C&C - Anything Else [8/17-8/23]

[Mugen]

Welcome to the Anything Else thread! New episodes of the various AS originals continue. Also, we get a premiere of a new anime series, Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit next Saturday.

New Episodes in Lime Green
New Arrivals in Red
Return to Weekday Glory in Orange
Very slight change in time in Light Blue

http://adultswimhq.com/sundays.jpg August 17th
10.00/1.30 Family Guy
10.30/2.00 American Dad
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Venture Bros.
12.00/3.30 Metalocalyspe
12.15/3.45 Fat Guy Stuck in Internet
12.30/4.00 Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!
12.45/4.15 Assy McGee
1.00/4.30 Mission Hill
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha

August 18th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 Stroker & Hoop
5.30 Inuyasha



http://adultswimhq.com/tuesdays.jpg August 19th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 Stroker & Hoop
5.30 Inuyasha



http://adultswimhq.com/wednesdays.jpg August 20th
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 Stroker & Hoop
5.30 Inuyasha


http://adultswimhq.com/thursdays.jpg August 21st
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Family Guy
12.00/3.30 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/4.00 The Boondocks
1.00/4.30 Squidbillies
1.15/4.45 Squidbillies
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 Stroker & Hoop
5.30 Inuyasha



August 22nd
11.00/2.30 Brak Show
11.15/2.45 Brak Show
11.30/3.00 Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
11.45/3.15 Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
12.00/3.30 Sealab 2021
12.15/3.45 Sealab 2021
12.30/4.00 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.45/4.15 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
1.00/4.30 The Oblongs
1.30/5.00 Home Movies
2.00 Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
5.30 Inuyasha


http://adultswimhq.com/saturdays.jpgAugust 23rd
11.00/2.00 Metalocalyspe
11.15/2.15 Metalocalyspe
11.30/2.30 The Venture Bros.
12.00/3.00 Shin-Chan
12.30/3.30 Bleach
01.00/4.00 Code Geass
01.30/4.30 Moribito
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha

[zoombie]

From what I know, Moribitio is very spiritual. If you enjoy a show like Inuyasha, you might enjoy Moribitio.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Saturday, August 9th


Bleach: 370,000
Venture: 282,000
Bebop: 261,000

VB is on saturday?! why was I not informed :crying:


New: All

[Master Moltar]

Well, at least Bleach was able to recover.

[Kitschensyngk]

Finally a Moribito card.

DANG IT SWIM, JUST PUT ACTION ON THURSDAY NIGHTS AND GIVE SATURDAY BACK TO CARTOON NETWORK ALREADY!!!

Seriously. Toonami could use the extra air time.

[Duelist]

Wow, that was a morbid-ass Moribito promotion.

also, i definately though i saw that ratings card say like Bebop and one other show and not even the top one, accompanied by silence and/or crickets.

was i mistaken?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Sunday, August 10th


Family Guy (11:00): 1,090,000
Venture: 672,000
A-Dad: 648,000

looking a little down there :(


Down: All

[Master Moltar]

VB still losing a large chunk of FG's audience...not good.

[Kitschensyngk]

Well, since they have no confidence in it whatsoever...

MORIBITO PREMIERES ON ADULT SWIM SATURDAY @ 1:30AM. TELL YOUR FRIENDS, DRINK SOME COFFEE, PROGRAM YOUR DVR.

[The Collector]

Saturday, August 9th

Bleach: 370,000
Venture: 282,000
Bebop: 261,000VB is on saturday?! why was I not informed :crying:


New: All

I would like to draw your attention to number 1 and number 2 there. If you read between the line you will notice that viewers seem to be going out of their way to avoid Shin Chan, which not something Saturdays can afford to deal with. AS needs to put that show on Sundays or the weekdays because it would have a much better chance of gettings ratings with the people who watch those nights instead of Saturday. Learn something, AS, at least pretend you have some brains in your collective heads.

[Master Moron]

Saturday, August 9th


Bleach: 370,000
Venture: 282,000
Bebop: 261,000

VB is on saturday?! why was I not informed :crying:


Because Adult Swim has this idiotic idea that advertising schedule changes is pointless.

Finally a Moribito card.


