C&C - Anything Else [8/24-8/30]

[Mugen]

Welcome to the Anything Else thread! New episodes of the various AS originals continue.

New Episodes in Lime Green
New Arrivals in Red
Return to Weekday Glory in Orange
Very slight change in time in Light Blue

http://adultswimhq.com/sundays.jpg August 24th
10.00/1.30 Family Guy
10.30/2.00 American Dad
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Venture Bros.
12.00/3.30 Metalocalyspe
12.15/3.45 Metalocalyspe
12.30/4.00 Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!
12.45/4.15 Assy McGee
1.00/4.30 Mission Hill
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha

August 25th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 The Oblongs
5.30 Inuyasha



http://adultswimhq.com/tuesdays.jpg August 26th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 The Oblongs
5.30 Inuyasha



http://adultswimhq.com/wednesdays.jpg August 27th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 The Oblongs
5.30 Inuyasha


http://adultswimhq.com/thursdays.jpg August 28th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 The Oblongs
5.30 Inuyasha



August 29th
11.00/2.30 Brak Show
11.15/2.45 Brak Show
11.30/3.00 Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
11.45/3.15 Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
12.00/3.30 Sealab 2021
12.15/3.45 Sealab 2021
12.30/4.00 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.45/4.15 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
1.00/4.30 The Oblongs
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
5.30 Inuyasha


http://adultswimhq.com/saturdays.jpgAugust 30th
11.00/2.00 Metalocalyspe
11.15/2.15 Metalocalyspe
11.30/2.30 The Venture Bros.
12.00/3.00 Shin-Chan
12.30/3.30 Bleach
01.00/4.00 Code Geass
01.30/4.30 Moribito
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha

[Beat]

After watching that rerun of "Dethdoubles", I can safely say two things about Metalocolaypse. One- It's the closest the new school shows have come to capturing the vintage AS dialog style, and two, the show seems to have split personality disorder. The violence, the conspiracy plotline, it all seems to be a smokescreen to hid the fact that the main characters are about one step removed from a traditional dysfunctional family sitcom. Seeing Nathan Explosion, the most metal of the group, acting how he did around his double (Hey! We're gonna pal around!) just served to highlight the difference in tone between the personalities and the setting.

Also, nothing major save the Olympics messing with the ratings this week. I doubt it'll be significant.

[TnAdct1]

Also, nothing major save the Olympics messing with the ratings this week. I doubt it'll be significant. Not to mention that last Saturday was a re-airing of the ATHF movie and two repeats of Shin-chan, thus meaning that there won't be any *****ing from the anime fans this week (next week though, due to the gold medal basketball game... :shrug: )

[The Collector]

Not to mention that last Saturday was a re-airing of the ATHF movie and two repeats of Shin-chan, thus meaning that there won't be any *****ing from the anime fans this week (next week though, due to the gold medal basketball game... :shrug: )

I can fix that. :evil:

It seemed to me that AS is giving a big middle finger to anime fans once again as I was watching the premiers last night. They say advertising doesn't do any good and that's why they don't make any promos for the anime, but damn if I didn't see two or three comedy ads during all three premiers (I don't watch Shin Chan, but it probably was the same) and, of course, nothing for the anime. Now, either the line about promos not helping their shows is a load of BS(my vote) or some how it works for comedy and not anime, which makes about as much sense as putting your best performing show(Bleach) after the ratings void that is Shin Chan.

[Master Moron]

I can fix that. :evil:

It seemed to me that AS is giving a big middle finger to anime fans once again as I was watching the premiers last night. They say advertising doesn't do any good and that's why they don't make any promos for the anime, but damn if I didn't see two or three comedy ads during all three premiers (I don't watch Shin Chan, but it probably was the same) and, of course, nothing for the anime. Now, either the line about promos not helping their shows is a load of BS(my vote) or some how it works for comedy and not anime, which makes about as much sense as putting your best performing show(Bleach) after the ratings void that is Shin Chan.

Actually, there was an ad for Bleach during Shin Chan.

[The Collector]

Actually, there was an ad for Bleach during Shin Chan.

Very well, I stand corrected... sort of. Still, it'd be nice to see something for the newer anime, but it doesn't look like that's likely.

