Are you a good person or a bad person?

[Master Toon]

I try my best to be a good person but it doesn't seem to help. I use to believe "what goes around, comes around" but it seems like when I try to be good, I get bad luck. And if you aren't a religious person who believes that good deeds will be rewarded after you die, what keeps you from being bad? If you believe life itself has no consequences, what's to stop you from killing, stealing, etc?

[GregX]

::Looks at thread topic::

Gee, I wonder what most people are going to say? ;)

I'm sure Hitler, Stalin, Osama, Pol Pot and Jeffrey Dalmer would say they were good people also.

And if you aren't a religious person who believes that good deeds will be rewarded after you die, what keeps you from being bad? If you believe life itself has no consequences, what's to stop you from killing, stealing, etc?

Prison rape. ;)

[RJVanSchaick]

I'm not deeply religious, even though both of my parents are (my father is a minister). But they did successfully pass on the idea of accepting responsibility for your actions.

If you can live with the consequences, you don't need my approval to break the law.

[Antiyonder]

I try my best to be a good person but it doesn't seem to help. I use to believe "what goes around, comes around" but it seems like when I try to be good, I get bad luck. And if you aren't a religious person who believes that good deeds will be rewarded after you die, what keeps you from being bad? If you believe life itself has no consequences, what's to stop you from killing, stealing, etc?

Have to get back to you on that, but I'm going to take equate good with civil for the purpose of one comment on the matter.

I'm generally a civil person because I was brought up that way. But if people need a reason to be civil here's an example of how civility could lesson a particular problem.

School shootings. While not always the case, one thing that can leading to shootings is that the kid going gun crazy was bullied frequently by classmates. Not justifying said kid's action, but part of solving a problem is understanding the events leading up to it.

I mean, when's the last time a kid went on a school shooting because his classmates help him with assignments, shared a bag of chips or loaned him a pen/pencil?

To look at it this way, if virtually everyone on the planet improved their civil behavior, then would any negative consequences (such as murder, theft, bombings, shootings, etc) occur as a result of said civility? Not that I could see. The only time I see conflicts to be necessary are simply for competition (spelling bee or game shows) or business.

[GregX]

Have to get back to you on that, but I'm going to take equate good with civil for the purpose of one comment on the matter.

I'm generally a civil person because I was brought up that way. But if people need a reason to be civil here's an example of how civility could lesson a particular problem.

School shootings. While not always the case, one thing that can leading to shootings is that the kid going gun crazy was bullied frequently by classmates. Not justifying said kid's action, but part of solving a problem is understanding the events leading up to it.

I mean, when's the last time a kid went on a school shooting because his classmates help him with assignments, shared a bag of chips or loaned him a pen/pencil?

To look at it this way, if virtually everyone on the planet improved their civil behavior, then would any negative consequences (such as murder, theft, bombings, shootings, etc) occur as a result of said civility? Not that I could see. The only time I see conflicts to be necessary are simply for competition (spelling bee or game shows) or business.

Human nature, just won't happen.

But to get back to the original post, I see a lot of naivety in the original post, especially when it comes to the idea that you need to fear eternal damnation to not kill and steal. Many of histories most heinous crimes were carried out in the name of God.

Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda commit acts of terrorism, and murdered thousands of people in New York over six years ago in the name of their God.

Look at the Spanish Inquisition. Look at the Crusades. Look at any time a homosexual is brutally murdered. Look at Fred Phelps.

Human nature is human nature, people just look for an excuse. Or people restrain themselves for any number of reasons. You don't need religion for it.

[Antiyonder]

Human nature is human nature, people just look for an excuse. Or people restrain themselves for any number of reasons. You don't need religion for it.

Which is the point I'm was trying to make in paragraph 3 and 5. Especially 3, because it basically say that the kid you crap on today may blow your brains out tomorrow with dad's revolver. Seems like a good reason to show restraint to me.

[RJVanSchaick]

School shootings. While not always the case, one thing that can leading to shootings is that the kid going gun crazy was bullied frequently by classmates. Not justifying said kid's action, but part of solving a problem is understanding the events leading up to it.

Sorry, but I have my own slant on that. I was teased viciously through junior high and most of high school, and I channeled that into a 4.0 GPA. I figured I would bust my ass, and someday they'd be pumping my gas and serving my food. When I was living up in Connecticut, I actually did have someone who used to tease me take my order at a Burger King. He never finished high school. In the end, everyone decides their own fate.