That's what we're settling for? A card? We've completely given up all hope that they will advertise the anime at this point, huh? Can you imagine if a major network used Adult Swim's promotion tactics? I mean, imagine if Fox only made one black and white card to promote one of its shows instead of making an actual promo. They'd be the laughing stock of the industry. Seriously, how is someone supposed to know Moribito is on? Even if they happened to be watching Metalocalypse or whatever show the card was shown during, its not like the card told them anything about the show, other than the fact that it will fail. If I didn't visit these forums I'd probably be like "What's Moribito?" and promptly forget about the card.

[Beat]

VB still losing a large chunk of FG's audience...not good.

Karma for the way they've treated all their Saturday releases.

I'd say "Go to Thursday," but what's the point? They just buy the shows to fill up timeslots at this point. Whether they succeed or fail is irrelevant.

[macattack]

The single card is still better than what Sci-fi gives its anime (generic, stupidly-voiced bumps without a hint as to what the content is).

[UmmYeahOk]

Im confused about their "old school" friday line up. SGC@C @ 2am?!? Thats what started adult swim! And doubling up these 15 shows? they have always done well as 15, not 30. Why give them this time now? They should have done SGC2C in the beginning, followed by 15 minutes of one show each, then repeat after it all aired like they usually do

[Beat]

Actually, there have been show specific ads for Gurren Lagann, ones that didn't mock the show. (Comparing Gurren to ASA' new offerings is like comparing ice cream to horse manuer, but I digress)

[macattack]

I hardly think Death Note, Bleach, Code Geass, and ESPECIALLY Moribito are "horse manure" but that's besides the point.

I haven't seen these supposed "ads". When do they air, pray tell?

[Mugen]

I haven't seen these supposed "ads". When do they air, pray tell?

I'm assuming he's talking about the one that Manga Entertainment made that promotes the show being on iTunes now.

[Captain Highwind]

Will Moribito be on ASV like Geass?

[{Shadow}]

Will Moribito be on ASV like Geass?
It's not listed on their ASV schedule, so probably not.

[Wounded_Dragon]

I'm assuming he's talking about the one that Manga Entertainment made that promotes the show being on iTunes now.

Everyone else makes better promos that ASAnime it seems. Why, I remember when GitS first joined the ASA lineup, the commercial for the first dvd release was loads better than the ASA promo for the show. Aired more too.

[J'onn J'onzz]

Im confused about their "old school" friday line up. SGC@C @ 2am?!? Thats what started adult swim! And doubling up these 15 shows? they have always done well as 15, not 30. Why give them this time now? They should have done SGC2C in the beginning, followed by 15 minutes of one show each, then repeat after it all aired like they usually do
I'm just glad they're airing it at all. SGC2C hasn't aired regularly in ages.

[The Tyrant]

I hardly think Death Note, Bleach, Code Geass, and ESPECIALLY Moribito are "horse manure" but that's besides the point.

I haven't seen these supposed "ads". When do they air, pray tell?

Who said they were horse manure?

[J'onn J'onzz]

Who said they were horse manure?
Beat did.

[Kitschensyngk]

Excuse me, time to make my rounds...

MORIBITO, THE ANIME SERIES THAT ADULT SWIM IS CERTAIN YOU WILL NOT WATCH, PREMIERES THIS SATURDAY @ 1:30AM.
THOSE WHO CAN, DO. THOSE WHO CANNOT, TAPE IT.

[Timmay]

In AS's defense, even when they advertised and had promos the ratings were about what they are right now. In fact, barring the incredible ratings that FMA got, ratings for anime have been consistently low.

[PakiroVah]

Jason: My grandpa calls me "Debbie" and tries to kiss me.

:eek:

[Beat]

In AS's defense, even when they advertised and had promos the ratings were about what they are right now. In fact, barring the incredible ratings that FMA got, ratings for anime have been consistently low.

Airing them on Saturdays when the ads make fun of the shows tend to do that.

Moribito, as another slow, dialog heavy show in a long line of failing slow dialog heavy shows, will meet a similar fate.

It's like clockwork.

1. Adult Swim debuts new show. Only problem is, it's a slow, dialog heavy show that people wonder about it succeeding.

2. One week out, one ad appears. Maybe.

3. Comedy marks call it stupid.

4. Anime marks defend the programmer's decision to air it saying that she's a genius and is obviously smarter than us because she works for Turner.

5. Ratings are a catastrophe.

6. Comedy marks call for Adult Swim to go all comedy.

7. Anime marks blame the usual. Lack of ads, horrible timeslot, etc. The general slow nature of the show is never factored in.

Rinse and repeat.

