C&C - Code Geass - "Nunnally Held Hostage" [8/9]

[bigdeath]

Last time: Mao goes wild.

This episode: Err, I think the title is self explanatory. Really, why do the titles need to be such spoilers.

Oh, and this episode we learn that Susaku is EMO. :D

[TacoHunter]

If Lelouch could use Geass on Moa this whole time, why didn't he sooner?

A fun episode. Reminds me why I like the series. No cringe worthy moments. And we get to learn a bit more about Kururugi. I just hope he doesn't get too emo, I hate it when mecha pilots do that, but it seems to be the cliche of the genre.

[bigdeath]

If Lelouch could use Geass on Moa this whole time, why didn't he sooner?


Because Mao had that visor on which covered his eyes. When Susake punched Mao he knocked the visor of Mao's face and when Lelouch noticed he geassed him.

[FinnMacCool]

If Lelouch could use Geass on Moa this whole time, why didn't he sooner?

A fun episode. Reminds me why I like the series. No cringe worthy moments. And we get to learn a bit more about Kururugi. I just hope he doesn't get too emo, I hate it when mecha pilots do that, but it seems to be the cliche of the genre.
Because Mao would know the instant Lelouch decided to use Geass, letting him close his eyes or look away. Lelouch had to spontaneously decide to use it while Mao was distracted by someone else. His shades may play some part in it too, I'm not sure.

You know, considering how much anime fans like to complain about certain characters being emo, I loved the fact that we actually got Rivalz calling Suzaku emo. Suzaku: "Emo?"

And even if he does start getting angsty, if this episode is any indication his ass-kicking should increase proportionally, so it's all right. :anime:

[garfield15]

If Lelouch could use Geass on Moa this whole time, why didn't he sooner?


I think because those other times he would have read his mind and known about it.

Today's episode, Spinzaku returns! (and breaks the laws of physics. You are not the Matrix Suzaku)

[bigdeath]

Come on guys, just two episodes ago when Mao and Lelouch meet, Mao explained that he knew all about Lulu's geass and had his visor on to protect him.

Such short memories. :sweat:

[Rolling Cloud]

and of course, the fate of another comes down to a chess game. :sweat:

[Neo Ultra Mike]

In truth a few points I would of given to this episode when hearing about the synopsis would of faded if they never explained just how Mao came back after being shot at last episode, but now we know for sure: Lelouche didn't order the police to kill Mao but rather just to shoot him and he was able to heal and escape because of that so I'm glad that was out of the way. I'm kind of hoping now though that Mao is dead, if only because I'm sure C.C would know it'd be pointless for Mao to be left alive espically now that he's mute but probably even more vengeful (nice Geass order by Lelouche BTW). Besides proving Lelouche's bound with Suzaku is so strong we also see that Lelouche can actually be out thought in certain situations... if he you know dosen't use his own Geass to make himself forget his plan so Suzaku can save the day. Nice tag team by them even if Suzaku will be wrecked now that his own actions of killing his father has been thrown back at him by Mao. That's gotta suck unless Lelouche geassed him (too bad for Lulu Mao didn't reveal Suzaku was the White Knight mecha but that'd just ruin the drama I guess). Anyway in addition to the little cat and mouse game we also have a little bit of advancements on the other subplots: the student council knows about Shirley "pretending" to have forgotten about Lelouche, Milly having ben ordered a courting arrangment with Lloyd (if that ends with them as a couple that'd be one of the weirdest couplings we'd have in CG and I'm counting Nina's table-kuning obsession of Eupehmina), the Black Knights orginzating and spreading out, Viletta still suffering the whole amnesia but being nice with Kaname and Eupehnia and Corneila having a nice moment. In short another good Geass ep. Probably not as good as last time but the last part of Lelouche's plan was definite good Code Geass trickery and made for a great end to pretty good ep. And calling Suzaku Emo (he's defintley going to be feeling it soon) defintley confirmed as that was probably the LOl moment of the ep worth repeating IMHO.