I suppose in that respect, the adage of "what goes around comes around" hold true. Look at most jocks. They're on the top rung in high school, and if they do go to college and get signed, they put their body through ten, fifteen years of abuse until torn ligaments and herniated spinal discs force them to retire. And then, unless they've made wise investments, they're ****ed because they don't know anything else. So they've got nothing but a possible painkiller addiction. Least that's what I observe.

[Antiyonder]

Sorry, but I have my own slant on that. I was teased viciously through junior high and most of high school, and I channeled that into a 4.0 GPA. I figured I would bust my ass, and someday they'd be pumping my gas and serving my food. When I was living up in Connecticut, I actually did have someone who used to tease me take my order at a Burger King. He never finished high school. In the end, everyone decides their own fate.

I suppose in that respect, the adage of "what goes around comes around" hold true. Look at most jocks. They're on the top rung in high school, and if they do go to college and get signed, they put their body through ten, fifteen years of abuse until torn ligaments and herniated spinal discs force them to retire. And then, unless they've made wise investments, they're ****ed because they don't know anything else. So they've got nothing but a possible painkiller addiction. Least that's what I observe.

I'm not saying that bullying always leads to school shootings, but just that it's one of the factors leading into them. My point is that being civil couldn't possibly lead to danger.

[Lightning Tiger]

does being selfish necesarily make you a bad person?

[RJVanSchaick]

I'm not saying that bullying always leads to school shootings, but just that it's one of the factors leading into them. My point is that being civil couldn't possibly lead to danger.

I'm not condoning bullying. Simply saying that the axe swings both ways. Based upon my own experiences, I can say that bullying is disgusting, but if someone does decide to buy a gun, no one is responsible for his choices except for him.

[Antiyonder]

I'm not condoning bullying. Simply saying that the axe swings both ways. Based upon my own experiences, I can say that bullying is disgusting, but if someone does decide to buy a gun, no one is responsible for his choices except for him.

And I'm not condoning the gun solution either, I'm just saying that school shootings would lessen if bullying was lessened. Don't condone either, just offering a solution.

[RJVanSchaick]

And I'm not condoning the gun solution either, I'm just saying that school shootings would lessen if bullying was lessened. Don't condone either, just offering a solution.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think schools have always had bullies. So why haven't we had shootings as long as we've had schools?

You're missing the point of what I'm saying. Bullying does not create school shootings. I went to high school in the 90s, I was a constant target for idiots, and I never murdered any of them. Instead, I got my revenge by applying myself academically. Most of the kids who bullied me never finished high school, and most of the ones who didn't finish have police records now.

In the end, we're all responsible for our own lives. If you want to blame anything, blame the fact that teachers are no longer allowed to discipline a lot of these bullies because they'll get sued by the kid's parents and reprimanded by the school board.

[Antiyonder]

In the end, we're all responsible for our own lives. If you want to blame anything, blame the fact that teachers are no longer allowed to discipline a lot of these bullies because they'll get sued by the kid's parents and reprimanded by the school board.

That's more along the lines of what I'm talking about. I believe the other factor is that teachers think it's best that students settle their own conflict.

Again, I don't condone or justify school shootings and I'm not saying that bully always leads to them. But anything you (not you in particular) can do to lessen the problem is just as good as doing nothing.

[Harvey Two Face]

I'm gonna go ahead and say I'm split on this topic, because half of me has good intentions and ambitions for the future and enjoys a comfortable life, this side of me being apparent >90% of the time, while the other side of me has unfit desires, evil ambitions for the future and downright damnable thoughts and ideas. Much like that Jekyll and Hyde sympton except I don't do drugs.

[Captain Zechs]

I'd say I am a bad person.

I am pretty greedy, I'll do anything to be in control of things, I use people for my own benefit, and I can be an ass.

In school I am liked, but I am very good at making people feel terrible if they ever catch me on a bad day or they just happen to piss me off.

I don't really ever care about other people, save for a handful of friends.

I could probably lie and make up some BS as to why I'm a good person, but I don't really mind being a bad one, it suits me just fine and I am pretty happy as of right now in my life.

[Dr.Pepper]

I'm a good person I guess. I put the wants of others in front of mine

[Darklordavaitor]

If you know me, you should know that by now...

