C&C - Code Geass - "The Day A New Demon Was Born" [4/26] [Archive]

FightingDreamer

04-25-2008, 05:02 PM

Hmm... definitely interesting, though I think I'll watch tomorrow night's showing as well (stupid Fix keeps slowing down and freezing).
Random thoughts:
-CLAMP designs for the win, although I'm not sure if they've ever drawn females this, uh, "endowed" before.
-Great voice cast. Liam O'Brien (Lloyd) is always so much fun to listen to when he gets to be smug and arrogant; the same goes for Crispin Freeman (Jeremiah) and Sam Regal (Clovis).
-The "Shinjuku Ghetto" scene is brutal stuff, as is the (apparently) first use of the Geass: "Now all of you... DIE!"
-You have to wonder how the pitch for this show went: "Politics, mech combat, mind control, and ultra-pretty characters? Why the hell not?"
-Is Shirley supposed to have a lisp or is that just a quirk of the English VA?
-Wow, I thought "Lulu" was just a fan nickname.

Overall, I am sufficiently intrigued to continue watching.

Katsumara

04-25-2008, 05:18 PM

I'm not sure about the lisp for Shirley. I think it's just because of the Amercan voice actress, but her voice wasn't as bad as I was thinking it *could* be. She has a cute voice.

I must say though, I am surprised. Bosch's Lulu didn't disappoint me as much as I thought it may. =[ I feel like a jerk for being such a big critic about it before ever seeing it, so I apologize.

Everything else, I'll talk about after the airing tomorrow night.

ShadowGUN

04-25-2008, 05:25 PM

Thanks for reminded me about it. I almost forgot the show started this week.

macattack

04-25-2008, 05:28 PM

Editing? What editing? :p

v1cious

04-25-2008, 05:36 PM

Editing? What editing? :p

what was cut, other than the outro? i don't remember.

garfield15

04-25-2008, 05:55 PM

The outro was cut? Darn that kinda stinks. I really like that song

HG Revolution

04-25-2008, 06:20 PM

Those first two minutes are going to scare a lot of people off with the silly nationalism.

Fortunately, the rest of this episode was interesting. Very silly, but in a fun way. With intriguing characters, cool technology, and great animation, there's plenty of directions this could go.

bigdeath

04-25-2008, 06:28 PM

Watched and I find the dub decent enough. Those who never hear the Japanese VAs are certainly not going to have a problem with the English VAs.

No, Lulu is not a fan nickname, neither is Orange-kun. but Table girl is a fan name for a certain infamous/beloved character :p

Those first two minutes are going to scare a lot of people off with the silly nationalism.

Overly sensitive people should not watch this show. Those who love Fan-service (for both male and females, this is an equal opportunity show ;) ), Over the top Mecha battles, smart anti-hero and his scheming and, of course, plenty of bloody violence), please enjoy the show.

Also, I don't think anything was edited from the show. This first eppy has enough to get you intrested but next episode is where the real action begins.

River26

04-25-2008, 06:31 PM

what was cut, other than the outro? i don't remember.

If you also remember the ending to .hack//G.U, which was cut short. The same happened to the ending of Code Geass. Normally the tv-sized anime ending can last more than 1 min.

In anycase though, this' the network version that'll premiere on Adult Swim as well. If you want to see it in it's intierny, then it's probably best to get the DVD.

johnny139

04-25-2008, 07:05 PM

That was... mediocre. I'll keep watching, of course, and it's certainly not BAD... but it feels very dry. The characters are (so far) generic, and the "evil empire" thing has been done to death. The ending certainly held out a hook, but I just don't feel very excited to see the next episode, like I do with Bleach, Death Note, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Paranoia Agent (all of the other AS anime I'm currently keeping up with).

Maybe it's just the fact it's Episode One, though, and it's really the best thing ever. Like I said, I'll keep watching...

...oh, and I DO love the portrayal of the Prince. A corrupt Royal Family is always fun.

Ishtar

04-25-2008, 07:08 PM

That was actually very good for a first episode. It got to the action pretty quickly, which was good. Lelouch is quite interesting for the main character, and I like his daring and rebellious personality. That Britannian officer was such a jerk, especially when he shot Suzaku like that. It was awesome when the officer and his mens killed themselves under the power Lelouch gained from that mysterious girl. The voice acting seems decent, too.

bigdeath

04-25-2008, 07:16 PM

That was... mediocre.

Like I said, the real action beings next episode. If the second episode doesn't hook you then I don't know what will.

Also, the name of the show is incorrect. Its:

Code Bankai: Ichigo of the Rebellion

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :p

SpiritualRemain

04-25-2008, 07:27 PM

-CLAMP designs for the win, although I'm not sure if they've ever drawn females this, uh, "endowed" before.

There's (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/034547788X/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books) always (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00127R2WE/sr=1-3/qid=1209165869/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd&qid=1209165869&sr=1-3) Yuko (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00127R2VU/sr=1-5/qid=1209165953/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=130&s=dvd&qid=1209165953&sr=1-5)
:o

XOMiss_Samantha

04-25-2008, 07:36 PM

GEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS.
CC...hm. Well, she's not my favorite voice but JYB is a little better than he was in the trailers. Not bad. I...take back alot of what I said. This is quite good.
Lulu. I sure do love Lulu. You have no idea.

This was a very enjoyable episode. It's been awhile since I've seen it, now with R2 starting at just the perfect time. Doubley Geass.
The women of Geass, give or take Kallen, bother the hell out of me for some reason. This lisp is going to get annoying.

Clovis! He sounds great. Too bad the nobles are all ******bags. Especially him. And Crispin! He fits his character very well. Even Lloyd!
Oh Suzaku, I miss it when you were still like this.

Geass has only just begun. This will become intense!
And away we go~

FightingDreamer

04-25-2008, 07:47 PM

Clovis! He sounds great. Too bad the nobles are all ******bags. Especially him. And Crispin! He fits his character very well. Even Lloyd!

Ah, they may be ******bags, but they are very, very fun to watch so far. Characters that are just so over-the-top and relentless in their ******bag status always manage to make me smile.

Captain Highwind

04-25-2008, 07:51 PM

Gah, that GTA IV ad is annoying.

So is the crazy scientist guy voiced by Quintin Flynn? He's starting to sound like Mark Hamill.

FightingDreamer

04-25-2008, 07:56 PM

Gah, that GTA IV ad is annoying.

So is the crazy scientist guy voiced by Quintin Flynn? He's starting to sound like Mark Hamill.

Er, if you mean Lloyd (the guy with the silver hair and glasses who kept mocking the fat bald guy), then no; that's Liam O'Brien.

XOMiss_Samantha

04-25-2008, 07:57 PM

Ah, they may be ******bags, but they are very, very fun to watch so far. Characters that are just so over-the-top and relentless in their ******bag status always manage to make me smile.

*Thinks of Clovis and smiles*
It's great. They're so full of themselves. The royal egos must be bigger than Britannia its self.
Good thing Lulu rocks at chess- although, he's not so 'pure' himself.

Lightning Tiger

04-25-2008, 08:11 PM

like, Clovis sounds like Emergy Maxfell from S-Cry-Ed (the guy who's alter was a giant robot).

i forgot how annoying that guy sounded.

River26

04-25-2008, 08:48 PM

Gah, that GTA IV ad is annoying.

So is the crazy scientist guy voiced by Quintin Flynn? He's starting to sound like Mark Hamill.

Well, as said. It's either better to get it on DVD or watch the broadcast version of the anime on CN's A.S.

garfield15

04-25-2008, 08:51 PM

Does anyone else keep thinking that Jeremiah is going to just randomly yell out "Launch the Nirvash...I mean Kinghtmare Frames"

XOMiss_Samantha

04-25-2008, 08:54 PM

Does anyone else keep thinking that Jeremiah is going to just randomly yell out "Launch the Nirvash...I mean Kinghtmare Frames"

Hahah
Before or after he makes a comment about Haruhi Suzumiya dragging him around the club room?

Jeremiah ranks as one of my new favorite Crispin roles. I reaaaally think he suits him perfectly.

bigdeath

04-25-2008, 08:55 PM

Does anyone else keep thinking that Jeremiah is going to just randomly yell out "Launch the Nirvash...I mean Kinghtmare Frames"

Yeah, Crispin using his holland voice. Thats for sure. :sweat: Though I agree with Sam. The role fits him perfectly.

River26

04-25-2008, 09:21 PM

Oh, that was him ^^? With his "Congratulations" speech :D.

Speedy Boris

04-25-2008, 09:23 PM

I love CC's debut. Such beautiful animation.

Vocal performances seem fine so far, and I'm not terribly picky how close they sound to the Japanese cast, and besides, it's been a while since I've seen that version anyway. That said, it's hard to ignore that the VAs sound very similar to some of their previous roles; Lelouch can lapse into Ichigo at times, and CC sounds virtually identical to Saber (Fate/Stay Night).

danreyes1

04-25-2008, 09:24 PM

Those first two minutes are going to scare a lot of people off with the silly nationalism.

The first two minutes were a big red flag to me. The rest of the episode did a good job of making me not want to finish it. I found it incredibly offensive, and will not be catching the rest of the series. Pity too, because that was the only flaw I could distinguish, and I miss watching anime.

airfighter

04-25-2008, 09:35 PM

Fairly decent dub. Just watched it to check out the final result, but I'm happy with the original version so I may not follow the broadcast all the way through.

Although it is of course the right of those who do...I can't really find anything *truly* offensive, unless real world comparisons are hammered in regardless of the obvious and not so obvious differences, beginning with the fact that this is a fictional world with a rather different history.

Not to mention that things that happen later may place such a portrayal in a different light, but I guess that's the benefit of hindsight.

Then again, I didn't find something far more controversial, like V for Vendetta, offensive, but probably some people still do too...

FightingDreamer

04-25-2008, 09:42 PM

I love CC's debut. Such beautiful animation.

You know, I was kind of surprised that the animation ended up looking so good (well, I'd appreciate the mech combat more if Fix didn't keep freezing), given that Sunrise generally isn't renowned for their animation the way companies like BONES, Madhouse or I.G. are (well, except for Cowboy Bebop, which still looks great after a frackin' decade), and I've heard many a complaint regarding the use of stock footage in various Gundam series.

bigdeath

04-25-2008, 09:45 PM

The first two minutes were a big red flag to me. The rest of the episode did a good job of making me not want to finish it. I found it incredibly offensive, and will not be catching the rest of the series. Pity too, because that was the only flaw I could distinguish, and I miss watching anime.

WOW, I suppose this will be as bad as Eureka seven, where a few people watched the first few eppies and then dropped it. :sweat:

Nippon Banzai anyone. :p

Lightning Tiger

04-25-2008, 09:48 PM

The first two minutes were a big red flag to me. The rest of the episode did a good job of making me not want to finish it. I found it incredibly offensive, and will not be catching the rest of the series. Pity too, because that was the only flaw I could distinguish, and I miss watching anime.

can somebody explain to me what people find so offensive about this series?

bigdeath

04-25-2008, 09:52 PM

can somebody explain to me what people find so offensive about this series?

Oh, you know. America being the evil empire and Japan the helpless little innnocence that needs to be saved. Thats usually the line I hear when someone says they find Code Geass offensive.

johnny139

04-25-2008, 09:55 PM

Well, Japan has a history of ignoring their faults. For example, in many places, a picture is painted of, during WWII, Japan being a harmless little kitten who defended Korea, gave structure to China, and were forced into the war by the big bad Americans. So when they make a series with a similar theme...

FinnMacCool

04-25-2008, 10:01 PM

I thought the evil empire in this was supposed to be an alternate history version of the British Empire?

airfighter

04-25-2008, 10:09 PM

Well, Japan has a history of ignoring their faults.

It's not like fiction has to answer for real world faults...or as if alternate history isn't allowed.

Using this logic, I don't want to think about how many U.S. novels, cartoons or fictional tales should be considered offensive because they "ignore U.S. faults"...whether they are fantasy, sci-fi or alternate history.

You could even bash good old "G.I. Joe" or "Independence Day" if you stretch things far enough. But that exercise leads nowhere, I believe.

There is also no "America" in Code Geass, unless "America" suddenly became British again, conquered a third of the world and adopted an absolute monarchy while we weren't looking, without going into other details.

Captain Highwind

04-25-2008, 10:18 PM

Well, as said. It's either better to get it on DVD or watch the broadcast version of the anime on CN's A.S.