[Kitschensyngk]

Could someone explain this "Spirit of Massachusetts" gag, please? That Family Guy reference was too obscure, even for me.

[johnny139]

Could someone explain this "Spirit of Massachusetts" gag, please? That Family Guy reference was too obscure, even for me.

I think it's from a series of tourism ads for Massachusetts. Not entirely sure though, since they wouldn't air them, you know, in Massachusetts.

[Master Moltar]

The ATHF movie didn't do any better than the regular line-up. Olympics could be blamed though.

[Ahiru-kun]

The ATHF movie didn't do any better than the regular line-up. Olympics could be blamed though.

But when is there never anything else on on Saturday? AS just needs to give Saturday back to CN and move their anime block to a weekday.

[Master Moltar]

Well, the Olympics are in a whole different league than the usual Saturday night programming. Ratings for almost everything are lower than usual because of them.

[Wounded_Dragon]

But when is there never anything else on on Saturday? AS just needs to give Saturday back to CN and move their anime block to a weekday.

Oh no. Five will get you ten, if AS loses Saturday they lose anime period.

[Ahiru-kun]

Oh no. Five will get you ten, if AS loses Saturday they lose anime period.

But there's no hope for Saturday. Even Robot Chicken, Adult Swim's second most popular show, performed terribly. It's doesn't matter what they do. They'll be lucky to get 500k.

Now that I think about it, the move to a weekday isn't all that ideal. People will criticize AS for trying to ride the coattails of Sci-Fi's Ani-Monday.

[Wounded_Dragon]

But there's no hope for Saturday. Even Robot Chicken, Adult Swim's second most popular show, performed terribly. It's doesn't matter what they do. They'll be lucky to get 500k.

Now that I think about it, the move to a weekday isn't all that ideal. People will criticize AS for trying to ride the coattails of Sci-Fi's Ani-Monday.

Anime does its job of filling out the time and sacrificing itself so that the average ratings for comedies aren't lowered by being on Saturday. It's a thankless job. Mocked even.

[The Collector]

Yes, it's a well-established fact that comedy does no better than the anime on Saturday(short of FG airing and that obviously isn't going to happen). That's why it really irritates me when AS screws with a line-up that was doing fine to once again throw on more comedies that fail even worse than anime. It's all comedy all the time for the rest of the week, what's so wrong about letting anime have Saturday? It's just very frustrating.

Also, thank god I visit this board or I would have had no idea Moribito was airing last night. I wonder how many other people knew.:shrug:

[animePWNS]

Well I'm back. I skipped last week since the only anime on were some Shin Chan reruns and didn't really feel like quoting them again. However, I did watch the Olympics with some friends and family, so instead I will congratulate Michael Phelps on his 8-medal win (that was pretty much all I saw in the past couple weeks, but it's great to see a record-breaking moment like that). And now, here are the lines for this Saturday night with the premiere of Morobito (so far it reminds me of a Miyazaki film):




Shin Chan
Gundamitzi: Obey me, you ungrateful b*****d!
Hiro Yuy: Respect me you b****y helpful b****!
Gundamom: All right, jerk, you drove me to this!
(defeats Hiro Yuy)
Mitzi: Hiro, you have so much to learn when it comes to an imaginary giant robot war.
Shin: Did I hear pretend robot rockets?
(Goes without saying, but I made up those names myself:D)

Bleach
Kenpachi: You live like an ivy vine; you can only survive by clinging onto the trees, depending on them. That’s your flaw. Put down some roots so someday you can stand on your own!
(Cold!)

Code Geass
Zero: Kyoshiro Tohdoh, the only Japanese who seven years ago brought the mighty Britannian forces to their knees in defeat.
Tohdoh: You mean Itsukushima? You want me to perform a miracle for you as well?
Zero: That was no miracle. It ended in victory because it was based on excellent intelligence work. That’s why I want you.
Todoh: I pledged my loyalty to General Katase. Now that he’s dead, I wish to die too.
Zero: Don’t be a coward!
Tohdoh: What?!
Zero: You must take responsibility—responsibility for the miracle that you made!
(A Bosch character and a Blum character talking to each other? Haven't seen that since Trigun ep 5 when Vash fought the Nebraska Brothers)

Morobito
Balsa: Majesty, you asked me earlier of all the professions I could choose, why I would choose a bodyguard. Here’s why. For certain reasons, I once took the lives of eight people who I considered to be very dear. And so, to appease the souls of those eight people, I continue working as a bodyguard. And I will until I have saved eight lives that are equal to theirs’.
…
Queen: Balsa! If you include my son’s life, how many lives will you have managed to save?
Balsa: Your son’s life will be the eighth, Your Majesty.

