C&C - Anything Else [4/27-5/3]

[Mugen]

Welcome to the Anything Else thread! This week, a new-to-AS episode of Family Guy airs tomorrow.

New Episodes in Lime Green
New Arrivals in Red
Return to Weekday Glory in Orange
Very slight change in time in Light Blue

http://adultswimhq.com/sundays.jpg April 27th
10.00/1.30 Family Guy
10.30/2.00 American Dad
11.00/2.30 Family Guy
11.30/3.00 Robot Chicken
11.45/3.15 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.00/3.30 Metalocalyspe
12.15/3.45 Squidbillies
12.30/4.00 Assy McGee
12.45/4.15 Tim and Eric Awesome Job Show, Great Job
1.00/4.30 Oblongs
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha

April 28th
11.00/2.00 Family Guy
11.30/2.30 Family Guy
12.00/3.00 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.15 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/3.30 Boondocks
1.00/4.00 Harvey Birdman
1.15/4.15 Harvey Birdman
1.30/4.30 Home Movies
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha



http://adultswimhq.com/tuesdays.jpg April 29th
11.00/2.00 Family Guy
11.30/2.30 Family Guy
12.00/3.00 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.15 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.30/3.30 Boondocks
1.00/4.00 Harvey Birdman
1.15/4.15 Harvey Birdman
1.30/4.30 Home Movies
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha



http://adultswimhq.com/wednesdays.jpg April 30th
11.00/2.00 Family Guy
11.30/2.30 Family Guy
12.00/3.00 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.15 Metalocalyspe
12.30/3.30 Boondocks
1.00/4.00 Harvey Birdman
1.15/4.15 Harvey Birdman
1.30/4.30 Home Movies
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha


http://adultswimhq.com/thursdays.jpg May 1st
11.00/2.00 Family Guy
11.30/2.30 Family Guy
12.00/3.00 Robot Chicken
12.15/3.15 Aqua Teen Huner Force
12.30/3.30 Boondocks
1.00/4.00 Harvey Birdman
1.15/4.15 Harvey Birdman
1.30/4.30 Home Movies
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha



May 2nd
11.00/2.00 Robot Chicken
11.15/2.15 Robot Chicken
11.30/2.30 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
11.45/2.45 Aqua Teen Hunger Force
12.00/3.00 Metalocalyspe
12.15/3.15 Metalocalyspe
12.30/3.30 Boondocks
1.00/4.00 Harvey Birdman
1.15/4.15 Harvey Birdman
1.30/4.30 Home Movies
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha


http://adultswimhq.com/saturdays.jpgMay 3rd
11.00/2.00 Inuyasha
11.30/2.30 Inuyasha
12.00/3.00 Bleach
12.30/3.30 Death Note
1.00/4.00 Code Geass
1.30/4.30 Shin-Chan
5.00 Inuyasha
5.30 Inuyasha

[animePWNS]

Shin Chan
Shin and Mitzi: Holy crap! We’re normal again!
Shin: Whoa! Swollen, black and blue, but there they are, one and two!

Bleach
Urahara: What’s the matter, Rukia? You seem upset. Can I help you, with a Gigai, perhaps?
Aizen: Fortunately, before it was too late, you were found in the human world and arrested. I went immediately to Central 46 and killed--
Sajin: AAAIIIZEEEEEN!

Death Note
Misa: Hey, Light, I’ll be a good girl and go to bed by myself, okay? Mogi, Aizawa, Ide and Matsuda: :eek::o:eek::o:eek::o
Light: Yeah, good night.
Misa: Good night, everyone!
Ryuk: Guess I’ll hang out around here.

Code Geass (Premiere!)
Lelouch: Say, how should a Britannian who detests his own country live his life?
Officer: Are you some kind of radical? Huh?
Lelouch: What’s wrong? Why not shoot? Your opponent is just a school boy. Or have you finally realized? The only ones should kill are the ones who are prepared to be killed!
Officer: Unh! What’s happening here?
Lelouch: I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you! Now all of you, DIE!
Officer: Happily your highness! Fire!
*blood splatter*
Lelouch: That was the turning point. Since that day, I’ve lived a lie, the lie of living. My name, too, was a lie. My personal history, a lie. Nothing but lies. I was sick to death of a world that couldn’t be changed. But even in my lies, I refused to give up in despair. But now this incredible power—it’s mine. Well then!

CG's looking good so far.

Hey, first post after the schedule.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

new saturday schedule starting with double Inuyasha? thats just crazy :eek:

[Mugen]

Well, the new Saturday schedule is in. And its all anime again.:anime:

[Master Moltar]

New Saturday Lineup starting next week

11:00 - Inuyasha
11:30 - Inuyasha
12:00 - Bleach
12:30 - Death Note
01:00 - Code Geass
01:30 - Shin Chan

[D Dubbs]

Wait, really?

Are they starting from episode one, or what? Oh, and looks like Shin Chan is bombing really bad.

[Mugen]

New Saturday Lineup starting next week

11:00 - Inuyasha
11:30 - Inuyasha
12:00 - Bleach
12:30 - Death Note
01:00 - Code Geass
01:30 - Shin Chan

So, this is going to be the fourth time Saturday will be all-anime again. Can't say they don't want anime to be successful.

[J'onn J'onzz]

What the hell... is InuYasha still at 5 a.m. too? This is so random.

edit: at least comedy is gone

[Ishtar]

Inuyasha airing during the full 11pm hour is very random. Sucks that Shin Chan got moved to the end of the block, but at least Bleach is back at 12am now.

[Rolling Cloud]

Inuyasha? Why, just plain why? 11pm is boring again to me. (Unless, there's a good ED song. =d)

[Master Moltar]

So, this is going to be the fourth time Saturday will be all-anime again. Can't say they don't want anime to be successful.

Maybe they've just given up. None of their weaker comedies work as a lead, and they don't want to put one of their strong comedies like FG/AD/RC as the lead, so they might as well stick the strongest anime there. Unfortunately (at least for me), that's Inuyasha.

I'm kinda upset they didn't swap Death Note and Geass though. Either they have something else they're putting there after, or will just move Geass up when DN ends.

Shin Chan...yikes. I knew it was more of a weekday show when it didn't do well on Saturday way back when it first came, but ouch.

