Do you beleive in Bigfoot? [Archive]

Cartoonlover

07-31-2008, 01:08 PM

When I was younger I used to believe in cryptozoology, the paranormal and all that stuff. These days though I'm more of a hard nosed skeptic. After decades of searching for Bigfoot, Nessie and UFOs, the only "evidence" we have are some blurry photographs.

Surely after all this time some somebody would have stumbled across at least one Bigfoot corpse or a clutch of eggs on the shores of Loch Ness.
I think Nessie is mammal, like Loren Coleman says. Therefore, she gives live birth. As for Bigfoot, not many corpses of any animals, bears included are found the in forest. I also think it's possible these creatures might bury their dead realatives. Don't forget, Bigfoot if it is real must be very intelligent.

johnny139

07-31-2008, 01:19 PM

Well... it's certainly possible. Not all that probable, but I'm sure there COULD be an unidentified North American ape. Personally, I believe the Yeti is far more likely, but still.

Michael24

07-31-2008, 02:02 PM

I'm sure a lot of sightings are hoaxes, but I like to believe there's something out there. I've always had an interest in such "unexplained mysteries," particularly the paranormal and supernatural.

Dr.Pepper

07-31-2008, 02:05 PM

I believe that Bigfoot is real. Its just smart and that is why we don't see it.

purplehairedwonder

07-31-2008, 05:19 PM

I'm sure a lot of sightings are hoaxes, but I like to believe there's something out there. I've always had an interest in such "unexplained mysteries," particularly the paranormal and supernatural.Pretty much my thoughts exactly. There is still so much that we don't know that it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there really was something out there.

Captain Highwind

07-31-2008, 05:41 PM

I believe in a lot of hairy unwashed people.

They walk amongst us!

bigdeath

07-31-2008, 06:45 PM

Yes, I also believe in the tooth fairy.

GregX

07-31-2008, 08:58 PM

I believe in a lot of hairy unwashed people.

They walk amongst us!

I'm sure several hundred were at Comic Con. :D

Cartoonlover

07-31-2008, 09:53 PM

Yes, I also believe in the tooth fairy.
You don't have to say that. A lot of people, including myself beleive in these mysteries. Please respect that.

Light Lucario

07-31-2008, 10:03 PM

Yeah, I believe that there's a Bigfoot. Or at least I believe in the possibility of Bigfoot living out in the wilderness. The same goes for the Yeti. After all, we, as humans, don't know everything and we certainly don't know all the life that does exists in this universe so who are we to say what is really out there.

Cartoonlover

07-31-2008, 10:22 PM

Robin2099

07-31-2008, 10:22 PM

http://www.popculturebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/i-want-to-believe.jpg

Figured this thread called for that. Anyway I believe in it, but I'm also somewhat skeptical. Mostly because we've never really had anything that resembles concrete evidence. Basically we have a bunch of people just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame, which makes believing difficult sometimes.

Ishtar

08-01-2008, 12:15 AM

I personally am open to the possibility of Bigfoot existing, but we just need clearer evidence.

Charlie

08-01-2008, 01:09 AM

Big Foot is as real as the Loch Ness Monster.

mgr91686

08-01-2008, 01:26 AM

I believe in Big Foot, I just don't believe that what we have been shown is actually Big Foot.

Harvey Two Face

08-01-2008, 04:47 AM

Big Foot is as real as the Loch Ness Monster.

I agree totally with this statement.

Lavenderpaw

08-01-2008, 07:17 AM

I believe anything is possible. :D

The New Titans

08-01-2008, 08:17 AM

I personally am open to the possibility of Bigfoot existing, but we just need clearer evidence.

My view on Bigfoot too. Its also the same to all great mysteries of the world: Jack the Ripper, UFOs, Marilyn Monroe's death, the Yeti and the JFK assassination.

Brandon Pierce

08-01-2008, 03:36 PM

Didn't the guy who created Bigfoot die recently, and reveal that Bigfoot was fake?

Cartoonlover

08-01-2008, 05:23 PM

Didn't the guy who created Bigfoot die recently, and reveal that Bigfoot was fake?
No. That is a very common mistake. The man you're thinking of is Ray Wallace. He faked some prints, and a couple photos. However, his "proof" was clearly fake. It was just a harmless joke. He died in 2003, and prints and sightings are still turning up.

CyberCubed

08-03-2008, 04:11 PM

No, we would have found bones or the remains of previous Bigfoot that have died in the past if it ever existed. Sometimes realism goes a long way.

