C&C - Death Note "Silence" [4/12]

[livingfruitvirus]

All shows are up early today.

I would recommend one watch this episode via the Adult Swim Video normal interface. As many know AS likes to cut the show into clips, and if you click on the Death Note link on AS.com, it displays some of the clips next to the episode. One of them is a big big spoiler. It's all automated so I doubt anyone was realizing this when they uploaded the episode clips. So unless you don't want your eye to wander and catch it, go here and click the episode:

http://www.adultswim.com/video/index.html

[XOMiss_Samantha]

And away we go~ I'm a bit early but since the episode is allready up I'm not going to spoiler tag anything.
ahem. apparently never mind.... *walks off grumbling*

R.I.P. L <3 [and Watari] This was all very sad. VERY SAD. I hated that moment for weeks after I first saw it. I still loathe Light for it because he pretty much forced Rem. He knew her weakness.


I think this episode is the most visually stunning, especially during the beginning with the crying child and little L holding Watari's hand in the snow. Next there is Misa singing black dress]that disturbing song while killing people as Kira. There's L standing out in the rain. After, the rubbing Lights feet which I saw as 'washing'. Very bible-esque feeling in that scene. I felt somebody threw a religion book at me.
Also, lots of stain glass windows.

I think it was made it clear what might happen. This whole episode has alot of symbolism to it. Foreshadowing with the bells. "It'll be lonely wont it" Sometimes I wonder if L knew what was going to happen to him, but could do nothing of it.
There are lots of specific sounds too. Everything is nicely focused.

People are either going to love this move or completely hate the series for it


"Careful what you do, cuz' God is watching your every move
hold my hand in the dark street
for if you do I know that I'll be safe
even if i'm far away and alone
I can be sure that you'll find me there
This I know you draw me close for awhile,
so quiet
you tell me everything
If I forget what you say, then you go to me and
tell me again
yes you tell me once again-
but what happens when I know it all,
then when should I do after that
what then~"

[Mugen]

Since this is a very important episode, I want people who watched this on AS Video to put their responses in spoiler tags. I don't want the people who are watching it on television only to be spoiled about what happened. Once the episode airs on television, you don't need to put it in spoiler tags anymore.

[Space Chief]

So Ladies' Night has finally arrived?

[Lightning Tiger]

"tell me Light, from the moment you were born, have you ever told the truth in your entire life?"

I loved that line, the rain scene was awesome.


I realy dont remember that foot washing scene from the manga, its a completely pointless adition and makes L look like a punk (the scene is realy stupid too)"

[Rolling Cloud]

So, L is dead? WOW, just plain WOW! I didn't expect Watari and Rem to go too. That was a suprise to me. D:

Strange how one episode ago I was praising Light and now I may revoke that. >< Now, my only question is...where can the series go from here?

[FinnMacCool]

Without a doubt the most controversial episode of the series since the introduction of Misa.

The whole rain scene was awesome. Nuff said.

[Ducard]

http://hometown.aol.com/CMor923905/vadernooo.jpg


I already knew L's fate, but to actually see it happen.. ouch. I'm going to miss L quite a lot; specifically, I'm really going to miss Alessandro Juliani's excellent performance as L. Also of interest in this episode were the deaths of Watari and Rem, Death Note: The Musical, and three points for the Jesus reference. I truly can't wait for Kira to get his comeuppance now.



Oh yes, and bring on the live action movies, because I can't wait to see the alternate ending.

[danreyes1]

WHAT. THE. FREAKING. HELL? The BEST anime character to ever exist is dead! Now a pretentious brat with a literal God complex and an almighty magickal notebook is free to run rampant. AND IT'S STILL NOT THE END. What in the world can happen next?

Oh, and fangirl wet dream ftw?

Edit: Why didn't Rem just kill Light? Misa lives, she lives. No loopholes.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Edit: Why didn't Rem just kill Light? Misa lives, she lives. No loopholes.

Misa would most likely hate her for it. She loves Light more than she loves Rem, so Rem must respect that.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Had Rem killed Light nobody smart enough to keep Misa out of trouble would have been left on Misa's side, not to mention she's commit suicide.

[v1cious]

at last we reach the shark moment. Adult Swim seriously needs to fix their channel guide. it gives away the ending before you even watch it.

[Martianinvader]

http://hometown.aol.com/CMor923905/vadernooo.jpg





I already knew L's fate, but to actually see it happen.. ouch. I'm going to miss L quite a lot; specifically, I'm really going to miss Alessandro Juliani's excellent performance as L. Also of interest in this episode were the deaths of Watari and Rem, Death Note: The Musical, and three points for the Jesus reference. I truly can't wait for Kira to get his comeuppance now.



Oh yes, and bring on the live action movies, because I can't wait to see the alternate ending.


I concur with the picture. I'm glad I was never spoiled on this, but still.....ugh.

Come on now, are there REALLY ten episodes left? How's he going to find opposition as tough as L? Nobody can bring this guy to justice now!

And just because we're all talking in spoiler tags doesn't mean you can tell me if anyone DOES do that.

[garfield15]

Sad. Just plain sad how this whole situation came about. Farewell L, we shall miss you

Also if you were wondering how they were going to get 10 more episodes out of this. As someone posted in the previous episode forum, "Who said the alphabet stopped at L?"

