If CN were to make a new spin-off network...

[Sketch]

What would you prefer?

The scenario is that Turner decides that Boomerang as is doesn't fit their business model anymore and the current Boomerang is replaced by one of the following (because I don't see them having more than 2 networks).

1) Boomerang - Classic Cartoons for all ages
A better formated Boomerang with some more variety and nothing but truely vintage animation pre-mid 90s.

2) Cartoon Cartoon Network - CN's Original shows for all ages
Think Nicktoons but with CN's shows and a few acquisitions instead of Nick's shows and a few acquisitions.

3) Cartoon Network 2 - The Animation Network for tweens and teens (or all ages)
Mostly comprised of older CN original programing and some acquisitions with a greater emphasis on PG and some TV-14 material. Definently would include Toonami or a Toonami-like block of programing daily.

4) Toonami 24/7 - Action animation for all ages (but emphasis on 9-17)
I don't believe I even have to explain this one but ideally the after hours would be comprised of ASA programing (as it only gets to air once a week now besides Inuyasha).

[Blackstar]

I like the CN2 idea, myself.

My take on a CN spinoff channel goes thusly:

-Cartoon Network: The 1st channel would remain pretty much intact, except that there would no longer be any more live action series and movies airing on the channel. CN would remain the place for original animated programs such as Foster's, Ed3, KND, Camp Lazlo, Chowder, Ben 10, etc., as well as the "classic" Cartoon-Cartoons such as Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab and PPG, but no more Goosebumps and Out of Jimmy's Head. They would instead go to...

-Cartoon Network 2 or Kids' Network (KN): This is what I'm calling it until I can think of a more creative name. Basically, this would be Turner/Time Warner's big chance to properly compete with Nick and Disney. KN would not be exclusively animation, so they could air all the live action movies, toku shows and kidcoms that they wanted to without angry animation fans complaining about it. Jimmy, Goosebumps, and any non-animated TV shows or movies would be shown here instead of on CN.

-Boomerang: This channel would remain the same, for the most part, except that there would be a wider variety of "classic" cartoons (if only, if only). Boom would remain commercial free.

Toonami would continue to air on Saturday nights on CN, except that it would return to it's original 4 hour format and would include some canceled programs like Megas XLR. The reason I didn't nominate for Toonami to become it's own channel is because I'm fairly certain that Time Warner would ruin a 24 hour Toonami channel after about a year or so.

[adult swim] would air late nights on CN2/KN.

[John Dorian]

Deja Vu.

[Silverstar]

I like both of your suggestions, actually.

Myself, I propose a combination thereof:

I would merge Sketch's Cartoon-Cartoon Network and Boomerang into a single channel. (Call it something like Cartoon Retro or Cartoon Rewind.) Said channel would be like Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite; it would be Boomerang from morning to early afternoon, and switch to Cartoon-Cartoon Network from late afternoons to evenings. (Or vice-versa, whichever way is more feasible and profitable.) This channel would also include shows like Toon Heads, The Tex Avery Show, etc. and would also feature a wider variety of acquisitions and some original programming tossed in to keep viewers interested.

I agree with Blackstar (surprise, surprise!) that The Powers That Be would royally screw up a 24/7 Toonami channel, so I would keep Toonami as a block and air it on Cartoon Network 2 (or Kids' Network). And since KN/CN2 wouldn't be exclusively animation, the shows featured could also be live-action (i.e., Kamen Rider, Big Bad BeetleBorgs, Out of Jimmy's Head, the David Duchovny project) without people complaining. The live-action movies would also air here from now on.

Cartoon Network itself would remain as it is now, only minus the live-action shows and movies. [adult swim] would continue to air late nights on CN.

[Dr.Pepper]

If I get a Cartoon Cartoon Network, I will die a happy person.

[lemonhead75]

Re-name Boomerang the Cartoon Cartoon Network Channel.

Just add all the CN originals to the mix.