[livingfruitvirus]

Why not just put Shin on Sunday? Even at one of the weaker slots. It's stupid to classify it as "action" with the rest of the anime. Milk Chan wasn't treated that way and it was only funny if you're from Japan.

And I guess this proves MacFarlane shows are off-limits for Saturday.

[Mugen]

And AS made a commerical for Geass, sort of.

[D Dubbs]

Why Inuyasha anyway? Didn't it fail the last time they tried it as a lead-in?

[Kitschensyngk]

Here, I'll save them the trouble...

CODE GEASS SATURDAYS 1:30AM ON ADULT SWIM.

Lazy so-and-sos. It's the least they could do...

[J'onn J'onzz]

Why Inuyasha anyway? Didn't it fail the last time they tried it as a lead-in?

Well, I guess they're giving it another chance. It hasn't aired outside of the graveyard slot, or 1:30-2:30, for quite a while.

[Mugen]

Here, I'll save them the trouble...

CODE GEASS SATURDAYS 1:30AM ON ADULT SWIM.

Lazy so-and-sos. It's the least they could do...

Actually, it'll be at 1 AM next week.

[bigdeath]

OMG! They moved it up to 1:00am! Does this mean the premere did great or was this planned in advance?

[D Dubbs]

OMG! They moved it up to 1:00am! Does this mean the premere did great or was this planned in advance?
I don't think they even have accurate numbers for the premiere yet.

[Mugen]

OMG! They moved it up to 1:00am! Does this mean the premere did great or was this planned in advance?

Probably planned in advance.

[MegaJ]

Poor Shin-Chan. I actually would've kept DN at 1:00 and moved up CG at 12:30 just so DN doesn't switch slots AGAIN.

[macattack]

Actually, when they tried Inuyasha premieres on Saturdays it worked about as well as Futurama reruns. In other words, they did all right and AS was really surprised. Though chances are LOW that Inuyasha reruns will work as the leadoff.

It's really great synergy, though. Samurai Jack-Inuyasha-Bleach-Code Geass-Death Note. It would be even better if Blue Dragon was airing in front of Naruto.

[Mugen]

Actually, when they tried Inuyasha premieres on Saturdays it worked about as well as Futurama reruns. In other words, they did all right and AS was really surprised. Though chances are LOW that Inuyasha reruns will work as the leadoff.

It's really great synergy, though. Samurai Jack-Inuyasha-Bleach-Code Geass-Death Note. It would be even better if Blue Dragon was airing in front of Naruto.

Actually, Blue Dragon still will air after Naruto.

[D Dubbs]

It's really great synergy, though. Samurai Jack-Inuyasha-Bleach-Code Geass-Death Note. It would be even better if Blue Dragon was airing in front of Naruto.

They didn't switch Geass and Death Note.

Actually, Blue Dragon still will air after Naruto.

He was implying that... :sweat:

[macattack]

They didn't switch Geass and Death Note.


Oops. :sweat: I kinda assumed they had. Well, 1 a.m. is better than 1:30, I'll say that much.

[macattack]

Well, anyway, from 9-1:30 we've got a pretty decent action lineup when you include Toonami's hours into the equation. SJ's a good lead-in for Inuyasha, and Inuyasha is a stellar lead-in for Bleach, which is pretty much Inuyasha's replacement. The problem is, who will turn out for a show that's been in perpetual rerun mode for going on two years now? Yes, yes, there was Futurama, but comedy and action anime work almost entirely different.

I suppose the reason why they're keeping Bleach and Geass apart is because the main character in both series is voiced by the same actor, and I guess they don't want the shows to blend or something.

[Mugen]

Well, anyway, from 9-1:30 we've got a pretty decent action lineup when you include Toonami's hours into the equation. SJ's a good lead-in for Inuyasha, and Inuyasha is a stellar lead-in for Bleach, which is pretty much Inuyasha's replacement. The problem is, who will turn out for a show that's been in perpetual rerun mode for going on two years now? Yes, yes, there was Futurama, but comedy and action anime work almost entirely different.



Well, like you said before, Inuyasha reruns did about as well as Futurama reruns when they tried this before. Of course at this point, it doesn't mean much in terms of how the show will perform in the timeslot. Of course, IY is probably still one AS' consistent ratings grabbers, so hopefully it'll work.

But yeah, from 9-1:30, you have a good schedule full of action shows. I just hope it works. Of course, if it doesn't work, well we can't really blame AS since they did listen to the fans and chose a fan-made schedule.

As for Shin-Chan, I think they should try it on Sundays. Except the only timeslots available are the 10 pm and 1 am slots. And since I don't see AS replacing the FG rerun, 1 am would be the only other place.

[livingfruitvirus]

I suppose the reason why they're keeping Bleach and Geass apart is because the main character in both series is voiced by the same actor, and I guess they don't want the shows to blend or something.

It's probably just coincidence. Bleach and Eureka Seven aired back to back.

[D Dubbs]

It's probably just coincidence. Bleach and Eureka Seven aired back to back.

Well, Bosch's Renton sounded quite a bit different than his Ichigo. But you're probably right.

[macattack]

Well, in Japan the Inuyasha manga's beginning its final story arc so I suppose there is a chance we could see some OVAs coming, and we know that AS would jump at those, so Inuyasha may not be in rerun mode forever. That's probably why AS is still holding onto the show, the hope that the anime will eventually continue one way or another.

I could think of worse things than Inuyasha to hold down the opening hour for Saturday. Especially if they start it over. Inuyasha was actually pretty good until the overdose of filler began in the mid-50's.

They should probably try Shin-Chan on Sundays, especially since the way it is written is far more appealing to the average American than Super Milk-Chan. I agree with that. 1 am on Sundays is better than 1:30 on Saturdays, that's for certain. For the 1:30 slot they should give an old reliable (FMA, GITS, Bebop, Big O) the slot or give Trinity Blood a farewell run and that'll close out the night okay.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Saturday, April 19th


Venture: 249,000
Death Note: 235,000
Bleach: 230,000

still terrible, but in reversed order :sweat:


Up: Venture, Death Note
Down: Bleach

[Ahiru-kun]

Looks like AS is getting a bit frustrated. I wonder how long it'll be before they just completely give up on the Saturday block.