Or AS.com can put in a few different ads to break them up. ><

Neo Ultra Mike

04-25-2008, 10:37 PM

Okay Besides some racism tones mentioned in other threads here on Toonzone, I really had no idea what Code Geass would be about. Besides the fact that it was Adult Swim's newest anime. So I went this even more unpreapred then I did for Death Note. Knowing of Japan's history though, I shouldn't be surprised that we yet again get another total totalliarian series in which some variation of the American Government (in this case Britanna. It's I guess a British and America mix but Britianna seems centeralized in the US and the Japanese do lap more hate on us Americans then they do on the British) enslaves Japan and is potrayed as evil and general racist facists imposing a harsh rule for the Japanese... uh Agent 11s. Nor was I surprised the main lead character Lelouche was voiced by Jonny Yong Bosch. Afterall Bosch has done the the lead role for more Adult Swim Action anime stars then anyone else at this point so here he gets to potray a more sophsticated Ichigo voice as Lelouche. And yet the robots and getting caught right in the middle comes straight from a Eureka Seven Renton situation, only this time he's the hostage falling in a truck housing toxic gas. Well more like some sort of... weird magical girl (which is now Outlaw Star stealing) which gives the boy incredible powers at the end (Bleach) of being able to tell people to shoot themselves. Changing the somewhat bored chess playing pretty boy teenager forever more. Wonder what other things he'll encounter along this journey that if this episode has anything to say about the series promises to be fairly interesting though fairly confusing. I can get the themes of totallirian control and wipint out everyone just find but the weird capture girls and magic transfer powers and the idea of having to deal with like over a dozen+ characters being introduced at once is a bit much. It holds the attention though so it's defintley not all bad even if it is somewhat altougher a confusing opening.

Rolling Cloud

04-25-2008, 10:42 PM

Hmm, I can't really take this show seriously. But, I really don't care. It's got mechs and the opening's done by Flow, so I really can't argue. Pretty eyecatchers too.

.......Poor Rivals. =[

Gah, that GTA IV ad is annoying.

Totally. Imo, it looks like crap compared to #3. :/

NelStone

04-25-2008, 10:46 PM

Pretty good for a first episode. I'll need to see more to see what the hype is all about.

FightingDreamer

04-25-2008, 10:49 PM

Hmm, I can't really take this show seriously. But, I really don't care.

I know! Isn't it great? I was expecting some dark, angsty show given what I had heard about it... imagine my surprise when it turns out to be more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

airfighter

04-25-2008, 10:56 PM

The show does have its dark and angsty parts, to say the least, but there's still a lot more fun and comedy than in, say, Death Note. Certainly.

garfield15

04-25-2008, 11:00 PM

Does anyone else keep thinking that Rivalz is going to randomly yell out "Guilmon digivolve...oh wait wrong show"

(okay that was my last one. But seriously, I didn't think I would ever hear Takato's voice again in an anime.)

Once that "Colors" by FLOW opening gets in your head, you will be singing it randomly throughout your day. I just wish I could say the same for the next opening song.

Humble

04-25-2008, 11:26 PM

Wonderful. Another Ubermensch has gained powers that horribly violate the human psyche.

With this contrived coincidence, this king among men will save the people because they are clearly too stupid to fight for themselves.

The sociological and psychological implications of this show make it a wall banger for me. I"ll watch it, but it's going to have to improve before I start enjoying it.

asphaltviking64

04-25-2008, 11:53 PM

I'm just sad that there are no subtitles for the opening theme, would have been so fun to sing along with the awesomeness of FLOW.

Funkatron

04-26-2008, 12:21 AM

Hmm, I can't really take this show seriously. But, I really don't care. It's got mechs and the opening's done by Flow, so I really can't argue. Pretty eyecatchers too.

.......Poor Rivals. =[

Totally. Imo, it looks like crap compared to #3. :/

You're not supposed to take this show seriously, truthfully. It's purposefully over the top, but thats why I like it so much.

Sketch

04-26-2008, 12:37 AM

Rival "doh!"

Kallen "double doh!"

When anime magazines spell them differently it's hard to figure out what the original names were suppose to be but I always thought Karen sounded better and isn't there suppose to be an "s" in Rivals' name?

Speaking of Rivals... that voice... shouldn't be coming from a human teenager.

Shirley has a lisp? :sad:

This dub is making me all kinds of concernicous. Something about it feels "off" with the exception of Liam as Llyod (which is awesome though he is laying it on a little bit thick).

This certainly is an interesting first episode. A lot happens. When I first watched it I missed a few things I guess.

I do hope the nationalism doesn't turn people off because it's a really great show.

This show has to prove to the causal audience that it isn't Eureka seveN and the opening song by FLOW sure doesn't help. :sweat:

Anyway, let the rebellion commence!

River26

04-26-2008, 02:23 AM

Man, I can't get the VA JYB out of my head. From hearing him voice Gram in the past, to Ichigo and now Lelouch/Zero. He just does an impecible and awesome job.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 02:30 AM

I can get the themes of totallirian control and wipint out everyone just find but the weird capture girls and magic transfer powers and the idea of having to deal with like over a dozen+ characters being introduced at once is a bit much. It holds the attention though so it's defintley not all bad even if it is somewhat altougher a confusing opening.

Err, have people watched animes before? Now, I'll never say Code Geass is an orignial anime, I mean everthing from the fanserivce to the character types are cliche but god, thats why I watch anime in the first place. I can't get enough of this stuff. And there are plenty of action packed momments in the show. Just wait to the next episode. If you don't love the show by then then you most likely never will. I got hook by just the second episode.

As for character overload, don't worry. The characters do get developed in this anime. Even the side characters.

The sociological and psychological implications of this show make it a wall banger for me.

Claiming this show has sociological and psychological implications is like claiming GI Joe has sociological and psychological implications on American's views on terrorism. :shrug:

Hmm, I can't really take this show seriously.

Please, for the love of god, DON'T , I repeat, DON'T take this show seriously. That would be like taking an action movie seriously. :sweat:

Code Geass is just like anime crack. Its bad for you but you can't help but take another sniff and before you know it your addicted and you keeping coming back for more. :anime:

Once that "Colors" by FLOW opening gets in your head, you will be singing it randomly throughout your day. I just wish I could say the same for the next opening song.

Funny. I hear that when they debut the dub, everyone was singing along to the opening song since everyone there knew the words by heart. :D

AND HOW DARE YOU! I love the second opening the most. Sorry new second season openning but while you are great my one true love is still the second openning. I listen to it all the time dispite all the people who hate it. Don't be a hater. ;)

This show has to prove to the causal audience that it isn't Eureka seveN

Wheres the Eureka Seven hate come from? Last time I checked, its a popular show. And if you didn't like Eureka Seven then I doubt you'll like Code Bankai: Ichigo of the Rebellion....err...I mean Code Geass because its even more of a typical mecha fan-service anime then that show. Like I said, it sure isn't orignal. It just very well done.

Katsumara

04-26-2008, 02:53 AM

I hardly ever agree with you bigdeath, but I do about the 2nd opening. I love Jinn's voice D:

Also wow. Three pages from just the fix viewing? Man. I can't wait until the version on my bigger TV is aired.

I also love FLOW. Their opener, "Days" for E7 was pretty fun, and this one is no different.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 02:57 AM

JINN's an angel :anime:

And people often disagree with me becasue I'm often crazy. Lelouch with holland's voice, what was I thinking. :sweat:

And heres proof America is the evil empire ;) :

http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/4/4/13/f_snapshot200m_3858bbc.jpg

Christopher Soul

04-26-2008, 03:25 AM

Okay okay!
I'm sick of people saying that "Britannia is America!", or "Britannians are British so they must have a accent! RIGHT!?"

I wiki'd it for you all.

'Where Your History Class Lied! Code Geass Seperation from our world!"

1770s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1770) a.t.b. - The American Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution) (known as Washington's Rebellion) takes place. The Duke of Britannia at the time bribes Benjamin Franklin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin) with promises of titles and territories in the colonies, who was charged with appealing to Louis XVI of France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XVI_of_France)'s assistance in the colonies' war for independence. Thereafter, Benjamin Franklin seems to have become an earl. As a result, the Continental Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Army) suffers a decisive defeat during the Siege of Yorktown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown), and George Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington) dies.
End of the 18th Century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18th_Century) a.t.b. - The Western world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world) enters the Age of Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Revolution), with numerous people's revolutions taking place – save for Britannia, which under Henry X continue to hold absolute monarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_monarchy). After the French revolutions Napoleon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_I_of_France) emerges. He wins the Battle of Trafalgar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar) and occupies London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London). In 1807 a.t.b. , Queen Elizabeth III retreats to Edinburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh), where a popular revolutionary militia arrests her and forces her to abdicate and end the monarchy, an event known as The Shame of Edinburgh. However, The Duke of Britannia (in America) Ricardo Von Britannia and his friend and subordinate, Knight of One Sir Richard Hector, brings Elizabeth III and her followers to the New World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World) and establish a capital on the east coast of North America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America).

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 03:50 AM

God, I hope that capital is NYC. Of course it is, its always NYC. :anime:

Christopher Soul

04-26-2008, 04:08 AM

God, I hope that capital is NYC. Of course it is, its always NYC. :anime:
Huh? Where'd you get that?
I figured it'd still be D.C. (But with a different name accordingly)

Rob_TF

04-26-2008, 04:36 AM

Rival "doh!"

Kallen "double doh!"

When anime magazines spell them differently it's hard to figure out what the original names were suppose to be but I always thought Karen sounded better and isn't there suppose to be an "s" in Rivals' name?

Kallen is a Germanic name, very fitting with her surname of "Stadtfeld".

Rivalz is a French name, the "z" is not pronounced.

They're both surnames in reality, but so are Lelouch and Nunnally.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 04:37 AM

D.C. was made after the revolution so if the revolution failed then why would D.C. ever have been made?

River26

04-26-2008, 04:45 AM

As for the DVD cover. I can't wait to see what design Bandai has in store for it :D. Seeing as they like to suprise us with these U.S designs.

garfield15

04-26-2008, 06:54 AM

Please, for the love of god, DON'T , I repeat, DON'T take this show seriously. That would be like taking an action movie seriously. :sweat:

Yeah you really just have to see the second episode for you to realize the fact that you cannot take this show seriously.

Geass is just like anime crack. Its bad for you but you can't help but take another sniff and before you know it your addicted and you keeping coming back for more. :anime:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

. I hear that when they debut the dub, everyone was singing along to the opening song since everyone there knew the words by heart. :D

AND HOW DARE YOU! I love the second opening the most. Sorry new second season openning but while you are great my one true love is still the second openning. I listen to it all the time dispite all the people who hate it. Don't be a hater. ;)

Yeah I know. That time at Comic Con was funny. I couldn't believe so many people knew the words (horray for fansubbing)whoa who said that...

And I'm sorry. It's not that I don't like the band that plays the next opening song, but Blood Plus opening 4 was really screechy to me and the same carried over to this song. (begins waiting for stoning to commence)

GWOtaku

04-26-2008, 08:07 AM

Yeah you really just have to see the second episode for you to realize the fact that you cannot take this show seriously.

I disagree with that.

In any case, the dub seems really good with just a few quirks. At first Karen and Shirley sounded very off with their first lines, and then they weren't later in the episode. Suzaku and Lloyd win for having the most appropriate voices. For LeLouch, I find it very good for what it is. When he goes dark or self-confident he sounds softspoken and/or menacing, with lines like "Well look at this, a nobleman" at the beginning or "Well, then!" at the end. It'll be fine if that sort of acting is par for the course.

garfield15

04-26-2008, 08:11 AM

FightingDreamer

04-26-2008, 10:02 AM

Anyone else think it'd be incredibly amusing to make an AMV with footage of antagonists such as Clovis, Jeremiah, and Lloyd with "The Imperial March" (Darth Vader's theme music)?

Alucard

04-26-2008, 11:09 AM

Lightning Tiger

04-26-2008, 11:17 AM

This show isnt racist to anything and it shouldnt be offensive, i mean whats wrong with people. Geez, its just your basic "evil empire empire taking over world, conquers some land, and there are patriotic rebbels", i mean come on, they has to pick some country to be the empire, its not some kind of covert racist message or anything.

Alucard

04-26-2008, 11:21 AM

This show isnt racist to anything

Thats kinda my point. There's been alot of talk about how nationalistic this series is and while that may be true, the lines have been too skewered to be considered racist.