J'onn J'onzz

08-03-2008, 04:30 PM

Supporter or skeptic? Does this creature roam free, or is it a fake? Have you seen one? Time to talk!http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/s/A/patterson_bigfoot_lg.jpg
Most bigfoot sightings are just gorillas. And he looks different in like every picture I see. They're usually either random monkeys or people in suits. I'm almost positive he's fake.

mgr91686

08-03-2008, 05:33 PM

Most bigfoot sightings are just gorillas. And he looks different in like every picture I see. They're usually either random monkeys or people in suits. I'm almost positive he's fake.

Let's say that's true, then wouldn't there be reports of escaped large Apes roughly around the time a Big Foot sighting was reported? Cause I know for sure that Idaho has no Apes swinging from our trees, and you would have to be straining real hard to confuse a Bear for Big Foot.

Cartoonlover

08-03-2008, 07:10 PM

Most bigfoot sightings are just gorillas. And he looks different in like every picture I see. They're usually either random monkeys or people in suits. I'm almost positive he's fake.
I'm sorry. There are no gorillas in America. Nor random monkeys. As for men in suits, check the Patterson footage. A man can't do that stride and make it natural.

JAG

08-03-2008, 07:28 PM

I think that there is certainly a good possibility of Bigfoot's existence. No one has managed to re-create the Patterson film, or prove that it it a hoax. It looks pretty real to me. There is also the fact that Native American tribes all over North America believed in some form of this creature, and we've found all kinds of different carvings, paintings, etc. depicting what appears to be a large apelike being.

DarthGonzo

08-03-2008, 11:11 PM

After all these decades of bigfoot "sightings" and "rumors" surely someone, somewhere would have found some serious, concrete proof of the existence of the creature. An animal that large and strange can't be that elusive.

The Cartoon

08-04-2008, 09:40 AM

I have always believed in Bigfoot and I always will. It's like UFO's and Nessie, even though there have been hoaxes, there have been a lot of real sightings too. If you look at The Patterson Film, the Bigfoot walks strangely, swings it's arms and appears to be a female. A costume wouldn't go into enough detail to add that feature and would take a human a long time to learn to walk like that. The only reason Bigfoot hasn't been found is because it is really smart and elusive. You can argue that it can't be so elusive to where no has caught one, but it hasn't been so good to where people haven't gotten pictures of it. Also, there are lots of people that claim they have a Bigfoot body. Though I doubt most of those are true, there is a policeman who claims he has one and it will be released to the public September 1st so I'm eagerly waiting to find out of Bigfoot will once and for all, be proven to exist.

AlgeaX

08-04-2008, 03:06 PM

I'm sorry. There are no gorillas in America. Nor random monkeys. As for men in suits, check the Patterson footage. A man can't do that stride and make it natural.

You know I'd love to send that footage in to Mythbusters just to see if Adam and Jamie could replicate it. I'd be willing to put good money on them pulling it off.

JAG

08-04-2008, 06:17 PM

there is a policeman who claims he has one and it will be released to the public September 1st

Really? Where did you hear that?

The Cartoon

08-04-2008, 08:42 PM

Really? Where did you hear that?
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/claytonco-police/

thenewme93

08-05-2008, 02:33 PM

I don't believe in Bigfoot but I do believe mutations like that can happen.

BonyT

08-05-2008, 03:45 PM

As with all things cryptozoological, there's only one kind of evidence that will do for proof -- and it's not any more footprint casts, photos or films.

mgr91686

08-05-2008, 07:23 PM

there is a policeman who claims he has one and it will be released to the public September 1st so I'm eagerly waiting to find out of Bigfoot will once and for all, be proven to exist.

It would be awesome if it was true, but I feel that this is just an attempt to grab some media attention.

The Cartoon

08-05-2008, 08:54 PM

It would be awesome if it was true, but I feel that this is just an attempt to grab some media attention.
But it is a police officer, his job is at stake.

mgr91686

08-05-2008, 11:16 PM

But it is a police officer, his job is at stake.

Has that ever stopped Police Officers before? Think of all the reports we have had of sleazy officers. To some that badge just means power with no strings attached. Call me jaded, but I refuse to believe that somebody has definitive proof until they cough it up. So till proven otherwise I will remain skeptical.

Ren

08-05-2008, 11:54 PM

My dad claims that he and a friend saw bigfoot years ago. However, he also admits he was drunk at the time. My mom saw "something" while she and I were driving through the woods one evening, and sadly I wasn't looking out the side window at the time. She refuses to believe it was bigfoot, though my dad and brother think it was. My brother firmly believes in Bigfoot, to the point that he keeps track of sightings in our state.
I don't think they exist, but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if some real evidence surfaced. My "pet" cryptid is lake monsters. Not Nessie specifically, but lake monsters in general.