[Master Moltar]

Guess that explains the sudden change.

[Christopher Soul]

Looks like AS is getting a bit frustrated. I wonder how long it'll be before they just completely give up on the Saturday block.
Yeah.
i wouldn't be surprised if they just give saturdays back to Cartoon network... :sweat:

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Sunday, April 20th


Family Guy (11:00): 958,000
Chicken: 791,000
Am Dad: 717,000

massive dropoff :(


Down: Family Guy, Chicken
New: Am Dad

[Master Moron]

New Saturday Lineup starting next week

11:00 - Inuyasha
11:30 - Inuyasha
12:00 - Bleach
12:30 - Death Note
01:00 - Code Geass
01:30 - Shin Chan

That looks kind of like the schedule I submitted on their message boards. Only mine had double Family Guy rather than double Inu-yasha and I had Death Note and Code Geass swapped. I really don't see the point in having Death Note on earlier, since it's almost over. I also don't see the point in bringing back Inu-yasha, since they've already aired all of the episodes and it never did that great on Saturday.

I suppose the reason why they're keeping Bleach and Geass apart is because the main character in both series is voiced by the same actor, and I guess they don't want the shows to blend or something.

That would be the stupidest reason to schedule something ever.

[silverfox1027]

That looks kind of like the schedule I submitted on their message boards. Only mine had double Family Guy rather than double Inu-yasha and I had Death Note and Code Geass swapped. I really don't see the point in having Death Note on earlier, since it's almost over. I also don't see the point in bringing back Inu-yasha, since they've already aired all of the episodes and it never did that great on Saturday.

Huh? Inuyasha is one of the highest rated, if not THE highest rated [as] anime ever. It consistently performed near or above 500k, and around 350k in reruns. It was certainly a more consistent ratings grabber than DN and Bleach. It's kinda annoying that they air it so much, but it's proven that it can perform well at a consistent level.

That said, I think a decent schedule would be:

11:00 - Inuyasha
11:30 - Inuyasha
12:00 - Code Geass
12:30 - Bleach
01:00 - Death Note
01:30 - Shin-chan

Code Geass needs some more exposure (and we know [as] won't do it...DN didn't even get a promo until episode 7 or so), so I think it should go at the front of the block. And Inuyasha is not only a consistent ratings grabber (and thus the best lead-in for Geass), but is also the best bridge between [as] and Toonami, imo. Death Note and Shin-chan can close the hour, since they're both on the fix (Geass is as well, but the show should still get *some* exposure on the actual block).

[Christopher Soul]

That looks kind of like the schedule I submitted on their message boards. Only mine had double Family Guy rather than double Inu-yasha and I had Death Note and Code Geass swapped. I really don't see the point in having Death Note on earlier, since it's almost over. I also don't see the point in bringing back Inu-yasha, since they've already aired all of the episodes and it never did that great on Saturday.



That would be the stupidest reason to schedule something ever.

Actually all the way up until the end of the Band of Seven arc, InuYasha had very consistent ratings.

Honestly?
It might work.
It could bring in a whole new set of fans to InuYasha who never really saw it due to the 1AM weekday reruns or the fact it's been stuck at 5AM for so long now.

It's been a long time since InuYasha had a 11PM Saturday spot.

[Vyse]

[adult swim]: Still loaded with schizophrenia!

Wow. I learned about this from seeing their recent "Not Sucking Fridays/Saturdays" ad with the hot chick. Now, we got an additional hour of Inuyasha (this time, it's earlier!). Meanwhile, Bleach, Death Note, and Geass are all :30 minutes earlier while Shin-Chan gets to become my "watch only on ASV and the DVR in my parents' room." And, I'm in the "Shin should air on Sundays" camp.

[Sketch]

Well that's an interesting schedule but they're probably not going to solve the problem Whey don't seem to understand the key is a happy medium not one way or the other. That means a high rated comedy leading off all the action premieres. That's all they need and they still don't do it. But I'm not really complaining... all anime is neat. Though more Inuyasha is meh. I'd rather see them put an encore or rerun of Bleach right after Toonami but I guess Inuyasha might do better as with reruns it's always done the best out of their anime.

[Beat]

It'd help if Inuyasha hadn't turned from the anime Family Guy to the anime Tim and Eric over the years. This schedule seems to be ready to crash and burn all over again.

[The Collector]

Well, I have no complaints about the new schedule, though AS apparently figures premiers will do better later so they put reruns of their most constant show on first. Who can say if it will help any or not, but I doubt it can get any worse, and maybe Inuyasha was still getting some decent ratings in the graveyard slot so they decided to try it as a lead in once again.

I don't have a clue what kind of ratings AS would be happy with on Saturday, so who knows if this move will work out in their minds, even if it does raise the numbers some. Obviously, if it has no effect they'll continue to be disappointed.

[Draft]

Now only if Naruto aired at 10PM, that would prolly help [as] ratings, not CN ratings of course...

Sat ratings are getting ugly. Shin Chan didn't help at all, which is suprising to me

[Lightning Tiger]

Saturday, April 19th

Venture: 249,000
Death Note: 235,000
Bleach: 230,000still terrible, but in reversed order :sweat:


Up: Venture, Death Note
Down: Bleach

what are the raitings for Code Geass?

[Maenos]

Seeing as it premiered just this past weekend, you'll have to wait until next Sunday to find that out.

[Lightning Tiger]

Seeing as it premiered just this past weekend, you'll have to wait until next Sunday to find that out.

*slaps himself in the face*, wow, im am an idiot, all this time i assumed those ratings posted in these thread were very recent, but i just looked at the date today....... last weeks ratings huh..

[Master Moron]

Huh? Inuyasha is one of the highest rated, if not THE highest rated [as] anime ever. It consistently performed near or above 500k, and around 350k in reruns.

On Saturdays? It might have gotten above 500k on Saturdays, but I'm pretty sure that was with a Futurama lead in.

[Lightning Tiger]

actualy, i havent seen Inuyasha in a long time so il be watching it again:D

[jbanks97]

Considering Inuyasha is the only anime AS has aired pretty much every day since it started......I think it gets decent if not great ratings. And for whatever reason Inu has always gotten (and held) more of the casual audience despite it's (literally) never-ending story.