Though still, atleast in Jin Roh it was the Japanese government instead of using another name.

HG Revolution

04-26-2008, 11:29 AM

Wheres the Eureka Seven hate come from? Last time I checked, its a popular show. And if you didn't like Eureka Seven then I doubt you'll like Code Bankai: Ichigo of the Rebellion....err...I mean Code Geass because its even more of a typical mecha fan-service anime then that show. Like I said, it sure isn't orignal. It just very well done.

Eureka 7 wasn't that popular. The fans of it seem to really love it, but the number of fans was smaller than that of, say, Fullmetal Alchemist. I actually liked this first episode and didn't like Eureka 7. They might be similar, but there's more action and the characters are more interesting as far as the premieres go.

River26

04-26-2008, 11:30 AM

Personally for me. I think this' a great series. Because it reflects on our same war we're having with nation; Iraq & Iran as well. But with a more technological/psychological and fantasy type of war.

Alucard

04-26-2008, 11:47 AM

from what I've seen of Code Geass (which I admit isn't that much) It seems to be a well made show. It targets all those things anime fans like, kinetic fight scenes, CLAMP artwork, fanservice, mecha and some room for BL pairings.

And I find it enjoyable enough. The fight scenes are great and its well animated But still I don't class it as the best Mecha series ever as some have. Its just one of the better mecha series of the last couple of years. When I compare it to other millitary mecha titles like Zeta Gundam, I consider Zeta the far better show.

XOMiss_Samantha

04-26-2008, 11:55 AM

Please, for the love of god, DON'T , I repeat, DON'T take this show seriously. That would be like taking an action movie seriously. :sweat:
Code Geass is just like anime crack. Its bad for you but you can't help but take another sniff and before you know it your addicted and you keeping coming back for more. :anime:

Uh, why?

Excel Saga is anime crack.There's almost no feasible plot minus a few minutes at the end. Geass isn't like that. It's far from anything that can be called 'anime crack'. I can't see how people being shot down and killed for the sake of revolution isn't mean to take somewhat seriously. I mean, obviously the terrorism aspects aren't real but I don't think this is a series to be taken lightly to a point where it's all just 'fun and games'.
The Nobel's in Geass may be over the top at times, but honestly I can't see anyone in their position, real life or anime, not having that big of a selfish and egotistical out look on life.
Take away the fantasy aspects, and the rebel factions/ over powering mother countries are closer to real actual events than it is to 'cracktastic enjoyment'

By all means, it's better to take this show seriously than to dismiss it as nothing but fanservce.

HellCat

04-26-2008, 12:03 PM

Alucard

04-26-2008, 12:11 PM

Gurren Laggan is deep man. So is New Getter Robo.

Super giant robot shows make a statement about a very topical subject, how to be a real man!

River26

04-26-2008, 12:24 PM

My only wish is that Bandai (not B.V USA) got Super Robot Taisen, another great Super Robot series that fans can get into. And I might add that if Bandai got Super Robot Taisen OG: Divine Wars, the possibility of the PS2 version of SRT OG being licensed would be really high.

GWOtaku

04-26-2008, 12:25 PM

I think a middle ground is needed. We have people saying the show isn't to be taken seriously (I'd note that's coming from the larger Geass fanboys) and on the other side the issue of taking too seriously. I think people should be free to make up their own minds but I will say I disagree with just saying don't take the show seriously. Despite some misgivings I have, there are some serious themes that Geass handles very well and it's almost an insult to tell people to ignore that. Shows like Gurren Laggan qualify as so called 'anime crack', not Code Geass.

100% agreed on that.

My only wish is that Bandai (not B.V USA) got Super Robot Taisen, another great Super Robot series that fans can get into. And I might add that if Bandai got Super Robot Taisen OG: Divine Wars, the possibility of the PS2 version of SRT OG being licensed would be really high.

Sadly, both SRW OG shows are licensed by BVUSA.

Sprocket

04-26-2008, 12:57 PM

Vallen Valiant

04-26-2008, 01:13 PM

Who else expected Lelouche to scream when he realized he just forced a bunch of people to kill themselves. I mean, normally in anime, when the main character inadvertently kills a bunch of people without realizing it, they will scream or at least wonder what they have just done. Even Light contemplated what he was doing for the first episode of DN.

But not, Lelouche. Oh no...he's just gotta be a badass

(If you don't eat pizza hut, you're supporting the empire)
Lulu was raised in the Britannia way of life, which is a dog-eat-dog world, and where anyone higher rank than you have the right to order you to kill yourself. If you refuse to do so, then it is classified as treason and you can be legally executed for disobeying orders. This has little to do with his Geass power, but it does explain why Lulu is more desensitized with death than most stereotypical anime lead.

Lulu is not an ordinary schoolboy.

River26

04-26-2008, 01:46 PM

I had never seen Code Geass before, and I laughed through the whole thing. This show is just so completely ridiculous, in concept and execution, that it's impossible for me to take it seriously.

Good fun, though.

Dude, no offense. But if you with me, we'd watch Code Geass and you were to laugh throughout the anime. You'd seriously get me mad. Because I'm trying to watch these animes without these interruptions lol.

Wolfie~Giri

04-26-2008, 02:15 PM

Darn you first episode. I completely forgot about that guy traveling with Karen. Man, I hated that part. >_>

Anyway, I enjoyed it overall; the voice acting was pretty solid from my point of view... Suzaku and CC were great, Clovis was full of it (That's a good thing) and Lulu turned out pretty good in the end. (Hearing a little bit of Ichigo isn't necessarily a bad thing, now is it?)

On a side note, I'm hooked on the Geass soundtrack again. Mecha music always has to be so darned catchy.

Naruto D.Luffy

04-26-2008, 02:29 PM

First episode was good from mm point of view. Love to see were this series is headed.

Also, that opening is great.

Sprocket

04-26-2008, 03:50 PM

Dude, no offense. But if you with me, we'd watch Code Geass and you were to laugh throughout the anime. You'd seriously get me mad. Because I'm trying to watch these animes without these interruptions lol.
I don't laugh at things like that unless I'm alone, so no worries there.

If it were a comedy, though? I might have to laugh a few times.

Man, so classic. Genocide has never been this much fun.

Daikun

04-26-2008, 03:53 PM

Dubbing: Didn't care for it too much. It seemed pretty "meh" to me.

Plot: The pacing was way too quick. They just thrust us in with the generic "have an unknown narrator tell us what the hell's going on" cliché and introduce us to everything in under 2 minutes with no chance of building character development.

The only good thing about this was the ending. I haven't seen a second of this series beforehand, so I wasn't expecting a cool power like that. I thought it was just going to be about robots after all I've heard about it being just another NGE/Eureka 7 clone, but I guess it's taking a backseat for this series. I was actually quite surprised.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 04:11 PM

Shows like Gurren Laggan qualify as so called 'anime crack', not Code Geass.

Add in the word terrorism and all of a sudden this show is taken seriously. This show has all the elements of anime crack: kinetic fight scenes, CLAMP artwork, fanservice, mecha and some room for BL pairings, need I say more? Lets not forget MAO. Yes, Mao is the perfect reason not to take this show seriously.

Unlike gundam, this show doesn't even try to make any commentary on war, or terrorism in this case, at all. Its just drama, like a good space opera. Its only ment to hook you in the end. You won't find any deepeer message like "war is bad" and peace is good" or blue gender's infamous anti-technology ending.

Prehaps I'm wrong and we should psychoanalysis this show and the implication of the power of geass but thats like psychoanalysising bleach and the implications of the power of bankai.

Besides, the real focus of the show has nothing to do with war, racism, or terriorism. It is about the contrast between Lelouch and Suzaku. Between the ends justifying the means vs the means justifying the end.

You know, Prehaps we can do some psychoanalysis of Code Geass as we watch the dub. What shall we come up with? Should be fun.

Man, so classic. Genocide has never been this much fun.

Actaully, its as much fun as the countless attempts in gundam to slam an asteroid into the earth. OMG, gundam supports wiping out all life on earth! Oh no!

And my good sirs, I beg to differ. Code Geass is far above gundam zeta. Only Code Geass provides the level of fanservice I require. :p

You should take Code geass as seriously as a Gundam show. Then again, I don't take gundams seriously either and I know plenty of others do. :sweat:

Gurren Laggan is deep man. So is New Getter Robo.

Super giant robot shows make a statement about a very topical subject, how to be a real man!

Yes, there are two ways to win a battle, through overwheliming manly power or the infamous EMO power.

HellCat

04-26-2008, 04:49 PM

bigdeath, I'm not going to argue this with you here. We've done it so many times that I'm sure people are sick of it. Also this is a first episode talkback so I don't want to get into themes and events that occur later on lest I spoil others. I'll just conclude with the simple statment that I disagree with you making Geass out to be so paper thin and insisting people should only watch it for fun and fanservice.

Master Moltar

04-26-2008, 04:49 PM

This show has to prove to the causal audience that it isn't Eureka seveN and the opening song by FLOW sure doesn't help. :sweat:

So I'm not the only one that got some E7 vibes from the opening alone. I know it's from the same artist, but even visually they have some things in common.

I'm still eager to see where things go from here though.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 04:59 PM

Well, I'm just saying that Code Geass is made for the same reason Bleach or Naruto exist and thats entertainment. It has a much better story and better character development but thats an opinion.

Alucard

04-26-2008, 05:01 PM

And my good sirs, I beg to differ. Code Geass is far above gundam zeta. Only Code Geass provides the level of fanservice I require. :p

You should take Code geass as seriously as a Gundam show. Then again, I don't take gundams seriously either and I know plenty of others do. :sweat:

Zeta gundam makes up for lack of fanservice with loads of whiny teenagers getting slapped over and over again. When I have that I don't need fanservice.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 05:04 PM

Ah, why I don't like zeta as much, too many whiny teenagers. Thank you for pointing that out.

Alucard

04-26-2008, 05:09 PM

Well, I'm just saying that Code Geass is made for the same reason Bleach or Naruto exist and thats entertainment. It has a much better story and better character development but thats an opinion.

Even if it isn't the creators intention for Code Geass to be taken as a comment on terrorism, its obvious that the fans will take it that way.

The same goes for Gundam. I don't think Tomino meant for Gundam to be commentary about war, it just provided a good backdrop and a plausible reason for Mecha.

Face it bigdeath, you wouldn't have your Code Geass, your Evangelion, if it wasn't for Gundam!

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 05:26 PM

Face it bigdeath, you wouldn't have your Code Geass, your Evangelion, if it wasn't for Gundam!

Err, take EVA out of the equation. I rate many Gundams such as Stardust (yes, stardust), 08 ms team, zeta, THE ORIGINAL CLASSIC, etc above EVA. ;)

Alucard

04-26-2008, 05:31 PM

I thought I remembered you saying you liked Eva:sweat:

I guess I'm going senile about 8 decades early...

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 05:33 PM

I thought I remembered you saying you liked Eva:sweat:

I guess I'm going senile about 8 decades early...

Oh, I like EVA but I never said it was better than gundam. No way. :shrug:

GWOtaku

04-26-2008, 06:24 PM

Unlike gundam, this show doesn't even try to make any commentary on war, or terrorism in this case, at all. Its just drama, like a good space opera.

Many good space operas also have things to say, to one degree or another. You seem to treat depth and entertainment value as mutually exclusive, but in my experience that's very far from the truth. Geass offers plenty of entertainment, but it's not doing the show favors to say it can only be viewed on a superficial level.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 06:43 PM

There's nothing wrong with looking deeper into an anime but it often goes overboard. The basic intent of this show is to contrast Lelouch and Suzaku. Between the ends justifying the means vs the means justifying the end. Its not comenting on War, Racism, or Terrorism but using them as a means to contrast between Lelouch and Suzaku reactions to and how they deal with the same situation. Who's basic view point is correct? The show does a good job of making the answer gray since both are sinners in their own way.

Now, as we watch the dub we can have a good discussion on which character is right and when but debating whether its racist often leads to people posting the "Anime is obviously racism with America always being the villains hurting the poor helpless Japanese". That most certainly is taking the show far to seriously.

FightingDreamer

04-26-2008, 06:46 PM

I think I'll go ahead and revise my "can't take it seriously' statement in the interest of clarification: Coming into the show and having read up on it, I was expecting a constantly dour, grim series, so the fact that the first episode ended up being a lot of fun came as a surprise. I'm sure that, when the show shifts into 'dramatic and grim' mode (much as it does with the Shinjuku Ghetto massacre and the first Geass use), I can take it plenty seriously.