[Blackstar]

Re-name Boomerang the Cartoon Cartoon Network Channel.

Just add all the CN originals to the mix.

Network Channel is redundant. Either call it a 'channel' or a 'network', not both.

Also, I think that most people would prefer it if the classics and the CN originals didn't occupy the same space and time, so one wouldn't be constantly be crowding out the other. Silverstar had CCN and Boomerang sharing the same channel number, but not at the same time; one would become the other after a certain hour. Think Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite.

[Sketch]

Well combining Cartoon Cartoon Network and Boomerang is basically what Boomerang is now though perhaps not as organized. The thing is, doing that doesn't really give adequate time to either. CN has enough original programing to fill 24 hours effectively just as the have more than enough backlog to have a very variety filled Boomerang. And making Boomerang only in the morning and afternoon isn't very useful except for maybe on the weekends. At which point Boomerang might as well just be a block.

Well its true I wouldn't really trust CN's current staff with a Toonami channel but despite their recent poor decisions I would trust such a channel with Williams Street.

Hmm... Kids Network. Well it might be a good way to deter live action from CN but the sad reality is as this channel would be far less available they would keep their live action efforts on the main channel where they are more likely to be seen. So trying to improve CN proper isn't part of this scenario, not with the current staff in place.

[Mugen]

Well, the logical choice would be the Cartoon Cartoon Network. With that, they can reformat Boomerang bumpers and whatnot, but in terms of shows, they wouldn't need to do much. More newer stuff is airing on there and the only difference between this and Boomerang is that some of the classic cartoons would probably be off the schedule. The network would target 6-11 year olds and 9-14 year olds, like Nicktoons Network. It would also have commercials, something that Boomerang lacks.

Personally, I think two spinoff channels for CN would be fine. CC Network and a Pogo channel would be nice. One would air the older CN shows and have some other acquisitions(CC Network) while the other would air both live-action/animation(Pogo Network).

However, I think realistically, what might happen to Boomerang(aside from doing not much with it right now) is make a total revamp and turn it into what the Latin-America Boomerang is like right now. Which is a Nickelodeon/Disney Channel/Boomerang-type network.

[Silverstar]

Well combining Cartoon Cartoon Network and Boomerang is basically what Boomerang is now though perhaps not as organized. The thing is, doing that doesn't really give adequate time to either. CN has enough original programing to fill 24 hours effectively just as the have more than enough backlog to have a very variety filled Boomerang. And making Boomerang only in the morning and afternoon isn't very useful except for maybe on the weekends. At which point Boomerang might as well just be a block.

Well its true I wouldn't really trust CN's current staff with a Toonami channel but despite their recent poor decisions I would trust such a channel with Williams Street.

Hmm... Kids Network. Well it might be a good way to deter live action from CN but the sad reality is as this channel would be far less available they would keep their live action efforts on the main channel where they are more likely to be seen. So trying to improve CN proper isn't part of this scenario, not with the current staff in place.

Good points.

So in that regard, I voted for Cartoon-Cartoon Network, and possibly* also CN2/Kids' Network. Boomerang could stay as it is now, just expand their library a bit.


*The reason I said 'possibly' is because while I think that both CCN and CN2 are good ideas, realistically I don't see Turner/Time-Warner spinning CN off into 2 additional channels. With CN and Boom already under their belts, I could see them giving us a 3rd channel at a stretch, but giving us 2 extra channels doesn't sound like something this current regime would be willing to sink their money into. Even if they were to do that, it's a safe bet that all 4 channels would not be available to all homes right away. A likely scenario would be for either CN or Boomerang (more than likely the latter) getting dumped or radically reformatted.