(I personally hate it and I think it skews younger than the target AS demo, but I still think it's the best option for saturday aside from bringing back futurama which aint' gonna happen)

[James Bester]

Inuyasha?? Come on. How many times has that series failed on Saturdays? I don't understand why AS insists on trying experiments that have already failed. Last time I remember, FMA at one point attracted over 700,000 viewers. Why not put that in the slot?

[Beefy]

Last time I remember, FMA at one point attracted over 700,000 viewers. Why not put that in the slot?
I thought it was only over 600,000 and that was back in season 1.
Impressive enough, but the ratings never reached that high again for season 2.

[Mugen]

(I personally hate it and I think it skews younger than the target AS demo, but I still think it's the best option for saturday aside from bringing back futurama which aint' gonna happen)

Yeah, the show skews young, but it also does well with the 18-34 group.

[SSJPabs]

Ah, I guess I should have looked in on the schedule earlier. No anime on the weeknights so I guess I'm not even turning my dial to CN except on a Saturday. Again, I say just give up on action (that is, anime).

Thanks for the memories AS, it's all we'll have left but some of those were pretty sweet.

[bigdeath]

Whats the big deal with anime on weeknights? Were they not just reruns? The new episodes of the shows I care to watch are all on satuarday night so whats with all the doom and gloom?

[SSJPabs]

Whats the big deal with anime on weeknights? Were they not just reruns? The new episodes of the shows I care to watch are all on satuarday night so whats with all the doom and gloom?I am usually busy on Saturday nights. On weeknights I stay in and study and it's been a long time (5 years) since AS premiered an original comedy I didn't hate with the sole exception of Boondocks.

I don't blame them for it, the anime fad ignited by Pokemon and Dragonball was just that, a fad. Shame on me for not realizing it a few years back I'll just go back to looking for interesting stuff coming out on DVD, compared to pre-1997 things are much better than they used to be.

[Zach Logan]

Were there any Saturday promos this week?

[jbanks97]

Inuyasha?? Come on. How many times has that series failed on Saturdays? I don't understand why AS insists on trying experiments that have already failed. Last time I remember, FMA at one point attracted over 700,000 viewers. Why not put that in the slot?

That was with Futurama as lead in before the series took a half-way break. When it returned it never pulled in numbers close to that.

[Scirel]

ratings never really did recover from the slam they took when FMA and GITS were stopped halfway for As to change the entire ASA schedule.

Futurama -> FMA-> GITS was ASA's top rated schedule, and it's pattern should be followed.

AD/FG-> Bleach -> CG/DN ->DN/CG

would be the ideal, but I think it's understood that there must be a contractual thing where the mcfarlane duo can`t air on saturdays, because they never have.

[Master Moron]

Inuyasha?? Come on. How many times has that series failed on Saturdays? I don't understand why AS insists on trying experiments that have already failed. Last time I remember, FMA at one point attracted over 700,000 viewers. Why not put that in the slot?

They tried putting Full Metal Alchemist reruns on Saturdays at the beginning of the year. They didn't do very well.

[Beat]

1. Code Geass is not approved by Pizza Hut US. If WS's plan was for Pizza Hut to pimp their show, well that backfired. Even so, the nastiness of Pizza Hut compared to a good New York pizzarea or even Uno's keeps me from regretting the decision.

2. Inu-Yasha set to lead off the new Saturday schedule, because WS is butthurt by bad ratings and Shin Chan's failure- At this point, Inu-Yasha is the Wizards version of Michael Jordan, the Tyson to Family Guy's Lennox Lewis, the Matt Hughes to Family Guy's George St. Pierre...you get the idea. The craggy veteran that is IY can still draw a few hardcore fans, but until Rumiko gets a new series or some OVA's on the second half of the manga commissioned, the vet can't win the fight.

3. WS is butthurt by Shin-Chan's failure- The last time this happened was when Lupin III bombed and AS took it out on Inu-Yasha. This time, you think they'll take it out on Bleach for Shin Chan's fail?

4. Watching Street Fighter on Sci-Fi made me realize one thing. AS couldn't air the Chun-Li shower scene either.

5. Saying American Dad isn't a big success seems to be about right. You'd figure people would flock to another Seth show, but apparently that's only for Family Guy.

6. Your moment of Zen- "I'm a police officer. I need more cotton candy!"

[bigdeath]

I am usually busy on Saturday nights.

Record the show somehow. Oh, and Code Geass and death note are online to be viewed for a whole week.


5. Saying American Dad isn't a big success seems to be about right. You'd figure people would flock to another Seth show, but apparently that's only for Family Guy.

Thats because American Dad sucks. I hate the show and the characters. Why? I'm honesty not sure but I can't stand them. :sweat:

[Mugen]

5. Saying American Dad isn't a big success seems to be about right. You'd figure people would flock to another Seth show, but apparently that's only for Family Guy.



Its doing about as well as when Futurama was on Sunday nights. It's not doing FG or RC numbers, but its holding up well.

[HG Revolution]

Is Shin-Chan a failure? It's doing awful on Saturdays, but didn't it do pretty well on weekdays? Maybe they should just move it weekdays or even a later slot on Sunday.

[Speedy Boris]

Thats because American Dad sucks. I hate the show and the characters. Why? I'm honesty not sure but I can't stand them. :sweat: OK fine, you hate the show and the characters. But that doesn't mean it factually sucks; it's just that you don't personally care for it. A little tact goes a long way.

[Mugen]

We haven't done this in a while, but I decided to post the averages for AS from the week before.

Week of 4/21-4/27

Total Day Viewers: 869,000(although Cynopsis says 1,031,000)

18-34: 476,000(#1 for cable last week)

18-49: 603,000(#4 for cable last week)

25-54: 354,000(#10 for cable last week)

Programs:

Family Guy: 1,351,000 18-34(#9 for cable)


And here are the kids ratings:

2-11: 160,000

6-11: 107,000

9-14: 149,000


So, yeah, looks like going to all comedy on weekdays is helping AS.

[bigdeath]

OK fine, you hate the show and the characters. But that doesn't mean it factually sucks; it's just that you don't personally care for it. A little tact goes a long way.

Me Tactful? When have I ever had tact? :p

[livingfruitvirus]

Total Day Viewers: 869,000(although Cynopsis says 1,031,000)

That's because the first number is households, and the second number is people 2+.