HellCat

04-26-2008, 06:52 PM

Do we really have to drop hints of anything? Can't we just let people enjoy the show in their own time, without spoilers or telling them how to read the show?

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 06:57 PM

Do we really have to drop hints of anything? Can't we just let people enjoy the show in their own time, without spoilers or telling them how to read the show?

Short answer, no. I mean people leave hits of great epsiodes/chapters in every talkback on this forum and as long as it doesn't spoil anything its ok.

Plenty of people say Eurka 7 has a great ending and it doesn't seem to spoil anything for people. Or commenting on how good the next bleach or naruto arc is, etc.

macattack

04-26-2008, 06:58 PM

*sigh* I'm sick and tired of my country being the evil bad guy . . . even considering the alternate history of it all and we're just taken over by dozens of manical descendents of the British royals.

YES OUR LEADERS SUCK GET OVER IT!

*ahem*

Sunrise's animation department seems to have an influx of cash and animators lately. After the SEED Destiny disaster all of their shows suddenly began looking a lot better. Code Geass is a good example of what the "new Sunrise" is like, alongside Towards The Terra and Gundam 00, where Sunrise seems to want to elevate themselves into Bones/Madhouse/Gonzo territory instead of being in an awkward middle ground between the higher level studios and the Toei/Pierrot/Gallop level.

GWOtaku

04-26-2008, 07:00 PM

Hey Big, check a PM I sent.

Sunrise's animation department seems to have an influx of cash and animators lately. After the SEED Destiny disaster all of their shows suddenly began looking a lot better. Code Geass is a good example of what the "new Sunrise" is like, alongside Towards The Terra and Gundam 00, where Sunrise seems to want to elevate themselves into Bones/Madhouse/Gonzo territory instead of being in an awkward middle ground between the higher level studios and the Toei/Pierrot/Gallop level.

Man, do I ever agree with that. Geass definitely is one of the better looking animes to come along in awhile.

HellCat

04-26-2008, 07:01 PM

Short answer, no. I mean people leave hits of great epsiodes/chapters in every talkback on this forum and as long as it doesn't spoil anything its ok.

Plenty of people say Eurka 7 has a great ending and it doesn't seem to spoil anything for people. Or commenting on how good the next bleach or naruto arc is, etc.

Just because people do it doesn't make it right. If 00 gets a TV airing, I'm not going to be in talkbacks going "Oh, you like so and so? Well wait until episode such and such :evil:"

It's rude. If people have seen these shows via the Japanese airings, they know the impact of these plot twists and events. What gives you the right to then spoil it for others just because you already know? It's like sitting in judgement of them.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 07:06 PM

Just because people do it doesn't make it right. If 00 gets a TV airing, I'm not going to be in talkbacks going "Oh, you like so and so? Well wait until episode such and such :evil:"

It's rude. If people have seen these shows via the Japanese airings, they know the impact of these plot twists and events. What gives you the right to then spoil it for others just because you already know? It's like sitting in judgement of them.

Well, that your opinion and its valid but others don't seem to mind so as much or wouldn't we have a rule banning commenting on the quality of future episodes? Its not rude, if the next few episodes are slower paced or action packed I thinks is fair to say so.

Sunrise's animation department seems to have an influx of cash and animators lately. After the SEED Destiny disaster all of their shows suddenly began looking a lot better. Code Geass is a good example of what the "new Sunrise" is like, alongside Towards The Terra and Gundam 00, where Sunrise seems to want to elevate themselves into Bones/Madhouse/Gonzo territory instead of being in an awkward middle ground between the higher level studios and the Toei/Pierrot/Gallop level.

hey, do you think that's why they hired Clap to draw the Character Designs; was sunrise not confident in its own Design abilities?

GWOtaku

04-26-2008, 07:10 PM

Also, please keep major spoilers out of this thread. There will be many people watching for the first time(like me), so please be considerate.

This. Discussion's good, but we need to be careful and we should also give new viewers time to form their own conclusions. Some of the recent talk they can't participate in because the show is new to them, so we should stick close to the content of the specific episodes.

hey, do you think that's why they hired clap to draw the Character Designs; was sunrise not confident in its own Design abilities?

Eh, I don't know about that...I think what is true is that the CLAMP style does help separate Geass from the rest, as while the designs are stylized they can't be taken as generic anime drawings either. No one will ever compare this with another show and think two separate characters are incredibly similar.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 07:13 PM

This. Discussion's good, but we need to be careful and we should also give new viewers time to form their own conclusions. Some of the recent talk they can't participate in because the show is new to them, so we should stick close to the content of the specific episodes.

Well, if that exculded the quality of future episodes then so be it.

Mugen

04-26-2008, 07:14 PM

Alright, this is getting off-topic now. As for hinting towards future events, please refrain from doing that. I know its not spoiling per say, but it is annoying for people who haven't seen the Japanese version. It kinda ruins the fun for those who are watching for the first time.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 09:47 PM

The only good thing about this was the ending. I haven't seen a second of this series beforehand, so I wasn't expecting a cool power like that. I thought it was just going to be about robots after all I've heard about it being just another NGE/Eureka 7 clone, but I guess it's taking a backseat for this series. I was actually quite surprised.

Err, yeah. This shows more character focused and people accuse it of not being much of a mecha show at all. But then I say there's more mecha action then in Eva or even Eureka 7 so...

Lightning Tiger

04-26-2008, 09:49 PM

seriously, ive been watching it again and again, Clovis sounds too much like Emergy, next thing you know hel summon the Super Pinch Crusher.

FightingDreamer

04-26-2008, 09:50 PM

While we're here, here's a link to an incredibly amusing Geass AMV: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-zpJuCTYdlc

Granted, I don't know what half the stuff going on is about, but it does prove that you can mix some of the most unlikely things imaginable in the world of AMVs.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 09:55 PM

seriously, ive been watching it again and again, Clovis sounds too much like Emergy, next thing you know hel summon the Super Pinch Crusher.

Thats just wrong...LOL.

And FightingDreamer:

Thats AMV is even more messed up. Who thinks of Darkwing Duck when they see ZERO o.O

XOMiss_Samantha

04-26-2008, 10:02 PM

While we're here, here's a link to an incredibly amusing Geass AMV: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-zpJuCTYdlc

That song is so...fitting for Lulu.
And extremely catchy at that.

need I say more? Lets not forget MAO. Yes, Mao is the perfect reason not to take this show seriously. The only reason Mao is over the top and 'hard to take seriously', if you want to say that, is because given the circumstances he's clinically insane. How else is he supposed to act with a Geass like that? I don't think it's really a good enough reason to not take the show seriously just because of his condition. I could understand more if he was insane for the sake of being insane.

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 10:11 PM

XOMiss_Samantha

04-26-2008, 10:14 PM

Err, perhaps I went overboard on the "don't take the show seriously" part...I've overdone it before. :sweat: I meant don't take it too seriously. Code Geass has got a great story but I won't start analysing every line and every scene like its a work of Shakespeare.

hah that makes much more sense. It's mean to be enjoyable, but there are still underlying messages and serious moments meant to be examined

Ishtar

04-26-2008, 10:18 PM

bigdeath

04-26-2008, 10:20 PM

but there are still underlying messages and serious moments meant to be examinated.

Exactly, my point being that the show does not comment on Racism...etc. Such things only provide intense situations in which to contrast how characters react to them like how Gundam Seed was in part a contrast of Kira and Athrun. However, I feel Code Geass does a better job of examining such a study in character contrast.

Also, we all know the greatest Code Geass AMV used Rammstein's "Feuer Frei! but I can't show it because its quite possibly greatest spoiler I've ever seen in any AMV. :sweat: BANG BANG.

Vyse

04-27-2008, 12:05 AM

Here's my take on the first ep (saw it last night on ASV). I liked it. I enjoyed the dub and JYB makes a good Lelouch, even though it sounds more like Adam from Power Rangers going badass and channeling Kira. And, as for the whole "Britannia is America" issue, I really don't care. :p But, man the music is back in my head again; I loved "COLORS" and its actual MV and Ali Project is catchy beyond hell, even in their song's super-condensed 30-second form.

As for the broadcasting/technical aspects of the show, I was shocked that it was in widescreen, since the fansubs (where I first caught it last year) were presented in the 4:3 ratio. For the rest of the series, I was going to just watch it online/record it on the non-HD DVR, but I'll watch tonight to see if the show is in real HD or in stretch-o-vision.

danreyes1

04-27-2008, 12:23 AM

Oh, you know. America being the evil empire and Japan the helpless little innnocence that needs to be saved. Thats usually the line I hear when someone says they find Code Geass offensive.

I thought the evil empire in this was supposed to be an alternate history version of the British Empire?

Doing my research, the alternate history has Britannia resisting the Roman Empire waaaayyy back when, and therefor becoming the dominant imperial force throughout history, and relocating the government to the American continent after defeating the rebellion there and somehow retaining absolute monarchy for two millennia.

Yeah, I find the totalitarian British Empire part rather annoying. And this coming from someone who enjoyed V for Vendetta. In any case, it's a good show. It's got giant robots, and interesting retro-like style, and is pleasantly bloody. Go ahead and watch it, and you'll probably enjoy it. I'm just not going to.

Lightning Tiger

04-27-2008, 12:27 AM

dude, even AS is buying into it.

"because the british are bastards, and theyl kill you with giant robots"

i bet their prediction will go wrong and Geass makes then suck even more at Anime.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 12:30 AM

dude, even AS is buying into it.

"because the british are bastards, and theyl kill you with giant robots"

i bet their prediction will go wrong and Geass makes then suck even more at Anime.

Wait, I don't understand what you are saying?? Did AS say that and where did they say it? And what prediction are you talking about, I don't understand that last sentence. :sweat:

Christopher Soul

04-27-2008, 12:31 AM

Actually..
When I think of Zero I think of tokusatsu.
You know such as a Sentai Warrior or Kamen Rider.

And [as] says Britannia is Britain :p
According to that bump anyway.

Christopher Soul

04-27-2008, 12:33 AM

Wait, I don't understand what you are saying?? Did AS say that and where did they say it? And what prediction are you talking about, I don't understand that last sentence. :sweat:
The Code Geass Bump (http://www.bumpworthy.com/bump_display.php?bid=864)

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 12:44 AM

The Code Geass Bump (http://www.bumpworthy.com/bump_display.php?bid=864)

OMG, thats the funnest bump ever. :anime:

The British are coming, the British are coming! :p

Speedy Boris

04-27-2008, 12:48 AM

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 12:58 AM

Christopher Soul

04-27-2008, 01:01 AM

^ Cute bump. I like how AS admits they suck at anime and that Geass may be -the- show to bring some more viewers in.

BTW, sorta on-topic: Code Geass's ep. 1 online viewings have reached over 60,000 in just two days.

I really hope it does bring in viewers
Yet no REAL promotion.

It's up us!
The people.
To spreead the word of Geass.

Spam people's Social Networking Pages (Facebook, MySpace, LiveJournal, ETC!)
Send out mass emails!
We must spread word of the Rebellion! :p

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 01:28 AM

For all those opressed, striped of your pride, REJOICE! For the rebellion has finnaly come. :anime:

Kitschensyngk

04-27-2008, 01:29 AM

Everyone, meet Code Geass, the newest member of [adult swim]'s Club of Forgotten Anime.

Knightmare with a "K", FYI.

Am I the only one getting Eureka Seven vibes? (An opening song written by FLOW. Maybe that's why. -Ed.)

Johnny Yong Bosch voices everyone these days.

"Lulu." How cute. :anime:

Bleurgh. Another bishounen villain.

Hey you Elevens! Speed kills!

And so the mecha come into play.

That's the cutest shipment of poison gas I've ever seen.

Sheesh. He jumps in the back of a semi and now he's a terrorist? Some nationalist loyalty.

Any excuse to kill the proles, huh?

Oh, and you should?
Good thing I've read ahead in the episode guide.

As of now, we are the Judean People's Front Crack Suicide Squad.

Oh, that Gin Ichimaru grin.

Katsumara

04-27-2008, 01:31 AM

Holy crap, widescreen?!

Vyse

04-27-2008, 01:38 AM

Holy crap, widescreen?!
But NOT in high-def. Hopefully, when Venture Bros. Season 3 (the first CN/[as] show that will air in true HD) starts airing on June 1st, I hope the CN/[as] shows that can be shown in HD air in HD.

