X-Men: Evolution "Walk On The Wild Side" Talkback (Spoilers) [Archive]

James Harvey

03-02-2002, 12:44 PM

The new X-Men: Evolution episode aired today, and it was surprisingly good.

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Episode #23 - Walk on the Wild Side
Original Airdate - March 2, 2002

Jean is fed up with Scott trying to be the "hero" all of the time. When some of the X-girls hook up with BoomBoom, they throw the rules out of the window and decide to show the boys just what they can do. But what happens when they take it too far?

Comments?

Aximlli

03-02-2002, 03:48 PM

They actually fought in this one?! OMG! I missed the ep!

~checks the schedule for reruns~

-Aximlli-

Failure

03-02-2002, 05:08 PM

Seeing hand to hand combat was pretty cool. Looks like developing powers wasnt been the only thing they've been working on. The story was meh, but it was Charlie's Angel-esque chop-schlocky fun. 2.5 stars.

A had a little continuity question though, I remember there was an earlier ep where the Blob had his head shaved. But then they had his mohawk back until Boom Boom chopped it off. Was this ep supposed to air at an earlier date?

And have we seen Amara(sp?) in the show before? I don't remember seeing her before.

DR. BELCH

03-02-2002, 05:16 PM

The animation was good, but the girls were just being very unlikable here. Jean's tantrum about independence and "you're being...a guy!" was just so out of left field I started wondering if she was flying the crimson flag, and how dangerous a mutie girl would be under those conditions. :p
What is Boom-Boom insinuating with the "yes, it's my real color" crack...and how would she even know? ;)

JohnStewart-GL

03-02-2002, 08:27 PM

i gave 4 stars. it was funny.

batE

03-02-2002, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Failure

A had a little continuity question though, I remember there was an earlier ep where the Blob had his head shaved. But then they had his mohawk back until Boom Boom chopped it off. Was this ep supposed to air at an earlier date?

This was aired out of order. Should've come before "Shadow Dance." If you remember, in this ep, Duncan came running up saying he tickets for the Sadie Hawkins. *next month.* And in Shadow Dance, Jean was griping (I think to Kitty) that Duncan expected her to ask him because he'd bought the tickets in advance. And, of course, there was the whole issue of Fred and his mohawk.

Honestly, I didn't like this much. First of all, the outfits were a little too much. Second, the music video as just a little too schlocky. Third, the battle sequence was OK, but the whole ep just went by too fast. One second, Jean's telling Amara that they're not going to do it again, and next second the music starts playing and Rogue and Kitty are involved. WTH? And I really get peeved when they get a chance to show the Brotherhood and they don't show my boy. That really steams me. I read the article on comics continuum about wanting to do an all-girl ep because they got an extra 4 eps to work with -- well, instead of that hideous "Retreat," why didn't they do an all-BH ep (well, not really all-BH, I guess, but mostly BH with ALL of them in it).

All right. I'm done ranting. I gave this ep two stars. It was better than Retreat but nowhere near as great as Shadow Dance and some of the other early-season eps.

batE

James Harvey

03-02-2002, 09:46 PM

"instead of that hideous "Retreat,"

Really? THis looks to be a great episode finally focusing on Wolverine and will feature guest shots by Nick Fury, Captain America, and possibly Sabretooth I think this is awesome! Although, I would like to see more episodes featuring the BH, though. This was definatly a fluff episode in the strongests sense, but it wasn't completely bad.

And I was wondering where Pietro was, too.

Fantasie117

03-03-2002, 12:33 PM

Um...unless I'm reading something wrong, isn't Retreat the one where Beast takes some students out in the woods and scientists hunting Big Foot capture him? I think it aired last week or two weeks ago.

Jim, you might be thinking of Operation: Rebirth.

I didn't like this episode all that much, especially that music video thing. That went on way too long. It had some funny lines, but that was about it.

James Harvey

03-03-2002, 01:33 PM

D'OH! I did get those episodes mixed up! I must be losing it in my old age. :)

I will say that this season has been much. much better than the first season. Heck, we've only seen 10 or so episodes of this season, and they just hand s down beat season 1. Granted, Season 1 had some real good episodes, but this season I think the show has found it's blanace. MIndbender was a great episode, the highlight for me, personally, so far.

batE

03-03-2002, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Jim Harvey

I will say that this season has been much. much better than the first season. Heck, we've only seen 10 or so episodes of this season, and they just hand s down beat season 1. Granted, Season 1 had some real good episodes, but this season I think the show has found it's balace. MIndbender was a great episode, the highlight for me, personally, so far.