Anarky

08-06-2008, 12:15 AM

Squatch died the day Clay Bennett moved the Seattle NBA franchise to Oklahoma City.

Cartoonlover

08-06-2008, 02:21 PM

You know I'd love to send that footage in to Mythbusters just to see if Adam and Jamie could replicate it. I'd be willing to put good money on them pulling it off.

The BBC tried that, trying to debunk the film. They spent alot of money on it. The BFRO has the result.

:sweat: http://www.bfro.net/news/challenge/images/arms_comparison.jpg

AlgeaX

08-06-2008, 02:59 PM

The BBC tried that, trying to debunk the film. They spent alot of money on it. The BFRO has the result.

:sweat: http://www.bfro.net/news/challenge/images/arms_comparison.jpg

What am I supposed to be seeing here? Obviously the one on the right is a cheesy costume but why are the arms so significant?

ROBOTRON

08-06-2008, 03:09 PM

:sweat: - I do not belive in bigfoot. I only believe in the montauk monster.

The Cartoon

08-06-2008, 07:32 PM

What am I supposed to be seeing here? Obviously the one on the right is a cheesy costume but why are the arms so significant?
The arms are significant because BBC wasn't able to recreate that part of the footage. Why? Because the movement of the arms in the footage is unlike the movement of a human's arms; So far from it that BBC couldn't recreate it accurately. Also, look at the length of the arms in comparison. They aren't even close. No human has arms that long.

Light Lucario

08-06-2008, 09:36 PM

While this isn't exactly Big Foot, I did read in a magazine how they had a supposed scalp of a Yeti from a Monk temple in the mountains and they had done testings on it many years ago. They said that the DNA structure wasn't like a human or an ape. It did mention that the scale was stolen and was never seen again, though it is believed to be in the U.S. black market. I just thought that was an interesting taste of information that somewhat related to this thread.

AlgeaX

08-07-2008, 06:42 AM

The arms are significant because BBC wasn't able to recreate that part of the footage. Why? Because the movement of the arms in the footage is unlike the movement of a human's arms; So far from it that BBC couldn't recreate it accurately. Also, look at the length of the arms in comparison. They aren't even close. No human has arms that long.

Arm length is irrelevant. If it's a costume one can make the arms as long as they like. As for not being able to mimic their movements, I've seen too many sci-fi and fantasy movies to be convinced.

http://img79.echo.cx/img79/4620/sammael4js.jpg

If you saw the first Hellboy movie then it may surprise you to learn that during most of it, the demon Sammael was portrayed by an actor in a suit rather then CGI.

While this isn't exactly Big Foot, I did read in a magazine how they had a supposed scalp of a Yeti from a Monk temple in the mountains and they had done testings on it many years ago. They said that the DNA structure wasn't like a human or an ape. It did mention that the scale was stolen and was never seen again, though it is believed to be in the U.S. black market. I just thought that was an interesting taste of information that somewhat related to this thread.

I read about that. The scientist studying the "yeti scalp" determined it to be from some kind of hoofed mammal, most likely a yak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeti#The_Pangboche_Scalp

Cartoonlover

08-07-2008, 08:33 AM

[quote=AlgeaX;2950132]Arm length is irrelevant. If it's a costume one can make the arms as long as they like. As for not being able to mimic their movements, I've seen too many sci-fi and fantasy movies to be convinced.

The arm length is not irrelevant. The arms move in a natural way. Besides, this was filmed in the 60's were they couldn't exactly extend arms in such a way.

DarthGonzo

08-07-2008, 02:12 PM

The arm length is not irrelevant. The arms move in a natural way. Besides, this was filmed in the 60's were they couldn't exactly extend arms in such a way.

The two 1960s Japanese Toho King Kong movies both used Kong suits that had nearly floor length arm extensions. So it wasn't impossible even then.

It's just not possible. I'm positive "bigfoot" doesn't exist.

AlgeaX

08-07-2008, 02:14 PM

The arm length is not irrelevant. The arms move in a natural way. Besides, this was filmed in the 60's were they couldn't exactly extend arms in such a way.

While I must admit that the Patterson film certainly looks convincing it is far from conclusive. For every expert who hails it as incontrovertible evidence; there's another who decries it as a clever hoax.

http://www.strangemag.com/pattersonfilm30th.html

http://home.clara.net/rfthomas/papers/screen.html

Ultimately the only proof that will satisfy me is an actual Bigfoot body, preferably living. Beyond that, I just find it implausible that such a species could remain hidden on one of the most heavily urbanized continents on the planet.