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Not really a spoiler, but:

It's odd, volumes 1-7 are spread across 27-ish episodes and yet volumes 8-12 are super-condensed into just ten episodes (with lots cut out).

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Okay, I get the main point of this episode, but it was filled some pretty trippy weirdness. The opening sequence of the kids playing around (perhaps a symbol of L's childhood), Misa's song and attire when going out and killing criminals (kind of brings a whole new feel to the "creepy little girl singing equals= badness" going around) and then a scene of L... wiping Light's foot (uh, guess they needed one really big Yaoi moment before it happened). Really Death Note is full of weird stuff but here it was at it's trippiest. More importantly though Light was at his eviliest: In his fiendish most succesful plan yet he uses Misa to become Kira again to get L to try and investigate her and test out the rules of the notebook, causing Rem to be forced to have to kill Watari and L to save Misa and ending up offing herself. (Really Rem, that's what happens when you devote yourself to a clingy fangirl: Suicidal death when forced to help them out of they're own stupidity following some other guy). So now with the Shinigami out to kill him, the only mind smart enough silenced to stop him and he being cleared of any conviction of being Kira, Light is defintley in the winnners circle. Now he can go and carry out the investigation to catch "Kira" however he probably wants and has more then enough notebooks falling around to do his deeds. Yeah defintley score one for Light. The creepiness kind of made me take off for this but still a great episode. Now the only question is how the rest of the show will go. I have a feeling on part of it but that's all I'm going to say.

[Strollymonster]

The series really should have wrapped up quickly after this episode, instead of painfully drawing it out with new characters.

The ones that replace L have nowhere near his charm or interesting-ness.

That said,

L was pretty freaking awesome, and he'll be missed. This event will make it oh so much sweeter if/when Light gets his comeuppance.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

and then a scene of L... wiping Light's foot (uh, guess they needed one really big Yaoi moment before it happened). Really Death Note is full of weird stuff but here it was at it's trippiest.

I think the purpose of that was more to show a bible reference-
to Jesus at the last supper rather than a yaoi 'LULZHESTOUCHINHISFEET' moment.

"Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end... He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded."

At the very least, that was the first thing that came to mind. Especially since L was going to die.

[ppccd]

Damn it...

[SemiJuggalo]

I don't usually comment in the Death Note episode discussions, but this episode is a special one.

When I watched the Japanese version, L's death came as a huge shocker. Never before, did I want Light to get what was coming to him! As for the foot-washing scene, it did come off as being a little bit fanservicey, but my roommate's girlfriend informed me about the scene being intentionally synonymous with the Bible's mentioning of Jesus washing the feet of his disciples. It makes sense, because if L was playing the role of Jesus, Light would definitely be Judas.

Also, it's mind-boggling to think that Light had all of this planned out in advance! He also has the most evil smirk for an anime character, surpassing Majin Vegeta's "I-just-blew-up-a-bunch-of-innocent-people" smirk!

[Dudley]

Due to my impatience, I actually watched this episode and the rest of the series over last weekend. So I know how everything's going to go down.

But one thing I was shocked about is how Light was playing with Rem the whole time.
He's a clever kid.

[NelStone]

Well, that sucked to watch. My favorite character, gone! And Light's acting at the end just made me angrier. Can't wait to see him get what's coming.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Guh, boy did I dislike how much this deviated from the comic (and will come to do so in the final episodes).

[FinnMacCool]

To those wondering what's gonna happen in the next ten episodes, M comes after L, and who works for M?

That's right: Light vs. James Bond

[ppccd]

The foot washing scene is definitely a biblical reference...

An extremely homoerotic, fanservicey biblical reference.

[Ducard]

Guh, boy did I dislike how much this deviated from the comic...
Do tell?


The series really should have wrapped up quickly after this episode, instead of painfully drawing it out with new characters.


Apparently the compilation movie ends at this point. By the way, do we know if Viz has the rights to that?


That's right: Light vs. James Bond
"The name's Bond. James Bo... Oh fiddlesticks."

An extremely homoerotic, fanservicey biblical reference.
I don't think it was meant to be taken that way, though it did last a little long.

WHAT. THE. FREAKING. HELL? The BEST anime character to ever exist is dead!
Ah, L. He's such a memorable character. Recently for a directing class I had everyone listen to a TV message from "L" while snacking on candy, good times.

It makes sense, because if L was playing the role of Jesus, Light would definitely be Judas.
Yep, seems fitting enough.

The tone of last couple of episodes is also coincidentally reminiscient of Revenge of the Sith: at first the good guys think they've won the war, then Mr. Messiah turns traitor to establish his new world order.

[FinnMacCool]

"The name's Bond. James Bo... Oh fiddlesticks."

LOL!!! :anime:

[Beefy]

If L really still suspected Misa of being Kira, he should have had Wedy spy on her.

[silverfox1027]

If L really still suspected Misa of being Kira, he should have had Wedy spy on her.

Rem probably would've noticed, and if Wedy's inevitable death in that situation increased L's suspicion, then we would just have the same result that we have now.