[Racattack!Force]

Boomerang. It could be much better at this time, and maybe a nice name change...actually, let's stick with Boomerang. After, they are throwing a stick and showing us older cartoons. But the pre 1995 rule won't hold forever. By 2015, I would want pre 2000/2002 cartoons on there also. :shrug:

[Blackstar]

To clarify, Kids Network wasn't intended to be exclusively live action. I meant for it to be a mixture of live action and animated programming. It was just supposed to be somewhere for live action shows and movies to go and no one would complain about them airing on the channel because said channel didn't have the word 'Cartoon' in it's name.

I still like the idea of the classic cartoons and the original cartoon shows airing on separate channels, so that there wouldn't be the ongoing power struggle between them. If CN and Boomerang were to merge, then I would go with Silver's suggestion of having one channel become the other at a certain time of the day/night.

Upon further reflection, it would seem that if any 2 channels were to merge, they should probably be CCN and KN, even though that would basically be what CN is doing now, unless they were to designate certain hours for certain channels, like Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite.

[Racattack!Force]

If they were to merge, I would like something like how Noggin and The N were before New Years'. That is, a 50-50 split. Classical programming during the day, and more recent during the evening & night. Or vice-versa.

[Sketch]

Half and half is a good idea in some ways but one half will inevitably get shafted. Noggin worked the way it did because it had two drastically different targets like Nick to NAN. When you're dealing with cartoons there's A) no reason to focus on the viewers Noggin did because that's yet to prove profitable for CN and B) and it's difficult to make a constrast short of making it half Adult Swim. Especially with CN never being willing to target half a channel specifically at teenagers.

I'm not opposed to a half Boomerang half Cartoon Cartoon Network but being only in the morning hours really shafts Boomerang and classics in general. To the point that it may as well just be a block.

Though in the ideas of splits... Have CN2 with Toonami running in the overnight hours starting at 9PMish allows for both CN2 and Toonami to have adequate air time and that way at least both get some PT time. You could try that with Boomerang and Cartoon Cartoon Network but again that's pretty much what Boomerang is at this point.

[Darklordavaitor]

I like the idea of Cartoon Network 2. Instead of turning it to an [adult swim] channel, what should be done is that CN2 aims to air new, more intelligent animated programming, similar to the likes of the revoultionary Cartoon Cartoons, alongside some of the said Cartoon Cartoons and maybe even some more obscure, yet fitting series from a long time ago. For example, unless Nick still owns the rights to it, Turner should buy airing rights for 6TEEN and try it on CN2.

A Toonami channel would be nice, but at this point, it's just not going to happen, admit it. I shouldn't even go into context of why not.

A Cartoon Cartoon channel, well, IMO, CN dosen't need two trashcan-esq channels. Boomerang's enough, and that's already airing The Batman and Baby Looney Tunes. Like I said, it'd be nice if we could get some Cartoon Cartoons on CN2, or at least add more to Boomerang.

[Silverstar]

OK, how's this for a revised list?

Cartoon Network-would remain pretty much as is, except without the live-action shows and movies. These would instead go to....

Cartoon Network 2-this would basically be an extension of CN, except that it would air its' programming on a different schedule than CN, kind of an East Coast/West Coast thing (so if you missed a premiere episode of Chowder or Ben 10 on CN, you could catch it hours later or a day or so later on CN2). Also CN2 would carry Out of Jimmy's Head, Goosebumps, Kamen Rider, the Duchovny iCarly show and all of the live-action shows and movies that everyone complained about being on CN.*

*Toonami and [adult swim] could either continue to run on CN, or one of both of them could conceivably be moved to CN2, which would aim itself at a slightly older demographic than CN.

Cartoon-Cartoon Network-this would basically be what Nicktoons Network is to Nick; a dumping ground for canceled Cartoon-Cartoons. CCN would also feature 90's-00's toons like Justice League, The Batman, Swat Kats, 2 Stupid Dogs and all of the shows which many claim are "too new" to be on Boomerang, as well as some former Toonami/Miguzi shows like Megas XLR and Static Shock. In addition, CCN would also feature some acquisitions not found on CN, like What's With Andy? or 6Teen, as well as some shows for younger viewers like Baby Looney Tunes, Ellen's Acres and Krypto the Superdog which would air in the mornings, and some original shows tossed in to keep viewers interested.

