An outlandish idea, anime 10-11PM on weeknights

[Sketch]

deadfruitvirus and I were talking recently about the status of CN and Adult Swim and the idea came up that AS should take 10-11PM (probably airing Family Guy earlier). I went further with that idea and suggested that AS should run anime in that hour.

They could try Bleach and Shin Chan or Bleach and Inuyasha for starters and that hour would either not be repeated or wouldn't repeat until 5AM so the current 11PM-2AM block would repeat without an action segment between it (because apparently the viewers don't care much for action between 11PM and 5AM).

It's also a way to get some action programing back on prime time hours.

There's no reason to do this on Friday or Saturday of course, they could probably stand to lose an hour or two on those nights but Monday - Thursday 10PM-11PM AS could work and while playing Family Guy and another comedy could work better it would be quite a nice bone to throw the avid anime viewers to get an hour of anime before the usual AS comedy hours. And by using 10-11PM it doesn't mess with the rest of the AS schedule.

And those who like Courage pre-AS... They could always move it to 9:30 or 9PM because Johnny Test certainly doesn't need 3 showings per day. Maybe they could even have Naruto pre-AS again which would also put Naruto and Bleach back to back.

But reguardless of the actual schedule... might 10-11PM anime work? You often hear complaints about anime fans that watch AS (who are in college not just highschool but that too obviously) who don't care to stay up that late to watch anime because they have morning classes, jobs, and what not. This would cator to those viewers most of all but it could also improve the casual viewership for anime on AS.

[J-man]

Has it ever occurred to you that AS doesn't want to air anime? When they made the decision to take it comletely off the weekday schedule, I'm pretty sure they were making a long time to permamanent move.

[Sketch]

Has it ever occurred to you that AS doesn't want to air anime? When they made the decision to take it comletely off the weekday schedule, I'm pretty sure they were making a long time to permamanent move.

That thought had occurred to me but the decision to make the weekday line-up all comedy sans the 5AM Inuyasha hour always seemed like more of a desperate last ditch effort to get their average back to the level it was last year than a quick and dirty removal of all anime at watchable times and in worthwhile hours.

They wouldn't still be airing anime on Saturday night if they didn't want to air it at all.

But if AS did get 10-11PM they'd probably have Family Guy at 10PM followed by a strong performing comedy or two and then another Family Guy. Because that's how they roll.

[Beat]

Has it ever occurred to you that AS doesn't want to air anime? When they made the decision to take it comletely off the weekday schedule, I'm pretty sure they were making a long time to permamanent move.

I agree. They've figured out what we have, they can't make it work because of a myraid of reasons. Notably, the person that gets the shows is a moron.

[tb4000]

The entire late evening CN schedule used to be based in showcasing anime starting with Toonami Midnight Run, but slowly turned into a showcase for comedy animation creators. It's been getting ratings, so that's what they do. I usually hit IFC or Sci-Fi for my anime as of late, even though there should be another expanded cable channel that shows it.

[Lutochris]

We're about to enter a period in which we'll have four different shows premiering new episodes each week. That's more than any other period in the history of AS, with the exception of the 13 weeks during which Paranoia Agent was new (they had a lineup of Inuyasha, Samurai Champloo, s-Cry-Ed, and PA), despite the fact that ratings are way down from what they were in that period (late 2005). I'd say they certainly want to air it, they just can't make it work. I really don't care about not being able to watch reruns during the week.

We should really consider ourselves lucky that we have a network like AS that's willing to air stuff just for the sake of its fans even though it gets bad ratings. Any other network today or in the history of TV would have taken all anime away long ago.

[MegaJ]

AS is already spreading the comedy thin since it completely took over weekdays. At least with Nick at Nite, their shows that they rerun constantly have a decent amount of episodes. Boondocks has what, 26? Birdman has only 39 (two episodes that air a night). I say get anime to at least 1am-2am.

[JTurner954]

I've been wanting the anime to air during 10-11 since DBZ uncut aired and the "Case Closed has low ratings" news was uttered. Since the preteen demographic had higher ratings for Conan, who knows how well it would have done in an earlier slot?

And if it's true that Ani Monday's ratings are much higher, then it won't surprise me. Unlike CN, Sci Fi has aired commercials for Ani Monday throughout the day so more people are going to know about it. CN should do the same thing, even going as far as getting rid of "Adult Swim" or changing the name of the block (honestly, what does the current format have to do with swimming?)

It also wouldn't hurt for the network to get some better anime. Code Geass is reaching overhype levels; that's not a good sign.

[macattack]

It also wouldn't hurt for the network to get some better anime. Code Geass is reaching overhype levels; that's not a good sign.

What's wrong with CG being hyped?

[J-man]

changing the name of (Adult Swim) (honestly, what does the current format have to do with swimming?)

I have always thought this myself, just in a different sense: Having 'Adult' in the name of a block that kids people below the age of 18 watch is a huge turnoff for wary parents and for kids who think it's something too dirty to watch.

[Master Moron]

AS is already spreading the comedy thin since it completely took over weekdays. At least with Nick at Nite, their shows that they rerun constantly have a decent amount of episodes. Boondocks has what, 26? Birdman has only 39 (two episodes that air a night). I say get anime to at least 1am-2am.