Jim, I'm glad to hear you say that. I, too, like this season much more than I liked the first (though there are only a few eps, Mindbender and Shadow Dance being two of them) that beat out The Cauldron as far as best ep in the series goes (IMO, of course). And I, too, can't wait for Operation: Rebirth. I love Wolvie. And I wonder: Will Nick Fury be fronting S.H.I.E.L.D. like he does in Ultimate X-Men? I wonder . . .

A lot of fans I've talked to seen to dislike this season because it has been rather Spyke-heavy. Now, I LOVE Evan/Spyke (batE ducks flying debris) and, as a result, loved Beast of Bayville and African Storm. But Retreat, which also featured lots of Spyke, was just putrid to me -- as much as I love Beast. I'm hoping that we see more dark eps in Season 3 like Mindbender and that we see a little more BH. If Apocalypse is gonna be in it, maybe we'll see the X-Men and the BH team up to stop him. Now, THAT would be good television :)

batE

James Harvey

03-03-2002, 08:08 PM

I've been very pleased this be enjoyable when handled good on the series. The Cauldron was definatly a great ending to the first season, even if it wasn't exactly perfect. And I think season three will be a great season. I bet we'l see the two side team up when Apocalypse comes. And I like the idea of them being on the same side eevry once and awhile.

Supernovametalstar

03-04-2002, 04:16 PM

The episode did hint at being an Xmen version of Charlie's Angels and that Batman episode "Girls Night Out". I liked it. I only wish the station it played on didn't have signal problems during the airing (I would curse you WCIU, but then I'd have no place to see KWB shows unless UPN picked up the block and sandwiched it inbetwween reruns of The Three Stooges and that Clueless tv series).

I'm glad they finally said one of the new recruits names enough times for me to remember they had one. But I'm still a little disappointed that the series so far doesn't know whether to showcase the old team or the new recruites and put them in some battles with more action and/or substance. But I'm probably just getting antsy waiting for Apocalypse to show up :cool:

Samhaine

03-05-2002, 12:14 AM

I just spent the last few days watching every episode of this season thus far. I must say, I've really enjoyed it. I'm liking the less action-oriented, more character-development that has been most of Season 2. And when they do fight, they know what they're doing, showing that Logan's sessions have been paying off. There's been a good bit of continuity as well, such as the Duncan ticket thing (even though they aired the ep out of order) and Nightcrawler's probation. It gives the show more of a flow, and that I really enjoy.

Can't wait to see an appearance by Apocalypse, hopefully that will show up in Season 3.

And I love the Brotherhood, however sparse they're shown (like them better now than when they were relegated to "the bad guys". now, they're just the outcasts).

Bic

03-05-2002, 02:02 AM

Yep the second season is better overall. And I really enjoyed this episode. Kitty could fight!!! Yay!!! Oh and the dancing sequences were good in keeping each character distinct.

The music video segment was kinda fun, but jarring at the same time. However the animation was fabulous! This has to be some of the best animation for an American TV show I seen in a while.

My major dissapointment about this season, which was touched upon briefly in this episode, is the use of Mystique. I like a little mystery and would have preferred that Risty(?), Mystique's secret identity, remain secret. They could provide clues and that would really be a shock to the audience as well as Rogue when the truth would be revealed.

James Harvey

03-05-2002, 12:07 PM

I like the Mystique thing. When the revealed it back in October, I was genuinely surprised - something a show hasn't done for me in a long time. I was caughtr offgaurd. But know that we know, her presence adds a sense of danger now. I wonder if she'll somehow be connected to Apocalypse.

Sandoz

03-05-2002, 06:29 PM

It was a good epsidode, but I was disappointed by it. The whole Charlie's Angels/Girl Power thing got really old REALLY fast...the new costumes were cool, and as always, I love the Brotherhood (Lance!!! :D ) BUT I really DON'T like Jean. I really found it hard to swallow that Miss Perfect would join up with the likes of Boom-Boom. I loved how Tabby fought against a rig of car-jackers, yet repeatedly stole Lance's car herself. But then again, she never claimed to be an upstanding citizen.

