be anime-influenced, it just has to be more mature and serious characters but still good action and epic background music.

They did. Its called IGPX.

[Antiyonder]

I'll consider Cartoon Network to be mature when it stops caving into peer pressure.

[tdifan88]

i have to say comedy it would be even better if they did the new TV-PG shows the have now without any edits.

[Mickialla]

They did. Its called IGPX.

Well, though I've heard a lot of good things about the show, I never watched it myself unfortunately. But what I saw made me feel like it was an anime racing show with robots. And honestly, I dislike racing shows.

[chdr]

They got away with quite a few stuff. They got to say b*tch, bastard, ass, hell, damn, and crap in a cushy primetime slot without any editing.

[Mickialla]

They got away with quite a few stuff. They got to say b*tch, bastard, ass, hell, damn, and crap in a cushy primetime slot without any editing.

Woah! That's unexpected at all! But cursing doesn't make it an epic action show.

[chdr]

In my opinion, while it is great on a technical standpoint and others do like it, I thought IGPX was pretty weak. There were so many missed opportunities, I felt like I could write a better IGPX in my sleep.

[Raidon Makoto]

They did. It was called Sunday Pants. ;)
And it failed miserably. I wish they'd bring it back. :(
They did. Its called IGPX.
That was a Toonami original, not a Cartoon Network Original. :P And that also failed miserably, sad to say.

Honestly, I doubt it. All of CN has very few Originals now, and I really don't see them expanding.

[zoombie]

Don't they have Adult Swim for these kinds of shows?

[The Overlord]

Don't they have Adult Swim for these kinds of shows?

But Adult swim is for adults, I think we are talking about some potentially more edgy stuff for say, the pre-teen market.

[DELETED]

After all, it will be an awesome day when a character in a Cartoon Network show says 'hell' or some other word.

"Awesome day?" I disagree. Call me old fashioned, but I don't get why people get excited by a curse word in a cartoon. What's so cool and hip about it? Just give me an entertaining action show with a side of humor please. And hold the swearing.

Just my 3 cents...

[Jayngfet]

I want a good action series, concepts aren't that hard to find if you look around. Hell I'm making like six stories now.

[Racattack!Force]

Honestly, I doubt it. All of CN has very few Originals now, and I really don't see them expanding.
They actually want to expand and have more originals up and running. :sweat:

[Dudley]

i have to say comedy it would be even better if they did the new TV-PG shows the have now without any edits.

I agree. There's no point of giving these shows these ratings if they're going to dub over it.

[konohamaru]

So how did CN do any growing... i think they took a step back... more kid friendly programs? the one block that had any content is dead.
theres other networks out there with kid friendly programs. I dont get it ...

[DarthGonzo]

So how did CN do any growing... i think they took a step back... more kid friendly programs? the one block that had any content is dead.
theres other networks out there with kid friendly programs. I dont get it ...

Yeah I actually don't really see how the network has grown up when the programming is pandering directly to one demographic and only one demographic. Back in the day CN knew their audience was greater than just kids and they played it up whenever they could and would periodically throw older viewers a bone. It seems these days - especially with Adult Swim around - CN has simply decided to do their best to emulate what works on Disney Channel and Nick, two networks which don't disguise the fact that 100% of their programming is stricly for kids.

CN may be showing slightly better programming than they were a year ago and perhaps with stuff like TDI and SW they are taking a few more chances. But it's not really enough to say the channel has grown up.

[Silverstar]

So how did CN do any growing... i think they took a step back... more kid friendly programs? the one block that had any content is dead.
theres other networks out there with kid friendly programs. I dont get it ...


If you mean Toonami, that block died about a year or so before CN pulled the plug on it, IMO. It was on life support since around 2006.

As for the latter, that's precisely the point. CN is trying to compete head-on with the other kid-friendly networks; CN's been presenting itself as a kids' network for some time now.

But I'd say they're growing some: less reliance on live-action, some cartoons that people would actually want to watch, a looser hand on the censorship button at night; they're baby steps, but nonetheless steps in the right direction.

[DarthGonzo]

But I'd say they're growing some: less reliance on live-action, some cartoons that people would actually want to watch, a looser hand on the censorship button at night; they're baby steps, but nonetheless steps in the right direction.

CN is improving. That's not the same as growning up. Some things don't actually get better with age. Look at The Simpsons. :p

[Dr.Pepper]

"Awesome day?" I disagree. Call me old fashioned, but I don't get why people get excited by a curse word in a cartoon. What's so cool and hip about it? Just give me an entertaining action show with a side of humor please. And hold the swearing
I totally agree. We don't need swearing on a channel aimed for 6-11 year olds just for kicks.

[chdr]

I totally agree. We don't need swearing on a channel aimed for 6-11 year olds just for kicks.

That's the thing. CN should be aimed for all ages, not just 6-11 year olds.