[Mugen]

That's because the first number is households, and the second number is people 2+.

Yeah, that makes sense now.:sweat:

[Draft]

1. Code Geass is not approved by Pizza Hut US. If WS's plan was for Pizza Hut to pimp their show, well that backfired. Even so, the nastiness of Pizza Hut compared to a good New York pizzarea or even Uno's keeps me from regretting the decision.

I never really considered Uno's a pizza joint, since they serve a lot more than pizza than Pizza Hut does (or did, read somewhere they're adding pasta and chicken, kinda wtf to me but w/e)

American Dad isn't as popular because it doesn't have really any cutaways and has less funny characters. I think I like it better than FG recently, but I still watch FG a lot more.

I probably already said this, but i'm still suprised that Shin Chan bombed that badly. I guess that they'll try and put it on weekdays again displacing Oblongs/Stroker Hoop in June

Anime-less Weekdays ratings up is no suprise. Convienient for [as] to lose 4 liscences (Trinity, Champloo, Paranoia, Blood +) this year, since that'll leave them with 2 premiring shows (Bleach, Geass), 3 popular shows with many eps (Inyuasha, FMA, Death Note), and some oldies (Anything other than Bebop still?)

[Beat]

Everyone moaning the ratings needs to remember the shows being reran were quite old at this point.

[SSJPabs]

1. Code Geass is not approved by Pizza Hut US. If WS's plan was for Pizza Hut to pimp their show, well that backfired. Even so, the nastiness of Pizza Hut compared to a good New York pizzarea or even Uno's keeps me from regretting the decision.

3. WS is butthurt by Shin-Chan's failure- The last time this happened was when Lupin III bombed and AS took it out on Inu-Yasha. This time, you think they'll take it out on Bleach for Shin Chan's fail?

Stuffed Crust Pizza Hut Pizza is the One True God, admit it.

I could have told them Shin-Chan would bomb. Basic animation, and it's hard for little kids to be consistently funny, especially if there's a large element of cultural humor. Though I thought Lupin III was three shakes of hilarious and one of awesome so I guess I'm all hit and miss. So wait, was there a consensus that WS screwed up the anime ratings by shifting the schedules from Futurama -> FMA -> GITS? I blame Fox!

How much of the declining ratings is just that there are less good anime shows coming out than their used to be--or rather, companies are focusing more on the bottom line and making shows for the lowest common denominator?

[Master Moltar]

For anyone who doubted the new Saturday schedule. It's now appearing on zap2it.

Inuyasha 11 PM hour starts from episode 1, while the 5 AM hour of IY continues.

[Beat]

How much of the declining ratings is just that there are less good anime shows coming out than their used to be--or rather, companies are focusing more on the bottom line and making shows for the lowest common denominator?

That and all the good shows (Good of course being a subjective term) ending up on other networks.

In the last year, we've seen Hellsing Ultimate, Desert Punk, Black Lagoon, Solid State Society, Witchblade, Speed Grapher, etc, etc, all go on places besides Adult Swim. A few years ago, if you had a big show and ADV didn't own it, the question was when it was going to come to Adult Swim. Now the question is if.

And the only chain pizza I can stand is Uno's. Chicago Deep Dish FTW.

[JTurner954]

First Shin Wars bombs and then the series is moved to 1:30 a.m. ... and I couldn't be happier because I know it's only a matter of time before the show is gone altogether. This has become Funimation's worst show and its forced humor actually gives me a stomach ache.

This time, you think they'll take it out on Bleach for Shin Chan's fail?

They might as well change Toonami and Adult Swim to "Viz Vision" because I see more Viz Media shows than anyone else. Funimation is obviously the one that's suffering as Shin is the only Funi show on right now. If IFC doesn't have all of Funimation's best shows, then I want them to air on CN. Trinity Blood and Shin Chan are not making the grade.


I'm sad to see Metalocalypse go, but I'm not mad to see Inuyasha for an hour. It's the only way I'll get to see something Detective Conan related on AS (if or when they air that episode) and it has everything to get viewers: Action, comedy, romance.

Besides, the schedule will change again so there's no reason to get angry. The ratings will be the same no matter how they change it up (sans RC and FG) so relax. If you really hate AS's actions, stop watching.

And yes, American Dad sucks. However, the commercials on Adult Swim have shown a significant improvement in misleading viewers that the rest of the show is funny.

[Mugen]

And yes, American Dad sucks. However, the commercials on Adult Swim have shown a significant improvement in misleading viewers that the rest of the show is funny.

Like Speedy said in an earlier post: You might not like it, but it doesn't mean it factually sucks.

[Sketch]

I for one enjoy American Dad.

[macattack]

American Dad is the McFarlane Futurama. In other words, it's a heck of a lot more funny than the first series created.

[bigdeath]

Like Speedy said in an earlier post: You might not like it, but it doesn't mean it factually sucks.

American Dad has been scientifically proven to suck and to be bad for your health by the FDA. :p

[JTurner954]

Like Speedy said in an earlier post: You might not like it, but it doesn't mean it factually sucks.

I never said it was a fact. I merely agreed with a previous post that also disliked AD.

Many of you are taking these changes way too seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if the AS crew is laughing because they know you'll continue to watch no matter what they do. If they aired The Simpsons, a show the majority of the internet despises, I bet many of you will watch it anyway.

If you really want a change, don't watch the channel/block. I stopped watching Toonami once Blue Dragon aired and now I hear they are airing an Indiana Jones special. Obviously it's an attempt to get viewers and it will probably work. Once Death Note ends, I'll probably stop watching Adult Swim Saturdays. Bleach has become very repetitive (I've determined that's the #1 problem with anime) and Geass (so far) appears to take itself too seriously.

[Darklordavaitor]

American Dad is the McFarlane Futurama. In other words, it's a heck of a lot more funny than the first series created.
Agreed. At least American Dad! doesn't rely on obscure pop culture references and dull cutaway scenes.

[SSJPabs]

Agreed. At least American Dad! doesn't rely on obscure pop culture references and dull cutaway scenes.At the risk of anyone thinking for a minute that I actually like South Park (hate it!), their critique of Family Guy was 100% spot on.