[GWOtaku]

I would submit that there is no inherently good person. Man's sinful nature is a Christian teaching, but I don't need to cite the Bible to prove this. A man left alone, untaught, and unobserved is a barbarian. There is a reason we all need to be taught morality, to be taught standards of behavior, and to be taught to respect the boundaries of others. In contrast, when we were but children, we never needed lessons on how to misbehave.

The great gift to humanity, however, is that we have the freedom to choose to try to be better than what we are.

[purplehairedwonder]

I'd like to consider myself a generally good person though I'm well aware of the bad facets of my personality. For the most part, I put others before myself, don't break the law, take responsibility for my actions, and such.And if you aren't a religious person who believes that good deeds will be rewarded after you die, what keeps you from being bad? If you believe life itself has no consequences, what's to stop you from killing, stealing, etc?This question rankles me to no end. Without turning this into a religious debate, I'll say I'm an atheist but I'm moral. I consider how my actions will affect other people and base them on that - call it humanism if you will. I don't need to fear the afterlife to try to make this life good not only for myself, but those around me. I strive to live a fulfilling life here and now and the awareness of how I affect those around me goes a long way to shape how I live.

[Romanesque]

Anyone else get tired of the oft-parroted idea that a "fear the afterlife" is the only thing keeping religious individuals in check?

--Romey

[Antiyonder]

Anyone else get tired of the oft-parroted idea that a "fear the afterlife" is the only thing keeping religious individuals in check?

--Romey

Careful with the generalizations. Yes I'm a Christian myself, but even before that I was still generally morally conscious. The fear of the afterlife is sometimes used more as a tool for the religious extremists to convert others to religion. As long as a religious person doesn't blindy accept scriptures pertaining to moral guideline, then no harm no foul.

To add to the topic, I'm a goody good to a degree, but even then I have my failings (sneaking snacks before meals, putting off chores).

[Romanesque]

Careful with the generalizations.Not a generalization, just an observation. It's been said twice already, but I wouldn't have pointed it out if it weren't a common occurrence in such discussions.

The fear of the afterlife is sometimes used more as a tool for the religious extremists to convert others to religion.True, but that's not quite what I'm remarking upon, either.

Back to the initial post...

And if you aren't a religious person who believes that good deeds will be rewarded after you die, what keeps you from being bad? If you believe life itself has no consequences, what's to stop you from killing, stealing, etc?The first question, I'll agree, isn't really fair. Most religions will acknowledge, if you look closely enough, that even so-called "Heathens" don't need to be followers of your or anyone else's religion to be decent people. Heck, they might even be better than you. That's something of a hint, I'd think.

The second question should really be seen more as a philosophical question than as a religious question, but few are those who can stick to the question in terms of a thought experiment in the context of a larger conversation.

--Romey

[J'onn J'onzz]

I'm too irritable and cynical to be a truly good person. I consider myself a lot better than most of the people in my area, but I'm in Texas, so that doesn't take a lot.
I try my best to be a good person but it doesn't seem to help. I use to believe "what goes around, comes around" but it seems like when I try to be good, I get bad luck. And if you aren't a religious person who believes that good deeds will be rewarded after you die, what keeps you from being bad? If you believe life itself has no consequences, what's to stop you from killing, stealing, etc?
Statistically speaking, this is absolutely false. Religious people are more likely to be violent and criminal than atheists. There is no atheist bible for non-religious people to pervert.
Human nature, just won't happen.

But to get back to the original post, I see a lot of naivety in the original post, especially when it comes to the idea that you need to fear eternal damnation to not kill and steal. Many of histories most heinous crimes were carried out in the name of God.

Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda commit acts of terrorism, and murdered thousands of people in New York over six years ago in the name of their God.

Look at the Spanish Inquisition. Look at the Crusades. Look at any time a homosexual is brutally murdered. Look at Fred Phelps.

Human nature is human nature, people just look for an excuse. Or people restrain themselves for any number of reasons. You don't need religion for it.
I actually agree with you 100% on this.
Anyone else get tired of the oft-parroted idea that a "fear the afterlife" is the only thing keeping religious individuals in check?

--Romey
Even so, some religions think that belief that Jesus is your saviour will immediately get you to heaven, regardless of what your actions are on earth.

I was never a huge Robot Chicken fan, but I've always liked the skit where the guy ends up in heaven and there's a serial killing clown who got there because he repented.

