Toon Zone Talkback - "Shin-chan" DVD Confirmed As Dub Only Release

[ChibiGoku]

...Since someone accidently took the thread in the clean up, let me just recap what I said.

According to the information that was recently updated over at RightStuf.com, apparently the Shin Chan DVDs that are being released are going to be dub only. Uncut mind you, but dub only. Which... Is odd, considering I think it was explained the dvd release would be billingual last year by some of the staff that worked on the anime, here.

If anyone needs proof, here's what rightstuf has listed:

http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/JQ2ZqKfwf1RV0ZsGFL/browse/item/78062/4/0/0

I'm a little upset. Sure, the footage is unaltered, and it's uncut, but the lack of the Japanese audio is a little bit unsettling. Even if it had to do something with the episodes being out of order at the beginning, it shouldn't be much of a big deal, since they could just splice the segments with the proper japanese audio segment. That... And when FUNimation had uploaded those Shin Chan clips to youtube, they had all the japanese titles and no english paintovers...

So... :sweat:

[BrakusJS]

Realistically, what person, other than those that actually collect everything in Japanese and such, would want to hear Shin-chan in Japanese anyway? Even if it was available in Japanese, we'd have to deal with the Japanese references in the dialogue that no one outside of Japan is going to get.

[ClockStomper]

I was primarily considering buying these because I was wondering what the hell the original context was for most of what goes on in the show...this is infuriating.

[ChibiGoku]

Realistically, what person, other than those that actually collect everything in Japanese and such, would want to hear Shin-chan in Japanese anyway? Even if it was available in Japanese, we'd have to deal with the Japanese references in the dialogue that no one outside of Japan is going to get.

It's... not as bad as you would expect. Having seen the japanese version, there really isn't anything that'd be too difficult. There's some minor culture references to what's going on Japan, but other anime that's been released here has that as well. The only real complication that would be is translating the puns... Besides, I'm sure if I recall correctly, they had produced a straight translation for the subs.

[Beefy]

I doubt FUNimation is stupid enough to alienate the anime fans by releasing a DVD without the sacred Japanese audio track.

There's no way FUNimation would shoot themselves in the foot like that.

Me suspects it was the Japanese licensor that won't let them use the Japanese audio.

[livingfruitvirus]

Amazon says English and Japanese. It may have been an error on RightStuf's part. FUNimation's policy is basically bilingual for everything.

[zoombie]

Realistically, what person, other than those that actually collect everything in Japanese and such, would want to hear Shin-chan in Japanese anyway? Even if it was available in Japanese, we'd have to deal with the Japanese references in the dialogue that no one outside of Japan is going to get.

I guess I am one of those people. I have watched many Shin Chan episodes in Japanese, some with and some without subtitles, and I loved them. Nothing against Shin's English voice actress, but no one beats the Japanese voice of Shin.

And what is wrong with expanding your understanding of culture?

As far as the DVD is concerned, I like the FUNimation dub, so I'll buy it anyway. But I hope the Japanese company behind Shin Chan releases the entire series from the beginning on DVD. And they import here with a sub title version. The show has been on for over 15 years, I think it warrents it, just like the SImpsons here in america.

[delariean]

I guess I am one of those people. I have watched many Shin Chan episodes in Japanese, some with and some without subtitles, and I loved them. Nothing against Shin's English voice actress, but no one beats the Japanese voice of Shin.

And what is wrong with expanding your understanding of culture?

As far as the DVD is concerned, I like the FUNimation dub, so I'll buy it anyway. But I hope the Japanese company behind Shin Chan releases the entire series from the beginning on DVD. And they import here with a sub title version. The show has been on for over 15 years, I think it warrents it, just like the SImpsons here in america.


Animation.com lists it as dub only. I think Shin Chan never had an actual DVD release over in Japan. Me thinks it will be the case that it will be only English because of this.