Boomerang-this channel would also remain basically the same as before, only minus the shows that are considered "too recent" to air on it. Boom's library could also be expanded to show a wider range of classics, such as the shows found on Teletoon Retro, like Looney Tunes, Woody Woodpecker, The Archies and Fat Albert. With the additional airtime, Boom could also air former CN shows like O Canada and Toon Heads.

The way I picture it, CNs 1 and 2 would each be basic cable (they would be bundled together, like ESPNs 1 and 2) while CCN and Boom would be digital tier/upgrade channels. Boomerang could continue to run ad-free, but since CCN would feature original programming and 3rd party acquisitions, it would probably have to be ad-supported.

[Jeff Harris]

Cartoon Network can't manage ONE channel properly, let alone two, which they do.

Digital television allows for growth. ION and PBS are proof that there's so much that could be done with expanded choices, and cable networks will likewise expand. People need to get from the mindset of "analog cable" and "digital cable." It's all going to be digital cable next year. Analog's going the way of the dodo next year, and it's time for new players to emerge because it's time for new individuals to succeed where Cartoon Network failed.

And yes, Cartoon Network failed.

If there was some sense left at Techwood, Cartoon Network could easily create two subchannels as could Boomerang, and they'll certainly have space soon:

Cartoon Network
(Targeted Demos: K 6-12)
CN.1 - Cartoon Network (Main Channel): The DT version of the mess of the channel we have now. With capabilities to go widescreen if necessary as well as keep 4:3 ratio for recent shows.

CN.2 - Cartoon Network Two (Subchannel One): A digital, expanded, all-animation channel with a majority of the lineup Cartoon Network original cartoon series.

CN.3 - CN Kids (Subchannel Two): Essentially, this is the channel CN wants Cartoon Network to be. Think POGO or the international versions of Boomerang for a clearer view of this channel.

Boomerang
(Aimed towards older audiences)
BR.1 - Boomerang (Main Channel): The DT version of Boomerang, which, at its core, is still a classic all-animation channel.

BR.2 - Toonami (Subchannel One): A better brand-name than Boomeraction, a digital all-action animation channel like nothing else on the planet.

BR.3 - Swim (Subchannel Two): Not [adult swim]. Swim. Essentially an animation channel aimed towards the college-aged and young adult audiences that made [as] such a hit.

Still, if Cartoon Network wouldn't at least fathom something like that, there are others that could. And would.

[FTPC]

But Jeff All points are good but one question

How would TWC aka time wanner Cable and the Cartoon network mangers (the people in charge) feel about cut Cartoon Network in to 5 different channels, and what would happen to Toonami, when Cartoon network has lost rights to an anime like Blue dragon for Example?

Trust me I Like your Idea, and I would to add something if I May, Ok When Toonami reaches the 11pm to 6a time Slot why can’t they are the Action block that [AS] or the Animes on Adult swim has no respect or use for. And trust me in time death note and bleach (when [as] gets all the Episodes of it will become like the rest of anime unloved and unwanted..

[Blackstar]

A half and half cartoon channel is a good idea in theory (I was thinking Cartoon-Cartoon Network and Boomerang), but the stone cold reality is that 1 half will inevitably get hosed. And judging by the responses here, it seems that no one wants to see Boomerang get cut in half. So be it. Boomerang can remain 24/7 and ad free. As for the others, I've been thinking (not very hard, mind you), and this is a combination that just might work:

Cartoon Network- Would stay the same, except that it would go back to being all animation, all the time, the way it was intended to be. Toonami could air weekly (or perhaps daily on this channel).