The sole exception in recent times has been Bleach, and I still believe it could get 2-3x its current ratings if it aired Thursday at 11:30 or midnight.

[Beefy]

What kind of promotion did Geass and Moribito ever receive? One measly bump each.

Even when [as] airs the schedule bumps it's only for Sunday, Mon-Thurs, and Friday. They can't even have a card with the Saturday schedule?

Keep acting like Saturdays don't exist and the viewers will not exist.

[macattack]

I truly think all that AS is doing at this point is burning the contracts. Moribito was in the cards for 2007, only Geneon's folding prevented them from airing it that year. This makes Code Geass the only title AS planned to air in 2008 (plus R2 if you want to consider that a seperate series).

Anime's done. Once R2, Moribito, and the current run of Bleach is over Saturdays will likely become a pit of comedy reruns or they'll hand the time to CN . . . which will likely make it a pit of comedy reruns. Unless, of course, in the off chance they feel like having Toonami take up some of the time.

[herbkir]

If the [AS] folks really believed that running comedy on Saturdays would materially improve their ratings, anime would be long gone, and they wouldn't have bought Geass R2 and Moribito at all.

While the young-adult anime fans may be fewer in number compared to comedy, they offer some things comedy fans don't -- they are loyal and very vocal.

Barring the occasional mega-event in the outside world, the 18-34 anime fans turn up weekend after weekend, around 300K of them, on a TV night generally kissed off as a lost cause by just about all broadcast and cable networks.

And they are vocal. On the ASMB, their posting volume in the action folder is more than three times greater than in the comedy folder. They also talk about [AS] on other animation fansites, such as this one.

If [AS] did decide to quit running anime, they'd lose a loyal fanbase without really gaining more comedy fans. And the ASMB discussions related to the block itself would probably fall off substantially.

I'd like to see the [AS]/CN advertising salespeople start courting the publishers/distributors of anime and manga. Although even Saturday ad rates on [AS] might be pricey for them, they'd be displaying their wares in front of a concentrated and receptive fan audience interested in exactly what these folks are selling. I've often wondered why there's so little advertising of anime and manga stuff during anime blocks anywhere on TV. (^_*)

[Beat]

I truly think all that AS is doing at this point is burning the contracts. Moribito was in the cards for 2007, only Geneon's folding prevented them from airing it that year. This makes Code Geass the only title AS planned to air in 2008 (plus R2 if you want to consider that a seperate series).

Anime's done. Once R2, Moribito, and the current run of Bleach is over Saturdays will likely become a pit of comedy reruns or they'll hand the time to CN . . . which will likely make it a pit of comedy reruns. Unless, of course, in the off chance they feel like having Toonami take up some of the time.

If nothing else, that would confirm my theory that Kim Manning was a total failure of a programmer, and it'd give a slight hope to Bleach on Sci-fi.

They drove the viewers off by constantly saying how lame anime was and how stupid its fans are (compared to the intellects that find Tim and Eric funny). It's too late for AS, hopefully Sci-fi doesn't screw it up.

[Timmay]

Airing them on Saturdays when the ads make fun of the shows tend to do that.

Moribito, as another slow, dialog heavy show in a long line of failing slow dialog heavy shows, will meet a similar fate.

It's like clockwork.

1. Adult Swim debuts new show. Only problem is, it's a slow, dialog heavy show that people wonder about it succeeding.

2. One week out, one ad appears. Maybe.

3. Comedy marks call it stupid.

4. Anime marks defend the programmer's decision to air it saying that she's a genius and is obviously smarter than us because she works for Turner.

5. Ratings are a catastrophe.

6. Comedy marks call for Adult Swim to go all comedy.

7. Anime marks blame the usual. Lack of ads, horrible timeslot, etc. The general slow nature of the show is never factored in.

Rinse and repeat.

The sole exception in recent times has been Bleach, and I still believe it could get 2-3x its current ratings if it aired Thursday at 11:30 or midnight.

I do think you're the only person that's bothered by the few jokes that the cards make (most of them amount to "oh yeah, ratings suck for anime"). Lighten up, I don't really think anybody has been offended by AS cards.

And point me in the direction of a non-dialogue heavy adult anime. Adult anime in Japan is rare enough as it is. Basically the only "adult" options are shows that have serious graphic content (either extreme fanservice or extreme violence) or are intended to make you think more than entertain you.

[Wounded_Dragon]

I do think you're the only person that's bothered by the few jokes that the cards make (most of them amount to "oh yeah, ratings suck for anime"). Lighten up, I don't really think anybody has been offended by AS cards.


