CN's site adds Transformers and George of the Jungle pages/videos

[Sketch]

Both have pages with character profiles and episode synopsises. Transformers seems to have 29 episodes listed. So I guess that would be 26 episodes plus a 3 episode special.

Both also have video clips on CN Video.

Interesting thing about both... they seem to have theme songs derived from their original theme songs. Personally I love the TF remake theme but I'll for warn you about the George of the Jungle one... it's got rap.

[Master Toon]

but I'll for warn you about the George of the Jungle one... it's got rap.

I'm not trying to start a rap debate and I don't even like rap but I heard the song and it's not that bad, it's not bad enough for someone to shun the entire show over. But if anyone here has a rap-phobia just don't look at the page.

[Tash]

Those Transformers descriptions really sound like Teen Titans plots. Teen Titans hit more than it missed, so I have no problems there.

George of the Jungle looks like it would be more at home on the Disney Channel, but I'll hold off on judgment until I see it.

[D Dubbs]

I'm not trying to start a rap debate and I don't even like rap but I heard the song and it's not that bad, it's not bad enough for someone to shun the entire show over. But if anyone here has a rap-phobia just don't look at the page. Yeah, I thought the song sounded find, too. Both the clips seemed decent enough, although I won't make final judgments until I see the specials.

[Dr.Pepper]

George of the Jungle looks like it belongs on Nick as one of those shows that they play for a month than get rid of. Oh yeah and the drumming on the butt in the themesong ... yeah that was appealing:shrug:

[Ar3d]

George of the jungle was wacky and crazy show but i first see it it in an movie played by brendan Fraser...

[Sprocket]

I actually like Derek Wyatt's character designs, but holy god, Mook's animation usually looks better than this. The line weight is horribly inconsistent, and the frame-rate is low as hell compared to Teen Titans, or Legion of Super Heroes, or the Baaaaatmaaaan, or Ben 10, or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Now don't get me wrong, it's the most entertained I've been by a single scene of a Transformers TV show since Beast Wars, but you'd think the animation studio that brought us Swat Katz, the Real Adventures of Johnny Quest (both second seasons), and Scooby Doo on Zombie Island would be able to animate a little better than this.

[DrTooth]

A) Who designed CN's video player? it's a total piece of crap. it got 2 seconds into the visdeo, and it started skipping like mad. Way to fend off the illegal youtubers, CN.

B) George of the jungle is even more attrocious than I thought it would be. he doesn't even talk like George of the Jungle. Jay Ward, Paul Frees and Bill Scott are at eternal unrest for this. The theme song is the only relatively decent thing about it. BOOOOOO!

[Sketch]

It doesn't make any sense why they don't adapt the AS Video set up to CN Video and Jetstream. While Jetstream and CN Video do run well if you have a very fast connection to most users (and Mac users which can't watch at all) they have issues. AS Video runs on Mac and runs better on most computers in general. It's Flash video and it's obvious CN should convert Jetstream and CN Video to that format as well but there are piracy obstacles with flash video. Then again... I've seen people rip stuff from Jetstream as well. So it doesn't really matter. They should make them all flash video like the AS video site.

Ah well...

[Taylor Karras]

Who designed CN's video player? it's a total piece of crap. it got 2 seconds into the visdeo, and it started skipping like mad. Way to fend off the illegal youtubers, CN.

Actually. Who designed the player for the streaming sites owned by Turner. You forget to mention that Toonami Jetstream and Adult Swim Fix use the same players.

[DrTooth]

Actually. Who designed the player for the streaming sites owned by Turner. You forget to mention that Toonami Jetstream and Adult Swim Fix use the same players.

Then how do you explain the fact that the Adult Swim video page runs as smooth as a seal, while the CN and Jetstream players get 1 second into the vid before hacking up?

[Silverstar]

The new George of the Jungle looks like Dave the Barbarian to me, while the new Transformers looks too much like Teen Titans. But I'll hold off on commenting on either special/pilot until after I've seen them.

BTW, I'm kind of sorry to see that Arcee won't be on the new Transformers. One gripe I had about the movie was that the robots' roster was just a boys' club. But they do have that weird-looking girl Sari, so I guess that's something...

[Taylor Karras]

Then how do you explain the fact that the Adult Swim video page runs as smooth as a seal, while the CN and Jetstream players get 1 second into the vid before hacking up?

I don't know. They all use Windows Media Player to ask the content, but Adult Swim Fix probally uses FLV instead of WMV.

[Kitschensyngk]

The new George of the Jungle looks like Dave the Barbarian to me

I agree, and I've seen very little of Dave.

[Raditz]

Transformers Animated looks horrid, Animation Wise.
George of the Jungle looks like it belongs on the Disney Channel.

Yep, CN screwed up again.