[zoombie]

They should have included the first episode of Shin Chan with English subtitles as a bonus. I don't know what other two episodes were in the first half hour, but the very first episode is titled Going Shopping in which Misae sents Shinnosuke to the market to buy grocery because Hiroshi has important clients coming over.

[SpaceCowboy]

No buy for me if there's no Japanese track with faithful subs. I think the Japanese version's a better show than the English one, and one could just tape the dub off TV if they wanted to.

[DrTooth]

No buy for me if there's no Japanese track with faithful subs. I think the Japanese version's a better show than the English one, and one could just tape the dub off TV if they wanted to.


Yeah, what are they? 4Kids or something? A dub only track is hardly worth anything over a 12 dollar price tag.

Dub only DVd's. REDICULOUS. You might as well release VHS's.

[Mugen]

Can we wait until it comes out before jumping to conclusions? Amazon still has both tracks on there, and until someone at FUNi can confirm it, we can only wait.

[coconut_buyer]

I was primarily considering buying these because I was wondering what the hell the original context was for most of what goes on in the show...this is infuriating.

Oh noes! :eek:

[Reg]

I'm just stoked that they are releasing Shin Chan DVDs. Show is freaking hilarious. I prefer dubs myself but you'd think they would allow Japanese subtitles for those that prefer subs.

[Super Leviathan]

Yeah, what are they? 4Kids or something? A dub only track is hardly worth anything over a 12 dollar price tag.

Okay, now you've refilled my mind with memories of Kirby and Pokemon DVD's that were 3 episodes for 20 bucks (I taped Kirby off air, and bought the Poke VHS tapes once they started hitting the half-price and dollar stores).

But, a Dub-only release? In this day and age? That's like a non-anamorphic DVD release of a film shot in 2.35:1.

[D Dubbs]

*Awaits the FUNi bashing*

[ChibiGoku]

Looks like that ARE dub only... Gozar over at the FUNimation forum (http://community.funimation.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=73014)mentions the following...

Sadly...Yes...There's no JP Trackhttp://community.funimation.com/forum/image/s7.gif

I'm a Dubbie through and through...But I still enjoy watching some in JP aswell.

Edit: HOWEVER, On Disc 2 in the Extra's catagory they have the option of watching a single Episode in it's Original JP Format..."Battle Encho-man"

So... Yeah. = /

Mods mind changing the topic title to "DVDs Confirmed to be Dub Only"?

[firecrouch]

Well, it looks like I'll be returning my "Shin-Chan" DVD when it comes in the mail. It's a shame too, I was really looking forward to it and I bought it for the Japanese version. I'll definitely be looking for some answers from FUNimation and I'll share my disappointment with them, but I believe the reason the Japanese track isn't included is because the Japanese owners wouldn't let them. The DVD probably contains episodes that aren't yet available on Japanese DVD, so the Japanese companies who fear reverse-importation wouldn't allow the Japanese track on the cheaper region-1 DVDs. And it's a shame because the same thing happened with "Dragonball Z" (American DVDs released before Japanese ones) except all they did was take out the next-episode previews, they didn't take out the entire Japanese audio. I wish they could at least do something similar with "Shin-Chan", I mean FUNimation still doesn't use the original opening sequence so couldn't that count for something?

[Speedy Boris]

*Awaits the FUNi bashing* I'm not going to -bash- FUNi, as I'm grateful they brought this series here in the first place and are putting out more than four episodes at a time on these sets, but the lack of a sub track (outside of that small special feature) is quite disappointing. I was looking forward to hearing the original voices and possibly different subtitles along with it to see how much the jokes/dialog differed.

[Kitschensyngk]

So much for subtitled Happiness Bunny.

[Animeforever'04]

oh well! more more for One piece sets then

[D Dubbs]

I believe the reason the Japanese track isn't included is because the Japanese owners wouldn't let them.

Then why do they have one episode available with the original audio? If they can use one, I'm sure they could put the rest of them on the DVD.