He's not. The rest of us just got tired of mentioning it.

[Timmay]

He's not. The rest of us just got tired of mentioning it.
Then you're touchy and deserve to be made fun of.

[The Collector]

Then you're touchy and deserve to be made fun of.

That's cute. Because people don't like being made fun of, they deserve to be made fun of. Some amazing logic right there.

[Wounded_Dragon]

Then you're touchy and deserve to be made fun of.

Were you a bully in school?

[The Tyrant]

And point me in the direction of a non-dialogue heavy adult anime. Adult anime in Japan is rare enough as it is. Basically the only "adult" options are shows that have serious graphic content (extreme violence) or are intended to make you think more than entertain you.

It's what William Street typically produces and airs.

Not really, there may be more Shonen anime than adult anime, but they are far from rare. I will agree that the bumps about anime sucking or whatever aren't a huge deal, but Manning should have focused on more action packed anime than dialog heavy ones like Paranoia Agent. Thier age demographic isn't a huge issue considering Inuyasha skewed young, but did well.

[Beat]

Then you're touchy and deserve to be made fun of.

Adult Swim logic at work ladies and gentlemen.

And my problem with it is simple. You can't go "This show sucks" and expect people to watch it. See how popular Tim and Eric or Venture Brothers would be if Williams Street made fun of the shows and their creators.

[jbanks97]

Adult Swim logic at work ladies and gentlemen.

And my problem with it is simple. You can't go "This show sucks" and expect people to watch it. See how popular Tim and Eric or Venture Brothers would be if Williams Street made fun of the shows and their creators.


Ahh ....it's good to see somethings never change....:D

[RomanMack]

The shows would get crappy ratings either way, so they might as well have fun with poking at the shows and it's fans if the end result will be the same.

It's funny to me, regardless. :p

[Wounded_Dragon]

The shows would get crappy ratings either way, so they might as well have fun with poking at the shows and it's fans if the end result will be the same.

It's funny to me, regardless. :p

Yes, I've seen people laughing when they pick on small children too.

[Timmay]

It's what William Street typically produces and airs.

Not really, there may be more Shonen anime than adult anime, but they are far from rare. I will agree that the bumps about anime sucking or whatever aren't a huge deal, but Manning should have focused on more action packed anime than dialog heavy ones like Paranoia Agent. Thier age demographic isn't a huge issue considering Inuyasha skewed young, but did well.

what action-packed anime?

where?

Name some series. Please adhere to Beat's unholy standards of an action anime.

Beat do you even like anime?

Yes, I've seen people laughing when they pick on small children too.
are you putting fans on the level of small children here? honestly, the reason I said that was because if you're bothered by some light mockery ("Inuyasha! Kagome!" comes to mind) and a negative attitude about the ratings, you need to develop a sense of humor.

[Master Moron]

In AS's defense, even when they advertised and had promos the ratings were about what they are right now. In fact, barring the incredible ratings that FMA got, ratings for anime have been consistently low.

No, they weren't. Cowboy Bebop, Inu-yasha, Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist, Ghost in the Shell, and FLCL all got pretty good ratings back in the days that they actually advertised their shows. Yes, a lot of the shows got poor ratings despite advertising(Wolf's Rain, Witch Hunter Robin), but advertising is only part of the equation. Advertising doesn't guarantee a shows success, but not advertising guarantees a failure. I mean, has there ever been a hit show in the history of television that became a hit with no marketing of any kind?


And they are vocal. On the ASMB, their posting volume in the action folder is more than three times greater than in the comedy folder. They also talk about [AS] on other animation fansites, such as this one.

If [AS] did decide to quit running anime, they'd lose a loyal fanbase without really gaining more comedy fans. And the ASMB discussions related to the block itself would probably fall off substantially.


Adult Swim doesn't make any money off of fans posting on message boards

I do think you're the only person that's bothered by the few jokes that the cards make (most of them amount to "oh yeah, ratings suck for anime"). Lighten up, I don't really think anybody has been offended by AS cards.


It's not about being offended. It's about getting people to watch the shows. If Fox advertised a new show by telling you how much it sucks and that the fans of it are nerds, would that make you want to watch it? "Coming this January, for all you nerds who liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and you dorks who watched Firefly, comes a new show from the guy who made both of those geeky shows: Dollhouse. You losers won't want to miss this show!" I would still watch the show even if they advertised it like this, since I loved Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but would people who aren't familiar with Joss Whedon want to watch this show if that's the way they advertised it?