[Mugen]

The ATHF movie didn't do any better than the regular line-up. Olympics could be blamed though.

So, what are the Saturday and Sunday charts?

Yeah, the Olympics destroyed many things on TV, so AS isn't the only one affected.

[The Tyrant]

Yes, it's a well-established fact that comedy does no better than the anime on Saturday(short of FG airing and that obviously isn't going to happen). That's why it really irritates me when AS screws with a line-up that was doing fine to once again throw on more comedies that fail even worse than anime. It's all comedy all the time for the rest of the week, what's so wrong about letting anime have Saturday? It's just very frustrating.

Also, thank god I visit this board or I would have had no idea Moribito was airing last night. I wonder how many other people knew.:shrug:

I didn't and my freind didn't know what Morbito is or that it was even airing and he watches AS. I guess he missed the bumps? I don't know. I know Master Moron saw the card for it, but if I were still a casual viewer chances are I wouldn't watch the show simply because I don't know what it is about assuming I even catch the card. I watched Trinity Blood even though I didn't know what it was because of the ad for it. Hell, I really liked Trinity Blood and got into the manga for it because of the anime.

[CartoonSwim69]

So, what are the Saturday and Sunday charts?

Yeah, the Olympics destroyed many things on TV, so AS isn't the only one affected.

Saturday
ATHF Movie- 289,000
Shin Chan (4am)- 249,000
ATHF Movie (2am)- 245,000

Sunday
Family Guy (11pm)- 918,000
American Dad- 722,000
Venture Bros- 596,000

[The Tyrant]

Saturday
ATHF Movie- 289,000
Shin Chan (4am)- 249,000
ATHF Movie (2am)- 245,000

Sunday
Family Guy (11pm)- 918,000
American Dad- 722,000
Venture Bros- 596,000


FG didn't take that large of a blow compared to Box Office weekend.

[TacoHunter]

The reason why I assume AS doesn't advertise anime is simple. Anime fans are a bit more hardcore and so usually read up news sites on Anime and learn about the new stuff from word of mouth.

While your average Joe Blow who watches Family Guy doesn't like anime, so seeing an advertisement for Moribito, they wouldn't give it a second thought. Because its targeting a different demographic it makes it harder to advertise the new anime.

Like a niche video game, wasting money advertising won't help sell, Super Robot Taisen and it won't help people watch Moribito. So then what do you do? Do you waste money on advetisments that won't help out, or do you just expect the fans to do their word of mouth thing and save the day?

[Wounded_Dragon]

Doesn't stop them from trying to get that niche to watch their comedies.

[TacoHunter]

Doesn't stop them from trying to get that niche to watch their comedies.

To be fair, that niche probably does watch their comedies.

[The Collector]

The reason why I assume AS doesn't advertise anime is simple. Anime fans are a bit more hardcore and so usually read up news sites on Anime and learn about the new stuff from word of mouth.

While your average Joe Blow who watches Family Guy doesn't like anime, so seeing an advertisement for Moribito, they wouldn't give it a second thought. Because its targeting a different demographic it makes it harder to advertise the new anime.

Like a niche video game, wasting money advertising won't help sell, Super Robot Taisen and it won't help people watch Moribito. So then what do you do? Do you waste money on advetisments that won't help out, or do you just expect the fans to do their word of mouth thing and save the day?

The way I see it, all anime fans were once your average Joe Blow, then they found something they enjoyed in the medium and became fans. AS has apparently decided that the shows they have will not turn any of their casual viewers into fans of those shows and won't even bother attempting it. If that's the case then all I have to say is why the hell did they even get the shows in the first place? If they don't expect anyone to watch them, then it's the height of stupidity to go after them. Perhaps AS should get a show or two that they think might actually do well in the ratings, unless they don't think one exists.

[Beat]

Not really. There's a definitive disconnect between the fandoms.