Sandman

02-11-2004, 10:54 PM

This is the second time I have seen this episode. The first time I saw it, I hated it like everyone else. But seeing it for the second time makes me at least understand what they were trying to do.

It is clear that with the content in many of the season 2 episodes, they were trying to reach a female audience. Evo does have a large female following, so I guess it worked. Walk on the Wild Side was their most blatant attempt with its girl power and The Craft themes. But this episode is still basically an excuse to do a five minute well animated pseudo music video. I give them credit for trying to at least be different. I think I read that someone who worked on the show wrote the "I am just girl" song and the Walk on the Wild Side theme.

I can see why so many Brotherhood fans hated Tabby. No wonder poor Toad never took a shower.

Wolfsbane

02-12-2004, 05:19 PM

This episode was pretty good. I give it 4 and 1/2 stars. I liked the animation, it was well done. I liked the nice little "Only a Girl" music video thing also. I wonder where Jubilee and Rahne were durring this whole thing, I'm surprized they weren't invited to come along. I can't belive Tabby would walk into the bathroom while Todd was in there twice, although it was kinda funny. Poor Lance kept getting his jeep jacked. I felt bad for him. Rogue seemed a bit out of character for some reason, but only in a couple of scenes. I liked the twist at the end where the officer turned out to be Mystique.

screw on head

02-12-2004, 05:20 PM

i gotta admit i liked this episode on first airing anyway. i like it when we get to see a girls night out focus on a superhero team. the only truely painful part of the episode was that forced music video style montage of the assembly of their team. they even went as far as to put red lines where the widescreen bars meets the picture, aping the look of an mtv rap video. i'm not even sure if they knew why they added that red line, but it was very goofy. aside from that, in retrospect, the scene with scott and jean and magma seemed to push the girl power angle a little too hard, but if i had walked in without knowing the premise, it wouldn't have seemed so blatant. and before i forget, magma always looked way way too similar to jubilee. another puzzling choice by another facet of the creative team, designing two nearly identical looking characters. i couldn't tell them apart side by side, hey, even by voice, so that's another weird creative decision made with this show. it really boggles the mind, it's a minor yet terribly confusing decision.

Chosen Raven

02-13-2004, 03:30 PM

Hmmm, didn't know Evo talkbacks were going on. I should visit this part of the board more often.

Oh joy. Another anti-male episode. It seems that every TV show has one these days. Needless to say,I thought this episode was insanely stupid. The way they had Scott come off as some arrogant punk made him seem completely out of character. And then Duncan comes along and asks Jean out to the Sadie Hawkins Day dance. Those stupid male pigs, huh?:rolleyes: The music video suprised the heck out of me(in a bad way), but the blow was softned by the fact that it had some good animation in it. Then there was the fight scene. The only fight scene in the entire series(so far) where blows actually connect. Of course, the fight scene contains a bunch of teenage girls with arms about as thick as pencils verses a large group of buff, hardened criminals....with knives, steel pipes and chains. Not only do the girls win without a scratch, but they've mysteriously become martial arts experts(even the newbies!). On a side note, I wonder why the male members of the Brotherhood haven't tossed Tabitha out yet. The girl's dangerously abusive(witch doesn't even begin to describe her). Maybe, deep down inside, they're all gentlemen(it's hard to belive that about the Blob though).

Anyway, this episode shoved girlpower in my face so much that I think I accidentally became a feminist until 5 minutes after the show. I know I'm going to get into trouble for saying this, but women are the weaker sex. Physically. Only phyisically. And by "only physically" I mean everything else is equal...so please don't kill me. I'd like to think that women are confident enough to not have to be lied to.

I just started watching Evo recently(when CN put it back on weekdays). And I have to say, with the episodes I've seen so far, I am very unimpressed.