Yes, but have the low amount of episodes affected the ratings at all?

I have always thought this myself, just in a different sense: Having 'Adult' in the name of a block that kids people below the age of 18 watch is a huge turnoff for wary parents and for kids who think it's something too dirty to watch.

Adult Swim doesn't want kids to watch their block.

[J-man]

Adult Swim doesn't want kids to watch their block.

Yes, I should have been more specific; They want teens to watch their block.

(Not directed at MM, but at thread):
Sure, the name 'Adult Swim' may not stop many teens from watching, but as I mentioned earlier, there's still the parent problem.

[MegaJ]

Yes, but have the low amount of episodes affected the ratings at all?

No. At least, not yet. Family Guy is fine, that has about 100 episodes for AS to play with, but the other series can cycle so only so much before viewers change the channel to Fresh Prince or something.

[blitzkrieg]

Hasn't every all anime schedule on Saturday nights proved that putting anime on early doesn't greatly affect the ratings?

[Master Moron]

Yes, I should have been more specific; They want teens to watch their block.


No, they don't.

No. At least, not yet. Family Guy is fine, that has about 100 episodes for AS to play with, but the other series can cycle so only so much before viewers change the channel to Fresh Prince or something.

It's a theory, but that's all it is. People may actually like Boondocks enough to watch the same 20 something episodes over and over again. It's hard to say at this point.

[Sketch]

Hasn't every all anime schedule on Saturday nights proved that putting anime on early doesn't greatly affect the ratings?

Saturday is a bad night for 18+ no matter how you slice it. 10-11PM on Monday - Thursday would do much better even for anime. All that needs to be said is CN's total viewer average saw a drop on weeknights when Naruto left 10:30PM. I'd wager a lot of those viewers were 18+. Bleach could do as well or better with 18+ in that slot.

[KZK]

It could work. They'll never do it, but..

[as] should be trying to turn their 12-18 viewers into [as] cultists. That means creating synergy between CN before [as] and [as]. They should air shows that can draw in both 12-18 and 18-24 viewers. Shows like InuYasha. Probably Bleach. Shows that seem to do better ratings wise, also happen to do better among females. Basicly what they need are shows that Attract the female viewers, keep the teen viewers watching, and bridge the Action-To-Comedy gap. They could try shows like Fushigi Yugi (Very InuYasha Like), Magic Knight Rayearth, The Slayers, Moon Phase, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, or Shakugan no Shana. A lot of good choices with the right action to comedy ratio.

Hasn't every all anime schedule on Saturday nights proved that putting anime on early doesn't greatly affect the ratings?

No. It's only proved that putting Anime on earlier on Saturday, doesn't improve the ratings much. And that's not even always been the case. A few years ago InuYasha had several premiers in a row get 500,000+ in the First slot (remember [as] ran several cards that said hell froze over). Of course, InuYasha Saturday premiers ended/moved right after that, so nobody remembers or mentions it.

[JTurner954]

What's wrong with CG being hyped?

Hype is fine; overhype is deadly. The internet has a habit of overhyping bad anime which starts out good and travels downhill soon after (the latest one being Blood+).

[macattack]

I've heard that CG doesn't go downhill save for an iffy few episodes (15-20 get criticized the most).

[laactor101]

deadfruitvirus and I were talking recently about the status of CN and Adult Swim and the idea came up that AS should take 10-11PM (probably airing Family Guy earlier). I went further with that idea and suggested that AS should run anime in that hour.

They could try Bleach and Shin Chan or Bleach and Inuyasha for starters and that hour would either not be repeated or wouldn't repeat until 5AM so the current 11PM-2AM block would repeat without an action segment between it (because apparently the viewers don't care much for action between 11PM and 5AM).

It's also a way to get some action programing back on prime time hours.

There's no reason to do this on Friday or Saturday of course, they could probably stand to lose an hour or two on those nights but Monday - Thursday 10PM-11PM AS could work and while playing Family Guy and another comedy could work better it would be quite a nice bone to throw the avid anime viewers to get an hour of anime before the usual AS comedy hours. And by using 10-11PM it doesn't mess with the rest of the AS schedule.

And those who like Courage pre-AS... They could always move it to 9:30 or 9PM because Johnny Test certainly doesn't need 3 showings per day. Maybe they could even have Naruto pre-AS again which would also put Naruto and Bleach back to back.

But reguardless of the actual schedule... might 10-11PM anime work? You often hear complaints about anime fans that watch AS (who are in college not just highschool but that too obviously) who don't care to stay up that late to watch anime because they have morning classes, jobs, and what not. This would cator to those viewers most of all but it could also improve the casual viewership for anime on AS.

Yo,Sketch This is an great idea to have anime at 10 and being an lead in to Family Guy. You should sent this to AS on the forums.

[Timmay]

Is there a show out there that appeals to adults who weren't already watching anime? Or that weren't watching anime as kids? I don't think there is. AS has already tried to get series that have large fandoms, only to have the fans ignore it because they've already watched it in japanese.