[Master Moron]

While your average Joe Blow who watches Family Guy doesn't like anime, so seeing an advertisement for Moribito, they wouldn't give it a second thought. Because its targeting a different demographic it makes it harder to advertise the new anime.


It's not targeting a different demographic. It's targeting the same 18-34 demographic. There are many people who watch anime that also watch the Family Guy. In addition, anime fans are made, not born. I'm sure many of the people who watch anime on Saturdays only found out about anime after watching the comedy shows. As for the average Family Guy fan not giving an ad for Moribito a second thought, that's why they need to market the anime better. They need ads that will make casual viewers give the show a second thought. Remember how Spike advertised Afro Samurai? They didn't even mention it was anime. The ads just showed how cool it was and people who weren't fans of anime tuned in.

To be fair, that niche probably does watch their comedies.

Thank you for proving my point. If anime fans also watch Family Guy, then why wouldn't ads for the anime during Family Guy catch their attention?

[Ahiru-kun]

The way I see it, all anime fans were once your average Joe Blow, then they found something they enjoyed in the medium and became fans. AS has apparently decided that the shows they have will not turn any of their casual viewers into fans of those shows and won't even bother attempting it. If that's the case then all I have to say is why the hell did they even get the shows in the first place? If they don't expect anyone to watch them, then it's the height of stupidity to go after them. Perhaps AS should get a show or two that they think might actually do well in the ratings, unless they don't think one exists.

There are very few anime nowadays that can appeal to a broad American adult audience. The only type of shows I can think of that do are slice of life comedies, and most of those can air on CN.

It's not targeting a different demographic. It's targeting the same 18-34 demographic. There are many people who watch anime that also watch the Family Guy. In addition, anime fans are made, not born. I'm sure many of the people who watch anime on Saturdays only found out about anime after watching the comedy shows. As for the average Family Guy fan not giving an ad for Moribito a second thought, that's why they need to market the anime better. They need ads that will make casual viewers give the show a second thought. Remember how Spike advertised Afro Samurai? They didn't even mention it was anime. The ads just showed how cool it was and people who weren't fans of anime tuned in.

Most of the anime fans in Adult Swim's target audience became anime fans when they were teenagers. If you're not an anime fan by the time you reach your mid twenties, chances are you never will be.

Also, it helped that Afro Samurai had a big name like Samuel L. Jackson.


Thank you for proving my point. If anime fans also watch Family Guy, then why wouldn't ads for the anime during Family Guy catch their attention?

It's like TacoHunter said. Most anime fans don't really need television advertisements to find out when a new show is premiering.

But none of this really matters. As I said before, the problem is that AS is airing anime on Saturday. If their comedies shows that they advertise like crazy can't do well, what hope is there for anime? AS could get almost double the audience for anime on a weekday.

[The Collector]

There are very few anime nowadays that can appeal to a broad American adult audience. The only type of shows I can think of that do are slice of life comedies, and most of those can air on CN.

That right there has always confused me about anime on AS. Why does the show have to be brand new over here for there to be any chance of it getting on the air? If there isn't much with wide ranging appeal coming out today, why not look at what has been out for a few years. New does not automatically equal better.

AS could get almost double the audience for anime on a weekday.

This I do not doubt.

[Master Moron]

It's like TacoHunter said. Most anime fans don't really need television advertisements to find out when a new show is premiering.


Look in the Moribito thread. You'll see plenty of people who didn't know it was airing and missed it. If members of Toonzone missed it due to lack of advertising, I have no doubt that many more people missed it due to lack of advertising.

[TacoHunter]

Look in the Moribito thread. You'll see plenty of people who didn't know it was airing and missed it. If members of Toonzone missed it due to lack of advertising, I have no doubt that many more people missed it due to lack of advertising.

Well...you also see a few people posting they didn't miss it simply because of Toonzone. So my point stands, they heard about it for this site. Thus, showing that advertising wouldn't have changed very much.

[TacoHunter]

That right there has always confused me about anime on AS. Why does the show have to be brand new over here for there to be any chance of it getting on the air? If there isn't much with wide ranging appeal coming out today, why not look at what has been out for a few years. New does not automatically equal better.

And this while I think might be an alright idea. I think looking forward is a better idea. There is always good stuff coming down the pipe.