STARTOUNZ

02-14-2004, 04:40 PM

I definitely agree on your comments Chosen Raven! The whole girl power theme was really lame, especially by making it seem cool with an MTV-style video. It was really pointless for Jean to be so upset with Scott simply because he "saved" her and Amara. After all, she and Storm already saved Scott and Alex in "Adrift", which is at least one example where the girls already proved themselves. The problem with this episode was that not only were the "damsels in distress" but they were causing it as well. Notice when Tabitha (who's more annoying than usual here) sprinkled her boom balls all over the garage, the car the chop shop boss was in nearly ignited which would have caused the whole place to blow up since it held a number of fuel barrels as well. Luckily, Scott was there to save them. It's too bad Jean didn't see him, otherwise she would have realized how wrong (and stupid) she really was here and cerainly should have admitted it. Frankly, with episodes like this from season 2, the first season is looking a whole lot better. Fortunately, the show got much better in the last two seasons.

Chosen Raven

02-14-2004, 10:25 PM

Wow. I didn't think that the first response I got would be a positive one. Cool.

It's too bad Jean didn't see him, otherwise she would have realized how wrong (and stupid) she really was here and cerainly should have admitted it.
The way she was acting before, she probably would have just screamed at him again. Which is probably why Scott(wisely) told Kurt to ignore what he did.

Frankly, with episodes like this from season 2, the first season is looking a whole lot better. Fortunately, the show got much better in the last two seasons.
I sure hope the next few seasons are better. This season hasn't been that good at all.

Spider-Man

08-27-2005, 11:16 AM

YTV is rerunning this fun episode during their late-night block tonight!

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Crossdive

08-27-2005, 03:31 PM

They actually fought in this one?! OMG! I missed the ep!

~checks the schedule for reruns~

-Aximlli-rent or buy the Enemies Unveiled DVD, well worth every penny for 4 great episodes, take it from the man who owns one. ;)

I personally did really like this one, and I thought it was good to see some new elements and personality trates of the women of the X-Men, seen as each one shines in her own unique way, and it was good for character depth and development between Scott and Jean and all. I don't like this one NEARLY as much as several other eps on the series, but I think it is definately worth a watch and it is a very unique and out-of-the-ordinary episode, which, in this case, made for some good entertainment.

cheeno

04-15-2006, 11:01 PM

BCVM22

04-15-2006, 11:04 PM

Weird kind's posting after more than 3 years but I just want to know,WHO WAS THE BAND WHO HAD SANG THE SONG " i'm only a girl" Even at X-M:E articel( very lengthy)at Wikipedia, doesn't has any information regarding this.

In all likelihood, it was just a piece of music composed for the show. I doubt there's a nameable band to credit it to.

Shantosh9500

04-16-2006, 12:15 AM

I personally find this episode pretty pathetic. Mainly because of the Girl Power stuff.

cheeno

04-17-2006, 08:34 AM

In all likelihood, it was just a piece of music composed for the show. I doubt there's a nameable band to credit it to.

Hmmm...How come that never hit me!?Ok anyways, I've seen many people hating this episode, though the directors have put such cool animation in it, the slow-motion catwalk was cool too, yeah but the main ingredient,the plot was awful.The video was nice , it did featured some cool dance moves, I loved the Jean/Amara dance, they looked hot!though the song was lame.The video had red/black lines, did it indicated to be an MTV stlye video?Was the video successful and did it got promotion or won any award or stuff like that?

ifthismeansevos

04-17-2006, 09:50 AM

Uh three years after but...I like the episode because of the animation. But at least for me it destroyed Rogue's character completely. She stop the goth act and then Scarlett replaced her (Hey actually she did even if the producers didn't mean her to she replaced her as the lonely goth girl) Maybe they should use Rahne or Jubilee but hey it's way tooooooooooo late for that.

BCVM22

04-17-2006, 04:39 PM

The video had red/black lines, did it indicated to be an MTV stlye video?Was the video successful and did it got promotion or won any award or stuff like that?

No. It was one brief sequence in one episode of an animated children's show. What sort of awards would you expect it to win?

cheeno

04-18-2006, 10:20 AM

No. It was one brief sequence in one episode of an animated children's show. What sort of awards would you expect it to win?

Well...I had never seen anything like this before so i just thought it really really deserves something, an award , perhaps, an MTV best animated music video?Silly,I know.:shrug:

SaBaWoJuLe

07-02-2007, 05:07 PM

Silverstar

07-02-2007, 05:20 PM

"Walk on the Wild Side" was just 'meh' to me; I didn't need to see any more of that. The 2 main things I didn't like about that episode were:

1. That girly-pop song they stuck in the middle of it, and:

2. That halfway through the story, the Sirens are joined by Rogue and Shadowcat, although they had absolutely nothing at all to do with the story. I get that Kitty and Rogue were both members of the core team and as such the writers felt that those 2 should've been involved in some way, but realistically the only way the story would have made sense would be to keep the Sirens at just Jean, Amara and Tabitha.