[Captain Highwind]

Lelouche's Geass trick on Mao actually looked painful...like Mao was having a stroke or something.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Mao, in a desperate attempt to be even more scary, kidnaps a helpless blind girl. Genius. Oh Suzaku, you were such a nice child back then...

Lloyd and Milly are the weirdest semi-couple ever.

[Rolling Cloud]

Now why did Mao even bother to tie up her legs, again? ~_~

[garfield15]

Now why did Mao even bother to tie up her legs, again? ~_~

Wow, I just noticed that. :p

(Your avatar rocks. He was a cool villian)

[Kitschensyngk]

Doing this way early this week. I'm in a hotel in Boston right now and I don't think I'll get to watch it on-air tonight, as we leave in the morning.

Last time: If you go carrying pictures of madman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

Networking the terrorist way.

Christian Church looked better blond.

Big boys don't cry. That's just an alibi.

Suzu's emo? I hear that's illegal now in Rus--er, area 18.

:ack: Oh crapspackle.

Your friendly neighborhood kidnapper.

Shirley's still in Lulu's la-la land.

Five hours to save a hostage and you don't even know where she or her kidnappers are. I think I saw this in a movie once...

And now there's color-coded wire cutting?

And now a tender moment between a tyrant and a bleeding heart.

Couldn't he just pick up all the pieces on the board and put them on his side of the scale? It'd be that easy.

Utter torture, playing chess with a psychopathic bomber with an inflated ego who can read your mind.

You can Geass yourself? That could pose a problem.

"Oh, sorry, did I touch a nerve? Why don't you run home crying to your daddy? Oh, that's right, YOU KILLED HIM!"

He finally shuts (himself) up.

Comedy Central, I don't know what you saw in him. :rolleyes2:

[Captain Highwind]

Couldn't he just pick up all the pieces on the board and put them on his side of the scale? It'd be that easy.


That's what I thought, but Mao would probably smack his hand, force the other scale down all the way, or shoot him.

But I didn't see a gun...and Mao is kinda sickly. But Lelouche looks kinda gangly too.

I guess they could try tussling...it would be amusing to see somebody walk into the church and they're tangled up like a couple of wire hangers on the floor.

[garfield15]

I guess they could try tussling...it would be amusing to see somebody walk into the church and they're tangled up like a couple of wire hangers on the floor.

He can barely throw a punch, I think if he even tried "tusslin'" he would go unconscious.

[bigdeath]

He can barely throw a punch, I think if he even tried "tusslin'" he would go unconscious.

He can pilot a mech. I think Lelouch can handle fighting fellow nerds.

[airfighter]

He can pilot a mech. I think Lelouch can handle fighting fellow nerds.

Including nerds who can....read your mind? :p

[purplehairedwonder]

I love the team-ups between Suzaku and Lelouch. It's so bittersweet to see them working together considering they are each other's biggest enemy at the moment. *sigh*

Huge LOL at Rivalz calling Suzaku emo. Totally classic.

I thought JYB really pulled off Lelouch's scream and subsequent agonized whisper of "Nunnally" really well when he thought the bomb went off.

And eep, Suzaku killed his father and joined the military in an attempt to get killed on the front lines to make up for that. That's my boy >.>

[Beefy]

I had a suspicion Mao would be back considering we didn't see his corpse last episode. Looks like it's lights out for him this time.

And Suzaku it seems is more messed up than I thought. Talk about taking his pacifism bs too far.

[Captain Highwind]

Lloyd and Milly are the weirdest semi-couple ever.

Isn't he kind of old for her?

Regardless of the fact that she's the only stable person in the student council...:p

[LordTerminal]

Well Zoro ever looses the sponsorship for "Bandages heal everything.", then Mao should take that up that rank. It's amazing that he survived that metalic hailstorm.

Well, well, well. Who are you to judge Zero now Suzaku?

Let's hope he stays dead this time.

[FlyByNite77]

You should have commanded them to kill me, not shoot me.