[The Irishman]

I'd say I'm a genrally good person. Basically I think try and put myself in the other person's position, e.g. driving. If I drive like an idiot, how would that make others feel. Personally, bad drivers can ruin my day.

However, I think that overall, I'm like Lisa was in Dial N for Nerder. I may be nice 99% of the time, but I'm not averse to being devious when I feel it's warrented. A dangerous game yes, but one I can't help playing.

Treating other people just as you would like to be treated is often the best approach.

[RJVanSchaick]

That's more along the lines of what I'm talking about. I believe the other factor is that teachers think it's best that students settle their own conflict.

Again, I don't condone or justify school shootings and I'm not saying that bully always leads to them. But anything you (not you in particular) can do to lessen the problem is just as good as doing nothing.

It's not that teachers think students should settle their own conflicts. It's that the teachers' hands are tied. My grandmother was an elementary school teacher, and she's told me about how she used to spank her students when they misbehaved (and the child's parents approved of this; they gave her authority as disciplinarian while their children were on her time). Today, you can't get away with that. I've listened to my aunt, who's also a schoolteacher, talk about how she has no more authority in today's pussified, liberal system.

But, getting back to your original post, you say that part of stopping school shootings is understanding events leading up to them.

Sorry, but that's not always possible. Hell, look at Ted Bundy: model student, practicing Methodist, volunteer worker for a suicide crisis center, and serial murderer, rapist and necrophiliac.

There's no system to explain how people act. You decide your fate, pure and simple. That's what I've been saying, and I think it ties into the topic of this thread. No one makes you buy a gun. And if you can live with the consequences of your actions, well, it's your life, and no one can tell you how to live it except you.

[Antiyonder]

Sorry, but that's not always possible. Hell, look at Ted Bundy: model student, practicing Methodist, volunteer worker for a suicide crisis center, and serial murderer, rapist and necrophiliac.

You seem to be misreading my posts. Did I specifically say or imply that bullying is the sole solitary factor that leads to school shootings?

Nope I said it's one thing that can factor into them.

[Romanesque]

Statistically speaking, this is absolutely false. Religious people are more likely to be violent and criminal than atheists....and any attempt to argue otherwise will likely devolve into ugliness. I wonder, do you actually have such statistics, hand-picked historical anecdotes aside?

Unless you go out of your way to avoid religious people for fear of your own safety, I wonder how much you really take that to heart.

There is no atheist bible for non-religious people to pervert.Not all religions have bibles. Religious texts aren't the only source of ideologies to pervert, either.

I actually agree with you 100% on this.It's easy to justify your actions by attributing them to "God's Will", but it's not necessary...

Even so, some religions think that belief that Jesus is your saviour will immediately get you to heaven, regardless of what your actions are on earth.Denominations, technically... and I'm not so sure all members of such denominations take quite such a black and white approach to the matter. Even if they do, the reasoning is hardly simplistic.

--Romey

[Martianinvader]

...Not all religions have bibles. Religious texts aren't the only source of ideologies to pervert, either.

It's easy to justify your actions by attributing them to "God's Will", but it's not necessary...

Denominations, technically... and I'm not so sure all members of such denominations take quite such a black and white approach to the matter. Even if they do, the reasoning is hardly simplistic.

--Romey
Very darn true. There have also been many crimes (and even genocides) committed in the name of secular humanism or hatred for religion. A belief in NO god can be taken just as extreme.

Let's just settle this: PEOPLE are evil.

[RJVanSchaick]

You seem to be misreading my posts. Did I specifically say or imply that bullying is the sole solitary factor that leads to school shootings?

Nope I said it's one thing that can factor into them.

Well, what are some other factors? It sounded like you were saying that kids who are abused and degraded by their peers wind up bringing guns to school.

[Antiyonder]

Well, what are some other factors? It sounded like you were saying that kids who are abused and degraded by their peers wind up bringing guns to school.

What I meant is that it is one thing which can lead to a school shooting. Another one is mental illness.

Bottom line is that you misread my comment frequently. I'm fully aware that it is not always the case. I'm not looking for a debate. I just wanted to give my opinion, and clarify it.

[Wanted]

does being selfish necesarily make you a bad person?Yes. In the eyes of others.

Well, in my life I've found that people don't necessarily esteem other people who don't share. So, share what you can (paper and pencils and erasers) and keep the rest (more expensive, more valued items) for yourself. People should understand if you decide not to share your money... half of them would never pay you back, anyhow.