[Mugen]

Transformers Animated looks horrid, Animation Wise.
George of the Jungle looks like it belongs on the Disney Channel.

Yep, CN screwed up again.

I think we should wait for the shows to air first before judging them.

[Raditz]

I think we should wait for the shows to air first before judging them.

I actually don't need to, Looks-wise at least.

[Master Toon]

I actually don't need to, Looks-wise at least.

Well I think Mugen meant quality-wise. I don't know why, maybe I'm weird, but I can enjoy a show even if the animation sucks. It's all about how the show makes me feel and not how it looks.

[danreyes1]

I will give both series a chance. I don't have high hopes, though. Even though I'm a big TF fan, the new style of the series still has me skeptical. And I was never a fan of GotJ, so I don't see a new, modernized version grabbing my attention.

[StellaMagic]

I wonder when they will add Blackarachnia's profile. I can't wait until future seasons of this show. Imagine what it would be like if they added Silverbolt to the show. It would be the Romeo & Juliet concept between him and Blackarachnia all over again.

[Kazuya Prower]

I don't think Jay Ward would've have liked the George of the Jungle Christmas special if he was still around since its not ANYTHING like the original.

[Razor]

I wonder when they will add Blackarachnia's profile. I can't wait until future seasons of this show. Imagine what it would be like if they added Silverbolt to the show. It would be the Romeo & Juliet concept between him and Blackarachnia all over again.

To be honest, I hope they don't.

Though if you want more indepth character bios, including Blackarachnia, go here: http://community.livejournal.com/tf_animated/5507.html#cutid1

[AdamYJ]

The new George of the Jungle looks like Dave the Barbarian to me,

I always figured that George of the Jungle was partially responsible for inspiring Dave the Barbarian. They're both essentially parodies of old pulp fiction concepts with leads who've been given mundane names. In one you've got the cunning jungle man reduced to a naive doofus and in the other the brave barbarian was made into a scaredy-cat.

I'll give it a try because I liked the original, however after seeing the clip from the Christmas Special the only thing I can think of is that it needs more bad puns. In a Jay Ward derived project, bad puns should always be present. At least maybe on this version of George of the Jungle, they might not repeat jokes too much. The old one used to repeat jokes all the time.

Transformers looks cool to me. Better than many of the recent versions I've seen. I like the small cast of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Prowl, Ratchet and Bulkhead. It seems like a good mix of personalities. There'll probably be a lot more Transformers coming because there always are, but it seems like a solid group for the beginning.

[Silverstar]

Transformers looks cool to me. Better than many of the recent versions I've seen. I like the small cast of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Prowl, Ratchet and Bulkhead. It seems like a good mix of personalities. There'll probably be a lot more Transformers coming because there always are, but it seems like a solid group for the beginning.

I too like the idea of a small intimate group of Transformers, though I already have issues with the lineup they went with. Plus, the art, animation and some of the characters resemble Teen Titans too much for my tastes. Based on what I've seen, I'm getting a huge Beast Boy vibe off of Bumblebee, and that's not a good thing, IMO, since Beast Boy was one of the most annoying characters on TT. I'm also not thrilled that we're not getting Arcee (since she was left out of the movie altogether; I already don't like the idea that all of the heroes are guys except for the little girl, who seems to basically be an April O'Neil) or Jazz (yeah, I like Jazz, so sue me!).

But, as previously stated, I try not to pre-judge a show before I've seen it. I plan to watch the special; whether I watch anything after that remains to be seen.

[AdamYJ]

I too like the idea of a small intimate group of Transformers, though I already have issues with the lineup they went with. Plus, the art, animation and some of the characters resemble Teen Titans too much for my tastes. Based on what I've seen, I'm getting a huge Beast Boy vibe off of Bumblebee, and that's not a good thing, IMO, since Beast Boy was one of the most annoying characters on TT. I'm also not thrilled that we're not getting Arcee (since she was left out of the movie altogether; I already don't like the idea that all of the heroes are guys except for the little girl, who seems to basically be an April O'Neil) or Jazz (yeah, I like Jazz, so sue me!).

But, as previously stated, I try not to pre-judge a show before I've seen it. I plan to watch the special; whether I watch anything after that remains to be seen.

I liked Teen Titans, so I'm cool with the comparisons. In terms of animation and art design, it seems like the next logical step. First was G1 with the old, choppy '80s animation. Then came G2, which was the old G1 show set inside
computer animated transitions. Next was Beast Wars, which was all computer animated. Then came Armada, Energon and Cybertron which were generally computer animated robots set to a traditionally animated anime background. So, the fluid, sort-of-anime but not really Cartoon Network Teen Titans style is a decent choice for what comes next. I'm kind of afraid the next one may have to be stop-motion to keep the trend going though. :p

Anyway, Arcee and Jazz may show up eventually. Jazz is cool, but doesn't have the same vibe without Scatman Crothers' voice. The Transformers kind of have a long history of starting as a boys' club. How long did it take for Arcee to show up in the original show? It didn't take quite as long for Airrazor to show up on Beast Wars, but her presence was kind of short-lived and had little impact. It would be nice to have Arcee though. Her "movie-verse" toy looks pretty cool.