[Charlie]

I always expected L to die through a planned, although failed; attempt that would reveal Light as Kira while making the cronies on the task force loose their trust in L (but that would have been to predictable). Or at least something other than what appeared to me (key word, appeared) to be L giving up and surrendering. The way he acted in the rainstorm made me think that he just couldn't figure out where to go from there. Kinda lost a couple points from me on that.

I was also kind of hoping his name would have been revealed, but I guess google was sufficient enough.

Still though, that was great.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Do tell?


Apparently the compilation movie ends at this point. By the way, do we know if Viz has the rights to that?



"The name's Bond. James Bo... Oh fiddlesticks."


I don't think it was meant to be taken that way, though it did last a little long.


Ah, L. He's such a memorable character. Recently for a directing class I had everyone listen to a TV message from "L" while snacking on candy, good times.


Yep, seems fitting enough.

The tone of last couple of episodes is also coincidentally reminiscient of Revenge of the Sith: at first the good guys think they've won the war, then Mr. Messiah turns traitor to establish his new world order.

It's easier if you just read volumes 7-12, really.

[Ishtar]

Watched the episode and wow.....I haven't seen an episode this sad since Raye Penber's fiance died. I think what made this episode even more depressing was the fact that throughout the episode, L seemed to know deep down that he would be gone soon, especially how he talked about hearing bells ringing constantly and how he said "we'll be parting soon, Light." I thought it was really nice how they actually dubbed Misa's song, and it was done pretty well. Loved the allusion to Jesus' feet cleaning when L washed Light's feet. The actual death of L, Watari and REM was pretty suspensul, yet also very sad. Light is such a bastard, and part of me just hates him in this episode. He toyed with REM's feelings for Misa in order to kill L, and that grin on his face and look in his eyes when L died was just creepy. Light continues to act dramatical by pretending to actually be sad over L's death and wanting to find Kira.

[Draft]

[as] video is being lame

1st try worked fine, but i could only watch 2 mins
2nd try didn't work
3rd try worked for about a min or 2, and then changed to Squidbillies..

Post my comments later

Edit: Got it to Work

-The piano stuff is really bothering me for some reason
-Missing the lack of action in this episode
-L drying off Light was not awkward at all
-Horray the episode is picking up!
-Watari's dead?
-Yay for violence
-Oh **** did she do what I think she just did?
-Yes she did
-So I guess the show's done? They're's still 4 minutes
-So Rem did what Light wanted her to..
-Man, I wanted some action, but this was done way too fast
-Light wins(?)

[kewlmyc]

Wow, this is so sad. I think I'm going to cry.:crying:

[NAGATO]

Well I Geuss Its Finally Here.......ts....ts....ts Yes I Wonder How They Are Gonna Sound Dub

[Rocketboy]

I can finally post this now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/rocketboy/lpwn.gif

[Kiryu]

Wow. Just Wow. Light has always been a jerk but this really puts him at the 'totally irredeemable ****** bastard' level. Now its just Light, Sephiroth and Mace Windu up there above all the other villains as characters that I'll hate for all time. :( (and yes Mace is a villain, damn you for killing Jango!)

This whole episode was so depressing, I didn't think it would really bother me if L died, but now that he's gone it seemed alot sadder than I imagined it would... I'm going to miss him, especially because he seemed to know it was coming, and was resigned to it, that made it seem so much more tragic.

I certainly wasn't expecting this only 2/3 through the series, Death Note never ceases to surprise me.

RIP L, way to fight the good fight until the end

[PickHut]

I think I finally understand what kids felt when Optimus Prime lost and died....

Yeesh, not only did this EVIL GENIUS manage to have L killed, but Rem and Watari was taken out in the process. And the way Light reacted to L dying was just so sinister, grinning like he just opened up the best evil Christmas present ever, and then being overdramatic afterwards. Ugh, I've always hated him, but it's now in a whole new level of hate after having my favorite character killed off. And he's just a fictional character... You know you've created a good villain when you actually just hate his guts.

[PencilTest]

For those of you that are curious but scared that you might come across spoilers while searching and ruin future episodes of the show:

L's real name is Lawliet. Pronounced Low-Light.

[Rocketboy]

No, Lawliet is his last name. His real name is,

L

[RAINMAN]

Unreal. Whit L gone I don`t see how anyone can stop light now? If L knew he was gonna die then he must of had some sort of back up plain somewhere?
Whit rem gone don`t this mean misa is next?

[NahMan85]

No, Lawliet is his last name. His real name is,

LI actually thought that was his real name from the begining but never really knew if it was. If that's his real name then it makes sense if you think about.

[Megaman X]

What a surprising episode o_o I was actually expecting L to leave the story for now or something(maybe go back to where he came from for a while? Which would ruin Light's plan of using Misa to kill L). But man I got it 100% wrong.. o_o Light actually killed L AND Watari!

Actually to tell you the truth I dont think L actually did die, I think L faked his death somehow and planed this to happen to him. I mean L dieing just like that is..odd..

Oh and I think Light is a complete ***** for forcing Rem to kill himself like that. I swear I am hating evil Light now...

But if L is actually 100% dead then

R.I.P L one of the greatest anime characters ever.