Light Lucario

08-08-2008, 12:52 AM

I read about that. The scientist studying the "yeti scalp" determined it to be from some kind of hoofed mammal, most likely a yak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeti#The_Pangboche_Scalp

Really? The article that I read didn't mention what kind of animal the scientists studying the yeti scalp came from. It just went from that comment on how it wasn't like a human's or an ape's DNA and mentioned how it was stolen soon after.

Cartoonlover

08-08-2008, 05:58 PM

I have a new curve: sightings. Has anyone seen Sasquatch?

mgr91686

08-08-2008, 06:55 PM

Nope, I have never seen sasquatch. Although my Grandmother claims to have seen one. At best these are dubious claims.

GCFyouthcamper

08-12-2008, 12:37 PM

Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Harry and the Hendersons... ever hear of Skunk Ape? They say it's like bigfoot, but really smelly. The only way to prove the existence at this point is for someone to produce one, dead or alive.

Deadman

08-12-2008, 05:20 PM

i think that there are lots of species that we dont know of yet. bigfoot could be one of them.

Taco Wiz

08-12-2008, 07:57 PM

I don't believe in Big Foot. I do, however, believe in sea monsters, seeing as a corpse was recently uncovered.

Anyone00

08-14-2008, 12:10 AM

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402882,00.html)

Bigfoot Trackers Say They've Got a Body

Bigfoot may have been found. Maybe. We'll see.
Two Northern California men and two Georgians say they've got a body, a photo and DNA evidence pertaining to the elusive forest-dwelling man-ape — and that they'll reveal all at a press conference in Palo Alto, Calif., on Friday.
"I think you'll find that this is the real deal," Robert Barrows of Redwood City, Calif., told the Bay City News local wire service.
Matthew Whitton, a cop in Clayton County, Ga., and his friend Rick Dyer, a former corrections officer, say they recently found the body in the woods of northern Georgia.
Veteran Bigfoot tracker Tom Biscardi said he's examined the body, and that scientists will get their chance soon.

Please stay on subject: this is about Bigfoot not bashing Fox News.

MonkeyFunk

08-14-2008, 10:24 AM

AlgeaX

08-14-2008, 10:52 AM

It's been pointed out that the photo of the bigfoot corpse looks suspiciously like this costume (http://thehorrordome.com/HDSHOPPINGPROPS/SasquatchLARGE.htm).

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/worthchops/bigfoot.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/worthchops/costumecomparison.jpg

Read more here:
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=34537

If this thing is genuine the they should have no problem handing over the alleged Bigfoot corpse to some reputable scientists for analysis. Until then I'm going to assume it's a hoax.

The Cartoon

08-14-2008, 11:19 AM

If this thing is genuine the they should have no problem handing over the alleged Bigfoot corpse to some reputable scientists for analysis. Until then I'm going to assume it's a hoax.
They have. The results of the DNA tests will be revealed tomorrow. And can I just say, why does there always have to be an explanation for everything. Don't you skeptics want to believe it's real?

AlgeaX

08-14-2008, 01:05 PM

They have. The results of the DNA tests will be revealed tomorrow. And can I just say, why does there always have to be an explanation for everything. Don't you skeptics want to believe it's real?

To the best of my knowledge they've only handed over DNA samples, not the actual corpse, so there's no telling where that DNA came from.

Whether I want Bigfoot to be real or not is completely irrelevant, what is relevant here is facts, evidence and scientific rigeur. Personally I'd love to be proven wrong, finding out that Bigfoot is real would be incredibly awesome.

I'd also love it if M&Ms could cure AIDS, but if someone came up to me claiming just that, I'd want some really strong evidence before I began taking their claim seriously.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. That's all I'm asking for; proof, solid, unambiguous, incontrovertible proof.

wonderfly

08-14-2008, 04:36 PM

northern Georgia.

Northern Georgia?!? What the hell is Bigfoot doing there?!? Wouldn't it be more believable to find a body in the American Northwest?

And I don't know whether I believe in Bigfoot or not. I've always been more interested in the Mothman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman) legend anyway. :)

Light Lucario

08-14-2008, 09:46 PM

To the best of my knowledge they've only handed over DNA samples, not the actual corpse, so there's no telling where that DNA came from.

Whether I want Bigfoot to be real or not is completely irrelevant, what is relevant here is facts, evidence and scientific rigeur. Personally I'd love to be proven wrong, finding out that Bigfoot is real would be incredibly awesome.

I'd also love it if M&Ms could cure AIDS, but if someone came up to me claiming just that, I'd want some really strong evidence before I began taking their claim seriously.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. That's all I'm asking for; proof, solid, unambiguous, incontrovertible proof.