One thing I think is cool is how they have the whole "rescue vehicle" theme going this time. Optimus is a fire engine. Ratchet's an ambulance. Prowl's a police motorcycle. Bumblebee's an unmarked police car. Bulkhead's a SWAT truck. I know a lot of people will likely be upset that Optimus is a fire engine rather than a tractor-trailer, but I think it works. I mean, when someone sees a fire truck, they think of action, courage and heroism. When they see a tractor-trailer, they think of CB radio, paunchy truck drivers and the "honk if you're horny" hand signal. :D :p

[D Dubbs]

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So, looks like Transformers will be taking one of Ben 10's spots on Dynamite Action Squad. Seems like they have high hopes for the show.

[Mugen]

Of course they would have high hopes for the show.:p The live-action movie did well and Cartoon Network Studios worked on the new show, so they have a stake in it.

Anyway, smart move, putting it after Ben 10.

[.bg]

I was very disappointed to find that Transformers wasn't the original. Boo! :(

[Razor]

Why would they put on a twenty year old cartoon?

[.bg]

Kids would still watch it, the '80s are back in style, and wasn't the movie supposed to be based on the original cartoon?

[Razor]

The movie is based on the original cartoon, yes, but it's horribly dated and it shows, right down to the character archetypes and the animation errors.

[Silverstar]

Why would they put on a twenty year old cartoon?



Why wouldn't they? Goosebumps is a 10 year old show, and CN shows that. At least Transformers is a cartoon.

[Razor]

That's a bit different. Goosebumps shows a lot less age, and doesn't come off of a series of productions that have made an effort to fix a lot of what didn't work back when G1 was on.

Edit - what's more, you can't sell toys of an old cartoon.

[Master Toon]

kids would probably want to see a Transformers show full of action and excitement. I'm not saying the old one wasn't, but compared to today's animation it probably wouldn't do so well.

[DrTooth]

The new George of the Jungle looks like Dave the Barbarian to me, while the new Transformers looks too much like Teen Titans. But I'll hold off on commenting on either special/pilot until after I've seen them.

Say what you will about transformers, at least it doesn;t totally deviate from the original concept in such a disgusting way. And saying that actually is an insult to Dave the Barbarian... which was actually pretty good. They made George way too nervous and twitchy. That's not George at all. George never even shrugged before he crashed into a tree. And he's talking normally. "we made you Eggnog?" NO! It's "George make Ingrid Eggnog." "George!! It's Ursula." "If Ingrid not want any, just have to say it."

And his voice is terrible. They couldn't contact Corey Burton or Keith Scott? I can understand forsaking June Foray for a younger sounding actress, but that's just wrong.

[AdamYJ]

Say what you will about transformers, at least it doesn;t totally deviate from the original concept in such a disgusting way. And saying that actually is an insult to Dave the Barbarian... which was actually pretty good. They made George way too nervous and twitchy. That's not George at all. George never even shrugged before he crashed into a tree. And he's talking normally. "we made you Eggnog?" NO! It's "George make Ingrid Eggnog." "George!! It's Ursula." "If Ingrid not want any, just have to say it."

And his voice is terrible. They couldn't contact Corey Burton or Keith Scott? I can understand forsaking June Foray for a younger sounding actress, but that's just wrong.

Maybe they're trying not to play up the whole "Johnny Weismuller" part of the Tarzan parody this time. It's those old Weismuller movies that really ingrained the whole "monosyllabic jungle man" thing into the public consciousness. You're right about George's attitude, though. He was the original Mr. Easygoing.

Also, I think what he'd probably say is "George made Fella eggnog." :D

[G1Ravage]

That's a bit different. Goosebumps shows a lot less age, and doesn't come off of a series of productions that have made an effort to fix a lot of what didn't work back when G1 was on.


Edit - what's more, you can't sell toys of an old cartoon.


Sure you can.

Hasbro had been doing so for the past few years, selling their re-issues of the G1 toys.

I'm sure some of today's kids picked them up as well. Their alternate-mode designs are top-notch, even by today's standards.

[Blackstar]

Well, G.I. Joe is an action cartoon that was designed to sell a lot of toys. Not exactly the same thing as George of the Jungle. However, kids are still buying Looney Tunes and "classic" Disney" merchandise 50 years later, so your point is valid. Really, it depends on the popularity and longevity of said show.