Umm dude they shot you like a gazillion times how the heck are you even alive let alone moving around so good?

[airfighter]

You should have commanded them to kill me, not shoot me.

Umm dude they shot you like a gazillion times how the heck are you even alive let alone moving around so good?

Most of those gazillion shots never hit him.

Hardly realistic, but that happens in fiction all the time, let alone anime, when the plot demands it: when you want somebody to survive, they will. When you want them to die, they will.

It's always the execution that could be done better though, I'd agree.

[zoombie]

I love the bond the sibling bond Lelouch has with Nunnally, and the friendship bond Suzaku has with Nunnaly. Which makes me hate Mao even more, picking on Nunnally like that. What a punk.

At this point in the series, Lelouch and Suzaku are friend not enemies, Zero and Suzaku are enemies. There is sort of a difference.

[NelStone]

So Mao isn't dead, and then is finally dead? Aw, man. Oh, well, last week I thought he was gone forever, so I guess this was better.

He sure like clapping. o_O

[zoombie]

Mao is just so crazy. I felt sorry for him in the past, but in this episode, I really grew to hate him. It is understandable of wanting to get revenge on CC, but he is just picking on innocent people that had nothing to do with his problems.

[bigdeath]

Isn't he kind of old for her?

Regardless of the fact that she's the only stable person in the student council...:p

Actually, Milly is about a year older than Lulu.

What? Milly stable?! :shrug:

Zero and Suzaku are enemies. There is sort of a difference.

Suzaku is know as the white knight because his mecha is white. Lulu doesn't know he is the pilot of Lancelot.

[Demonic Raven]

This was definitely the best episode yet..and there wasn't even a Knightmare fight!

The big revelation at the end is a shocker. It also raises a bunch of questions. How is Suzaku in any position to criticize Zero for his actions? Why doesn't he just kill himself normally rather than...jump in front of armed automated machine guns only to survive? Did he catch onto the power of Geass (considering Mao's mind reading and Lelouch's order working)?

I liked Bosch's performance at the end. Lelouch absolutely broke down and it really sounded like it.

[zoombie]

Suzaku is know as the white knight because his mecha is white. Lulu doesn't know he is the pilot of Lancelot.

That futher proves my point. Their alto egos are enemies, they are still friends, at least for now.

[Master Moron]

So, how did Lelouch know to cut the blue wire?

[animePWNS]

Lelouch geassing his memory reminded of Light's tactic in the middle of Death Note.

Also, Death Note users are to Mu(Nothingness) as Geass users are to C's World.

Oh, and did anyone else notice Nina's reactions to the words "plunge", "real thing" and "experience"? Dirty! (Not that there's anything wrong with that.:D:D:D)

[Lord Mawdryn]

Yeah, this settles it--C2 is my new goddess. Her appearance at the end was absolutely the perfect capper to this...
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[PickHut]

Geez, I know Suzaku is good at using his machine, but he was doing all sorts of crazy stunts outside of it in this episode. Borderline superhuman if you ask me. So, Mao survives, then dies. I... ok. I liked the twist at the end with Lelouch having used Geass on himself, not once did I think he could use it on himself.

You know, Mao sure said a lot of things in front of Nunnally while talking to Lelouch on the phone. I wonder if this gets brought up anytime soon. Unless her ears were covered up right then...

[GWOtaku]

One of the best episodes of Code Geass. The team-up was good, with plenty of action and intellect in play with not a robot to be seen for a change--a strength of the Mao arc, I think. The ending was a great twist, I never expected that Lelouch would Geass himself. And of course, the revelation about Suzaku tells us a great deal...his obsession with doing the right thing comes from a very dark place. He's essentially looking to punish himself by giving himself a martyr's fate, dying the same death he gave to his dad.

[thenewme93]

My god..Mao just pulled a "Joker" kidnapping Lelouch's sister like that..and since when did Suzaku gain all these superpowers....and he hates Zero but he killed his own family members...nice going, kid...

