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oldcbsfan
11-25-2007, 02:25 PM
Every Sunday CN has a marathon. Last Sunday was the ''Tom and Jerry Super Sloppy Sunday''. Today is ''Silly Billy Sunday'', a marathon featuring Billy and Mandy episodes.

Umandsf
11-25-2007, 03:58 PM
And next Sunday is What's New, Scooby Doo? What's your point?

Master Toon
11-25-2007, 04:05 PM
It would be better if you add something to your post like if you like them or hate them or if you're wondering why they are having these marathons.

kirschy
11-25-2007, 04:08 PM
Personally I don't mind the Sunday marathons too much. However I'm getting annoyed about the Saturday ones. Especially the Ben 10 ones which serve no other purpose but to advertise the Ben 10 Live-Action movie.

oldcbsfan
11-25-2007, 06:22 PM
They seem pretty good. But annoying.

DBZNarutoWarrior
11-25-2007, 07:07 PM
Personally I don't mind the Sunday marathons too much. However I'm getting annoyed about the Saturday ones. Especially the Ben 10 ones which serve no other purpose but to advertise the Ben 10 Live-Action movie.

Yeah one marathon a week is PLENTY, I'd rather have them Sunday (although if you are at home and have to watch t.v. there is nothing on so the marathons are no help on Sundays really). I don't really watch CN during the week, only on the weekends. I basically watched on Saturdays during the day for a couple of shows, then I watch Toonami too. Now that they have marathons of lackluster shows on Sundays, I think I won't watch CN on a rainy Sunday either I'd rather watch a dvd IMO:p ....

Dr.Pepper
11-25-2007, 07:46 PM
I think that these Sunday marathons are plenty enough. I hate the weekday ones.

Thunderstarwarp
11-26-2007, 06:47 PM
Well I can see how that can be irritating to have a marathon of a show every Sunday. But I am in America and well...we don't have that. But all I am saying is I can understand how that can be very annoying. (At one time it was a DBZ marathon every Saturday.--Not to mention that it was the same episodes. Thank God that they did it only for a month and a half. I would have lost it if they did that any longer.--)

Darklordavaitor
11-27-2007, 10:58 AM
I was just about to make a topic about this. I've been noticing that Sundays on CN are for marathons now. Here's a question: Do these marathon give CN ratings? Does anyone have the ratings for last week's Billy & Mandy jam? Or the week before's Tom & Jerry? Or the week before that's Ed, Edd, 'n Eddy? Are the ratings for these marathons that signifigantly different from the rest of the week? Or will CN just become an 18-hour-long marathon channel?

hobbyfan
11-27-2007, 03:44 PM
CN needs to stop with the marathons. They do too many, and recycle the same eps over and over again. They can claim ratings as an excuse all they want, but some of us old school fans would rather see some diversity in the lineup. Preferably......now.

Mugen
12-01-2007, 03:04 PM
I was just about to make a topic about this. I've been noticing that Sundays on CN are for marathons now. Here's a question: Do these marathon give CN ratings? Does anyone have the ratings for last week's Billy & Mandy jam? Or the week before's Tom & Jerry? Or the week before that's Ed, Edd, 'n Eddy? Are the ratings for these marathons that signifigantly different from the rest of the week? Or will CN just become an 18-hour-long marathon channel?


While the Billy and Mandy one didn't do that great, the previous ones did pretty good. Sunday is usually CN's highest rated day for ratings, so yeah the marathons seem to be working.

Darklordavaitor
12-01-2007, 03:35 PM
While the Billy and Mandy one didn't do that great, the previous ones did pretty good. Sunday is usually CN's highest rated day for ratings, so yeah the marathons seem to be working.
I see. Let's see what half-baked marathon suggestions CN comes up with. But, does What's New, Scooby-Doo do well enough for CN to take a chance here?

D Dubbs
12-01-2007, 03:48 PM
I see. Let's see what half-baked marathon suggestions CN comes up with. But, does What's New, Scooby-Doo do well enough for CN to take a chance here?

Well, the show seems to be doing pretty well. On weekdays, it has three airings a day, and one of those airings is in prime time.

Noelle
12-01-2007, 05:45 PM
I like that they do marathons but saying that I don't like every cartoon they have had in a marathon. I liked the tom and Jerry ones and will also watch the scooby doo one. It's something to watch when there is nothing else on on a Sunday. :)

Antiyonder
12-01-2007, 08:09 PM
Would it really kill them to at least use the marathons to try bringing more programs back to their network? Some shows for instance that I have in mind:

- Tom & Jerry Kids (It would actually compliment A Pup Named Scooby Doo).
- Jonny Quest/New Adventures/Real Adventures (Would help hype up the movie and would be good to air with Scooby Doo, since Secret Saturdays is suppose to incorporate elements of those shows)
- The Batman (To coincide with The Dark Knight and because it out lasted many KidsWB shows by 13 episodes).

Really, it's it seems like they're embarassed for having a huge library of cartoons. At least Nickelodeon finds an excuse for theirs to air.