POP TV (formerly Kids Network, I wasn't really feeling that name, I just wanted a name that didn't have 'Cartoon' in the title)- This is where Out of Jimmy's Head, Goosebumps, Kamen Rider, Big Bad Beetleborgs and the other live action TV shows and movies would go. Of course, POP TV could not and should not be all live action, so the rest of POP's schedule would be animated programming that you would not see on CN. 3rd part acquisitions such as What's With Andy? and other imports. There would be a preschool block that would air early weekday mornings, and the shows for big kids would air later in the day, then POP TV could become [adult swim] late nights.

Boomerang- All Boomerang needs is a wider variety of retro programming. More old-school series, perhaps even a few syndicated specials from the 1980s. All of the late 90s-early 2000 shows that are "too recent" to air on Boom would be moved to...

CN2 or Cartoon-Cartoon Network- This is where the canceled Cartoon-Cartoons would end up, as well as canceled CN shows such as Justice League, Megas XLR, IGPX, etc. This is another potential channel for the Toonami block. CN2 would be commercial free, unless there were to be some original programming. The logo would be the current CN logo, only with an extra 3rd tile with a number 2 on it, which would be white on blue instead of white on black.

[Toonfan2000]

My list of CN spinoffs:

CARTOON NETWORK - The same as present, except with the original logo and no live-action programming (and Blackstar, don't complain about the "hard-to-see" bug. They made it more opaque in 2001 for a reason).

CARTOON NETWORK CLASSIC - A revamped Boomerang. Higher emphasis on the pre-90s HB/WB/MGM toons. The logo would be the original CN logo, with an extra row reading "CLASSIC". Instead of black and white, it would be blue and sky blue.

CARTOON CARTOON NETWORK - A "retirement home" for '90s and early-'00s CN shows. It also shows the more genteel SGC2C episodes. The logo would be the original CN logo with an extra "CARTOON". The logo would be red and yellow.

ADULT SWIM - Basically, a 24-hour version of the block. They can pull it off. There's some shows they have (Space Ghost, Brak, Sealab) and some they could get (The Simpsons, Bob and Margaret, etc.) The logo would be the original logo (the big, red, bold "ADULT SWIM").

[Racattack!Force]

(The Simpsons)
They might only have a chance at the early seasons. :shrug:

[Dudley]

I think Boomerang fine's the way it is.
I think we either need a Cartoon Cartoon Channel, or a Toonami Network.

[Blackstar]

CARTOON NETWORK - The same as present, except with the original logo and no live-action programming (and Blackstar, don't complain about the "hard-to-see" bug. They made it more opaque in 2001 for a reason).

I wasn't going to complain abut that. I just don't for the life of me understand why the current CN logo is hated by so many. I mean, no one ever complains about how Boomerang's logo is just a letter B, so what difference does it make if CN's logo is the entire words Cartoon Network or just the 2 initials?

[Silverstar]

I just don't for the life of me understand why the current CN logo is hated by so many.

It has nothing to do with the logo itself; a lot of people hate the new CN logo because to them it represents the End of an Era, when the channel stopped being the beloved Cartoon Network and became this strange new animal known as CN. It's because the logo was streamlined around the same time the changes started happening. People who are upset with the new direction the channel's been going in need something to scapegoat, and the shortened logo makes for an easy target.

[Jeff Harris]

How would Time Warner Cable and the Cartoon network managers feel about cut Cartoon Network into five different channels, and what would happen to Toonami, when Cartoon network has lost rights to an anime like Blue dragon for Example?For the second half, it wouldn't matter because subchannels wouldn't be built around just one show. Plus, as we have seen, Toonami's not promised to us anymore.

It'll still be relatively one channel with multiple subchannels which could be the digital widescreen ratio or "standard TV" ratio.

PBS and ION affiliates are currently doing this en masse. My local PBS affiliate has PBS HD, "regular" PBS, and PBS Kids on its digital channel while my local ION affiliate has ION, qubo, ION Life, and Worship on their digital channel. Some local markets are also using their digital subchannels to broadcast digital feeds of broadcast channels and introduce newer channels like Retro Television Network. It's still one channel, just with more than just one channel coming out of it.