[RomanMack]

I would. I would think the promo is funny and therefore be interested.

[Beat]

It's not about being offended. It's about getting people to watch the shows. If Fox advertised a new show by telling you how much it sucks and that the fans of it are nerds, would that make you want to watch it? "Coming this January, for all you nerds who liked Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and you dorks who watched Firefly, comes a new show from the guy who made both of those geeky shows: Dollhouse. You losers won't want to miss this show!" I would still watch the show even if they advertised it like this, since I loved Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but would people who aren't familiar with Joss Whedon want to watch this show if that's the way they advertised it?

That's my point, especially when they go on about how other shows are awesome.

"Hold on Johnny Quest fans!" (All four of you) "From Jackson Q. Publik comes the newest season of Venture Brothers!"

(Shots of the Ventures being idiots)

"Premering Saturday at 1:30am."

Now imagine this ad airing one week before the show debut.

[Timmay]

That's my point, especially when they go on about how other shows are awesome.

"Hold on Johnny Quest fans!" (All four of you) "From Jackson Q. Publik comes the newest season of Venture Brothers!"

(Shots of the Ventures being idiots)

"Premering Saturday at 1:30am."

Now imagine this ad airing one week before the show debut.
Hundreds of thousands of viewers turn off their television in disgust over an adult swim card.

Yeah, I believe it.

Beat, name some anime you think would bring ratings on AS, I'm curious.

[Beat]

Hundreds of thousands of viewers turn off their television in disgust over an adult swim card.

Yeah, I believe it.

No, but do you think new viewers would want to watch it?

I'm sick of people defending Adult Swim's stupidity. That's why I stopped going to the official boards.

[Kitschensyngk]

Forgot to do this last night...

THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL GIVE A FLIP FOR ADULT SWIM ACTION (BECAUSE ADULT SWIM SURE DOESN'T) CATCH THE PREMIERE OF MORIBITO THIS SATURDAY @ 1:30AM.

[D Dubbs]

Adult Swim doesn't make any money off of fans posting on message boards

Of course they do. If people visit and spend time on the boards, then [as] will get revenue from online advertisers.

[UmmYeahOk]

Plus CN/AS employees, as well as anyone involved in the making of any show that airs posts on there... ...of course they're going to like what airs.

[Mugen]

Week of 8/11-8/17:

Household Viewers: 863,000(#5 for cable)

Total Day Viewers: 982,000(#7 for cable)






18-34: 354,000(#2 for cable)

- Family Guy: 918,000 18-34(#10 for cable)






18-49: 465,000(#6 for cable)




25-54: 288,000(#9 for cable)


The ratings took a hit last week, probably due to the Summer Olympics. AS wasn't number one with 18-34 last week. No, Nick at Nite didn't beat them out. Instead it was Nickelodeon that was number one with the age group(371,000 18-34). Just amazing.:sweat:


Here are the kid ratings:

2-11: 201,000
6-11: 162,000
9-14: 192,000

It was down, probably due to the Olympics.

[Master Moron]

That's my point, especially when they go on about how other shows are awesome.

"Hold on Johnny Quest fans!" (All four of you) "From Jackson Q. Publik comes the newest season of Venture Brothers!"

(Shots of the Ventures being idiots)

"Premering Saturday at 1:30am."

Now imagine this ad airing one week before the show debut.

Well, in that situation the ads would make less of a difference since Venture Brothers already has three seasons. Its fans already know what it's about. However, when advertising a new show, that strategy does not work, since the viewer's first impression would be the ad.

18-34: 354,000(#2 for cable)


Hey, weren't these about what the ratings were back when they had anime on weekdays? If the ratings stay this low I wonder if they'll consider bringing anime back to weekdays? Oh, who am I kidding, if the ratings stay this low, they'll just add more episodes of Family Guy to the schedule.

[Alien #2]

Just curious, anyone else catch that snippet of Inu-Yasha they aired after the first rerun of Robot Chicken (or was it Squidbillies, I can't recall). Someone's finger must've slipped. ;)

[Beat]

what action-packed anime?

where?

Name some series. Please adhere to Beat's unholy standards of an action anime.

Beat do you even like anime?