Just keep an eye on others when they use your stuff (if it's a marker you like, or something), so that they don't lose it. (I had that feeling that I should have kept an eye open once, and I didnt; consequently, a girl LOST MY SHARPIE PEN. I'm not mad at her or anything, though.) And, if they do, better hope it wasn't expensive. Trust is blind, but I'd rather trust and be trusted than trust no one.

There's a difference between selfishness and distrust, however. Don't share amongst groups. Ever.

And, keep your knowledge to yourself, unless it's for a Socratic seminar... or, if you're helping a friend out. Don't be TOO gratuitous.

[RJVanSchaick]

School shootings. While not always the case, one thing that can leading to shootings is that the kid going gun crazy was bullied frequently by classmates. Not justifying said kid's action, but part of solving a problem is understanding the events leading up to it.

I mean, when's the last time a kid went on a school shooting because his classmates help him with assignments, shared a bag of chips or loaned him a pen/pencil?

To look at it this way, if virtually everyone on the planet improved their civil behavior, then would any negative consequences (such as murder, theft, bombings, shootings, etc) occur as a result of said civility? Not that I could see. The only time I see conflicts to be necessary are simply for competition (spelling bee or game shows) or business.

Yeah, how could I possibly have misread what you were saying? Stupid, stupid me...

[Lightning Tiger]

Im probably a bad person.

Im very selfish, materialistic, and extremely shalow.

by selfish i dont necesarily just mean that i dont like to share (im okay with sharing), but i do want everything. Its more like puting myself before others most of the time and doing things for me and only me, and not caring wether or not other people are affected by things i do (things that mostly better myself or stuff i want). I also wont help people or do stuff for others or in the interest of others if it will somehow affect me negitavely (but if i can find a way to do it that wont i would help).

Im a liar and il say anything to get what i want and quite frankly i think deceaving people is very fun (manipulation is fun too).

I generaly view people who arent close friends as obsticals, pawns (or any other adjetive of something you can use for your own gain), sex objects (this doesnt include guys), or just plainly something that can be fun or amuse me:sweat:.

people also say that im Cynical and that its bad, but i have crapy vocabulary so i dont know what that means.

i guess i can best describe me as being extremly self centered

[Strollymonster]

I'd say that I act like a good person for the wrong reasons.

That is, I generally try to do the (usually little) things that make other people's lives easier. Just being generically nice, holding doors, etc. I also go out of my way to help people, but neither of these stem from an inherent desire to do good. Rather, it is to avoid the wrath of my conscience, which experience has shown me is an endlessly irritating source of guilt and depression. I act nice to placate my superego, not out of real concern for others.

That's not to say I don't have empathy. My philosophy is just to not cause people trouble or pain, because most people will know plenty of it without me contributing.

[Antiyonder]

Yeah, how could I possibly have misread what you were saying? Stupid, stupid me...

Read again carefully at the underline and bolded parts:

School shootings. While not always the case, one thing that can lead to shootings is that the kid going gun crazy was bullied frequently by classmates. Not justifying said kid's action, but part of solving a problem is understanding the events leading up to it.


Here's a concept, when reading a message, don't skim it and play the know it all routine. I'd would have simplified it them, but I like to assume that posters can read between the lines and not jump to conclusions.

[RJVanSchaick]

Read again carefully at the underline and bolded parts:

School shootings. While not always the case, one thing that can lead to shootings is that the kid going gun crazy was bullied frequently by classmates. Not justifying said kid's action, but part of solving a problem is understanding the events leading up to it.


Here's a concept, when reading a message, don't skim it and play the know it all routine. I'd would have simplified it them, but I like to assume that posters can read between the lines and not jump to conclusions.


Yeah, you wouldn't want anyone stealing your job, would you?

Because what I was arguing was that you seemed to be saying that people who commit school shootings aren't responsible for their choices. To be honest, I thought your reply to me was more civil before you went back and edited it.

[Tenku]

in-thread poke: For sake's guys, this isn't a thread to bash each others religion or on how they practice, lack thereof, etc. Next time it's the lock.

[Antiyonder]

Yeah, you wouldn't want anyone stealing your job, would you?

Because what I was arguing was that you seemed to be saying that people who commit school shootings aren't responsible for their choices. To be honest, I thought your reply to me was more civil before you went back and edited it.