I can understand that you want more of a kind of proof before believing in something like this and I respect that. I at least believe in the possibility of a creature such as Bigfoot being around, but having actual proof would be helpful as well. I have to say that the picture creeps me out, but I get nervous with seeing dead bodies anyway. If it turns out that its a fake, and I wouldn't be surprised considering its Fox News, I just had to mention it, I'll be okay with that. Maybe we aren't meant to have proof of everything extraordinary and just go on with our ideas about what we can't explain.

Charlie

08-14-2008, 11:18 PM

That can't be Bigfoot, its not blurry enough.

BonyT

08-14-2008, 11:57 PM

If it turns out that its a fake, and I wouldn't be surprised considering its Fox News, I just had to mention it, I'll be okay with that.Just so you know, this isn't some kind of "Fox exclusive"; everyone is reporting it -- including CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/14/bigfoot.body/index.html?iref=newssearch

Neither CNN nor Fox created this story, nor is either the entity claiming to have found the body -- they're just news organizations reporting the story, period. So it would be unfair and irrational to imply that either is somehow responsible for whether these guys are telling the truth or not. (It's not that I think you really meant to do that; I just think it's important to point out, because unjustified disparaging comments like that are a little too easy to make without really thinking about it.)

mgr91686

08-15-2008, 12:29 AM

The thing I want to know is this, is it so dang hard in this day of Digital Photography to get a clear picture of an immobile object? For pete's sake I got a neat picture of a dog running and it came out with awesome clarity.

Light Lucario

08-15-2008, 09:31 PM

Just so you know, this isn't some kind of "Fox exclusive"; everyone is reporting it -- including CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/14/bigfoot.body/index.html?iref=newssearch

Neither CNN nor Fox created this story, nor is either the entity claiming to have found the body -- they're just news organizations reporting the story, period. So it would be unfair and irrational to imply that either is somehow responsible for whether these guys are telling the truth or not. (It's not that I think you really meant to do that; I just think it's important to point out, because unjustified disparaging comments like that are a little too easy to make without really thinking about it.)

I kind of thought that it was a Fox exclusive since I haven't heard anything about it on other news channel. Come to think of it, I don't watch much of any news anyway. Too depressing for me to handle usually. Anyway, I didn't want to upset you and I apologize if I did. All I meant was Fox News is not known for its reliability with news, at least in my view, and the story itself has more credit since other news channels are reporting on the story. I wasn't aware that other news reporters were reporting on it.

The Wolverine

08-16-2008, 12:45 AM

They have not found Bigfoot.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/us_nm/bigfoot_dc

Anyone00

08-16-2008, 12:51 AM

They have not found Bigfoot.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/us_nm/bigfoot_dc

Now the search begins for Opossum-man; I hear he and Bat-boy opened a sports bar in the center of the Earth.

DarkGojira

08-16-2008, 12:58 AM

I'm not surprised that they didn't find Bigfoot.

In fact, I knew it was fake to begin with. Looking at the picture, "Bigfoot" looked like a silly Halloween costume stuffed in a container until next Halloween.

The face didn't even look realistic. It totally reminded me of King Kong from King Kong vs. Godzilla.

Michael24

08-16-2008, 01:48 AM

I would love for this to have been real, but (like many others) I suspected this would be a bust.

Now the search begins for Opossum-man; I hear he and Bat-boy opened a sports bar in the center of the Earth.

LMAO!!! :D

GregX

08-16-2008, 02:36 PM

Light Lucario

08-16-2008, 06:54 PM

When this first popped up, I was embarrassed that our news media would even give this garbage the time of day. Those pictures were the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

There's a war going on between Russia and Georgia, and the media was giving time to these inbred hicks.

I agree with you there. There are more important events going on in the world and the news would rather focus on this or the lives of the stars instead. That would be the second reason why I don't watch the news; it can focus on less important events and even not tell the whole truth.

BonyT

08-16-2008, 08:28 PM

I kind of thought that it was a Fox exclusive since I haven't heard anything about it on other news channel. Come to think of it, I don't watch much of any news anyway. Too depressing for me to handle usually. Anyway, I didn't want to upset you and I apologize if I did. All I meant was Fox News is not known for its reliability with news, at least in my view, and the story itself has more credit since other news channels are reporting on the story. I wasn't aware that other news reporters were reporting on it.Well, I don't think it would be appropriate to make this a referendum on Fox News; but let me assure you, you didn't upset me :) . I just thought it should be pointed out the truth or falsehood of these guys' claim didn't reflect on the credibility of Fox, CNN or anyone else who was just reporting a blurb about the story.