MattThomasM2B

04-27-2008, 01:40 AM

*whistles* I think this is a new standard of androgynous androgyny

Lightning Tiger

04-27-2008, 01:40 AM

how accurate, everyone sais "someone help", but nobody ever steps up. i hate bystanders.

LordTerminal

04-27-2008, 01:42 AM

"You all know what this badass mother can do." It's official. I know love this anime. And here I'd thought that Eureka 7 would go on to be the only giant mech anime I enjoy.

Katsumara

04-27-2008, 01:44 AM

Well I do know it's better watching this on a 32" Samsung HDTV instead of a 17" computer monitor. D:

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 01:45 AM

"You all know what this badass mother can do." It's official. I know love this anime.

What a fantastic reason to love an anime. You think like me. :anime: (another Kallen fan I presumme)

RedTail

04-27-2008, 01:45 AM

The director needs to be shot. TALKTALKTALK CUT/NO TRANSITION TALKTALKTALK. It feels like I'm watching an introduction segment that quickly details what happened on the last episode except spread out over 22/24 minutes.

Bunai

04-27-2008, 01:47 AM

hnn
Lisp are Mo'e?

TyUnlimited

04-27-2008, 01:50 AM

So this is Code Geass.....so far it's freaking awesome.

LordTerminal

04-27-2008, 01:50 AM

What a fantastic reason to love an anime. You think like me. :anime: (another Kallen fan I presumme)

Give me some time to get used to the cast. But yeah, if she has more lines like that then don't be surprised.

Megaman X

04-27-2008, 01:52 AM

Worst cell phone call ever xD

RedTail

04-27-2008, 01:53 AM

This show has no concept of what a transition or a pause is.

Katsumara

04-27-2008, 01:53 AM

Curse those cellphones.

Bunai

04-27-2008, 01:54 AM

oh no
poisonous gas!!

and its shaped like a girl...
interesting

Ishtar

04-27-2008, 01:56 AM

What the hell happened to the ending credits?

Katsumara

04-27-2008, 01:56 AM

Only real problem and it does have to do with transition. 30 second ending followed by no preview = fail. Other than that, the dub wasn't horrible.

Hyper Shadow X

04-27-2008, 01:58 AM

So, we get a Eureka Seven opening and a Rozen Maiden type ending. Overall I enjoyed this really liked the ending sense.

k-day42

04-27-2008, 01:58 AM

My first time watching this show...

I must say..........it's not half-bad! I think i'll enjoy watching it through its run on the network!;)

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 01:59 AM

What the hell happened to the ending credits?

What are you guys talking about? They had to deal with a limited about of air time. The EDs I don't care about; as long as they keep the OP intake then I'm happy.

Like I predicted, big hit. :D

Bunai

04-27-2008, 02:00 AM

So, we get a Eureka Seven opening and a Rozen Maiden type ending. Overall I enjoyed this really liked the ending sense.
exactly what i was thinking...

Katsumara

04-27-2008, 02:01 AM

Code Geass Ending 1 - Full Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPoHAu1qrk)

For those of you who are interested.

Megaman X

04-27-2008, 02:01 AM

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 02:03 AM

So just thought I ask... is are main character a good guy or bad guy? Or is it like Light where he just wants justice >_> but is evil anyways?

He is not as evil as Light but hes no saint

Christopher Soul

04-27-2008, 02:04 AM

So just thought I ask... is are main character a good guy or bad guy? Or is it like Light where he just wants justice >_> but is evil anyways?

And you no the ending song reminds me of Dot hack roots ending song o_o
He is more or less a anti-hero.
He's a very complicated character.

With the Light-Lulu comparison IGN's article says it's best.
"But even the comparison to Light isn't quite accurate. Though Lelouch often walks on the tight rope between freedom fighter and terrorist, he never falls. He doesn't completely lose his grip on reality and morality."

PickHut

04-27-2008, 02:12 AM

*attempts to read every post in this thread*

I forgot what I just read....

Anyway, well.... it was a first episode. A typical first episode. So, I'm obviously gonna have to watch more for a better feel of this show. Ending of the episode was pretty interesting, though. And the "bad mother" line was pretty funny, because it was just so unexpected.

Vyse

04-27-2008, 02:13 AM

"Suicide is painless!"

Also, everything is a lie! And, the sped-up end looks jumpy on a tv. The still images were bouncing up and down the screen.

BTW, Katsumara, I have DirecTV HD (which has CN/[as] in HD) and a HDTV in my room (forgot the size), and I hate that the network(s) stretch their non-HD shows (i.e. all of them) to fill up the screen size, thus ruining the original aspect ratio. Sure, the picture is clearer on the HD feed than on the SD feed, and the initial audio problems the net have has cleared up a little, but I can't stand seeing characters unintentionally having fat faces. At least CN/[as] don't list their non-HD properties as "presented in HD" like sister nets TBS and TNT do.

[/rant?]

Samurai

04-27-2008, 02:34 AM

So Britannia = America?

Paul_Cousins

04-27-2008, 02:37 AM

He is more or less a anti-hero.
He's a very complicated character.

With the Light-Lulu comparison IGN's article says it's best.
"But even the comparison to Light isn't quite accurate. Though Lelouch often walks on the tight rope between freedom fighter and terrorist, he never falls. He doesn't completely lose his grip on reality and morality."It's nice to know that Lelouch doesn't become the raging psychopathic monster like Light becomes.

That's what I hated about Light, his total corruption with the power he get.

I find it funny that this episode centers around a power that basically boils down to a (Jedi) mind trick, where's Jabba when you need him. :p

Maenos

04-27-2008, 02:48 AM

Only real problem and it does have to do with transition. 30 second ending followed by no preview = fail. Other than that, the dub wasn't horrible.

Memory serves, the first episode didn't have a preview, for some reason, so that wasn't cut.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 02:52 AM

Memory serves, the first episode didn't have a preview, for some reason, so that wasn't cut.

That is correct. There was no preview for the first episode. I'm sure they will include the first preview thats included with episode 2.

Katsumara

04-27-2008, 03:50 AM

That is correct. There was no preview for the first episode. I'm sure they will include the first preview thats included with episode 2.

You know, I just went back and rewatched. That is right. D: My bad. So just the seemingly fast-forwarded ending was bad. Sorry!

"Suicide is painless!"

Also, everything is a lie! And, the sped-up end looks jumpy on a tv. The still images were bouncing up and down the screen.

BTW, Katsumara, I have DirecTV HD (which has CN/[as] in HD) and a HDTV in my room (forgot the size), and I hate that the network(s) stretch their non-HD shows (i.e. all of them) to fill up the screen size, thus ruining the original aspect ratio. Sure, the picture is clearer on the HD feed than on the SD feed, and the initial audio problems the net have has cleared up a little, but I can't stand seeing characters unintentionally having fat faces. At least CN/[as] don't list their non-HD properties as "presented in HD" like sister nets TBS and TNT do.

[/rant?]

Ah, yeah. See, I live in a small town so I have Brighthouse HD, so no HD Cartoon Network/[as]. Just mainly TNT, TBS, ABC/NBC/CBS/ESPN/2, and all those channels. Only about 20 HD channels. It sucks so much, but it's better than just crappy SD. Most of the programming on the main channels don't stretch out to the full screen for me, but puts black boxes around a small screen and just reduced the resolution. I figured maybe that's what it would do for CN/[as], but I guess every network is different in that way. That or maybe it's just the type of TV you use, I don't know.

Sketch

04-27-2008, 04:53 AM

Neat that it's in wide screen for broadcast.

Shirley's lisp was even more annoying on the second watch.

SpaceCowboy

04-27-2008, 10:13 AM

This was pretty good for a first episode. I'd like to see more. And Sunrise's excellent animation quality is a nice change of pace from the shows with varying animation quality like Gonzo's stuff on IFC.

kid rabbit

04-27-2008, 10:40 AM

I was surprise lelouch wasn't as much a self-rightous ass I'd thought he'd be

XOMiss_Samantha

04-27-2008, 10:43 AM

I was surprise lelouch wasn't as much a self-rightous ass I'd thought he'd be

Now that he has this new kind of power, Lulu's got a reason to be the self-righteous ass people associate him as. Before the end of the episode, he was just a simple kid who didn't have the means to intervene. With in the next few weeks his ego will go straight to hell.

macattack

04-27-2008, 11:10 AM

So Britannia = America?

And Canada, and Mexico, and Brazil, and Argentina . . . :sweat:

Lightning Tiger

04-27-2008, 11:45 AM

And Canada, and Mexico, and Brazil, and Argentina . . . :sweat:

dont forget the carabean and Iceland and Greenland

AxeltheNavy

04-27-2008, 11:47 AM

Awsome show!

Kallen: "You know full well what this badass-mutha can DO!"

And can someone rimind me WHY they started killing ppls?

garfield15

04-27-2008, 12:05 PM

Kallen: "You know full well what this badass-mutha can DO!"

And can someone rimind me WHY they started killing ppls?

I have to admit, I started cracking up when Kallen said that. Just cause it was so random to hear badass-mutha

They were killing everyone because since the army had lost the "poison gas" Clovis was afraid that others would find out. So to hide the evidence, he did the only sensible thing. Wipe everybody out.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 03:32 PM

Yes, Clovis order a genocide to cover such a large srew up. And Clovis called this genocide "Urban Renewal". You think about that...

Christopher Soul

04-27-2008, 03:36 PM

Yes, Clovis order a genocide to cover such a large srew up. And Clovis called this genocide "Urban Renewal". You think about that...
Makes me think of a NAZI cover up during WWII.

Mr. Toto

04-27-2008, 04:23 PM

Great dub. Rivalz and Shirley sound exactly like their Japanese counterparts, and I really like everyone else (except maybe Kallen).

But man, Suzaku's such a good friend. Twice, he didn't hesitate to save Lelouch's life instead of his. I didn't notice in the Japanese broadcast, but he gave Lelouch his gas mask when the "poison gas" was coming out, and then proceeded to refuse shooting him. Good stuff.

livingfruitvirus

04-27-2008, 04:23 PM

This show is riding up the AS Video hits. 125k and has a 20k lead over Death Note.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 04:45 PM

This show is riding up the AS Video hits. 125k and has a 20k lead over Death Note.

Thats great news! I've got to watch it again and again and again. :anime:

Everyone, support the rebellion on AS fix!

Lightning Tiger

04-27-2008, 04:47 PM

since its episode 1 its # views mean nothing, some people might hate the series and not watch again.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 04:53 PM

since its episode 1 its # views mean nothing, some people might hate the series and not watch again.

Ouch, so negative. :(

Ultra8

04-27-2008, 05:15 PM

Well this was un-expected, I wasn't expecting the 1st episode to end with 2 or 3 of the characters that were in the intro to be dead or dying. I mean I realize this is a war show, but usually having a spot in the Opening credits guarantees you at least an episode or 2 before you buy the farm.:eek:

Consider me intrigued(if not yet hooked):D .
Weird-headed mechs, villans that are total douge-bags, with ego's the size of mid-size countries, and creepy-hpyno eyes. Clamp & Sunrise no how to wow people.

River26

04-27-2008, 05:59 PM

Code Geass Ending 1 - Full Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPoHAu1qrk)

For those of you who are interested.

Thanks, but I'd rather watch it with the english credits and the official english subtitle translation (via the DVD), sorry. Instead of reading the unofficial or dare I say it; "Fake subs" throughout the ending.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 06:00 PM

Thanks, but I'd rather watch it with the english credits and the official english subtitle translation (via the DVD), sorry. Instead of reading the unofficial or dare I say it; "Fake subs" throughout the ending.

Well, if you wish to wait to here a great song...err...ok?!

Beat

04-27-2008, 06:10 PM

since its episode 1 its # views mean nothing, some people might hate the series and not watch again.

Not to mention a majority of those are probably under 18 hits.

And of course, $5 on Aqua Teen slaughtering both DN and Geass.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 06:11 PM

Not to mention a majority of those are probably under 18 hits.

And of course, $5 on Aqua Teen slaughtering both DN and Geass.

Well, Aqua Teen is GOD!

Sketch

04-27-2008, 06:16 PM

since its episode 1 its # views mean nothing, some people might hate the series and not watch again.