Understanding the motives of a shooter aren't the same as condoning or absolving them of responsibility. I understand why some people resort to school shootings, but I do not sympathize or justify their decision.

I do apologize for the uncivil edit, and yes I might misinterpret someone's post, but I don't make it a habit. Let's say that you were the one to type a long drawn out opinion and someone misinterpreted it, and despite clarifying your stance were still misquoted, wouldn't you get fed up with that person taking your comments out of context?

To add more to my opinion though. Yes, having a zero tolerance policy on bullying wouldn't eliminate school shootings as a whole, but they were sure as heck lesson the problem. But that's another reason society struggles with morality. Because the mindset seems to be "If my actions won't solve the problem entirely, then it my actions are pointless". Contrary to that, lessoning the severity of a porblem is just as helpful as stopping the problem altogether.

[Captain Zechs]

Can we just drop this subject? There is no need to go back and reinforce any points regarding this argument, because they have already been made. Nothing good is going to come out of keeping that conversation alive, so stop bringing it back up.

Anyways...

1 good aspect of myself, if you are the right person I am very easy to get along with, I love to go out and have a good time, and I like to do crazy thing.

[Antiyonder]

Can we just drop this subject? There is no need to go back and reinforce any points regarding this argument, because they have already been made. Nothing good is going to come out of keeping that conversation alive, so stop bringing it back up.

No worrys. I'm done with that particular comment now and probably won't post here unless I can add anything else to this topic.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I am not a "good" person but I try to be an honorable person. I'm selfish and sometimes insensitive to other people. But when people are counting on me, I will try to do the "moral" thing. Unfortunately, I avoid being counted on so I guess most people will just think I am a prick, which is kinda true (but still a polite one, I shall add!). I will certainly do some questionable things to get my "piece of the pie" but it's usually a judgement call from moment to moment. The bigger the situation, the more I will lean towards my personal moral principles. For more trivial situations, I will let the devil come out and have some fun.

I disagree with GregX's overall outlook on life, but I do agree with him on a few things. I can't stand it when people try to make excuses for every action they do. You're either a killer or you're not. You either steal or you don't steal. You're either a bigot or you're not. There isn't a good excuse to justify most of your actions, so at least admit it if you're either one of these things.

[DBZNarutoWarrior]

I'd say that all in all I'm a good person. I enjoy helping people out which leads to being able to easily make friends just by talking to them once or twice. I love it because it's rewarding in getting to know everybody from every clique too. I never let people take advantage of me because I'm nice....not stupid. I feel that it's most rewarding to be good because people are much more likely to become friends with you.

[The Avatar]

I'd say that I'm sort of in the middle. When I was a little kid I used to be a goodie-two shoes. But as I got older, I realized that if you're too good, people are going to take advantage of you. So I decided I'd be better off if I let some bad seep into my personallity. Now I'm sort of in the middle. I sometimes do bad things to people if I'm in a bad mood or if the person pisses me off. However, I also like to help people out if they need it. So I don't know really.

[Angilasman]

I think I'm basically a good person. As with all human beings I predominently think about myself and what I want, but when a situation calls for elicting my empathy I am heavily concerned. I try to be nice to people and polite even if I know little about them or they are obnoxious or just plain bad. The reason? I believe Kurt Vonnegut said; "A little less love, a little more common decency." I can get behind that.

I'm a combination optimist/pessimist. The romantic ideas of optimism make me happy, but I have a chewy pessimist center. I'm also a pacifist. At least I say I am. I live so passively I haven't really put it to the test. I stand by it on general principle. I'm also an atheist if you wanna get all religious, but I like telling people I worship singer-songwriter Tom Waits.

[TyUnlimited]

I like to say I'm a good person. But really, I guess that whether everyone's good or bad depends on you views on what's "Right" and "Wrong"

I'm usually pretty laid back, so it takes a lot to make me really mad. I have a bad habit of helping anyone. No matter who it is. They can say, hey, "I need some help", and I'll help them immediately, no matter who they are.

I never really talk bad to anyone, and usually don't cause chaos.


Whether or not you think someone's good or bad really more depends on your own view of what's good or bad. (well, I believe)

[KPTitan]

Sorry, but I have my own slant on that. I was teased viciously through junior high and most of high school, and I channeled that into a 4.0 GPA. I figured I would bust my ass, and someday they'd be pumping my gas and serving my food. When I was living up in Connecticut, I actually did have someone who used to tease me take my order at a Burger King. He never finished high school. In the end, everyone decides their own fate.