It's the future of television. We're entering a phase in television that looks (at least at my first observation) very promising. One that many cable operators and network providers should look at as a truly creative opportunity. Companies once afraid of growth could now expand with no problem since they could come out of their bellweather brands.

Comedy Central could have Comedy Central as their main channel with subchannels that could focus on sketch/stand-up or sitcoms. TNT could create a commercial movie subchannel in addition to their regular network. ABC Family could literally create a teen-oriented subchannel that wouldn't have to adhere to the CBN-mandated rules they had to when Disney bought the channel or even launch an ABC Kids subchannel.

Technology has caught up with dreamers like me, and the idea of creating subchannels, while not original (premium channels and a few basic channels have been multicasting for over a decade now), has become a reality. The future is here.

[Antiyonder]

It's the future of television. We're entering a phase in television that looks (at least at my first observation) very promising. One that many cable operators and network providers should look at as a truly creative opportunity. Companies once afraid of growth could now expand with no problem since they could come out of their bellweather brands.

Up for debate. I mean when Toon Disney, Boomerang and Nicktoons started out, they gave us programming no longer seen on basic channels. While Boomerang is still somewhat diverse, Nicktoons and Toon Disney (Though for the moment is mild) are filled with shows that can be seen on the more available mainstream channels.

You know how people joke that there are 100 channels and still nothing to watch? That's because whenever a company gets another channel, they eventually turn it into a semi-clone of the mainstream channel. And when a company has say 4 channels (Disney), there should 160-192 shows between the two channels. But instead the the number of titles is 60-99 shows at the most (at least I estimate anyway).

[Toonfan2000]

They might only have a chance at the early seasons. :shrug:

Those are widely considered the show's best anyway.

[Pomegranate]

Since CN wants to put lots of focus into their original programming and live-action programming these days just to compete with the likes of both Nick and Disney Channel, I'd suggest some more brand-new channels from TW, more spinoff channels for CN, reformatting some of the existing TW-owned networks and finally bringing over Pogo to the USA as well.

Cartoon-Cartoons Network(or CCN for short): This will be CN's answer to Nicktoons Network and Toon Disney, which means it'll be a dumping ground for 90s toons TW fully owns, their cancelled originals and 3rd-party programming they currently hold the rights, but no longer want to show anymore on basic cable. CCN will also feature some acquisitions not found on the primary CN, some original programming of their very own and some programming from the WB library such as Animaniacs and Justice League as well.

Cartoon Network Oldies: CN's outlet for older cartoons! This is what Boomerang will renamed as, so people will recognize it as an animation channel that displays animated oldies 24/7. Instead of displaying the same programs ad nauseam, CN Oldies(formerly Boomerang) can expand their horizons by acquiring more 3rd-party programming, such as Inspector Gadget and The Raccoons, displaying more new eps. of programs currently on Boomerang and digging more deeper into the TW vaults for more animated classics such as Looney Tunes and Popeye. Finally, this channel will display only pre-90s cartoons and all the post-1989 programming currently on Boomerang will be sent to either the primary CN, CCN or Pogo.

Pogo: TW's other family-oriented network, originating from India and also run seperately from CN under the Turner umbrella! Once it's brought to the USA, it'll become the exclusive home for all live-action programming CN has ever displayed during its entire lifetime and will also inherit the full worldwide controlling rights to all of CN's original live-action productions, including the production rights to any and all future OOJH episodes, Ben 10 live-action films, that Duchovny iCarly ripoff and all other future live-action programming CN will craft. In addition, Pogo will also display a wide variety of family programming, including Monster Warriors and other tokusatsu-esque programming, some original programming of their own, preschool programming, Hanna-Barbera programming featuring live-action segments, family/youth sitcoms, some animated programming, etc.