Probably not many, it has the ability to hook viewers pretty well. Even so, if they give up on it now then it's only their loss.

livingfruitvirus

04-27-2008, 06:20 PM

Not to mention a majority of those are probably under 18 hits.

And of course, $5 on Aqua Teen slaughtering both DN and Geass.

Bandai doesn't care about demos. Anyone who likes the show and has money in their pocket is fine for them.

There's no new Aqua Teen this week. If you're talking about Ezekial, its hits from previous online views roll over into the next ones.

Darklordavaitor

04-27-2008, 06:26 PM

Hmm, I was expecting more, but I'm still intrigued. I'll stick around for the next few eps, but I want an improvement over episode 1.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 06:29 PM

but I want an improvement over episode 1.

And you shall get that!

sparkykandy

04-27-2008, 07:24 PM

Clovis is hot. :anime:

The first part of ending credits look very interesting.

As, for the episode itself, eh, it was okay. Since it's the first episode and all, I'm sure it'll pick up later on.

garfield15

04-27-2008, 07:47 PM

Hmm, I was expecting more, but I'm still intrigued. I'll stick around for the next few eps, but I want an improvement over episode 1.

You want more, you are so getting it next week

Mugen

04-27-2008, 08:05 PM

Kagetsu

04-27-2008, 08:17 PM

You know, while watching this last night, the vibe I was feeling was nostalgia. It reminded me of the earlier days of sneaking out of bed and watching the Toonami Midnight Run to see uncut Gundam Wing. Or staying up and watching 08th MS Team. I know these shows are different from each other, but that was the vibe I was feeling(that and seeing those shorten credits. Vintage WS). And that's a good thing.:cool:
Hmm. I've never heard of this show and have no idea where it's going. They have mech's like E7, but the base story seems so whack. I'll give the Britannia
Empire the lee way I gave the American Empire in GitS. But I'm already very skeptical of the view of Japan as a resource power. Geopolitically it's a bad choice.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 08:18 PM

Its amussing since in real life Japan is resource poor but everything is explained in the show.

animePWNS

04-27-2008, 08:44 PM

I'm getting a Gundam Seed vibe here. A highly anticipated mech anime from Bandai, floods of forum posts here, and it's airing in the late hours on the weekend. Although this show seems to be less edited, and we've already got some interesting stuff going in the first episode like Lelouch's power. I haven't been a big fan of CLAMP's long thin leg designs, but this does look to be an interesting show. I think I'm in for a hell of a ride here.

I wonder if
Suzaku and that girl really have been killed off so soon.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 09:13 PM

From AS boards

For anyone who (has) played Persona 3 might find Kallen's voice a little familar
Its Aegis

Vyse

04-27-2008, 10:17 PM

Ah, yeah. See, I live in a small town so I have Brighthouse HD, so no HD Cartoon Network/[as]. Just mainly TNT, TBS, ABC/NBC/CBS/ESPN/2, and all those channels. Only about 20 HD channels. It sucks so much, but it's better than just crappy SD. Most of the programming on the main channels don't stretch out to the full screen for me, but puts black boxes around a small screen and just reduced the resolution. I figured maybe that's what it would do for CN/[as], but I guess every network is different in that way. That or maybe it's just the type of TV you use, I don't know.
You are right on how every HD feed operates differently when it comes to presenting the SD content. CN/[as], like sister nets TBS and TNT, stretches non-HD content to fill up the screen size. In the case of TBS/TNT, they also label non-HD stuff as HD on the on-screen guides; trust me when I say that Friends has never, EEEEEVVVEEERR! been made in HD. Ironically, CNN's HD feed doesn't stretch the 4:3 stuff.

CN/[as] has been broadcasting in HD since October 15, 2007, and not a single ounce of HD content has aired on it; it's annoying. Then again, it took TBS about 7-8 months after its HD debut to regularly air HD content that wasn't baseball, so time is needed. But, with the fact that both Disney Channel and Toon Disney/Jetix have aired more HD content in 26 days than CN/[as] has in 7 1/2 months is sad. I just hope that when VB season 3 debuts on June 1st in true HD, more HD content will follow, and that the widescreen [as] shows (like Geass) are shown without the black bars and that CN somehow secretly made Ben 10 Alien Force and Transformers Animated in HD/widescreen like how Disney did.

Enough off-topic ranting about HD, I'll state that they'll probably not air the episode previews for the entire series due to time constraints. Yes, it's only 15-30 seconds, but that's precious 1:55 am ad money we're talking about!

SSJPabs

04-27-2008, 10:54 PM

Wow, Code Geass is terrible.

I dislike the designs (both world and character).
I dislike the names.
I dislike the color palette.
I dislike the voices (the Bleachies just don't fit!).
I dislike the barely concealed anti-Americanism (I actually am rather harsh on this country myself but it's about as subtle as a falling piano in CG).
I dislike the incredible amounts of bombast in the script.
In fact the show is so over-the-top it's nauseating.

I forced myself to watch the entire episode hoping it would get better but it never did.

Clamp fails again. Count me out.

Note: I am fully aware that I am in the tiny minority on this and I won't be posting anti CG screeds so by all means enjoy it.
Note2: Changed 'hate' to 'dislike' because it is too strong a word for my reaction.

bigdeath

04-27-2008, 11:17 PM

Ryusuke

04-27-2008, 11:34 PM

I'm not quite a CLAMP fan myself. ;)

The first episode was alright. The pacing was a bit uneven and the characters barely had enough time to breath. Transition from scene to scene felt random and it didn't flow well. The only character that proven himself to be a interesting character is Lelouch...and Lloyd (XD). Action moved fast-paced and overall better animated than SEED. Though, the one thing that grabbed me was the ending. The way Lelouch just made those soldiers shoot themselves was a shock. And, the fact that he didn't scream piles onto that.

Johnny Yong Bosch surprised me here. I have a feeling that he'll get better as the show progresses (even though I still think he should switch places with Yuri but whatever). Yuri Lowenthal, Crispin Freeman and Liam O'Brien do exceptionally well in their roles. The rest is either somewhat shakey, but sounded better near the end or solid.

Colors by FLOW is awesome. :D

purplehairedwonder

04-27-2008, 11:54 PM

Geass is one of my favorite series, so I've been looking forward to seeing the dub for awhile. I finally got around to seeing the episode and was pretty happy with the dub cast. I was surprised at how well JYB actually did with Lulu. He was spot on in the scene where he ordered the soldiers to die. I got shivers. Yuri makes a great Suzaku (double fangirl squee!) and Liam's Llyod was absolutely perfect. Crispin really fit Jeremiah and C.C. sounded decent. Kallen sounded off in her first line but for the rest of the episode sounded right. Clovis was also just right. Shirley, however, I'm not convinced with yet. But I'm hopeful she'll improve.

Overall, Geass seems to be getting good treatment and I'm glad to see that. It's a fun ride, so get ready ;)

JTurner954

04-28-2008, 01:52 AM

Watched the first episode and thought it was okay. A little too much dialogue for me though the suicide scene at the end was neat.

I have one question that's been bugging me since the episode ended:

When does the Pizza Hut show up?

Christopher Soul

04-28-2008, 01:56 AM

Yes
Already did.
It was edited out.

bigdeath

04-28-2008, 02:07 AM

Pizza Hut USA does not support the rebellion. :( I wonder if they keep cheeze-kun in?

Taylor Karras

04-28-2008, 02:42 AM

I may of missed it. But hey, I may catch it on AS Video.

Justy

04-28-2008, 02:44 AM

I hadn't seen anything but stills from the show until now and I definately like what I see! I too felt a "Gundam Seed vibe" while I was watching and had forgotten it was CLAMP show. (I don't think CN has had a CLAMP show on before, correct?) CLAMP with mecha...wow..

CN is REALLY pushing the envelope with this one....LOTS of blood..WAY more than Eureka, at least on the tube...

The portrayal of the opposing sides should be a non-issue...it's a work of fiction. Anyway, remember it was produced in Japan so they have "Japan-centric" shows and movies, the same way a lot of what America sees on TV and in movies is slanted to the American point of view.

Voice acting seemed ok, but it's kind of early to tell one way or the other...JYB strikes again! He's gotten to do a lot of work in some really prominent roles. Glad he's coming to Metro again this year...if Code Geass is a hit, more folks may come to see him. He's a really nice guy...and his band ROCKS!

bigdeath

04-28-2008, 02:49 AM

Its not a CLAMP show. Clamp only did the character designs. Code Geass is very much a sunrise show.

Katsumara

04-28-2008, 04:07 AM

Wow, Code Geass is terrible.

I hate the designs (both world and character).
I hate the names.
I hate the color palette.
I hate the voices (the Bleachies just don't fit!).
I hate the barely concealed anti-Americanism (I actually am rather harsh on this country myself but it's about as subtle as a falling piano in CG).
I hate the incredible amounts of bombast in the script.
In fact the show is so over-the-top it's nauseating.

I forced myself to watch the entire episode hoping it would get better but it never did.

Clamp fails again. Count me out.

Note: I am fully aware that I am in the tiny minority on this and I won't be posting anti CG screeds so by all means enjoy it.

Wow. o.o; I'm usually forgiving on dubs, but on shows I like a lot, I'm more judgmental, but this is just ridiculous. Bash, bash, bash. Twenty-three minutes into a series and I think a bomb just got dropped on Area 11! (See what I did there? I made a funny. Srsly. Laugh. I command it.)

Anyway, it is nice to see positive stuff about a series that's not Venture Brothers. Hopefully it'll keep up. When do ratings come out? I'd be interested to see how it did.

SSJPabs

04-28-2008, 04:14 AM

The portrayal of the opposing sides should be a non-issue...it's a work of fiction. Anyway, remember it was produced in Japan so they have "Japan-centric" shows and movies, the same way a lot of what America sees on TV and in movies is slanted to the American point of view.

I guess the second thing is directed to my comment above. Just why should it be a non-issue because it's a work of fiction? 24 is a work of fiction, but it's inspired interrogators in regards to techniques used on people they'd taken into custody. The Japanese are free to critique American programs for being stupidly American and they'd be right to do so--because it's being offered in their market. I am a very vocal critic of my government and its policies as well as my own lifestyle, so that doesn't bother me. Instead look at the line "We're not 11s, we're Japanese!!" Now there's nothing wrong with the sentiment but my response was some tasty roffles. It's so overly dramatic it's laughable. I know I'm closer to thirty than twenty and I'm am not demanding Reign, GITS or even Blood+ type dialog, but is it really too much to ask for a little sophistication or subtlety in a block that is at least nominally for "adults?"

@Katsumara: Why pray tell is it ridiculous? I'm not bashing it just to be contrary. Hate is too strong a word, but those things I listed were all things that made me not like the show. Btw, my problem with the voices is that I think they are too good for the designs. I actually had a very similar reaction to Venture Brothers though I never made it through a whole show on that one, I admit.

Sketch

04-28-2008, 04:37 AM

Yuri makes a great Suzaku (double fangirl squee!)

A pitty you'll never hear my Suzaku.

The overuse of JYB and Yuri is becoming a bit staggering. But I'll give it a few more episodes before I decide if I like them in these roles. Honestly, JYB was always Suzaku in my mind and Lulu was either Jason Spisak or even Steve Staley. JYB isn't offering enough difference between his tone as carasmatic school boy Lelouch and authorative tactician Zero but I suppose he may be saving that difference for when he actually dons the mask. So I'll say again I wont make my judgement on JYB's performance until I see a few more episodes.

Though there's one thing that really bothers me about Yuri's Suzaku. That clip I heard from when Suzaku is screaming. It's... just... awful. Admitedly I'm not a very good screamer either but as this is his proffession and he gets lots of jobs... Yuri really needs to learn how to scream. Maybe Spike Spencer could give him some pointers. :anime:

I'm am not demanding Reign, GITS or even Blood+ type dialog, but is it really too much to ask for a little sophistication or subtlety in a block that is at least nominally for "adults?"

So... are you saying this show should be on Toonami?

I'm all for Adult Swim playing shows with more sophistication but Geass gets pretty involved as it goes on so I'm okay with it being on Adult Swim even though I think it would probably do pretty well with Toonami's audience.