That's almost exactly what's happening and what has been happening with me. When I told my psychologist about the bullying issues that I had to deal with from kindergarten up till now, she said that they'll "get theirs", in other words, basically the "what goes around comes around" thing that somebody mentioned here earlier. Come to find out, nearly over 90% of the kids that bullied me during my whole school life messed up their lives, from either getting held back, getting someone pregnant/getting pregnant themselves/STD's, getting in trouble from the law and school, and so on.

[Justice League 2000]

I am a Good Person. :)

[Juu-kuchi]

I'm a horrible person, however I try to improve.

[Wolfie~Giri]

I'm kind hearted but I don't act that way towards everyone. If someone is being a jerk I'll surely let them know.

[Desensitized]

I sure as hell am not a bad person, but would I be considered a good person? I don't know.

I just try to do the right thing in whatever situation I'm given. Whatever I'm considered to be by others is of no relevance to me.

[CartoonOverlord]

I'm not perfect, no one is, but I consider myself a fairly nice person overall. I'm nice and respectful to most people but I can be irritable and disrespectable sometimes. I'm rather lazy and can be stubborn at times, I can never hold a grudge though. I can never see myself really hurting anyone, I don't think I'd really forgive myself if I ever did that.

[DeadJohNNyAngel]

I am aware of morals quite clearly but that does not keep me from deviating toward sins now and then.

Sometimes I merely desire carnage and mercilessness for the fact that I have been known to as observed by others have a delightful tendency to sadism. I have a wicked if not gnarled sense of justice to those who do such horrific things such as exploit the innocence of children and animals, for exploitation of such innocence should leave room for all the most horrendous tortures imaginable.

I suppose one might call me an equal blend of the two: both good and bad qualities.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I'm a horrible person, however I try to improve.


Honesty. I like that in a person. :) ;)

[Nightflower]

I find that the older I get, the less of a good person I become. Or maybe I was never a good person and I'm only becoming more aware of it now. To be quite honest, I have a lot of negative qualities such as selfishness, cowardice, vanity and a quick temper. I think my problem is that all my emotions are so transparent that when I'm in a bad mood, everybody knows. :\

I'm working on it.

[PRdude]

I guess I'm a nice person, though there are some that don't think so. Then when you come right down to it, the only people who think I'm bad are the ones who never got to know me, or just like to get on my bad side.

[Sketch]

Every person when left to their own devices is likely to do something "bad" or at least "selfish". Humanity looks out for number one and it's very hard to break away from that.

What I believe entails that my faults are forgiven but I don't consider that a "get out of jail free card" and I constantly seek the forgiveness all over again.

There are some days that I'm a really "good" person. I try to be fair and unjudgemental, kind and caring and sympathetic to others but there are other days when I am a complete sack of crap. Mostly in reguards to what I say that could hurt others and making choices that only benefit myself when I could have helped someone else.

It all comes down to the choices we make. I will fully admit I do not always make the right choice. I'd say over the most recent years I haven't made the best choices I could have in more instances than I'd consider "reasonable". Everybody slips up but making the conscience decision to do something "questionable" or say something hurtful is not the same as a slip-up.

Much of society would consider me conservative because I rarely have alcohol at the age of 23, don't smoke, don't do drugs, don't have premarital sex or even devulge in pornography, don't steal other than the most common form of that act on the internet, keep a pretty clean mouth, and respect the authority figures in my life.

But someone with a conservative lifestyle can hurt another person just as easily as someone with a few inhibitions. I want to be able to love people like Jesus does but I cannot do that without Him and when I ignore Him and what I believe to be true I end up hurting others and acting selfishly in order to please myself at the moment. Some people would say that I'm not a bad person but I know in my heart when I have been a bad person and perspectives of others who say I've never been a bad person don't erase my conscience.

Every lie I speak takes a toll on my spirit. So much so that I constantly wonder why I ever lie, but sometimes it's easier in the moment and the fact that actually believe that a lie is easier than the truth at any given moment makes me disgusted with myself.

Sometimes I'm merely a facade. I create the image I want people to believe but I know in my heart what I really am and all I can do to face myself is to rely on He who strengthens me to overcome myself.