Of course I do. I just think the best anime to have aired this year wasn't on Adult Swim, save Death Note. Then again, I'm torn with Death Note. I personally thought it was an intelligent thriller, but I knew from Day 1 it would bomb on Adult Swim. For the most part, Gurren Lagann, Black Lagoon, Desert Punk, Witchblade, and all the other stuff I've really liked hasn't aired on Adult Swim.



Not really, there may be more Shonen anime than adult anime, but they are far from rare. I will agree that the bumps about anime sucking or whatever aren't a huge deal, but Manning should have focused on more action packed anime than dialog heavy ones like Paranoia Agent. Thier age demographic isn't a huge issue considering Inuyasha skewed young, but did well.

Exactly. Paranoia Agent chased viewers away more than anything. I will believe it forever.

[jbanks97]

Exactly. Paranoia Agent chased viewers away more than anything. I will believe it forever.

I have no doubt you'll continue to believe whatever you want to believe despite any and all evidence to the contrary. And that nothing I say will stop you from your 7 year quest to prove "adult swim and specifically kim manning are stupid"

But really-REALLY Beat?
a 13 episode series that was pushed to 1:30 after like 6 episodes?? A series that had considerable support in this forum?? A series that made such an impression I barely remember most of?
This chased more viewers away than anything?

[J'onn J'onzz]

I agree that it's the lack of advertising's fault. Remember when AS randomly made Bleach ads about a year ago? And then the show's ratings went up almost immediately? Why don't they do that now? Has Code Geass had a single ad? Moribito sure as hell hasn't.

[UmmYeahOk]

Why advertise a show? As long as they are getting plenty of money from ad space, theres no reason to. I mean think about it. Youve got a show thats picking up 300k viewers. Youve got tons of companies wanting to pay you to run their ad. You can either air a FREE promo, which may possibly gain a few more viewers, or use that time to sell to someone else

[Master Moron]

I agree that it's the lack of advertising's fault. Remember when AS randomly made Bleach ads about a year ago? And then the show's ratings went up almost immediately? Why don't they do that now? Has Code Geass had a single ad? Moribito sure as hell hasn't.

Whenever someone asks about this they usually say "Ads don't help...blah, blah, blah...marketing research...blah, blah, blah...viewers don't know what they're talking about...blah, blah, blah..."

Why advertise a show? As long as they are getting plenty of money from ad space, theres no reason to. I mean think about it. Youve got a show thats picking up 300k viewers. Youve got tons of companies wanting to pay you to run their ad. You can either air a FREE promo, which may possibly gain a few more viewers, or use that time to sell to someone else

Define plenty? Because they can't charge too much for ads if they're only getting 300 thousand viewers.

[Kitschensyngk]

Well, at least there's good old fashioned word of mouth, for whatever good that does.

MORIBITO. SATURDAY. 1:30AM.
THIS IS ITS FIRST TIME ON AMERICAN TELEVISION, SO LET'S MAKE IT FEEL WELCOME.

[Mr. Ralph]

dude can you stop doing that please??? that's getting kind of annoying and you've done it a few times already.

[Speedy Boris]

dude can you stop doing that please??? that's getting kind of annoying and you've done it a few times already. Agreed. Please put that in your sig (and not that big of font, either).

[UmmYeahOk]

Define plenty? Because they can't charge too much for ads if they're only getting 300 thousand viewers.

Well there are two ways networks sell ad space. The first way is by selling them a specific time slot. These are based on time of day and number of viewers. This is why ad space during the super bowl costs millions of dollars for just a single 30 seconds.

The other way they sell ad space is completely random. In other words you can pay considerably less to air your commercial at a time CN/AS has a vacancy. Meaning, their deadline is here, and they werent able to sell enough expensive spots during peak hours. They'll stick your ad in to fill the gap. But you always run the risk of having your ad air at 2 in the morning, since even less air time is purchased then. This may explain why late at night you see more local ads, and poorer quality ads.

Now, if I were a programmer, I wouldnt want to give these cheapskates a break like that, Id rather much air a promo for a CN original, because I get paid for that ad no matter when I air it, and this way I get to promote CN product to a huge audience. Late at night when AS airs, Im going to stick all the cheap random ads there. If I still have space, I'm going to air a promo for an AS original (which of course, isnt anime)

You promote you own shows before you promote someone elses. Now I understand how messed up that is because if you pay for syndication, you want people to see it, therefore, SHOULDNT you promote it? Very rarely do cable networks do. They buy it mostly to fill in gaps, and to gain an audience. AS is confusing because their syndicated shows target a different audience. An audience that has no interested in WS BS. But with most cable networks, somehow you discover your show is airing, so you watch. Youre more likely going to see the show that comes before and after it which is their originals. Pretty soon, your show disappears. And while you may have stopped watching, they still had gained viewers

[Draft]

Bad news to all cable-less Venture Brothers fans

looks like the Season Finallie will not be streamed this week, as they've uploaded everything else but Venture.