[Kitschensyngk]

Hey, check it out...Mao Tse Tongue-less!









Sorry. :crying:

[v1cious]

yet another title made ironically funny by R2.:D

[The Otakuman]

Great cast.

Ezra Wiesz as Mao is CREEPY:eek:

Kidnapping Nulllaly is low.

Liked Rebecca Forstadt as Lelouch's Sister.

Cant wait for next episode.

See ya!

[Dark Moridin]

Most of those gazillion shots never hit him.

Hardly realistic, but that happens in fiction all the time, let alone anime, when the plot demands it: when you want somebody to survive, they will. When you want them to die, they will.

It's always the execution that could be done better though, I'd agree.

Most may not have hit him, but enough to mess up his pinky, lol.


Overall, nice "chess" eppy. each trying to navigate around each other's moves. But I have to say that Lulu lucked out with Mao's visor being knocked off. That is the only thing (In My Opinion) that actually saved Lulu. If Mao had said anything "Zero" like, then Lulu would have been blown away.

And the little bit with the purple haired woman was confusing, at least a little. did that have anything to do with the story besides trying to get us to believe that she didn't remember?

So, the rest of the counsel is buying into the so-called fight between Lulu and Shirley? Worst part of the series so far, as all these plot lines appear to do nothing, which makes me think that more will be more evident later (comic book rules are in effect, as per Mao being alive after being shot dead last eppy)

Till next week.

[macattack]

Liked Rebecca Forstadt as Lelouch's Sister.


I'm going to go faint now.

[Temple Fugate]

This is definitely my favorite episode thus far (though I've missed a few along the way). Lately I've preferred episodic storytelling to the typical anime arc format, and Lelouch has offered the best of both worlds with its single-episode plots that add up to the greater whole. This episode, though, is almost purely stand-alone, and it's absolutely a great story.

The challenge presented to Lelouch is a classic example of reinforcing a great protagonist by giving him a great antagonist. The ticking clock element of Nunnally's situation and the battle with a man who can read his thoughts made for great suspense. It was cool to see Lelouch and Suzaku teaming up to stop him. I didn't even see the end coming with Lelouch discovering he brainwashed himself. All that time I thought he was leading the bad guy on, but I was sure that couldn't be the case, as the bad guy would have known instantly.

One simpler solution I noticed, though, was that Lelouch could have just pushed down his side of the scale and disarmed the bomb. That's not quite guaranteed to work, as it might not have permanently disarmed it, and the bad guy could have then rearmed it and detonated it by pushing his side of the scale down. Also that's very unsportsmanlike, and Lelouch is probably someone who would never even consider that option no matter the cost.

The bad guy still had the last laugh...or mumble, if you will...with the revelation about Suzaku. Pretty haunting stuff.

Anyway, great episode.

[zoombie]

Nunnaly being held hostage, I wonder if we will see that again? I think there is a good chance we will, and I know the person that will hold her hostage. Those of you that follow the episodes airing in Japan and R2 know who I am talking about, and I think they would agree, most likely someone will pull a gun at Nunnally's head ready to kill her.

[Temple Fugate]

Was there really a point to saying that, zoombie, other than to brag about your knowledge of the Japanese airing of the second season? What you've said is borderline spoilerish for people like me who only watch what's aired in America.

[zoombie]

Was there really a point to saying that, zoombie, other than to brag about your knowledge of the Japanese airing of the second season? What you've said is borderline spoilerish for people like me who only watch what's aired in America.

No I wasn't trying to brag. That was a serious lugit question. The topic of episode got me thinking.

[Taekmkm]

One simpler solution I noticed, though, was that Lelouch could have just pushed down his side of the scale and disarmed the bomb. That's not quite guaranteed to work, as it might not have permanently disarmed it, and the bad guy could have then rearmed it and detonated it by pushing his side of the scale down. Also that's very unsportsmanlike, and Lelouch is probably someone who would never even consider that option no matter the cost.

You forget that Mao can read his mind, and can push his down first if that happens.