Katsumara

04-28-2008, 04:50 AM

I guess the second thing is directed to my comment above. Just why should it be a non-issue because it's a work of fiction? 24 is a work of fiction, but it's inspired interrogators in regards to techniques used on people they'd taken into custody. The Japanese are free to critique American programs for being stupidly American and they'd be right to do so--because it's being offered in their market. I am a very vocal critic of my government and its policies as well as my own lifestyle, so that doesn't bother me. Instead look at the line "We're not 11s, we're Japanese!!" Now there's nothing wrong with the sentiment but my response was some tasty roffles. It's so overly dramatic it's laughable. I know I'm closer to thirty than twenty and I'm am not demanding Reign, GITS or even Blood+ type dialog, but is it really too much to ask for a little sophistication or subtlety in a block that is at least nominally for "adults?"

@Katsumara: Why pray tell is it ridiculous? I'm not bashing it just to be contrary. Hate is too strong a word, but those things I listed were all things that made me not like the show. Btw, my problem with the voices is that I think they are too good for the designs. I actually had a very similar reaction to Venture Brothers though I never made it through a whole show on that one, I admit.

Well, on the note of overly dramatic, why is that a problem? I suppose the show should just be dull and boring like Blood+'s dialog. At least it was boring to me, but I still watched and didn't poo-poo on the show. I'm not going to be the typical fan boy and go "Zomg, you haven't watched the show, you don't know crap about what you're talking about baawwwwwww" but I still think you overreacted after one episode.

I find it ridiculous because of reasons I stated above. You pounced it quicker than a lion pouncing a defenseless antelope. You ripped it to shreds. I'm not sure what's wrong with the designs. I find them cleaner in some sense and fitting for what the show is about. It's a nice change. Granted I wouldn't want it done this way in every show, but it's still not bad to look at. While not being the typical fanboy, I still find it hard to comprehend how someone can completely crap on a series without seeing more than twenty-three minutes.

Honestly, I guess it isn't completely wrong. As soon as I saw Tim & Eric/Home Movies, and the majority of our "Comedy" block, I almost threw up in my mouth and turned it off quickly, so I suppose everyone is allowed to hate something on first sight. Sorry if it seemed I was being rude about your opinions. Some like it, some don't. We just have to deal I guess. =p

Christopher Soul

04-28-2008, 08:23 AM

Scenes from Next Week's episode via Bandai Entertainment! (http://revver.com/video/847475/code-geass-ep-2-preview/)

Beat

04-28-2008, 08:26 AM

Speedy Boris

04-28-2008, 08:51 AM

I'm not sure what's wrong with the designs. I find them cleaner in some sense and fitting for what the show is about. It's a nice change. Granted I wouldn't want it done this way in every show, but it's still not bad to look at. Agreed. Geass's designs are awesome. Completely memorable, unique clothing, just the right amount of detail, I love 'em. CLAMP and Takahiro Kimura= a solid combination.

And listen, just a reminder to everyone here: Criticizing and critiquing Code Geass is OK, bashing isn't. Nobody's quite crossed the line yet, but just be mindful that others enjoy this show when posting.

Rolling Cloud

04-28-2008, 08:56 AM

Yes
Already did.
It was edited out.

Source? o.o

CN is REALLY pushing the envelope with this one....LOTS of blood..WAY more than Eureka, at least on the tube...

Evangelion, GITS: SAC, and Blood+ had a lot of blood. I doubt this is anything different. xD

Beat

04-28-2008, 09:18 AM

And listen, just a reminder to everyone here: Criticizing and critiquing Code Geass is OK, bashing isn't. Nobody's quite crossed the line yet, but just be mindful that others enjoy this show when posting.

I'm not bashing, but I really don't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I see too many parallels to Wing, maybe it's the disturbing levels of jingoism, or maybe it is that the designs seem to be a little too feminine. The crown prince seems like a bad actor trying to impersonate Trieze of all people.

I'd rate the first episode passable. It didn't send me into fits of rage and boredom like Eureka 7 did, but it wasn't a crowd-grabber either.

GWOtaku

04-28-2008, 10:11 AM

On the matter of jingoism, I think criticizing Karen's "were Japanese, not elevens!" line is like saying Red Dawn is too pro-American. Consider the context. When conquering invaders come to your country and start breaking things, I'd say that swelling patriotism proportional to hatred for the invaders is a natural response. Even more so when you're not only invaded but arrogantly deprived of your national identity. Anybody would have an angry, visceral reaction, let alone a resistance fighter.

Comparing Geass against Gundam Wing is something I haven't heard before. To me Wing is more talkative and at times more eloquent while less overwrought in its dialogue. See Clovis' "My heart was ripped from my chest only to be crushed!" line. That was a BS performance for the media, but still.

Captain Highwind

04-28-2008, 10:36 AM

Scenes from Next Week's episode via Bandai Entertainment! (http://revver.com/video/847475/code-geass-ep-2-preview/)

A little roundabout method, but at least somebody's showing them.

So is Bandai going to stream episodes too for awhile like they did Eureka Seven?

And more Latino music! :anime:

airfighter

04-28-2008, 12:46 PM

I'd have to spoil the show in order to fully address how I view the whole "jingoism" issue, in hindsight, so I might as well stop talking about it and let those who continue watching the show reach their own conclusions.

As for comparing the show to Gundam Wing...that's a new one. I think it has far more parallels to Gundam Seed, and some of those end up being subverted in the long turn. Can't say how, of course.

bigdeath

04-28-2008, 12:52 PM

Source? o.o

Err, we watch the Japaneses airing. Is that a good source?

I see too many parallels to Wing,

But I love wing and eureka 7 so I must say, I really can't use you as a judge of anime. Besides, Code Geass is certainly not like wing or eureka 7. You could tell that right from the start.

And yeah, if you don't like an over the top anime then you won't like this show since it only gets more over the top.

And that preview was not in the original airing. Bandai just spliced that together for the US airing.

Also, lots of Jazz in Code Geass. Makes me wonder who on the staff likes jazz music. By the way, who does the music for Code Geass and what other anime have they done before? I got the OST and I love the music for this show.

Beat

04-28-2008, 01:30 PM

Gurren Laggan is deep man. So is New Getter Robo.

Super giant robot shows make a statement about a very topical subject, how to be a real man!

That and people prefer manly characters to wimpy ones. I dunno about you, but after seeing Ryoma, going back to Renton is hard. At the very least and this is a positive I neglected to mention, Lelouch isn't a whiner. He's not going to fight off 30 guys like Ryoma did in his first appearance, but he at least has initative. I'm sure if he does get a robot eventually, he'll actually be willing to use it. Is Lelouch going to scream a henshin sequence in a really loud voice (CHAAAAAAANGE GEEEETA ONE! FTW) Of course not, not that type of show. But I don't see him whining about killing either.

But I love wing and eureka 7 so I must say, I really can't use you as a judge of anime. Besides, Code Geass is certainly not like wing or eureka 7. You could tell that right from the start.

No, it's not. I just saw some elements that reminded me of Wing a lot, and that I found interesting. The plots are going in two totally different directions, and you'd have to be blind to assume otherwise.

Also, don't dismiss jingoism or patriotic virtol as being silly or fantastical. Red Dawn was a propaganda movie that was over the top, but its themes still struck many despite the quality of the movie itself.

SSJPabs

04-28-2008, 01:30 PM

Well, on the note of overly dramatic, why is that a problem? I suppose the show should just be dull and boring like Blood+'s dialog. At least it was boring to me, but I still watched and didn't poo-poo on the show. I'm not going to be the typical fan boy and go "Zomg, you haven't watched the show, you don't know crap about what you're talking about baawwwwwww" but I still think you overreacted after one episode.

I find it ridiculous because of reasons I stated above. You pounced it quicker than a lion pouncing a defenseless antelope. You ripped it to shreds. I'm not sure what's wrong with the designs. I find them cleaner in some sense and fitting for what the show is about. It's a nice change. Granted I wouldn't want it done this way in every show, but it's still not bad to look at. While not being the typical fanboy, I still find it hard to comprehend how someone can completely crap on a series without seeing more than twenty-three minutes.
Where you found B+'s dialog dull or dry, I found it subtle and with hidden meanings that made the whole thing fascinating to watch. I was getting an extra layer of story from what the characters didn't say and I was honestly sorry when each episode was over because of it. I wish more anime could have dialog like that. But no one made you watch (and judging by the ratings, most people didn't). Should I not have criticized the show?

Look, we obviously have different tastes in designs but let's take Lelouche as an example. To save space I'm going to put in a spoiler read it you want, it's not a big deal. And please, I hope I don't offend you that's not my intent:

I find his face too angular, his hair too stringy, his eyes too big for his eye-shape and his body awkwardly thin. To me he looks breakable and too dissimilar to reality for me to enjoy. I am a very visual person, if a show has design that I don't like it is really distracting to me. Conversely if a show has good designs I am more apt to watch it even if it's not my favorite (Trigun). I actually am a fan of 19th century military uniforms which the costuming seems to invoke, but those uniforms look best on more real-life proportioned bodies and for me the whole effect is even more distracting. Frankly I have the same problem with modern Gundam.

The name itself. It sounds French, but he's supposed to be British/North American. I actually read the time-line so I know his people were NOT of Anglo-Saxon descent, if anything the empire would have a more Welsh/Gael-type aristocracy and language since there were no Romano-Britons in that time-line. Of course I also don't like it because it sounds a lot like "LaRouche" as in Lyndon, but that's my problem.

In terms of bombast, remember that scene in ep. 14 of Big O where Norman is on stage with Roger as he remembers how he found Big O? The dialog in that scene was trilled and nearly sung, sounding artificially constructed and full or portentous statements. That was a consequence of the scene, but that's how CG's dialog struck me throughout this episode. I suppose the exception was the girls at school but since we never really "met" them in this episode (the POVs are mainly of Lelouche, his buddy on the bike, and the "Empire") it's difficult to relate to them--I'm asuming Lelouche is going to get to class eventually so perhaps we should save the intros until he runs into them.

But don't worry, as I said, I'm in the minority and everyone else loves the show so I'm sure it can take care of itself. It's really more like a horse fly jumping on a hippo.

bigdeath

04-28-2008, 01:51 PM

Looks like someone doesn't like Clamp designs but don't worry, your not the only one.

As for your other issues with the show, well, they all can't be addressed in the first eppy (and they are addressed). Code Geass just uses the tried and true method of jumping right into the action on the first episode rather than having a slow build up.

BattleStar Galactica is another show like that, it also has a ton of characters that are thrown into chaos right from the start. Some people love that fast pace, action packed, cliffhanger filled story telling style and others hate it.

Beefy

04-28-2008, 03:05 PM

dont forget the carabean and Iceland and Greenland
Why would anybody want Greenland?
On that map Britannia also has New Zealand.

This was my first time watching this series and not knowing anything about it, I was pleasantly surprised throughout the episode.

I thought they stole some secret prototype mech in that truck. Instead it was a girl. Surprise #1

Lelouch's old childhood friend and the green haired girl both get shot in the first episode? Dang. I wasn't expecting that. Surprise #3

Ok, so maybe this green haired girl is a genetically engineered pilot for some secret prototype mech? Nope, she gives Lelouch mind control powers and he goes Kira (Death Note Kira, not SEED Kira) on us. Surprise #4

So it wasn't poison gas they were transporting, but rather a girl, and she wasn't even naked. So much for the anime law that girls have to be naked when transporting them in a tube or a briefcase. Surprise #2

I was expecting this series to revolve heavily around the mecha, I'm glad that doesn't seem to be the case.

Dark Moridin

04-28-2008, 07:04 PM

ok, it took a few days to read almost everything, as I had to skip spoiler boxes and anything that remotely looked like hints of episodes to come (USE THE BOXES PEOPLE!). I will start with my opinions of this first eppy,

the opening and coloring immediately gave me an E7/Seed vibe, from all the action-y cuts to the quick jump into the main action. not a bad combo in my book. After watching most of the episode, I thought that aside from the dialog (very heavy), I would see alot of people here clamoring for this to be on Toonami (why isn't anyone ever happy to just have anime?). of course, seeing the end was just a whoa moment. glad I avoided spoilers, as I am sure someone already said something about this on another board as soon as this was announced. Seeing (lulu is it, don't know his actual name well enough) going Light Yagami on everyone was a stunner, more so that this mystery girl and his friend (who apparently lives somehow, thanks for speaking about him in the present people!) getting shot, that was a nice set up before the actual order came in.

Me: ouch, they shot his friend. DANG they shot the gi.....OMFGWTF he just did WHAT!!!!

very nice way to introduce us to a new show.