I'm ticked off because I won't be home to watch the episode, so I guess i'll have to buy it on iTunes or something like that

[Captain Highwind]

Bad news to all cable-less Venture Brothers fans

looks like the Season Finallie will not be streamed this week, as they've uploaded everything else but Venture.

I'm ticked off because I won't be home to watch the episode, so I guess i'll have to buy it on iTunes or something like that

They're killin' me.

EDIT: Oh no they're not. It's on there.

[Mugen]

Animation Insider reports on Adult Swim's second quarter ratings: (http://www.animationinsider.net/article.php?articleID=1818&document=3)

Adult Swim:
Adult Swim managed to retain its title, as per usual, with its core adult male audience, throughout the Quarter; maintaining its hold as the most visited standard cable channel specifically for Adults 18-34. According to Cartoon Network/Adult Swim ratings analysis, the animation and live-action network remains the place to be for men's wandering eyes late into weekday and oftentimes weekend evenings.

In other areas of analysis, Adult Swim ranked #6 in April 2008, in terms of Total Viewership, among all cable networks through Total Program Day. The ratings share average was 0.9, an audience of 932,000. The following month, Adult Swim fared even better, ranking #5 in all of cable, pulling in an average Total Viewership of slightly over one million. (These ratings and audience numbers are coverage ratings that reflect the network's average, quantifiable, household percentile.)

Adult Swim certainly managed to keep the fight for the Adults 18-49 demographic competitive (with Nickelodeon) specifically for the month of May 2008 (Total Program Day). After typically ranking a spot or two lower in terms of audience delivery earned, Adult Swim actually beat out Nickelodeon in the third week of the month. Having since lost a wide margin of viewers from this particular group of interest over the past Quarter of analysis, it appears the late night channel is resourceful, remaining active in seeking out the viewers that matter.

Adult Swim ranked, in terms of Total Viewership of the Total Programming Day, within the top five of all cable networks for the Second Quarter. The channel came in at #5 with the ratings average of 0.9 (1,039,000). (These ratings and audience numbers are coverage ratings that reflect the network's average, quantifiable, household percentile.)

Kid viewers for the adult television channel continued to drop out, throughout Second Quarter 2008. However irrelevant, the Kids 6-11 audience delivery plummeted -44% (April), -36% (May), and -33% (June), for each month in this past Quarter.


Basically, AS had a good second quarter, due to weekdays switching to all-comedy.

[Kiryu]

Everyone knows slower paced, dialog heavy shows that have snippets of intense action here and there are total ratings bombs. Must be why The Sopranos, Lost, 24, Star Trek: TNG and shows along those lines were so unpopular and got such horrible ratings. Wait, what?

[Beat]

Everyone knows slower paced, dialog heavy shows that have snippets of intense action here and there are total ratings bombs. Must be why The Sopranos, Lost, 24, Star Trek: TNG and shows along those lines were so unpopular and got such horrible ratings. Wait, what?

Tony Soprano never played philoshoper and didn't speak in psychobabble..

[Kiryu]

no but his therapist did for long segments at a time!

[J'onn J'onzz]

I love that AS is airing this stuff on Friday nights. It's great seeing these shows on the air again.

[Light Ichigo]

The CN logo came on for 3 seconds during the Brak Show last night.

[The Tyrant]

what action-packed anime?

where?.

Bleach isn't an action packed anime? Because I think Beat's standards measure up to that.

Basically, AS had a good second quarter, due to weekdays switching to all-comedy.

Before the switch were all of AS top tier comdies on the weekdays with two episodes of Family guy in front? I don't remember.

[UmmYeahOk]

Animation Insider reports on Adult Swim's second quarter ratings: (http://www.animationinsider.net/article.php?articleID=1818&document=3)




Basically, AS had a good second quarter, due to weekdays switching to all-comedy.