Anyway, if you want to see more Bayville Sirens stuff, just go to fanfiction.net. there are tons of "Walk on the Wild Side" sequels there. Be warned, though: most of them are gawdawful, which is why I generally avoid fanfic like the Plague.

W.C.Reaf

07-02-2007, 06:31 PM

I liked the episode, it was a fun piece but one of those "poke it with a stick and it falls apart" type plots. Something to just watch and not over analyse every minuet detail.

Amara and Tabby's interaction was good, nice to see they were still friends even though Tabby joined the Brotherhood. Amara's first speaking role in Evo as well. :)

The music video was a nice nod that the creative weren't taking this very seriously which is a good thing IMO that the show wasn't uber serious all the time and we can get lighter episodes that are just meant for fun. Also the animation was beautiful for the MV; god when they danced together.... it was just fantastic.

BTW Tabby's Sirens outfit is the same one she wears in the Ascension episodes. It was a nice nod to the group she started and that she may not feel that much of an X-(wo)man, yet. Strange how I've never seen it commented on, at all.

Blackstar

07-02-2007, 06:46 PM

Who here loved the Bayville Sirens all-girl team from X-Men Evolution "Walk on the Wild Side" episode? I saw the episode again and I enjoyed it like I did before. The only thing was that it ended. At the end, there was no more team. Maybe they could've continued on. Maybe a what-if spin off series, comic book series, or something. Maybe someone did some fanfic stories. That was the only thign I didn't like.

So who here liked this all-girl team from Evo?

"A Walk on the Wild Side" was an OK episode. Not great, but passable. However, I disagree about the possibility for more episodes. I think that a spinoff series would have been pushing it. I mean, the Bayville Sirens just went around dispensing their brand of mutant justice and taking the law into their own hands, but isn't what the X-Men do generally already? When you get down to the bare bones of it, what was the difference between the X-Men and the Bayville Sirens except that Sirens had a big "NO BOYS ALLOWED" sign on their clubhouse door?

Honestly, if there were to have been an XME spinoff, I would rather have seen a series focusing on the Founding Five X-Men (Professor X, Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel and Iceman) than I would a Bayville Sirens series. That was only good for one story anyway, IMHO.

pagen_hd

07-03-2007, 12:04 AM

I didn't know there was an all-girl team episode. Thanks for letting me know! My favorite characters are Rogue, Kitty, Jean, Storm, Mystique, ..., all girls!

Neo Ultra Mike

07-03-2007, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Blackstar
"A Walk on the Wild Side" was an OK episode. Not great, but passable. However, I disagree about the possibility for more episodes. I think that a spinoff series would have been pushing it. I mean, the Bayville Sirens just went around dispensing their brand of mutant justice and taking the law into their own hands, but isn't what the X-Men do generally already? When you get down to the bare bones of it, what was the difference between the X-Men and the Bayville Sirens except that Sirens had a big "NO BOYS ALLOWED" sign on their clubhouse door?

Well in X-Men Evolution the X-Men team generally don't do anything unless they happen to either see a crime happening around town or it's some big emergencey. The sirens specifically sought out criminals and actually attacked more then the regular X-Men would. Which is technically different.

Honestly, if there were to have been an XME spinoff, I would rather have seen a series focusing on the Founding Five X-Men (Professor X, Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel and Iceman) than I would a Bayville Sirens series. That was only good for one story anyway, IMHO.

Eh, I doubt we're ever going to see any Evo spinoffs/offshoots or anything new related to the Evolution series ever again. If you want an original five spinoff, you should watch "Under Lock And Key" with the founding 5 vs Magneto's group. That's the closest you'll get to one.

Personally I think "Walk On The Wild Side" is a bit too critcitzed. Yes the musical number's sort of uncomrting to watch and the message about "girl power" seems lost when Scott had to bail them out recklessly burning down the complex with they're powers, but it's not the worst episode ever as people often hail it. There are plenty of more annoying filler episodes (espically from the 4th season like the second X23 ep) that are worse then this. Even if there were Evo spinoffs though, I wouldn't want to see this get one. I mean how many Marvel fans are even for the whole "all girl power" thing anyway? (besides I guess people like pagen_hd).