... And by the way, it's certainly no surprise that these guys turned out to be hoaxers. Whatever credibility cryptozoology had (and frankly, it's not much with me) has of course been lowered even further in the public's eyes by this farce.

BonyT

08-16-2008, 08:37 PM

I agree with you there. There are more important events going on in the world and the news would rather focus on this or the lives of the stars instead. That would be the second reason why I don't watch the news; it can focus on less important events and even not tell the whole truth.Well, it's not that CNN and Fox weren't "telling the truth"; they reported the story accurately -- it was the four guys making the claim who were lying. What GregX was questioning was that they gave it any attention at all, when lots more important things were going on. But actually, Fox only had a blurb on their site about the bigfoot thing, and it wasn't on the front page -- you had to run a search to find it; CNN devoted a longer story to bigfoot on their site, but it wasn't prominent either. And honestly, it's not like having those small stories about this bigfoot nonsense curtailed in any way their coverage of Russia-Georgia, or pushed it off their front page.

The Cartoon

08-17-2008, 09:26 AM

Call me crazy, but I still don't think this is fake. Heres why:

1. Tom Biscardi says the DNA must have been taken wrong. Who's to say he isn't right about that? I won't give up until the Autopsy proves that it is fake.
2. Why would 2 samples of the same thing come from 2 completely different sources?
3. If one of the DNA samples is right, who is to say that Bigfoot isn't so closely related to the human, that it came out as human DNA?

Also, would you guys rather hear about more people dying on the news, or Bigfoot?

MonkeyFunk

08-17-2008, 10:03 AM

Turns out Tom Biscardi has a history of pulling stunts like this:

http://www.lorencoleman.com/biscardi.html

In May 11, 1981, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, Biscardi said he saw a Bigfoot on April 12, 1981, on Mount Lassen that "was a male, 7-foot-4, some 450 pounds." Biscardi told the reporter he was going to capture a Bigfoot. Apparently he never did.

Next Biscardi followed up on his earlier promise to capture a Bigfoot during an appearance on Coast to Coast AM, by announcing to George Noory on Friday, August 19, 2005, that, according to Biscardi, his team (although Biscardi hadn't seen it), had in captivity for over a week, a 17 year old, male, over 400 pounds, 8 foot tall Bigfoot. Biscardi stumbled during the show and although he had earlier said the Bigfoot was 800 pounds, told George Noory had misheard him. (Noory would play back, on the August 22nd appearance, that Noory had gotten it right.) Furthermore, inquiring listeners emailing me wanted to know how can anyone, with a straight face, claim they know a Bigfoot is 17 years old?

The Wolverine

08-17-2008, 10:58 AM

Also, would you guys rather hear about more people dying on the news, or Bigfoot?

tbqh, neither one.

AlgeaX

08-17-2008, 12:44 PM

Also, would you guys rather hear about more people dying on the news, or Bigfoot?

I'd rather hear about the stuff that's actually real and important.

Michael24

08-17-2008, 12:57 PM

I don't see what's so bad about the news reporting about bigfoot. It's not like this story was pushing all the bigger stuff (like the Russia-Georgia thing) aside. I think only one of my local new channels had a story about it, and even then it was reserved for the very end of the newscast after everything else. The discovery of a real bigfoot would certainly be a huge story and an important find, so I would expect the news to cover it to some degree. It's just a shame when hacks pull this kind of crap, undermining the work of serious bigfoot hunters and the people who would like the bigfoot legend to be true.

GregX

08-17-2008, 02:48 PM

Call me crazy, but I still don't think this is fake. Heres why:

1. Tom Biscardi says the DNA must have been taken wrong. Who's to say he isn't right about that? I won't give up until the Autopsy proves that it is fake.

Who's to say he's a liar? Critical thinkers.

2. Why would 2 samples of the same thing come from 2 completely different sources?Because it is a hoax?

3. If one of the DNA samples is right, who is to say that Bigfoot isn't so closely related to the human, that it came out as human DNA?Anyone who passed a biology class.

Also, would you guys rather hear about more people dying on the news, or Bigfoot?I'd rather hear about actual news than a couple of redneck pulling a prank on a news media gullible enough to give them attention.

I would rather hear about events going on that affect the world, and affect us all than hicks with a cheap gorilla costume vying for fifteen minutes of fame.

I would rather a news media that doesn't insult my intelligence with trash like this. The Weekly World News runs more creative and convincing stories than this.