[Taco Wiz]

comedy

Total Drama Island was a good PG comedy.

[Mickialla]

"Awesome day?" I disagree. Call me old fashioned, but I don't get why people get excited by a curse word in a cartoon. What's so cool and hip about it? Just give me an entertaining action show with a side of humor please. And hold the swearing.

I agree that a show doesn't need curses to be mature or good, but cursing does prove that a show has the potential to take other risks, like showing more intense action rather than the played down action we usually get in TV action series'.

They did. It was called Sunday Pants. ;)

Sunday Pants wasn't a CN original. CN didn't make it. They just packaged shorts together.

[The Huntsman]

"Awesome day?" I disagree. Call me old fashioned, but I don't get why people get excited by a curse word in a cartoon. What's so cool and hip about it? Just give me an entertaining action show with a side of humor please. And hold the swearing.Besides, there is still a lot of debate over whether or not “hell” is actually a curse word. People always act shocked when they hear it in an animated program, as the episode talkback for the recent episode of “Star Wars: The Clone Wars” has shown, but it’s not really that bad of a word.

[tb4000]

Like I mentioned before, the stuff they did in the 1995-1997 years was pretty much on par with the time I feel they were at their peak. The cartoons on at that time were slapsticky and fun for kids, but were pretty much on the verge of PG-rated material often, from the What A Cartoon! shorts to the Cow and Chicken/Johnny Bravo era. That's what I want, cartoons that have that little risque touch to them, yet not full blown into all out crudeness.

[Racattack!Force]

Besides, there is still a lot of debate over whether or not “hell” is actually a curse word. People always act shocked when they hear it in an animated program, as the episode talkback for the recent episode of “Star Wars: The Clone Wars” has shown, but it’s not really that bad of a word.
According to some people, it depends on the context.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Originally posted by tb4000
Like I mentioned before, the stuff they did in the 1995-1997 years was pretty much on par with the time I feel they were at their peak. The cartoons on at that time were slapsticky and fun for kids, but were pretty much on the verge of PG-rated material often, from the What A Cartoon! shorts to the Cow and Chicken/Johnny Bravo era. That's what I want, cartoons that have that little risque touch to them, yet not full blown into all out crudeness.

That's the thing though: Subtle humor and slight innuendo isn't enough nowadays. Really it's kind of been a sloping sign of crudeness really: In the early days cartoons were full of more subtle humor that could be pretty much be enjoyed by everyone but with everyone enjoying certains parts more then others. That isn't true for the shows now where you kind of have to either be crude or be have a definite edge to be noticed for having it.

As for the whole "CN Is Growing Up Thing" well really, there's been like 10 or so shows that have aired on regular CN (as in not Adult Swim) and got away with some form of light swearing. These were called more middleground then kdidy fair. The thing is though that not only is CN more heavily promoting them now but they also seem to be dominiating the line up, which is why CN is now heavily favoring the PG rating more and more. Though they still have the obviously kid friendly image I can see one day soon a show they created actually branching into that terroritory to completley cement CN trying to appease to teen and old viewers alike without going into Adult Swim terroritory. It's actually pretty much been the dream of every CN faithful to see a middleground block for at least five years: Now it just seem's that dream is eding closer and closer to reality which is defintley a good thing.

[Mickialla]

Like I mentioned before, the stuff they did in the 1995-1997 years was pretty much on par with the time I feel they were at their peak. The cartoons on at that time were slapsticky and fun for kids, but were pretty much on the verge of PG-rated material often, from the What A Cartoon! shorts to the Cow and Chicken/Johnny Bravo era. That's what I want, cartoons that have that little risque touch to them, yet not full blown into all out crudeness.

So very true. A show doesn't need to be gory with curses and unneeded sex all the time (cough cough Adult Swim cough cough) to be mature and more adult.

[creativerealms]

So how did CN do any growing... i think they took a step back... more kid friendly programs? the one block that had any content is dead.
theres other networks out there with kid friendly programs. I dont get it ...

Thats it Kono regular CN seems to be moving a bit away from just kid friendly shows. TDI, 6Teen, Clone Wars three PG rated shows ending up on the network at the same time this year. 6teen's early time sloty makes it the earliest aired PG rated show ever. And I would not really say Chowder and Flapjack are more kid friendly then Cartoon networks earlier toons.

It's ok to remember Toonami and even if it was your favorite block but really your acting like it was replaced with shows for preschoolers when it was not.

the problem with IPGX was that (especially season two) the show relied too much on those curse words keeping people comming back. the show really peaked for me after season one and season two was pretty worthless IMo.

[soundmonkey44]

or little CN...THat titles hillarous! I had no IDea CN was a midget. I mean its not a child. Its been around for nearly 2 decades. But yea I'd deffinantly go for another action show!:p