Blackstar

07-03-2007, 08:49 AM

I personally have no need nor desire to see any kind of XME spinoff. I merely said that if there had to be a spinoff that my 1st choice would not be a Bayville Sirens spinoff. The whole "girl power" vibe thing worked once in "Walk on the Wild Side", but that wouldn't be interesting over and over again. But I did see "Under Lock and Key", which was a good episode and a clever way of paying homage to the original team of X-Men. The point was driven home when Bobby said "Oh, yeah! Definitely the cool team!"

I'm actually on the fence about "Walk on the Wild Side"; it was far from being the best episode of the series, but I wouldn't call it the worst either. The most irritating thing about WOTWS was the music video the writers stuck in the middle of the story. Did we really need the girlie pop song? And even as girlie pop songs go, I've heard better. I taped the episode when it was 1st run, so when I watched the playback, I would just fast-forward past the song. Problem solved.

But unless the hypothetical Bayville Sirens series was going to take a lighter approach than the average X-Men fare and just be a goofy comedy like the Fantastic Four or Teen Titans: TAS, I would see no reason whatsoever for spinning the Sirens off.

BCVM22

07-03-2007, 06:30 PM

cheeno, is that you?

Evolution is dead, and even if it weren't, they aren't going to spin off another series based on one concept episode that has all the female characters going out, suiting up in black leather and shades for some reason, and fighting crime.

Arsenal

07-03-2007, 09:39 PM

BCVM22:
cheeno, is that you?

That was unnecessary.

I thought the theme of "Walking on the Wildside" was compromised by the end. What's the point of having an episode about empowering girls if a guy is going to secretly save them at the end?

Also, I'm going to combine this with the episode talkback, since it's talking back... about the episode.

Spider-Man

07-04-2007, 03:07 PM

I didn't mind the episode that much, really. I thought it was a cute filler episode but nothing more. The music video was a teeny bit annoying however. I find that music videos made for cartoons, such as this, usually are. I thought it was a cute episode to let the girl characters cut loose. Obviously the creators on the show knew who the fanbase was and let them have an episode where the the girls run around, dance and fight crime. I wasn't amazed by the episode and usually skip over it when I watch the DVDs.

Stu

07-04-2007, 03:51 PM

I found it to be pretty enjoyable fluff. I clearly wasn't thier target market in this episode (or a lot of the others, for that matter) but I did get a chuckle or two from it. The scene in which Cyclops apologises for saving Jean from the falling depris was great fun.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/xmenevo/episode/walkwild/23.jpg

And who could forget that? :)

Nygma

07-04-2007, 04:35 PM

I thought the theme of "Walking on the Wildside" was compromised by the end. What's the point of having an episode about empowering girls if a guy is going to secretly save them at the end?

So if you're Cyclops you just let the building explode, just because it would tick the girls off, instead of saving their lives. No offense Arsenal but I just don't see the logic in that. Besides Scott & Kurt said they wouldn't get involved unless absolutely necessary.

Also like the picture of Cyclops above Stu, and his "Kurt, I'm right here." Though I thought the funniest moments of the episode were from Boom-Boom and her interactions with the Brotherhood, especially when she stole Lance's jeep, twice!:D

As for the episode itself, its okay. It's nowhere near the worst episodes season 2 has to offer (that honor... err dishonor goes to Adrift & African Storm), the only part that I felt was questionable was the music video. Everything else I felt was okay.

***

Sandoz

07-04-2007, 08:11 PM

So if you're Cyclops you just let the building explode, just because it would tick the girls off, instead of saving their lives. No offense Arsenal but I just don't see the logic in that. Besides Scott & Kurt said they wouldn't get involved unless absolutely necessary.

Or the writers could have just skipped the exploding building thing entirely. I know they were trying to send a nice "boys and girls should work together" message, but it doesn't play out very well. They don't work together, not really, because Cyclops and Nightcrawler stay out of sight and the Sirens never know they're there. It also undermines the "girls don't need boys to save them" message because not only did they need boys to save them in the end, they needed the boys to save them from themselves since Boom-Boom's reckless behavior started the fires and the other Sirens weren't paying attention.