[SpaceCowboy]

Sucks that there's no Japanese show with subs included.

[Animeforever'04]

is it even un beeped? aka no beeps over the stronger lang. tha can't air on swim

[firecrouch]

Then why do they have one episode available with the original audio? If they can use one, I'm sure they could put the rest of them on the DVD.

Possibly because it was the only episode on this set that's already been released on Japanese DVD.

[D Dubbs]

Well, maybe...but the way I see it is that Shin Chan is a hack dub, so FUNi is releasing the series on DVD like a hack dub.

*sigh*

Perhaps if we're lucky, FUNi will eventually release subtitled releases starting at the beginning of the series.

[Speedy Boris]

^ Oh PLEASE don't start this.

[D Dubbs]

For the record, I have never insulted the dub before today, because I believed that FUNimation would release the DVDs with the Japanese track. But now I have reason to be angry. FUNi is spitting in the faces of fans of the original version. If they didn't include the Japanese audio because of licensing issues, then that should have been made clear when they announced the DVD.

EDIT: More info on the DVD release:
Half of a Season...13 Episodes.

OK, I'll give everyone some lowdown on the Set...

First off I'm a little peeved...On the back of the Box it states that the Episodes are "Uncensored"...Yet they still bleep the "F-Bombs" & "S-Bombs"...They even censored t-i-t-s once =/...That's kind of annoying...

But onto the good...The set has a lot of nice Extras...

-"From the Bowels of the Booth"...Which contains a lot of alternate possible dialogue that Funimation was considering for certain scenes. Along with some Bloopers of the VA's screwing up. Which that actually upsets me even more because the VA's screw up their lines and drop a lot of "F-Bombs" yet they do not censor them.

-An Episode in it's Original Japanese Format with the Option of Subtitles.

-Commentary on Episode 4

-Cast Auditions

-Storyboards

[Spike Mcdougal]

First off I'm a little peeved...On the back of the Box it states that the Episodes are "Uncensored"...Yet they still bleep the "F-Bombs" & "S-Bombs"...They even censored t-i-t-s once =/...That's kind of annoying...

Damn, I wanted to hear "The Pink P****" line unbleeped

[Master Moron]

Well, maybe...but the way I see it is that Shin Chan is a hack dub, so FUNi is releasing the series on DVD like a hack dub.


The footage is uncut and the original music is kept. How exactly is it a hack dub?

[D Dubbs]

Uh...how about numerous name changes, skipped episodes, and completely rewritten scripts?

[jbanks97]

Isn't the show moderately old to begin with????

Isn't it possible to get this show in japanese some other way???
(Even if it means getting a multi-region dvd player?-they've got to be incredibly cheap now)

[D Dubbs]

Isn't the show moderately old to begin with????

Its run started many years ago in Japan, though it has gained enormous popularity and still airs new episodes on a weekly basis.

Isn't it possible to get this show in japanese some other way???
(Even if it means getting a multi-region dvd player?-they've got to be incredibly cheap now)

Apparently not, since the DVDs haven't been released in Japan according to someone who posted earlier in the thread...

[firecrouch]

Apparently not, since the DVDs haven't been released in Japan according to someone who posted earlier in the thread...

I never said that. Bandai Visual has been distributing the DVDs in Japan for some time now. All I meant was that FUNimation's season set, which contains its own episode order that's different from what's been shown on Japanese T.V., may contain episodes not yet available on Japanese DVD, which may explain why there is no Japanese track on the American DVD.

[Taylor Karras]

Realistically, what person, other than those that actually collect everything in Japanese and such, would want to hear Shin-chan in Japanese anyway? Even if it was available in Japanese, we'd have to deal with the Japanese references in the dialogue that no one outside of Japan is going to get.

I would.