Now for all the complaints and all that, my little opinion.

sure, there is traces of imperialism, discrimination (not quite racism, but very VERY close to it), as well as it being over the top and some similar designs, but considering how much anime has been out there, and how much of it has been influential, people shouldn't be so critical of a show taking some reused ideas and adding their own twist to it. think about it, video games, movies and other popular media reuse ideas all the time, trying to make it more and more appealing than the last time it was used. For people who are going to complain about those aspects of a show, they should stop watching (actually, don't, we don't have enough anime as it is).

as for those who say that this series is too over the top, that is the one semi-spoiler that I like. for all those who liked Bo^7 for it being over the top, I had to admit, that even though i stopped watching it midway thru, it was DIFFERENT! it played on all kinds of stereotypes of comedies that make fun of anime, and just went flat out 1000 miles an hour with them. Most mech anime that I have seen is usually good but always so seriously SERIOUS about whatever point they're trying to prove. it is nice to see someone trying to do something different with a genre that while over done, is still one of my favorites. I only hope that they actually still try to tell a story with this (my problem with Bo^7) while still being over the top, and over embellishing the stereo types.

To think, a series that tells a story (and I hope a good one) while not only being over the top, but using designs and coloring that reminds me of other series that I found interesting and compelling. About the only gripe I could agree with was the over use of certain VA's. Now don't get me wrong, i am not that big a critic (didn't know who Bosh and Freeman were till I came here), but when you hear the same voices on what, 6 or 7 different animes over the course of 3 years. can someone tell me where they do scouting for VA's and how I can apply? i mean, seriously, i turned for a minute while drinking on sunday to pick up my can, and thought I passed out and woke up during the replay of Bleach (i had recorded Saturday nite stuff). other than that, nice fish hook, we'll see if it keeps me hooked.

*whew*, out of breath (for my fingers)

MeggieMay

04-28-2008, 07:20 PM

Why would anybody want Greenland?
On that map Britannia also has New Zealand.

Yeah, I noticed that, along with Australia seemingly being unconnected from any other group (they're a separate color) :anime: . Actually, the map reminded me more of a Blu Ray region map than a logically put together political map ;) .

bigdeath

04-28-2008, 08:45 PM

Yeah, I noticed that, along with Australia seemingly being unconnected from any other group (they're a separate color) :anime: . Actually, the map reminded me more of a Blu Ray region map than a logically put together political map ;) .

You call the Real life map of the world a logically put together political map? :sweat:

Justy

04-29-2008, 12:36 AM

Its not a CLAMP show. Clamp only did the character designs. Code Geass is very much a sunrise show.
As CLAMP did the character designs (just as they do for their manga works), it IS a CLAMP show..Sunrise just produced it. I don't think CLAMP produces anime titles themselves....

Evangelion, GITS: SAC, and Blood+ had a lot of blood. I doubt this is anything different.
True..these three have a lot of blood...but, AS kept running the "intense violence" tag for Eureka when it wasn't nearly as bloody as the others. Blood+'s violence was mostly with swords, though...not firearms...seems the violence is more intense in Geass, at least for now...

bigdeath

04-29-2008, 12:41 AM

Well, I'd say its a Sunrise show since they wrote the story and did the animation. Clamp only did the character designs. But point taken. :sweat:

Grenzer

04-29-2008, 01:07 AM

Yeah, I noticed that, along with Australia seemingly being unconnected from any other group (they're a separate color) :anime: .

Clearly the Aborigines are patiently biding their time in the Outback, waiting for the Britainnians to slip up. At which point the world will learn the true power of their dreaded Kangamare Frame mechas, equipped with unstoppable plasma boomerangs. The world better get used to speaking Pitjantjatjara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitjantjatjara_language), because no Bishonen will ever be stop these mates.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. :p

kaine23

04-29-2008, 11:29 AM

See page 2 for the Wiki c&p of this alt. history timeline.

I'm liking the dub so far, still iffy on a few voices. Make final decision once I hear Bosch go all out as Zero.
SUZAKU SPIN KICK TIMEZ!!

Wow, never realized C.C. was in the background with the younger Lulu and Suzaku.

Geass and Bleach should be paired up for the Johhny Yong Boush Happy Hour.

shoujoaifan

04-29-2008, 03:43 PM

I haven't gotten around to watching this yet (college exams are this week). I've got a question: Is Pizza Hut still the unifying force between the universes? :D

Beat

04-29-2008, 03:46 PM

No, all references to Pizza Hut were edited out.

shoujoaifan

04-29-2008, 03:51 PM

No, all references to Pizza Hut were edited out.Bummer. Well, it would make sense if AS or the dubbing studio didn't want to give out free advertising or scrae away any commercial buisness for other pizzerias.

Unless Pizza Hut asked them not to show it, which wouldn't much sense, since they basically paid for that advetising in Japan, but maybe they would have to pay for it again and/or sponsor the show again, or whatever.

Well, a show would have to be good on its own anyway. If it can't stand on its own without product placement, then the revolution is lost :p

garfield15

04-29-2008, 05:50 PM

I don't remember Pizza Hut references in the first episode. Would it be possible for someone to post some comparison images so I can see where they edited it out?

kaine23

04-29-2008, 10:59 PM

I don't remember Pizza Hut references in the first episode. Would it be possible for someone to post some comparison images so I can see where they edited it out?

I think Pizza Hut starts showing up in a few episodes when C.C. makes regular appearances.

MeggieMay

04-29-2008, 11:39 PM

You call the Real life map of the world a logically put together political map? :sweat:

No, but that would be the point. The map in the picture is way too organized - like a DVD or Blu Ray region map :sweat:.

Oh BTW, I read on another board (http://www.animeondvd.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=1292058#post1292058) that when they showed some episodes of Code Geass at NYCComic Con a few weekends ago the tapes they ran said "Broadcast Masters - No Pizza Hut Logo version." Interesting, IMO, because why mention the Pizza Hut situation at all unless there is a video Master that still has them included (such as the DVD Masters???) ?

bigdeath

04-29-2008, 11:43 PM

No, but that would be the point. The map in the picture is way too organized - like a DVD or Blu Ray region map :sweat:.

But no one says that about gundam 00s political map. Or did I miss that?

And thanks for the link, intresting read.

Maenos

04-29-2008, 11:45 PM

I don't remember Pizza Hut references in the first episode. Would it be possible for someone to post some comparison images so I can see where they edited it out?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/Maenos/CGPizzahutep1.jpg

bigdeath

04-29-2008, 11:55 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/Maenos/CGPizzahutep1.jpg

Thank you. No one ever notices that Pizzahut AD. :sweat:

MeggieMay

04-29-2008, 11:57 PM

But no one says that about gundam 00s political map. Or did I miss that?

I can remember ever reading a real discussion on the Gundam 00 political map, so I wouldn't know what has or hasn't been said about it. As for the maps for Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny, I have been involved in a few discussions about those. My main joke about the SEED/Destiny maps is how Orb seems to float around like that island in the movie Doctor Doolittle. Why? Well in SEED Orb was near-ish Hawaii and in Destiny Orb is off the North East coast of New Zealand. I had to wonder if Orb has a outboard motor or if the Archangel tows it around or just what is going on :sweat:

And thanks for the link, intresting read.Your welcome :) .

bigdeath

04-30-2008, 12:54 AM

The release dates for Season 1 Sets 2 and 3 are October 7th, and January 6th '09, respectively.

I thought you guys would want to know this.

Katsumara

04-30-2008, 05:51 AM

I thought you guys would want to know this.

So how many episodes is [as] set to air before a "break"?

Sketch

04-30-2008, 07:01 AM

I thought you guys would want to know this.

Ooooo boxsets! That would explain why they aren't releasing it sooner. My friend who planned on buying the series shall be pleased. But seriously Bandai... look at Viz and FUNimation. 13 a set. Not 8-9. Eh... beats 4-5 I at least.

Katsumara

04-30-2008, 07:57 AM

Big topic is big.

Speedy Boris

04-30-2008, 08:53 AM

Y'know, I'm actually in favor of the Pizza Hut logos removed. Pizza Hut is nasty. There are much better pizza companies out there to pimp.

Beat

04-30-2008, 09:12 AM

Y'know, I'm actually in favor of the Pizza Hut logos removed. Pizza Hut is nasty. There are much better pizza companies out there to pimp.

As a New Yorker, anything that pimps a pizza chain is bad.

bigdeath

04-30-2008, 11:29 AM

As a New Yorker, anything that pimps a pizza chain is bad.

Its not just new yorkers that have plenty of better places to get pizza. I think the pizza huts ADs where just to gain popularity in Japan. Its a foreign market after all. Anyone know how well pizza hut does in Japan?

(yes, this is the most important issue that is raised after episode 1 :p )

garfield15

04-30-2008, 11:38 AM

Its not just new yorkers that have plenty of better places to get pizza. I think the pizza huts ADs where just to gain popularity in Japan. Its a foreign market after all. Anyone know how well pizza hut does in Japan?

(yes, this is the most important issue that is raised after episode 1 :p )

Without those Pizza hut logos this series is going to get extremely weird since Pizza Hut is a small part of the show plus

no one is going to get the Pizza Butt joke

kaine23

04-30-2008, 11:48 AM

Least if anything the Pizza Hut ads will be on the dvds.

dawnyoshi

04-30-2008, 12:30 PM

Okay I've read a few responses here that say don't take this action show seriously.

But really. I mean...really? I am not really crazy on the animation not because it is bad (it's better handled than a LOT of the shows out there), but because these designs are really generic. It's pretty boring. As in, ohmygod I just saw these characters like a week ago boring. Maybe I'm just not crazy about the "hey look half these guys have blue hair that's...interesting" idea.

Voice acting is pretty over the top bad in my opinion. Some don't seem to fit their characters. I'd imagine this style sounds right in Japanese but it just doesn't translate well to English (it needs to be altered in some way, otherwise you sort of lose the impact).

Series in general just feels really generic. I gave up on Eureka early because the start of the series was completely uninteresting. The same is applying here. I'll give it another 2 episodes I guess to see if it picks up.

Beat

04-30-2008, 12:32 PM

At least the first episode didn't have the guy going "THIS SUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS" over and over.

bigdeath

04-30-2008, 01:18 PM

Sketch

04-30-2008, 01:37 PM

Someone calls Code Geass designs generic? :eek: (At least no one has weird hair colors, they all have natural colors)

I get the feeling your not going to like this show since it only gets more over the top but feel free to give it a few more episodes.

I wouldn't call blue or green natural hair colors so Rivalz, table girl and Jeremiah come to mind. Or how about pink, there's a few pink haired girls in this one.

bigdeath

04-30-2008, 01:59 PM

I wouldn't call blue or green natural hair colors so Rivalz, table girl and Jeremiah come to mind. Or how about pink, there's a few pink haired girls in this one.

Oh, your right. What was I thinking. :sweat:

Christopher Soul

04-30-2008, 06:33 PM

265,000+ Streams as of today...

Bunai

05-01-2008, 01:50 AM

Unless Pizza Hut asked them not to show it, which wouldn't much sense, since they basically paid for that advetising in Japan, but maybe they would have to pay for it again and/or sponsor the show again, or whatever. Pizza Hut Japan is different from Pizza Hut USA

its the same name and company, they just have their own set of rules.
that is my view.

Sketch

05-01-2008, 06:19 AM

265,000+ Streams as of today...

Awesome

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

That's over ni*shot*

SSJPabs

05-01-2008, 11:58 AM

Agreed on all points except the Venture Brothers comparison.

Geass seems to be little more than a jingoistic plodding mess full of the melodrama and overdramatic talk Gundam Wing used to try and sound more adult than it actually was. I suppose for a show that's supposed to be on at the early hour of 1am, it's passable, but the next great real robot show it is decidedly not.

Overhype is over.

Except Gundam Wing's mech designs seemed shinier. That said, I really like that phrase "melodramatic jingoistic plodding mess" really does describe how Code Geass struck me.

Eureka 7, I mostly agree. I hated the first couple episodes for similar reasons but then randomly fell into watching it about halfway through the series and it was a much improved. It got nearly solid. But I liked the designs for Eureka 7 so it's a good example of a show I didn't like that much but the art kept me watching it. It's very hard for me to avoid negative reaction to anything Clamp's pen puts out.

Venture Brother's comment was not directed to the voices. The voices for VB are fine. It's the writing that I can't stand (and the art, but except for Courage, Rocko, Doug, Avatar, Foster's and Exo Squad I've always hated US animation).