[Ahiru-kun]

I'm going to miss L, but I feel that this was the right time to kill him off. It leaves a potential new major threat for Light.

Has anyone else noticed that Light has gotten a little buff? I guess the artist did that to better contrast him with L.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Did L really know that he was going to die cuz I got that feeling after watching this eppy tonight?

[PencilTest]

No, Lawliet is his last name. His real name is,

L

Lol. Remember this is from Japan, where they list last names then first names.

The pic showed 'L Lawliet' which means his real name is 'Lawliet L'. Just like how they say 'Yagami Light' is actually 'Light Yagami' to us.

[Sketch]

This show is brilliant.

Light is quite the evil genius.

[dawnyoshi]

Just wanted to gush about how ****ing gorgeous the scene is with L's death. The way this was done in the anime is simply superb. L, his eye's showing a bright light of realization in the close-up, looking up to a Light that stares down at him with the glowing red evil eyes that represents him as Kira. The sheer dominance, the utter helplessness of L, is so well captured by the shot of Light from a low perspective shot upward.

Simply incredible. I really do admire Death Note for its deep and addictive storyline, and even moreso for how this show was handled cinematically, especially for a cartoon.

[Pepperidge]

Lol. Remember this is from Japan, where they list last names then first names.

The pic showed 'L Lawliet' which means his real name is 'Lawliet L'. Just like how they say 'Yagami Light' is actually 'Light Yagami' to us.

Actually, in Japanese foreign names aren't inverted. If a person has an English name, it would still remain "given name - sur name".

One thing I really like about the way the big scene was handled in this episode was how it contained absolutely no dialogue. The original manga version was cluttered with big long exposition. In the animated version, the visuals speak for themselves.

[SirLemming]

What was great about this episode was that even with all the creepy foreshadowing, I was STILL totally shocked when L died.

[warnerbroman]

I knew it! but what now is it over?

I just want to kick light in the balls

[Sakijima]

I was seriously debating about whether or not to watch this episode. I knew what was coming, but at one point I said to myself, "It's just going to be depressing..."

I did decide to watch it though, and I'm glad.

It wasn't a bad death for L. It really wasn't. I've seen anime characters killed off very, very cheaply (to the point where I was enraged about how stupid their deaths were), and I'm glad that didn't happen to L.

The strange thing is, (IMHO) the saddest part of the episode wasn't really his death. It was everything that lead up to it: him standing in the rain and acting all coy with Light, hearing the bells, apologizing for freaking everything, (that broke my heart)his kindness to Light...

Weird thing is, I don't hate Light for this. I'm by no means happy with him, but there have been times where I was furious with L, too, so it's nothing new.

I thought this episode would make me cry. But it didn't. I'm just really depressed. :(

RIP L. We love you.

[Darklordavaitor]

This... Was art. Everything to the opening shot of little L crying to Misa's solo act to the fact that L knew that he was going to die... Amazing. Tears didn't fall from my eyes when L died, but... Wow.

I can't wait to see what Light has in store for us next.

[Kitschensyngk]

[quoted by Kitschensyngk 4/12/2008 12am CDT during the forum's downtime]

Last time: The Light's come back on in the Kira business.

This one looks to be a total mindscrew.

L has BACKSTORY?!

"All I can give you is name, rank and serial number."

"NOPESORRYNEVERSEENTHATSHINIGAMIBEFOREINMYLIFE."

Misa carries on the "family business".

A spoonful of whimsical piano tunes helps the medicine go down.

Death Note, Death Note, who's got the Death Note?

L sure loves his Koala Panda Yummies.

Light you magnificent bastard.

Rem and Misa sitting in a tree...

Some people choose to stand in the rain without an umbrella. That is what it means to be free.

KONNNNNNNNNNNNG!

Ewwww! Don't lick his feet!

Everything's slow and silent. Something big's going to happen.

L as Kira? That's a twist.

Whoa! Alfred's dea--

HOE. LEE. FREE. KING. CRAP.

OPEN SEASON ON TASK FORCE MEMBERS!

So...how long will Misa live now?

[Rolling Cloud]

Actually to tell you the truth I dont think L actually did die, I think L faked his death somehow and planed this to happen to him. I mean L dieing just like that is..odd..

L
IS
DEAD!

This is Death Note, not One Piece. :sweat:

[jbanks97]

So I finally give this show a shot......

First character i like is killed off in the first episode I watch.

I am enjoying the protagonist of this series being a bit of a bastard though

(Now I guess I have to catch the reruns)

[AlphaPrime]

It wasn't a bad death for L. It really wasn't. I've seen anime characters killed off very, very cheaply (to the point where I was enraged about how stupid their deaths were), and I'm glad that didn't happen to L.

The strange thing is, (IMHO) the saddest part of the episode wasn't really his death. It was everything that lead up to it: him standing in the rain and acting all coy with Light, hearing the bells, apologizing for freaking everything, (that broke my heart)his kindness to Light...

Weird thing is, I don't hate Light for this. I'm by no means happy with him, but there have been times where I was furious with L, too, so it's nothing new.

Agreed, my thoughts exactly, L knowing his death was coming was pretty much the saddest part about all of this, sad really, wait til the final ep that he's in before i really get to like him oh well.