[D Dubbs]

I never said that. Bandai Visual has been distributing the DVDs in Japan for some time now. All I meant was that FUNimation's season set, which contains its own episode order that's different from what's been shown on Japanese T.V., may contain episodes not yet available on Japanese DVD, which may explain why there is no Japanese track on the American DVD.

Oh. Well, I was actually referring to this post:

Animation.com lists it as dub only. I think Shin Chan never had an actual DVD release over in Japan. Me thinks it will be the case that it will be only English because of this.

But I guess delariean was wrong.

[BigLouMan20]

I'm bummed out the language is still bleeped. I may put this on hold now.:sad:

[J.E.Smith]

Hoo boy, the anti-FUNi dub people are gonna be pissed.

But I don't care if its dub only, at least now I get to see Hapiness Bunny on the road while I'm on vacation this summer!

[Speedy Boris]

Hey gang, I got the vol. 1 DVD today. Here are the episodes included:
DISC 1:
1. Pee Strike!
2. To Be a Man...
3. Safe as a Dry Hump
4. Get Your Hands Off My Happy Cake!
5. Gigantic One-Eyed Monster
6. Gum is a Good Food to Eat
7. A Mutha [BLEEP]ing Bunny!

DISC 2:
8. The Shin Must Poop On...
9. Shady Real Estate Office, Ho!
10. Can't Abort 'Em When They're Not Yours
11. Irregular Tampons on Sale!
12. Get Yours, or Die!
13. Swimming, Diving Scuba Team

That was a pleasant surprise that 13 episodes are included. Wasn't it only eight at one point?

[Eddy]

I'm alright with just having the dub. Japanese subtitles would have been nice and all, but I can live with it. I might pick this up sometime this week when I get the chance.

[livingfruitvirus]

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?style=MOVIE&pid=7371636&frm=lk_dvdps

Best deal I could find.

[Speedy Boris]

BTW, "pink pussy" is uncensored.

[Spike Mcdougal]

BTW, "pink pussy" is uncensored.

WOO HOO!!!

Is any other lines unbleeped or just this one part?

[Speedy Boris]

WOO HOO!!!

Is any other lines unbleeped or just this one part? I'm only to episode 4 so far but I haven't heard any beeps yet.

[Kitschensyngk]

I like the art on the packaging. Very colorful.

[Speedy Boris]

This is strange- they beeped out "t*ts" in the Happiness Bunny segment (the one where he comes alive). Talk about inconsistent. :shrug:

[Eddy]

This is strange- they beeped out "t*ts" in the Happiness Bunny segment (the one where he comes alive). Talk about inconsistent. :shrug:
Same with the "mutha *****ing bunny" line. Strange indeed.

[ChibiGoku]

Someone just told me this: Apparently the full opening wasn't included and is just the 10 or so second little bump that did appear on the Adult Swim broadcast. Surprised no one mentioned this before.

...This is strange, because I know FUNimation dubbed the opening and premiered it at a convention before the episodes were broadcasted on Adult Swim. I remember even reading comments about the dubbed opening, some saying it was well done.

Then, we get a confirmination about the bleeping. Seriously, what the heck is going on with this DVD release? It was supposed to have Japanese audio, according to the original solication info and information from numerious staff members that worked on the show, then it says Uncut and Uncensored, which is isn't completely true. Then, we're missing the dubbed opening song.

Makes me pretty much not want to buy the dvd, period. Well... For those enjoying the dvds, I hope you guys really are. Being a fan of both this new dub and original japanese version, it really makes it hard for me to want to pick up this set...

[FidoMcCokefiend]

well, this is a terrible DVD release. too bad I'm a consumer whore.


Watching the DVDs, i noticed, the end theme has been re-recorded...

[zoombie]

They should have included "Going Shopping" as a bonus. And maybe some of the Japanese openings. Oh well, I still like the show anyway. I can't really be mad at FUNi, it is up to the Japanese company that produces Shin in Japan to release the original on region 1 DVD, it is there fault for depriving us of the real Shin Chan.