Tiny TV: Pogo's early morning programming block for preschoolers, will be spun off into its own standalone channel! Where Tickle U has flopped, it can succeed with better programming and a better lineup, making it Turner's answer to Noggin. It'll also display a wide variety of programming aimed towards very young children, including leftovers from other preschool-oriented networks(e.g. Playhouse Disney and PBS Kids), kodomo anime(e.g. Doraemon) and some original programming of their own as well. Very popular preschool shows, such as Doraemon and In the Night Garden, can serve as the network's marquee programming. All of the preschool programming that already airs on Boomerang, such as Baby Looney Tunes and Gerald McBoing Boing, will also be sent to this channel. Such a channel can also prevent preschool programming from taking up too much time on other channels that weren't aimed towards very young children, esp. preschoolers, in the 1st place.

Williams Street Network(or WSN for short): If I were in charge of Turner/TW, I'd seperate Williams Street from CN, so WSN can display a wide variety of programming aimed towards older demographics and cult fans, including 100% uncut anime, subbed tokusatsu, animated adult series(e.g. Boondocks), higher-rated movies(e.g. New Line's LoTR flicks), Williams Street originals that were produced for both Toonami and [AS], etc. Since this is an interest channel for older demographics, all of WSN's programming will at least contain some content that's at least edgy enough to earn them a TV-PG rating. In addition, some of the Toonami and [AS] programming will air on this channel, as well as some original programming made for this channel.

[Yung Remix]

This was a hard choice, but I chose a cartoon cartoon network because we need a channel that shows cartoons like PPG, johnny bravo, courage, dexter, cow and chicken and others. I miss them and wish they were on CN. I do not think they belong on boomerang because that is for classic cartoons and I would not an old gem taken off for a fairly recent cartoon. It would cool to see all of the old bumpers again.
A toonami network would be great. I would prefer if they bring back tom3, sara and the absolution. the network would have one piece, naruto, bo7, dragon ball,z,gt,sailor moon, tenchi muyo, gundam, zatch bell, teen titans, the DCAU, and PPGZ and more. it would be crazy.:D ah i just Turner is thinking about doing this. it would be epic!

[FTPC]

well can't william street try to give toonami and tom there on channel, then TWC would cut out some of these other channel like all the espn, the state of NC has five *bleep* espn channels, if you ask me twc needs to start over from stach

[Blackstar]

well can't william street try to give toonami and tom there on channel, then TWC would cut out some of these other channel like all the espn, the state of NC has five *bleep* espn channels, if you ask me twc needs to start over from stach

Toonami did have it's own channel in the UK, but it died due to the folks in charge of it deviating from the action cartoons format. They began airing kid friendly sitcom reruns on the channel, thus signaling it's end.

What's TWC?

[Toonfan2000]

What's TWC?

Time Warner Cable.

[Blackstar]

Thanks, Toonfan2000. :)

[SF4Ever]

If Cartoon Network could spin off another cable network, why not CN2. If there was CN2, I'd like for it to feature programs from the Entertainment Rights programming library, primarily Filmation shows, such as The Archies, Groovy Goolies, Flash Gordon, The Lone Ranger, Fat Albert & the Cosby Kids, The Super 7 and the original He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, among others. Also include other noted programs, like G.I. Joe, Beethoven, The Real Ghost Busters, Conan the Adventurer, DIC's Heathcliff series, Inspector Gadget, the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series, among some ideas if there could be CN2. Something to think about.

[Silverstar]

well can't william street try to give toonami and tom there on channel, then TWC would cut out some of these other channel like all the espn, the state of NC has five *bleep* espn channels, if you ask me twc needs to start over from stach

Williams Street wouldn't try to make a Toonami channel even if they wanted to; Toonami doesn't have enough programming to be on 24/7. 5 or 6 shows repeated 10 to 12 times a day would not make a good network. Plus, Williams doesn't seem to care all that much about Toonami right now. Heck, there's barely a Toonami block nowadays.