[FightingDreamer]

Shifting gears for a moment... Watching the classic ATHF episode "Ballooenstein" last night, I reflected on how much better it is (well, at least seasons 1-2, although the latter seasons certainly have their moments) than a lot of AS' subsequent shows. Oh, Robot Chicken has its moments, and I've chuckled a few times at Squidbillies, Moral Orel, The Boondocks, and even the dreaded Metalocalypse (that is to say, I dread it, and depise it). But ATHF can still make me outright laugh, such as this gag in "Balloonenstein":

Meatwad: Everybody hates me because they die or get hurt. Well Squirrelly doesn't hate me, he loves me. Where's my buddy Squirrelly?
Frylock: Oh here he is. I found him faceup in the hallway after your last little hug.
Meatwad: Squirrelly no! Squirrelly... Squirrelly.
Frylock: Yeah, I think you better stop huggin' him now, he's startin' to smoke.
(We see that "Squirrelly" is indeed starting to smoke)
Meatwad: NO!!!!

[MegaJ]

This is from G4's Open Source site (a website where viewers send questions to G4's president):

“If there was enough demand for it, would you show anime during the Duty Free TV?”user: ChelseaDagger
See my first answer above regarding “niche” programming. We’ve been very frustrated by Anime in the past.…We want it to rate,…we would expect it to rate,…but in the end… it just doesn’t. While I don’t want to speak for our friends over at Adult Swim, we watch how it performs for them, which isn’t all that strong. I fear that Anime, like other niche content, is something best served in an “On Demand” platform.

[bigdeath]

Geass (so far) appears to take itself too seriously.

:eek: WHAT? Geass takes itself too seriously? With the amount of fanservice and crazy improbable events in the show? :eek: Give the poor show a chance.

[Christopher Soul]

Thars very interesting.
It proves Williams Street continues to have faith in anime ratings while other channels Do Not.

Also, outside of a "On Demand" via Digital Cable, makes me wonder if G4 would try a "Anime Unleashed On the Net"

And there is still a cult following on Anime Unleashed fans that built up over time, thus to see G4 destroy it.

[Mugen]

Thars very interesting.
It proves Williams Street continues to have faith in anime ratings while other channels Do Not.



Exactly. While WS has some faults when they handle anime(some justified, some aren't), they haven't given up on anime like G4 did. It sucks that they took anime off weekdays, but clearly the anime wasn't doing that great. Even though anime has been cut down considerably, they haven't given up on it. Another anime is coming soon and for the fourth time, they're making Saturdays all anime again. Most networks would have given up, but AS hasn't. We wish all networks had that much patience.

[Lightning Tiger]

thats because the people at Williams Street are fools, foolish foolish fools.

[Christopher Soul]

thats because the people at Williams Street are fools, foolish foolish fools.
<.<
>.>

Shut up!
You'll only piss them off more!

[bigdeath]

They said it themselves, They suck. But at least with Code Geass they suck a little bit less. :p

I feel bad for them, sucking all day long every day must be exhausting. :evil:

[KZK]

or even Uno's

What's an "Uno's"?


How much of the declining ratings is just that there are less good anime shows coming out than their used to be--or rather, companies are focusing more on the bottom line and making shows for the lowest common denominator?

Dont Be Absurd. Their are plenty of great shows that have been made over the past few years that do not focus on the LCD, some of them were even licensed. When They Cry (Higurashi), Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Haibane-Renmei, Rumbling Hearts, Kamichu!, Princess Tutu, Shakugan no Shana, Mushi-Shi, Air, Azumanga Daioh, Noein, Ergo Proxy, Noir, Strawberry Marshmallow, Scrapped Princess, Gunslinger Girl, Peach Girl, Le Chevalier D'eon, Red Garden, etc. The list goes on and on. I put all of those above the "Desert Punk, Black Lagoon,..., Witchblade, Speed Grapher" somebody else mentioned.

[Beat]

What's an "Uno's"?

Uno's is a sit-down restaurant specalizing in Chicago-style deep dish pizza. (http://www.unos.com/) It actually does pretty well all things considered, since there's one in Brooklyn that does pretty well.

Also, one of their personal pizzas is enough to fill someone completely.



Dont Be Absurd. Their are plenty of great shows that have been made over the past few years that do not focus on the LCD, some of them were even licensed. When They Cry (Higurashi), Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Haibane-Renmei, Rumbling Hearts, Kamichu!, Princess Tutu, Shakugan no Shana, Mushi-Shi, Air, Azumanga Daioh, Noein, Ergo Proxy, Noir, Strawberry Marshmallow, Scrapped Princess, Gunslinger Girl, Peach Girl, Le Chevalier D'eon, Red Garden, etc. The list goes on and on. I put all of those above the "Desert Punk, Black Lagoon,..., Witchblade, Speed Grapher" somebody else mentioned.

Nearly every last show you mentioned is mostly targeting a niche otaku audience. The few that aren't aired on IFC, proving my point further.

Mushi-Shi. LOL. I heard that was horrible.

[Speedy Boris]

Mushi-Shi. LOL. I heard that was horrible. Really? Most every review/discussion on the show I've read said it was excellent and criminally underrated.

[Darklordavaitor]

Dont Be Absurd. Their are plenty of great shows that have been made over the past few years that do not focus on the LCD, some of them were even licensed. When They Cry (Higurashi), Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Haibane-Renmei, Rumbling Hearts, Kamichu!, Princess Tutu, Shakugan no Shana, Mushi-Shi, Air, Azumanga Daioh, Noein, Ergo Proxy, Noir, Strawberry Marshmallow, Scrapped Princess, Gunslinger Girl, Peach Girl, Le Chevalier D'eon, Red Garden, etc. The list goes on and on. I put all of those above the "Desert Punk, Black Lagoon,..., Witchblade, Speed Grapher" somebody else mentioned.
Keep that hackjob dub away from [as] until the series gets the proper treatment it deserves

[Beat]

Really? Most every review/discussion on the show I've read said it was excellent and criminally underrated.

I might be thinking of something else...AGAIN. It's still a niche show, and that's the last thing Adult Swim as a whole needs right now.

[Speedy Boris]

I might be thinking of something else...AGAIN. It's still a niche show, and that's the last thing Adult Swim as a whole needs right now. You might be thinking of the similarly-named Mushi-Uta, but like Mushi-Shi, I don't know if either series is any good or not, having not seen either.