Anyway, what would they show? Ranma 1/2, Blue Seed, Bubblegum Crisis? A lot of this stuff, it honestly hasn't aged very well.

No one watched the original Gundam, which is sad, because I sure didn't want to buy the DVDs with only the english dub at the time. But a lot of classic stuff just doesn't do very well.

Or how about Lupin III. I love Lupin, but I'm not sure how well it did in the ratings. I really wish it took off, so we could have gotten a few movies and more series out of it.

[Beat]

AS could get almost double the audience for anime on a weekday.

Probably triple in Bleach's case.

The problem here is simple. AS overestimated the anime audience and continued to air shows like Moribito and Death Note when they probably would have been better served just airing something like Desert Punk. Something big, bombastic, full of cheap ASC style humor, and ultimately easy to get into.

[Scirel]

Probably triple in Bleach's case.

The problem here is simple. AS overestimated the anime audience and continued to air shows like Moribito and Death Note when they probably would have been better served just airing something like Desert Punk. Something big, bombastic, full of cheap ASC style humor, and ultimately easy to get into.


To a better end, One "death Note" like show at a time would be best, as long as it is backed by two "Bleaches". FMA/GITS did this and it got the best ratings for saturday other than the futurama marathon.

I like Code Geas, but i's porblem is that it is an anime that really appeals only to people who already like anime. It won`t bring any 'outsiders' in. Ironically, death note would have the desired effect, but no advertising kills it just as much as the rest of saturday.

[The Tyrant]

That right there has always confused me about anime on AS. Why does the show have to be brand new over here for there to be any chance of it getting on the air? If there isn't much with wide ranging appeal coming out today, why not look at what has been out for a few years. New does not automatically equal better.

A lot of newer anime would appeal to broader American audiences they just aren't selected, have not been licensed, or very racy. Some really good stuff is coming out like the new FMA series(A long ways away, but still).

Many of the larger names have already been licensed are or have aired on another network.

[Mugen]

Week of 8/18-8/24:

Household Viewers: 942,000(#6 for cable)

Total Day Viewers: 1,098,000(#6 for cable)






18-34: 414,000(#1 for cable)


- Family Guy: 1,118,000 18-34(#7 for cable)

- Robot Chicken: 1,090,000 18-34(#8 for cable)

- Family Guy: 998,000 18-34(#9 for cable)

- Family Guy: 994,000 18-34(#10 for cable)


18-49: 531,000(#5 for cable)




25-54: 313,000(#9 for cable)


Wow, the ratings made a rebound from the week before, even with the second week of the Summer Olympics still airing.


The kid ratings will have to come later.

[Master Moron]

Well...you also see a few people posting they didn't miss it simply because of Toonzone. So my point stands, they heard about it for this site. Thus, showing that advertising wouldn't have changed very much.

Your point doesn't stand, because its irrelevant. It doesn't matter if some people found out about Moribito through Toonzone when many, many more people did not. I'm just not sure how you can saw that advertising wouldn't help just because some people found out about Moribito through Toonzone. That doesn't make any sense. You're ignoring not only the people who visit Toonzone who didn't find out about Moribito, but also, the much, much larger group of people who don't visit Toonzone at all.

[TacoHunter]

Your point doesn't stand, because its irrelevant. It doesn't matter if some people found out about Moribito through Toonzone when many, many more people did not. I'm just not sure how you can saw that advertising wouldn't help just because some people found out about Moribito through Toonzone. That doesn't make any sense. You're ignoring not only the people who visit Toonzone who didn't find out about Moribito, but also, the much, much larger group of people who don't visit Toonzone at all.

Its not about people that just visit Toonzone, its about fans that visit fan sites, like Toonzone or animenewsnetwork or whatever. The fact that MOST fans do actively seek out this content is the reason why there is less reason to advertise about it.

The people that this would appeal to already look for it. And to advertise to them is redundant.

The problem is its much harder to try and advertise to people that would be interested in this, that don't visit fan sites. Do you waste money and advertise everywhere and get a minor boost in ratings? Do you do little advertising and see the same boost in ratings? Or do you do nothing, save money and hope the fans find it on their own?