[Dr. Anime]

Oh so that is what the foot washing scene was suppose to represent. Geez I feel dirty for thinking otherwise. Still hasn't stopped it from inspiring Light and L Yaoi pairings.

Other then that I got most of the other references/use of foreshadowing. Then again I already knew about L's fate from reading the manga.

For me I don't really care for the Anime I just like the manga better but this episode was really well done. The music, the imagery, the foreshadowing, the dub itself, everything just came together perfectly.

[laactor101]

Boy this episode really touched me in someways that's all I'm saying for now...

[Kiryu]

Just watched it again online...god that part after L dries off Light and then looks up at him, when he looks so utterly depressed and says with such sorrow in his voice: "It'll be lonely won't it...you and I will be parting ways soon..." that was about the saddest damn thing I've ever seen in an anime.:crying:

I didn't catch what he said there when I first watched it on tv, that was just heartbreaking.

[Megaman X]

L
IS
DEAD!

This is Death Note, not One Piece. :sweat:

Yeah but this is also Death note the show with freaky messed up children using notebooks that have the power to kill others and the notebooks come with a shinigami.

^ If thats possible then I am sure its possible for L to fake his death some how >_> but maybe I just do not want to believe that my favorite character is dead? Well even if L is "dead" he sure did plan this to happen if you checked closely about what he was saying.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Yeah but this is also Death note the show with freaky messed up children using notebooks that have the power to kill others and the notebooks come with a shinigami.

^ If thats possible then I am sure its possible for L to fake his death some how >_> but maybe I just do not want to believe that my favorite character is dead? Well even if L is "dead" he sure did plan this to happen if you checked closely about what he was saying.

Right before L died, there was a scene of Rem writing down his name in the note book very quickly on screen.
I don't think he could fake his death even if he wanted to. Rem killed him. You can't escape the notebooks wrath.

[Ishtar]

Yeah but this is also Death note the show with freaky messed up children using notebooks that have the power to kill others and the notebooks come with a shinigami.

^ If thats possible then I am sure its possible for L to fake his death some how >_> but maybe I just do not want to believe that my favorite character is dead? Well even if L is "dead" he sure did plan this to happen if you checked closely about what he was saying.
Sadly, he is dead for good.

[NAGATO]

honestly i like fell of the radar watching death note dub but wow this ep was even better in the dub than the sub,the emotions were raw and powerfull and misa's song was alright.cant wait till the ts then its gonna get even better and im talking rockets,america crazy

[Jacob T. Paschal]

I have got to say I prefer the Manga over this little...glorification. In the comic L never saw it coming, nor was it so drawn out or made to look 'deep'. Rem realizes what must be done, kills Watari, then L is in mid sentence when out of nowhere he topples over, and without hesitation Light gives L the biggest [explict deleted] look of all time. Quicky and dirty.

[Beat]

L is dead! Murder! Moltar, serve the first course!

Aye aye captain, coleslaw, coming up!

The only thing we can do now is eat, and wonder what, if anyone, can fill in for L.

Oh, and who's gonna finish his cake?

[garfield15]

L is dead! Murder! Moltar, serve the first course!

Aye aye captain, coleslaw, coming up!

The only thing we can do now is eat, and wonder what, if anyone, can fill in for L.

Oh, and who's gonna finish his cake?

Think of an L version of Toshiro Hitsugaya from Bleach and that's who's coming next

[Batmex]

Unreal. Whit L gone I don`t see how anyone can stop light now?

MATSUDA!

:D

[danreyes1]

Anyone else feel like they just wasted most of their series? Not wasted as in a waste of time. More like they basically just hit the reset button here. We're back to square one, with Light being entirely unopposed. All the work that L did is erased, and the man himself being mercilessly killed. Obviously they're going to find some new adversary, but s/he can't exactly pick up where L left off. He'll have to start anew. So, unless the series is about the triumph of evil, a whole lot of nothing has been accomplished.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure the rest of the task force is as good as dead, except would Light kill his father to keep himself safe? And will he go ahead and kill Misa, or will her severely shortened lifespan get to her first? (Don't answer, I want to find out by myself)

[Menos Grande]

I still don't understand why Rem HAD to write down L's name. All they had to do was set up another meeting between Misa and L...

I liked the foot washing scene. I caught the biblical reference right away. Very sad.

I already read the manga. I'm curious how they'll fit 5 volumes of material into 10 episodes.

[quoted by Kitschensyngk 4/12/2008 12am CDT during the forum's downtime]

1. L sure loves his Koala Panda Yummies.


2. So...how long will Misa live now?

1. I need to pick some up at the Asian supermarket tomorrow

2. Good question. We know that the Shinigami's remaining life span is added to Misa's. Another Shinigami did the same early in the series. Even though she did the Shinigami eye deal twice it should have a negative effect she'll probably have a normal human life span.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Anyone else feel like they just wasted most of their series? Not wasted as in a waste of time. More like they basically just hit the reset button here. We're back to square one, with Light being entirely unopposed. All the work that L did is erased, and the man himself being mercilessly killed. Obviously they're going to find some new adversary, but s/he can't exactly pick up where L left off. He'll have to start anew. So, unless the series is about the triumph of evil, a whole lot of nothing has been accomplished.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure the rest of the task force is as good as dead, except would Light kill his father to keep himself safe? And will he go ahead and kill Misa, or will her severely shortened lifespan get to her first? (Don't answer, I want to find out by myself)

Either wait for the end of the series in ten or so weeks or read the comic (I reccomend the latter, personally). :)

[k-day42]

Wow...just wow.