And even if WS did make a Toonami channel, I doubt Time Warner Cable (or any cable company, for that matter) would drop their ESPNs to accommodate it. The reason there are so many fragging ESPN channels is because ESPN is popular. Lots of people like their sports, ergo, there are lots of sports channels.

The more believable scenario would be TWC keeping their 5 ESPNs and making the Toonami Channel part of an additional tier upgrade package, so folks would have to pay an additional fee on top of their standard cable fee in order to receive it.

[Blackstar]

If Cartoon Network could spin off another cable network, why not CN2. If there was CN2, I'd like for it to feature programs from the Entertainment Rights programming library, primarily Filmation shows, such as The Archies, Groovy Goolies, Flash Gordon, The Lone Ranger, Fat Albert & the Cosby Kids, The Super 7 and the original He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, among others. Also include other noted programs, like G.I. Joe, Beethoven, The Real Ghost Busters, Conan the Adventurer, DIC's Heathcliff series, Inspector Gadget, the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series, among some ideas if there could be CN2. Something to think about.

The proverbial dent in the armor there is that Turner/Time Warner doesn't own the broadcasting rights to any of those shows, in fact, most of the Flimation shows are currently tied up in legal red tape over who actually owns them. Add to that, none of the titles that you mentioned have ever aired on CN, at least not in the U.S.. If you ask me, they'd all be better fit to air on Boomerang, since they're all over 10 years old and aren't making new episodes. I doubt that Turner/Time Warner would want to make a 2nd rerun/nostalgia channel when they already have one.

[Draft]

I think what they should do is rename Boomerang CN2 and just continue adding CC's and phasing out the old shows. Also adding Toonami to the block and maybe Adult Swim (Though since Anime has been stripped of weekdays, it won't be neccessary for awhile) could help it too. Basically, give 7PM-7AM 90s-00s Series, and 7AM-7PM H-B Stuff.

[Racattack!Force]

You know, I'm just wondering...would Carton Network be able to air shows like "Animaniacs" and "Histeria!"? :confused:

[Silverstar]

You know, I'm just wondering...would Carton Network be able to air shows like "Animaniacs" and "Histeria!"? :confused:

Cartoon Network did air Animaniacs for a brief time. Histeria, however, hasn't seen the light of day since Kids' WB aired the series in 2000.

If Cartoon Network could spin off another cable network, why not CN2. If there was CN2, I'd like for it to feature programs from the Entertainment Rights programming library, primarily Filmation shows, such as The Archies, Groovy Goolies, Flash Gordon, The Lone Ranger, Fat Albert & the Cosby Kids, The Super 7 and the original He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, among others. Also include other noted programs, like G.I. Joe, Beethoven, The Real Ghost Busters, Conan the Adventurer, DIC's Heathcliff series, Inspector Gadget, the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series, among some ideas if there could be CN2. Something to think about.

All of the shows you mentioned are over 10, 15 or 20 years old, so that sounds more like a revised Boomerang schedule than a lineup for a CN2. Even if Turner Time Warner were to someday acquire the broadcast rights to air those shows, they wouldn't need to create an all-new rerun channel just to accommodate them as long as Boomerang still exists. Ideally, a CN2 should feature new programming, as well as possibly becoming the place for the live-action shows and movies to air instead of CN, or perhaps a refuge from the live-action and a place to showcase the forgotten Toonami and Miguzi shows.

[Mickialla]

Cartoon Network did air Animaniacs for a brief time. Histeria, however, hasn't seen the light of day since Kids' WB aired the series in 2000.

Every now and again they'll air Yakko's Wish, the Animaniacs movie. But it usually comes on in the 10:30 AM movie hour, when I'm in school...

[Racattack!Force]

I'm thinking of a three-hour Sunday afternoon block showcasing Warner Bros. cartoons from the 90s. But it may just be a dream...for now. :sweat:

[Deadman]

id love a cartoon cartoon network.