Light Lucario

08-17-2008, 04:29 PM

Well, I don't think it would be appropriate to make this a referendum on Fox News; but let me assure you, you didn't upset me :) . I just thought it should be pointed out the truth or falsehood of these guys' claim didn't reflect on the credibility of Fox, CNN or anyone else who was just reporting a blurb about the story.

... And by the way, it's certainly no surprise that these guys turned out to be hoaxers. Whatever credibility cryptozoology had (and frankly, it's not much with me) has of course been lowered even further in the public's eyes by this farce.

Well, let's just say I often don't like to hear of Fox News considering what I've heard of their inaccurate information. But I'm glad that I didn't upset you. I wasn't trying to say that it would be false because of the story being reported by Fox News. I was just being kind of cautious with hearing a source from said news.

Well, it's not that CNN and Fox weren't "telling the truth"; they reported the story accurately -- it was the four guys making the claim who were lying. What GregX was questioning was that they gave it any attention at all, when lots more important things were going on. But actually, Fox only had a blurb on their site about the bigfoot thing, and it wasn't on the front page -- you had to run a search to find it; CNN devoted a longer story to bigfoot on their site, but it wasn't prominent either. And honestly, it's not like having those small stories about this bigfoot nonsense curtailed in any way their coverage of Russia-Georgia, or pushed it off their front page.

I wasn't saying that they weren't telling the truth. I was saying that the news itself in our country has not told the whole truth in events before. I wasn't connecting that to this story at all.

I also don't think that it was bad for them to report on this story. I originally thought that it was a large cover-like story on CNN or Fox, not just something at the bottom of the screen. That was my main issue from that and so if it didn't bother important stories, then that's okay. Besides, I do agree that finding actual proof of Bigfoot would be worthy enough for larger news coverage.

Also, would you guys rather hear about more people dying on the news, or Bigfoot?

I would rather like to hear that they've stopped fighting in the Middle East than most anything else.

johnny139

08-17-2008, 08:08 PM

Northern Georgia?!? What the hell is Bigfoot doing there?!? Wouldn't it be more believable to find a body in the American Northwest?

Well, if the specials on the History Channel (yeah, I don't get that either) are to be believed, northeastern Texas is supposed to be a Bigfoot hotspot, too.

So, that.

Cartoonlover

08-19-2008, 08:06 AM

They have not found Bigfoot.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/us_nm/bigfoot_dc

Typical Biscardi. He has no real knowledge of these amazing creatures. As for the "body", if 93% was opposum, what was the other 7%? I think his body is a clear fake, I'm just curious.

GregX

08-19-2008, 03:27 PM

And the news media tells us what we all knew the second that photo hit:

http://www.cbs46.com/news/17232407/detail.html

GregX

08-21-2008, 04:09 AM

A fool and his money...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407263,00.html

Mandi-chan

08-23-2008, 01:10 AM

AlgeaX

08-23-2008, 10:22 AM

I believe in Bigfoot, but even I suspected of those creeps were lying about the "body" they found....The real give away is when they couldn't give a straight answer regarding WHERE and HOW they came across it.

Yeah, the only way it would've been more suspicious is if they claimed it fell off the back of a lorry.*

*That's van in Americanese.

The Cartoon

08-23-2008, 08:27 PM

Ok skeptics, you win this round. But I'll be back when the next Bigfoot story comes around :evil:

Cartoonlover

08-24-2008, 03:28 PM

Ok skeptics, you win this round. But I'll be back when the next Bigfoot story comes around :evil:

Agreed.

Cartoonlover

08-25-2008, 09:19 PM

What about the footprints? They can't all be fake.

Racattack!Force

08-26-2008, 12:19 PM

Ok skeptics, you win this round. But I'll be back when the next Bigfoot story comes around :evil:
Agreed, but I was kinda hoping it was true. But I did expect it to be fake...but I still believe in Bigfoot.

Cartoonlover

08-26-2008, 02:15 PM

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg (http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg)

AN exact replica, or real copy is on ebay. Weird huh? Trying to cash in this incident? Can't call it unexpected.

G. Wen

08-30-2008, 01:44 AM

If Bigfoot does exist, it's most likely the North American brown version of a gorillia. I believe it's possible that people saw a gorillia, and ended up describing it as the Bigfoot we know and love today. Keep in mind that before the discovery of African mountian gorillias, many witnesses saw it and described it like Bigfoot, upright, bipidal, and hairy. Well, they got the hairy part right. In fact, the illustrations based on the descriptions look a lot like Bigfoot, except with black fur.

All the photos and video we have of Bigfoot (footprints as well), I believe are a hoax. Why is it that everytime someone records Bigfoot, it's always out of focus? I've not seen a convincing picture or video yet. It's people who heard stories of Bigfoot, and recreated it.