Though knowing that L was gonna die, it didn't make it any easier watching it happening one bit. His facial expression towards Light in his last moments was....surreal. It reminded me of FMA's Hughes final moments a little bit. They were both shocking, surreal, and after it happened, i'm completely in denial for the longest time that it even happened.

Now, after seeing this in the anime version, i'm now starting to get curious as to how the manga version plays out. I think i'll be going manga shopping in a matter of days.

[Megaman X]

MATSUDA!

:D

Yep because we all no Matsuda has the brains and skill to stop Light and his evil plan of doom! And heck Matsuda has his own color yellow! So yellow vs red!!! >_>..

[Junko Black]

I havent' been this upset over the death of a fictional character since Rorsharch died in Watchmen. T_T Oh, about the foot thing...is it me or did that thing come totally out of left field? I almost felt like the show's producers were trying to please the fans because they knew what was going to happen next.

Producers: Sorry, L's going to die.
Fangirls: >_<
Producers: But we'll have some softcore yaoi before that happens.
Fangirls: ^_^

It kind of threw me off for a minute. For a second there, I thought I was watching Loveless or Yami no Matsuei. o_O;;

[XOMiss_Samantha]

T_T Oh, about the foot thing...is it me or did that thing come totally out of left field? I almost felt like the show's producers were trying to please the fans because they knew what was going to happen next.

Producers: Sorry, L's going to die.
Fangirls: >_<
Producers: But we'll have some softcore yaoi before that happens.
Fangirls: ^_^

It kind of threw me off for a minute. For a second there, I thought I was watching Loveless or Yami no Matsuei. o_O;;

I love both Lovelsss and Yami no Matsuei. XD
That scene was more shounen ai if anything. Softcore yaoi would make your mind implode. *getting technical*

Still I think the 'we're hand cuffed together for awhile' part attracted more squealing girls than the feet washing. Even as a yaoi fan, the Bible was the first thing that came to mind.
you peerrrvvvv~

[Batmex]

Yep because we all no Matsuda has the brains and skill to stop Light and his evil plan of doom! And heck Matsuda has his own color yellow! So yellow vs red!!! >_>..

Actualy because he embodies what Capn Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean said in movie 1:

"Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly stupid."

:evil:

[Samurai]

What the hell was up with Misa singing? That was the one of the most random moments I've seen in an anime...

[Mugen]

I appreciate the people who watched this on AS Video and put their responses in spoiler tags. Thanks for not spoiling an important episode for the people who watched it on television.

Anyway, please keep major spoilers of the the talkback threads. Let's be considerate for those who are watching the show for the first time.

[animePWNS]

I'm among those who read through the whole manga first, so I knew L was going to die, but I had no idea the anime would portray it this amazingly. Pretty the whole episode reeked of creepiness and incoming doom when in the manga it just came out of left field.

At first I thought the footwashing scene was a little too yaoi, but then I saw the bright window and realized it was a Bible reference (stupid me:o).

Misa singing that song also surprised me. I don't think I remember that from the manga. And with the next several episodes kind of different from the original, I wonder if the anime's gonna break the fourth wall at some point (by Ryuk perhaps)? That would be pretty cool.

So exactly how many episodes are left now, 12 out of the full 37? I think I'm gonna be away when the finale airs. Of course I can record it, but it just won't be the same, having to wait a week to watch it.

And on a slightly unrelated note, we're getting yet another mega-spoiler next week, on Bleach.

[Master Moron]

Oh and I think Light is a complete ***** for forcing Rem to kill himself like that. I swear I am hating evil Light now...


Rem was a girl.

Anyway, did anyone else notice that L smiled right before he died. I think it was because he saw Light's evil grin. He knew at that moment that he had been right about Light being Kira. L was rather depressed at the idea that he might have been wrong about Light being Kira, so he was happy that he was vindicated at the end.

By the way, why did Rem kill Watori? Was he really that much of a threat to Misa?

[Lutochris]

Will we ever learn what the significance of the beginning part of the episode was (young L) and his thing about the "bells"? If it's a spoiler please disregard.

I appreciate the people who watched this on AS Video and put their responses in spoiler tags. Thanks for not spoiling an important episode for the people who watched it on television.

I'm sorry, but please don't make people do that again. With all these spoiler tags all over the place, I don't know which ones I can click on (normal comments that were put in tags because you said to) and which ones I shouldn't click on (actual spoilers for future eps). There's no need for it, no one is going to come into this thread before seeing the episode anyway. Or at least, they should come in here assuming that there will be spoilers for the episode being discussed. That's just common sense. If you think the episode needs extra warning, mention it in the first post or thread title.