[KZK]

When They Cry (Higurashi), Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Haibane-Renmei, Rumbling Hearts, Kamichu!, Princess Tutu, Shakugan no Shana, Mushi-Shi, Air, Azumanga Daioh, Noein, Ergo Proxy, Noir, Strawberry Marshmallow, Scrapped Princess, Gunslinger Girl, Peach Girl, Le Chevalier D'eon, Red Garden, etc.

Nearly every last show you mentioned is mostly targeting a niche otaku audience. The few that aren't aired on IFC, proving my point further.

Mushi-Shi. LOL. I heard that was horrible.

You heard Wrong.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5923


I'll break it down for you since you don't understand what I was saying: I listed those shows exactly because the have almost no fanservice or super-deformed animation. They are not shows that appeal to the so called lowest common denominator, the way "Desert Punk, Black Lagoon, Witchblade, Speed Grapher" so obviously do. I also listed those shows because they are some of the best anime shows made in recent years that have been licensed.

I'll list how they are ranked at ANN:
When They Cry (Higurashi) (Excellent Seen By #145)
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (Excellent Seen by #12)
Haibane-Renmei (Excellent Seen by #61)
Rumbling Hearts (Very good Seen by #97)
Kamichu! (Very good Seen by #469)
Princess Tutu (Excellent Seen by #418)
Shakugan no Shana (Very good Seen by #104)
Mushi-Shi (Excellent Seen by #103)
Air (Very good Seen by #46)
Azumanga Daioh (Excellent Seen by #18)
Noein (Very good Seen by #251)
Ergo Proxy (Very good Seen by #127)
Noir (Very good Seen by #73)
Strawberry Marshmallow (Very good Seen by #425)
Scrapped Princess (Very good Seen by #107)
Gunslinger Girl (Very good Seen by #76)
Peach Girl (Good Seen by #490) -Follows Manga Exactly.
Le Chevalier D'eon (Very good Seen by #413)
Red Garden (Very good Seen by #792)

Your argument fails for two reasons: As you can see, the titles I listed are among the most highly rated and well known (at ANN).

Only GunslingerGirl aired on IFC. Noein Aired on Sci-Fi. Ergo Proxy Aired on Fuse. The Rest have not Aired Anywhere.

When They Cry (Higurashi)

Keep that hackjob dub away from [as] until the series gets the proper treatment it deserves.

What Exactly was wrong with it? Do not give spoilers beyond ep 14.

[Beat]

I'll break it down for you since you don't understand what I was saying: I listed those shows exactly because the have almost no fanservice or super-deformed animation. They are not shows that appeal to the so called lowest common denominator, the way "Desert Punk, Black Lagoon, Witchblade, Speed Grapher" so obviously do. I also listed those shows because they are some of the best anime shows made in recent years that have been licensed.

I'll list how they are ranked at ANN:
When They Cry (Higurashi) (Excellent Seen By #145)
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (Excellent Seen by #12)
Haibane-Renmei (Excellent Seen by #61)
Rumbling Hearts (Very good Seen by #97)
Kamichu! (Very good Seen by #469)
Princess Tutu (Excellent Seen by #418)
Shakugan no Shana (Very good Seen by #104)
Mushi-Shi (Excellent Seen by #103)
Air (Very good Seen by #46)
Azumanga Daioh (Excellent Seen by #18)
Noein (Very good Seen by #251)
Ergo Proxy (Very good Seen by #127)
Noir (Very good Seen by #73)
Strawberry Marshmallow (Very good Seen by #425)
Scrapped Princess (Very good Seen by #107)
Gunslinger Girl (Very good Seen by #76)
Peach Girl (Good Seen by #490) -Follows Manga Exactly.
Le Chevalier D'eon (Very good Seen by #413)
Red Garden (Very good Seen by #792)

Your argument fails for two reasons: As you can see, the titles I listed are among the most highly rated and well known (at ANN).

Yeah, and as we've seen, more often than not, that doesn't account for jack in the ratings wars. Airing the shows on that list would doom ASA faster than starting the block with Tim and Eric reruns. More importantly, a lot of those titles are obtuse and unappealing to anyone without a major in Japanese culture.

And what the hell is wrong with fanservice? All of Adult Swim's shows as of late have avoided it like the plague save Bleach, and now Bleach is the only show actually performing.

[Darklordavaitor]

What Exactly was wrong with it? Do not give spoilers beyond ep 14.
All I will say is watch episode 1 subbed and watch it again dubbed, and you'll be more likely to find a significant difference in acting quality.

Note that this is coming from a guy who normally can't stand Japanese VAs, but IMO, Higurashi's one of the good ones.

[KZK]

Yeah, and as we've seen, more often than not, that doesn't account for jack in the ratings wars.

Who said anything about Ratings? If what some other posters on these threads have said is true, then Noein is besting anything [as] has aired Anime-wise by a good margin.

Airing the shows on that list would doom ASA faster than starting the block with Tim and Eric reruns. More importantly, a lot of those titles are obtuse and unappealing to anyone without a major in Japanese culture.

I Would like for you explain in detail how each of these shows are niche:
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Shakugan no Shana,
Noein, Ergo Proxy, Noir, Scrapped Princess, Le Chevalier D'eon, Red Garden.

I Would also like for you to explain in detail why an extensive knowledge of Japanese culture is nessesary to Enjoy or Understand each of these shows:
When They Cry (Higurashi), Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Haibane-Renmei, Rumbling Hearts, Princess Tutu, Shakugan no Shana, Mushi-Shi, Noein, Ergo Proxy, Noir, Strawberry Marshmallow, Scrapped Princess, Gunslinger Girl, Peach Girl, Le Chevalier D'eon, or Red Garden.

I don't think it's even nessesary to understand Japanese culture for these shows: Kamichu!, Air, Azumanga Daioh, but whatever. At least not anymore than that Strawberry Shinigami Show people go on and on about.

And what the hell is wrong with fanservice? All of Adult Swim's shows as of late have avoided it like the plague save Bleach, and now Bleach is the only show actually performing.

I'm not against fan service. I didn't make the current schedule. I've made my schedule preferences known both here and elsewhere.