There really isn't an easy answer here. And what happens if they do a heavy advertising campaign and it fails anyway? Then who do you blame?

[blitzkrieg]

Look in the Moribito thread. You'll see plenty of people who didn't know it was airing and missed it. If members of Toonzone missed it due to lack of advertising, I have no doubt that many more people missed it due to lack of advertising.

Because ToonZone is an accurate representative of the viewing audience?

[Wounded_Dragon]

Because ToonZone is an accurate representative of the viewing audience?

Amusing. One person uses Toon Zone to say that of course fans will visit sites that tell them when anime is shown on AS, and another person holds Toon Zone up as an inaccurate example of the viewing audience. :sweat:

[Beat]

Amusing. One person uses Toon Zone to say that of course fans will visit sites that tell them when anime is shown on AS, and another person holds Toon Zone up as an inaccurate example of the viewing audience. :sweat:

If message boards (not just Toonzone) reflected real viewers, then Venture Brothers would have four times the ratings Family Guy does, and Moribito would get higher ratings than Afro Samurai. You can't compare fan communities where the people tend to know each other with the mass audience. It's not an apt comparison.

[Master Moron]

If message boards (not just Toonzone) reflected real viewers, then Venture Brothers would have four times the ratings Family Guy does, and Moribito would get higher ratings than Afro Samurai. You can't compare fan communities where the people tend to know each other with the mass audience. It's not an apt comparison.

Thank you.

[blitzkrieg]

Amusing. One person uses Toon Zone to say that of course fans will visit sites that tell them when anime is shown on AS, and another person holds Toon Zone up as an inaccurate example of the viewing audience. :sweat:

But just as ToonZone isn't an accurate representation of the whole viewing audience it's not an accurate representation of all anime websites/boards. Just because some people on here missed a show, doesn't mean that's a sign of a larger epidemic.

So while it may seem like I was shooting down the "anime fans learn about things from different avenues besides advertising," I wasn't. I actually agree with the point.

[Master Moron]

But just as ToonZone isn't an accurate representation of the whole viewing audience it's not an accurate representation of all anime websites/boards. Just because some people on here missed a show, doesn't mean that's a sign of a larger epidemic.


Yes, but if a group of people who are generally more knowledgeable about a topic don't know about something in that topic, then the average person is not likely to know. People who visit Toonzone are more likely than an average viewer to know about schedule changes in advance. If some people who visit Toonzone don't know about Moribito, then chances are an average viewer would not.

[The Collector]

Yes, but if a group of people who are generally more knowledgeable about a topic don't know about something in that topic, then the average person is not likely to know. People who visit Toonzone are more likely than an average viewer to know about schedule changes in advance. If some people who visit Toonzone don't know about Moribito, then chances are an average viewer would not.

It seems, despite all the complaining they do about the anime ratings, AS is quite satisfied relying on the already established anime fans to tune in since they make next to no effort to get those average viewers to even take a look at what's on Saturday.

[The Tyrant]

Because ToonZone is an accurate representative of the viewing audience?

What makes you think other boards are? Most sites that I can think of do not make reports on Adult Swim schedule changes and those that have reported Morbito's airing are then quickly flooded with other industry happenings. Not to mention many casual anime fans don't even visit anime forums much less keep track of a specific channel's ADD proned schedule changes.

[Beat]

What makes you think other boards are?

They're not, and that's actually the point of this argument. Message boards may know about Moribito, but no one else does. The same way their opinions do not reflect the majority. Look at Adultswim.com. They absolutely loathed Afro Samurai and Witchblade. Does that mean most of the world does? No.

[blitzkrieg]

To be honest most nerdy, take no offense at the phrase, forms of media get by with limited advertising. Be it comic books, anime, manga, role playing games, fantasy novels, whatever. Most of these get by through either word of mouth or advertising within themselves or magazines dedicated to them.

I think people need to accept that it's not just Adult Swim who hasn't figured out how to bring anime to the mainstream, it's the people that license it in the states and the people that produce it in Japan.

If mainstream American audiences are really what they're after the product is going have to change, the message is going change and the approach to it is going change. Till then all it's going be is a niche.

[Mugen]

I've noticed that AS has been airing the old Bleach promo a couple times lately. I've also seen the Shin-Chan promo air on Thursday during The Boondocks.