Anyone else feel like they just wasted most of their series? Not wasted as in a waste of time. More like they basically just hit the reset button here. We're back to square one, with Light being entirely unopposed. All the work that L did is erased, and the man himself being mercilessly killed. Obviously they're going to find some new adversary, but s/he can't exactly pick up where L left off. He'll have to start anew. So, unless the series is about the triumph of evil, a whole lot of nothing has been accomplished.

Why not wait to see what happens next before determining that?

[Kiryu]

By the way, why did Rem kill Watori? Was he really that much of a threat to Misa?

I think because L had just told him to make the arrangements to have the death note sent away which would have started the process of Misa and Light being found out. He does seem to run pretty much everything through Watari, he thinks it up and Watari executes the orders.

I still wish Rem would have just offed Light and told Misa she didnt do it. :evil:

[warnerbroman]

Rem was a girl.


By the way, why did Rem kill Watori? Was he really that much of a threat to Misa?my question is how? if she touched him like grim reapers why not ryuzaki? or if she wrote him down first should she not have "died"?

[Beefy]

I still don't understand why Rem HAD to write down L's name. All they had to do was set up another meeting between Misa and L...

The manga had a scene the anime left out: L still had the coded note Misa sent to Sakura TV when she was trying to find Kira.
One of the entries on the note was "We exchanged notebooks in Aoyama"
Now that L knows the Death Note is the murder weapon, he was able to figure out that was an invitation to get the two Kiras to meet. Since Light volunteered to go to Aoyama that day, L's suspicion of Light and Misa has been renewed. There's no way L would let Misa anywhere near him now.


Time to play the blame game.

Rem: If you didn't tell Misa how to kill a shinigami, you might still be alive.
What is it with shinigami falling for Misa anyway?

Misa: If you remembered Ryuzaki's real name, you could have killed him yourself.

[animefeind]

I never post but that was too intense. Best anime ever.

[Brion Foulke]

By the way, why did Rem kill Watori? Was he really that much of a threat to Misa?

Rem wanted to get rid of anyone who was any threat to Misa. She'd only have one chance to write down names, after all.

I still don't understand why Rem HAD to write down L's name. All they had to do was set up another meeting between Misa and L...

L still suspects Misa, even if the rest of the task force doesn't, so he would think up some excuse not to meet with her, or to not allow her access to the task force HQ. That's not to say it's impossible, and in the manga Light does imply that he has a backup plan in case Rem doesn't take the initiative and kill Ryuzaki.

Why didn't Rem just kill Light? Misa lives, she lives. No loopholes.

Rem's reasoning in the manga is basically that Light has become a person for which Misa can no longer live without. Not only for Misa's happiness, but also because he is the only one who can protect her from being caught. And it's not like Rem can just confess Light's plan to Ryuzaki, because Misa isn't innocent either. So the only way for Rem to protect Misa is to kill Ryuzaki and Watari, but let Light live.

That's why Light did all that fancy notebook switching... so that Misa would do the eye deal, and so that Rem would be put into this position of having to kill Ryuzaki.

[Dark Moridin]

first off, last weeks preview is the first one in a long time that I should NOT have watched. that being said, even suspecting that L was going to die didn't prepare me for this eppy. Now, I haven't read the manga or anything, but it seemed that not only did L know he was going to die, but he was lost. not that he lost (well, he did, but that's not it), it was more like confusion. Like his intellect failed him and logic just didn't make sense anymore. to me he seemed to be totally out of character, like someone who just found out someone died (or that they were going to).

Those scenes where L and Light were together had double meaning in my eyes. yes the foot washing scene was biblical, but it also seemed like a sign of L knowing he lost to Light.

**on a side note, I am glad I didn't have to hand out any fangirls. even though it was animated a bit to fanservice-y, it is nice to see the comparison wasn't over everyone's head.

anyway, I am saddend that L is gone, as he quickly became my favorite as soon as he was introduced. granted it helps to have a villian as good as Light, but it seemed that L had Light beat at every turn, until this grand scheme of Light's.

R.I.P. L, you will be missed, and unlikely to be replaced.


p.s. I am one of those who apprecieates everyone using the spoiler boxes. I feel it is better to be safe than sorry. it is so hard to not be spolied on stories these days that when I find one, I am intent on trying to see it till the end and be shocked with each and every surprise. not all stories deserve this, so when you find a good one like Deathnote, it is worth preserving the mystery.

that is all.

[livingfruitvirus]

That's why Light did all that fancy notebook switching... so that Misa would do the eye deal, and so that Rem would be put into this position of having to kill Ryuzaki.

I don't think he expected her to do the eye deal. His initial plan was to have Misa remember L's name and write it down in the book, but even without the eyes, Light could've set up Misa to kill again simply by having her watch the news like Light did.

[livingfruitvirus]

http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c392193796c3011939a6b5c60103

Light's foot rub has 12,001 hits.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c392193796c3011939a6b5c60103

Light's foot rub has 12,001 hits.


That's because we all wish L could touch our feet, too.
Light, you lucky bastard *shakes fist*

[Dark Moridin]

That's because we all wish L could touch our feet, too.
Light, you lucky bastard *shakes fist*

I would rather he did my taxes, or pick my lotto numbers.....