All I will say is watch episode 1 subbed and watch it again dubbed, and you'll be more likely to find a significant difference in acting quality.

Note that this is coming from a guy who normally can't stand Japanese VAs, but IMO, Higurashi's one of the good ones.

I don't go back and rewatch episodes of mysteries until I've seen all of it. That way I don't pick up extra spoilers that I didn't notice the first time through. I'm also holding off on finding fansubs, because I'm still hoping that it can be properly rescued and Finished.

[HG Revolution]

You heard Wrong.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5923


I'll break it down for you since you don't understand what I was saying: I listed those shows exactly because the have almost no fanservice or super-deformed animation. They are not shows that appeal to the so called lowest common denominator, the way "Desert Punk, Black Lagoon, Witchblade, Speed Grapher" so obviously do. I also listed those shows because they are some of the best anime shows made in recent years that have been licensed.

I'll list how they are ranked at ANN:
When They Cry (Higurashi) (Excellent Seen By #145)
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (Excellent Seen by #12)
Haibane-Renmei (Excellent Seen by #61)
Rumbling Hearts (Very good Seen by #97)
Kamichu! (Very good Seen by #469)
Princess Tutu (Excellent Seen by #418)
Shakugan no Shana (Very good Seen by #104)
Mushi-Shi (Excellent Seen by #103)
Air (Very good Seen by #46)
Azumanga Daioh (Excellent Seen by #18)
Noein (Very good Seen by #251)
Ergo Proxy (Very good Seen by #127)
Noir (Very good Seen by #73)
Strawberry Marshmallow (Very good Seen by #425)
Scrapped Princess (Very good Seen by #107)
Gunslinger Girl (Very good Seen by #76)
Peach Girl (Good Seen by #490) -Follows Manga Exactly.
Le Chevalier D'eon (Very good Seen by #413)
Red Garden (Very good Seen by #792)

Azumanga Daioh not having lots of SD scenes? Did you see the same show I saw?

I haven't seen Higurashi, but from the sound of it, it is a lowest common denominator show. Maybe it has some greater depth, but Black Lagoon also has depth.

Please, for the love of God, don't suggest AS should show Air. It's the epitome of almost all that is wrong with the current state of the anime industry; it just happens to be better animated than most of the shows it shares its problems with.

Now, Le Chavalier D'eon might actually have a chance at doing well on TV. I've only seen a little bit of it, but I did get FMA-esque vibes from the show. It may be a bit rough to market, but it has appeal to a pretty big crowd. Too bad ADV got it.

[KZK]

Azumanga Daioh not having lots of SD scenes? Did you see the same show I saw?

I said almost no, not no, super deformed. Peach Girl And Kamichu! also have some Super deformed elements.


I haven't seen Higurashi, but from the sound of it, it is a lowest common denominator show. Maybe it has some greater depth, but Black Lagoon also has depth.

It's a bloody hack and slash mystery. With very cute characters. Divided up into 4 episode chapters. That's as much as I'll spoil anything.

Please, for the love of God, don't suggest AS should show Air. It's the epitome of almost all that is wrong with the current state of the anime industry; it just happens to be better animated than most of the shows it shares its problems with.

Shrug.

Now, Le Chavalier D'eon might actually have a chance at doing well on TV. I've only seen a little bit of it, but I did get FMA-esque vibes from the show. It may be a bit rough to market, but it has appeal to a pretty big crowd. Too bad ADV got it.

[MegaJ]

Hmm. I don't know about Haruhi being niche, it's found quite a following. I'm not sure if AS would every give it a try. I haven't seen the series but I think the plot is told out of order and is complicated as all Hell so I think that eliminates it from being ran.

How about Chobits? It looks recent enough and I think it has a decent chance of doing well as it doesn't require a lot of commitment and it's pretty damn funny.

[SSJPabs]

Allow me to throw in my vote for Le Chavalier D'eon. I would be flipping out about the lack of historical accuracy every other episode I'm sure, but that doesn't mean I think it's a bad show and as long as it had some historically accurate things I would be fine with it....

Little tidbits that were historically accurate along with it's stupendously intelligent dialog are what drew me to Reign after all.

[herbkir]

Whether we like Adult Swim's show selection or not, fact is they are the only channel that's consistently stuck with anime as part of their program mix. G4 dropped it, not enough ratings. Fuse dropped anime, I guess for the same reasons. Spike appeared to have a success with Afro Samurai but hasn't run anything else so far. SciFi recently resumed running it but I haven't seen anything reliable on how well anime has done there.

Face it, much as we love anime, it IS niche programming that the typical casual TV viewer finds disturbing and hard to comprehend. If [AS] were only interested in ratings, they'd drop anime altogether and fill Saturday nights with comedy reruns. I'm glad they're keeping anime on their schedule and buying new shows.

I've seen about half the titles on KZK's list and enjoyed them all. But would the ones I've seen have mass-market appeal? No, they wouldn't. (^_*)

[Rolling Cloud]

And, Inuyasha begins, Episode 1 out of 167.

[Mugen]

And Inuyasha gets its own special bumps.

[Christopher Soul]

Actually i think they're the same bumps from the IY movie marathon.

[Mugen]

Actually i think they're the same bumps from the IY movie marathon.

They are, but the fact that AS didn't have to bring them back shows they do care for the show.

And AS made a commerical promoting the schedules for Friday and Saturday. Using a hot woman for it as well.:sweat::cool:

[Christopher Soul]

Ha.
Like people will watch InuYasha.. even if a Hot Chick says to...

Then again..
InuYasha is [as]'s DBZ...
And Bleach is it's Naruto..
(as in the second coming)

[Kitschensyngk]

So the rumors are true. Adult Swim's original Saturday lead-in has come home to roost.

I don't see this lasting very long, but if it jacks up ratings even a little bit, I won't complain.

[Captain Highwind]

Inuyasha saying 'Hella nasty' kinda takes away from the Feudal atmosphere...

Oh never mind.

[Christopher Soul]

New Bumps for the night?
Hm.
Cool.

[Jeffrey]

New Bumps for the night?
Hm.
Cool.Are these bumps getting shorter, or is it just me?

[{Shadow}]

Are these bumps getting shorter, or is it just me?
Yes, they've been cut in half. The new bumps are only about 5 seconds long now.