I would have to argue what they consider "comedy." Just because its American made, with very few action, doesnt make it comedy. This is something AS doesnt quite understand with their original series.... ...although seeing my male coworkers laugh non stop watching Tim and Eric on as.com makes me realize that boys are stupid!!! I mean, it is possible that males 18-35 can be "men" but those who are still "boys" seem to like these shows, and AS could care less about anyone else. They dont care what women at all. And what male population they are after, seem to be a very dumb niche. A group of people who dont have money to buy the things advertised. Those who do, only do because they still live with their parents.

AS could be #1, if they would think bigger, and try to attract viewers of different genders and intelligence levels. I cant even remember the last time Ive actually watched AS as a channel

[Master Moron]

I would have to argue what they consider "comedy." Just because its American made, with very few action, doesnt make it comedy. This is something AS doesnt quite understand with their original series.... ...although seeing my male coworkers laugh non stop watching Tim and Eric on as.com makes me realize that boys are stupid!!! I mean, it is possible that males 18-35 can be "men" but those who are still "boys" seem to like these shows, and AS could care less about anyone else. They dont care what women at all. And what male population they are after, seem to be a very dumb niche. A group of people who dont have money to buy the things advertised. Those who do, only do because they still live with their parents.


That's right Adult Swim. You heard it here first. Real men don't watch Tim and Eric. If you watch Tim and Eric you will be labeled as immature and will never get laid again. You know, I'd love it if people started putting profiles on dating sites that said their matches "must not like Tim and Eric." Then again, most people probably don't know who Tim and Eric are so they'd be very confused.

[Mavericker]

Assy Mcgee is way too trigger-happy. A lot of innocent people get shot.

I don't like the fact he shot his partner's son and abused the kid. That was mean-spirited and that made me angry. That's what I didn't like about Mcgee. :mad:

[UmmYeahOk]

That's right Adult Swim. You heard it here first. Real men don't watch Tim and Eric. If you watch Tim and Eric you will be labeled as immature and will never get laid again. You know, I'd love it if people started putting profiles on dating sites that said their matches "must not like Tim and Eric." Then again, most people probably don't know who Tim and Eric are so they'd be very confused.

Actually, Im sure if someone admitted to liking that show, it definitely would be a big turn off. Just like with Sponge Bob, I'd ask "Why do you like that show?" 80% of the time I get "I dont know." That 20% answers "because its stupid." They like it because its stupid? Why arent these people watching Ren & Stimpy?!? At least the animation and character design is good. My only conclusions is its midnight, theyre stoned, and need something with bright pretty colors to watch. Why they dont bother with nicktoons, boomerang, or toon disney is beyond me :confused: If anything, Id figure theyd love anime :confused:

I shouldnt have to resort to illegal activities in order to enjoy a network. You know what AS has got me doing? Ive been watching nick at night!!! :eek: Thats right!!!

[jbanks97]

Actually, Im sure if someone admitted to liking that show, it definitely would be a big turn off. Just like with Sponge Bob, I'd ask "Why do you like that show?" 80% of the time I get "I dont know." That 20% answers "because its stupid." They like it because its stupid? Why arent these people watching Ren & Stimpy?!? At least the animation and character design is good. My only conclusions is its midnight, theyre stoned, and need something with bright pretty colors to watch. Why they dont bother with nicktoons, boomerang, or toon disney is beyond me :confused: If anything, Id figure theyd love anime :confused:

I shouldnt have to resort to illegal activities in order to enjoy a network. You know what AS has got me doing? Ive been watching nick at night!!! :eek: Thats right!!!


Wow
Believe me "comedy facist" isn't exactly a big turn on for guys either.

[UmmYeahOk]

Wow
Believe me "comedy facist" isn't exactly a big turn on for guys either.

Yes, but in order to have comedy fascism one must first have comedy

[Speedy Boris]

Actually, Im sure if someone admitted to liking that show, it definitely would be a big turn off. Just like with Sponge Bob, I'd ask "Why do you like that show?" 80% of the time I get "I dont know." That 20% answers "because its stupid." They like it because its stupid? Why arent these people watching Ren & Stimpy?!? At least the animation and character design is good. My only conclusions is its midnight, theyre stoned, and need something with bright pretty colors to watch. Why they dont bother with nicktoons, boomerang, or toon disney is beyond me :confused: If anything, Id figure theyd love anime :confused: I could give real reasons why I like SpongeBob, but this thread isn't the place for it.

[Master Moron]

Wow
Believe me "comedy facist" isn't exactly a big turn on for guys either.

I get turned on just listening to women bash Tim and Eric.