[MC_X]

Well I hate to admit that I knew L's fate long before I should have, but my knowing didn't take away the scene's impact. I had imagined it being a lot slower maybe with L reliving his childhood before he died or something like that. The whole affair went by really fast but it still shocked me.

I'll miss L, he had a great VA who made everything he said sound as if it had a double layer to it, always calculating. L, himself, was just an awesome character. Light's really twisted but at this point nothing he does shocks me. His acting after L's death really showed how much of a manipulative liar he is.

I'm not even going to comment on the foot scene, it's a biblical reference and I'm leaving it at that :sweat:. Unfortunately I had that spoiled as well so I was expecting it. I imagine L knew that it wouldn't be long for him so he just reserved himself to his fate. R.I.P, L.

[Megaman X]

You no with L dead it does leave some good questions

Who can step up and stop Light?

and

Is there someone ELSE that might have a death note and wants to be the god of the new world or just wants to kill everyone no matter good or evil.

[Dark Moridin]

trying to not touch the foot subject *ahem*, did anyone else find another similarity in the beginning of the eppy to Batman? L, arguably the worlds greatest detective (official detective that is) and Watari, the faithful butler/side kick. I was expecting to see his parents killed by a mugger.

Holy written note of death, Ryuzaki!

[Master Moron]

my question is how? if she touched him like grim reapers why not ryuzaki? or if she wrote him down first should she not have "died"?

I think there's a delay between the time when a shinigami writes down a name to save another's life and her death. Though, I actually seem to recall that Rem waited until after Watari died before writing L's name down. That seemed rather stupid. Being under time contraints, you'd figure Rem would write down L's name during the 30 seconds it took for Watari to have a heart attack. Actually, when I saw Rem furiously writing after Watari's death, I thought she was going to kill off more of the task force members. I guess she either didn't have time or didn't think any of them were a threat.

Well I hate to admit that I knew L's fate long before I should have, but my knowing didn't take away the scene's impact. I had imagined it being a lot slower maybe with L reliving his childhood before he died or something like that. The whole affair went by really fast but it still shocked me.


Yeah, I knew L was going to die as well. Someone on the anime board spoiled it for me. It's really hard to avoid spoilers for this show, it seems.

[Lazerboy5000]

So many spoilers… must… resist urge… to click buttons…………

This was an outstanding episode. Waturai and Ryozaki died. And because they died, Rem died. And now Light is God. It sure seems like he has the cards in his favor. He now is going to take over the investigation, so I’m guessing that eh will try to frame someone else, so Misa will be free to kill.

[Beat]

Actually, with no one left, who's to say he doesn't find Misa out and throw her in the clink? The look on her face as she's waiting in jail, knowing Light sold her out...that might just be worth it.

[Space Chief]

MATSUDA!

:D

>_>

[Jacob T. Paschal]

>_>

Well, at least he did something cool!

[TyUnlimited]

L.........DEAD?!

The best character on the show......WHY did he die?! Well.....I thought he would die....but not until the end. I figured everyone at the Task Force would die as well as L, Light, and Misa in a success and failure at catching Kira.

This episode was awesome....but so annoying! Well....I'll keep watching...but L better be avenged.

What on earth was Misa supposed to be singing? It was kinda...uncalled for...

[Batmex]

What on earth was Misa supposed to be singing? It was kinda...uncalled for...

According to the sountrack CD the song is called "Misa No Uta" don't know what it means:sweat:

[Demonic Raven]

According to the sountrack CD the song is called "Misa No Uta" That's literally "Misa's Song/Song of Misa".

[Mr. Toto]

This episode was amazing. I knew that the Death Note anime had style, but this just blew previous episodes out of the water. I really liked the silence when Light smiles so cruelly above the dying L. Simply stupendous.

[livingfruitvirus]

That's because we all wish L could touch our feet, too.
Light, you lucky bastard *shakes fist*

Now it's at 15,906.
Must be getting a lot of embeds.

[Bones Justice]

Great episode. Last week's preview teased that L was going to die but I never expected it to really happen! I preferred "good Light" to L as far as detectives go but L was one heckuva sleuth. He'll be missed.

Usually, I read the entire thread before I post but I couldn't here. Even though I didn't open any of the spoilers, there were far too many posts (from people that have seen the rest of the series) given little hints. I wish we could have two separate threads for people who have and haven't seen the show already. I hate spoilers. I don't even want to know how many episodes are left!

Anyways, if L really is dead, I wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of post-mortem contingency plan to stop Kira. Apparently, he knew his death was imminent but he doesn't seem like the kind to go down without a fight.

In chess, they say the top-chess player has less to fear from the second-best player than he does a rank amateur. The amateur is harder to predict. So maybe Light has more to fear in the long run from somebody like Matsuda than he ever did L.

Great show!

[RAINMAN]

It would be funny if Matsuda is the unsung hero that nobody expect to save the world. Anime/manga is funny like that sometimes. Althougth hes ben know to be a idiot, this tragic insertdent could mature him a bit into a smart person........yeah right.:sweat:

[Beat]

I'll tell you something though, killing off the main hero is kinda rare, but is L the main hero or is it Kira? Hmm?

As much as I dig into a show for not getting any ratings, and for its fanbase, episodes like this prove the actual story is what matters.