Also, in the BBC recreation, if the guy in the suit bent his legs, his arms would appear longer as well.

Master Toon

08-31-2008, 04:35 PM

Bigfoot is out there, waiting.. watching.. hiding..

Why is it that everytime someone records Bigfoot, it's always out of focus?

They're afraid to get close to him.

G. Wen

09-02-2008, 02:53 AM

It wouldn't matter if they are far away from him when they tape him, there's this thing called ZOOM, and boy does it work.

AlgeaX

09-02-2008, 08:22 AM

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg (http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg)

WHHAAAAAAASSSSUUUP?

P.S. I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. It's a sickness.

Cartoonlover

09-02-2008, 03:35 PM

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg (http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg)

WHHAAAAAAASSSSUUUP?

P.S. I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. It's a sickness.

Why be sorry That's funny.:D

Racattack!Force

09-02-2008, 05:35 PM

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg (http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/6326_1.jpg)

WHHAAAAAAASSSSUUUP?

:lol: That's just plain hilarious. :D

Cartoonlover

09-07-2008, 06:02 PM

:lol: That's just plain hilarious. :D

Yeah! That is quite funny! I've seen it a million times, and I still laugh.:D

The Cartoon

01-01-2009, 09:36 AM

Comics_the_QB

01-01-2009, 09:54 AM

Sure, why not?

UFOs, Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot. Of course, I could be having too much damn fun believing in them. ;)

Mini Garbonzo

01-01-2009, 10:02 AM

Let's see, a big hairy ape man who has large body parts and makes large howling noises...sure, I believe in him, infact, he lives right down my street. :p

But seriously, yes I do believe in this big hairy ape man.

Cartoonlover

01-01-2009, 10:40 AM

With these threads coming back, I think I should tell you guys what happened after this hoax.

They sold the fake suit on eBay and it sold for tons of money. :shrug:
The person who bought it only did it as a joke and didn't intend to pay for it.:lol:
After Loren Coleman ripped them for all these things, they called him a child molester on their website :mad:
The policeman is trying to get his job back :p

I can't believe that I actually believed that these jerks were telling the truth at one point.

How could they say that about Loren Coleman? Do you have a link, because that also makes me mad.:mad: How can they say that? The police officer is trying to get his job back?!?! "Sure, I'll pull a huge joke on everyone, then try to protect the public!":rolleyes:

The Cartoon

01-01-2009, 07:38 PM

How could they say that about Loren Coleman? Do you have a link, because that also makes me mad.:mad: How can they say that? The police officer is trying to get his job back?!?! "Sure, I'll pull a huge joke on everyone, then try to protect the public!":rolleyes:
Right here, it really makes me sick:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bfhoax-jerks/

AlgeaX

01-01-2009, 09:20 PM

Right here, it really makes me sick:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bfhoax-jerks/

Man! these jerks just keep finding whole new levels of despicable to sink down to. You'd think after being revealed to the world as a pair of two bit con-men, they would try to keep a low profile and hope everyone eventually forgets they exist. But I suppose that would require at least a tiny shred of common sense or self respect, two things these guys seem woefully lacking in.

Cartoonlover

01-02-2009, 10:24 AM

Right here, it really makes me sick:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bfhoax-jerks/

:mad: Words cannot describe how disgusting and awful that is. How dare they! One of the crueless, classless things I have ever heard of. What jerks!

Racattack!Force

01-03-2009, 07:10 PM

Those guys make me ashamed of believing in the hairy giant. :sweat:

Cartoonlover

11-10-2009, 03:11 PM

Possible footage. http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1109/676342_video.html?ref=newsstory Problem? Tom Biscardi, who brought us the Bigfoot corpse is interested in this.

TripleS

11-12-2009, 05:51 PM

I'm sure a lot of sightings are hoaxes, but I like to believe there's something out there. I've always had an interest in such "unexplained mysteries," particularly the paranormal and supernatural.
I'm essentially here. My beliefs in the supernatural are very specific though, it's a little sad. Like, yes I believe in aliens, but no I don't think they're anything past prehistoric bacteria AT LEAST as of now. So I won't throw away the idea of alien lifeforms existing long before us.

I do also believe in spirits or ghosts, and am skeptical about some ghost stories depending. Unless it's a poltergeist, a ghost can't actually touch you, from what I understand. Hell, I believe that everything has a force or spirit, specifically every natural element. But... I digress.

But Bigfoot? I can't honestly say I believe in Bigfoot, but I don't necessarily toss away the idea of a Bigfoot-like creature being possible. We seem to be discovering new things each day, a new species would not be unlikely.