Taylor Karras
12-02-2007, 02:41 AM
Would it really kill them to at least use the marathons to try bringing more programs back to their network? Some shows for instance that I have in mind:

- Tom & Jerry Kids (It would actually compliment A Pup Named Scooby Doo).
- Jonny Quest/New Adventures/Real Adventures (Would help hype up the movie and would be good to air with Scooby Doo, since Secret Saturdays is suppose to incorporate elements of those shows)
- The Batman (To coincide with The Dark Knight and because it out lasted many KidsWB shows by 13 episodes).

Really, it's it seems like they're embarassed for having a huge library of cartoons. At least Nickelodeon finds an excuse for theirs to air.

Yeah, You got the two commonly played cartoons and you get some cartoons that would never survive due to a lack of sucess due to Spongebob.

Antiyonder
12-02-2007, 07:31 AM
Yeah, You got the two commonly played cartoons and you get some cartoons that would never survive due to a lack of sucess due to Spongebob.

Tom & Jerry Kids is that one cartoon that was on Fox Kids, which included segments by Droopy and his son. I'm guessing you were talking about the series on KidsWB. If so, then get your facts straight before putting someone down.

Plus The Batman palys once a week, not my definition of commonly played. It had to have done something right if it made it to 65 episodes, something that many of the other KidsWB didn't do.

Besides, I'm not really convinced that The Batman failed. They probably just pulled it because it didn't produce the godly trendlike ratings.

cartoon_crazy130
12-03-2007, 03:44 AM
I guess I don't have a major problem with the marathons.:shrug: i did watch some of the Scooby - Doo marathon.

Draft
12-03-2007, 12:07 PM
Would it really kill them to at least use the marathons to try bringing more programs back to their network? Some shows for instance that I have in mind:

- Tom & Jerry Kids (It would actually compliment A Pup Named Scooby Doo).
- Jonny Quest/New Adventures/Real Adventures (Would help hype up the movie and would be good to air with Scooby Doo, since Secret Saturdays is suppose to incorporate elements of those shows)
- The Batman (To coincide with The Dark Knight and because it out lasted many KidsWB shows by 13 episodes).

Really, it's it seems like they're embarassed for having a huge library of cartoons. At least Nickelodeon finds an excuse for theirs to air.

It could come back to weekdays of the 3 Hour Weekly Scooby doo block does well, but i'm gona guess no. It airs on Boomerang BTW

The movie hasn't even been fofficially confirmed with any cast or director, and the writer's strike has further increased the delay. And Jonny Quest doesn't have the kid appeal Scooby Doo or Billy and Mandy do. Also airs on Boomerang (Not Real Adventures though)

The Batman is currently on Boomerang, and it has been given 2 chances to air on Toonami, but failed

And it's kind of unfair to compare the library of CN and Nick, since Nick has about 50 total shows, and CN has upwards of 400 thanks to Hanna-Barbera, Accquasistions, and the Old Shorts. If you mean originals, I guess Nick has that won since most of their shows air on Nicktoons Network (Thoguh you could argue that most of the CC's air on Top 5/Cartoon Cartoons)

Antiyonder
12-03-2007, 12:28 PM
Keep in mind, that Boomerang is hard to come by, even if some have a good load of money.

The movie hasn't even been fofficially confirmed with any cast or director, and the writer's strike has further increased the delay. And Jonny Quest doesn't have the kid appeal Scooby Doo or Billy and Mandy do. Also airs on Boomerang (Not Real Adventures though)

How can they be sure if it hasn't aired on basic cable for awhile? That's like a bookstore filling their inventory of everybook but Sci-Fi, and then deciding that Sci-Fi doesn't sell well. A product/show has to be available before deciding that the audience doesn't like it.

Unless of course, JQ aired on Cartoon Network recently. If a show is lacking in availability, then of course many children aren't going to see it. So all the execs are doing are making faulty assuptions. It's the same reason why kids barely pick up comics, because your only choices are Hastings or an out of the way comic store.

That's why I suggest they use the marathons as a testing ground for other programs. Because then if they failed, it would at least be definative proof that the viewers hate different things.

The Batman is currently on Boomerang, and it has been given 2 chances to air on Toonami, but failed

A. Considering that Toonami airs at a time when most of it's audience is out, again it's merely the network making a flimsy assumption.

B. And again, how exactly did the show fail? Lack of stable ratings or it didn't become a trend overnight?

And it's kind of unfair to compare the library of CN and Nick, since Nick has about 50 total shows, and CN has upwards of 400 thanks to Hanna-Barbera, Accquasistions, and the Old Shorts.

My point is that while Nick or Nicktoons doesn't air their classics as often, they don't seem to view them as a burden whereas again Cartoon Network seems to be ashamed at owning that many cartoons. What I believe to be their thought on classic cartoons:

"If our viewers knew that we had 400 cartoons available, we'd be the laughing stock of children's entertainment".

Draft
12-03-2007, 01:17 PM
You can find Boomerang on Many Cable On Demands. And many people have Dish Satellite or Direct TV

But the thign is, CN appaently gets good ratings on Sunday. Why jeopoardize it with a show that they tried to air twice but failed (The Batman) or a show which came out 40 years ago and most liekly will fail with children (Jonny Quest). Not to mention that it would be easier for CN to pick up the New Tom and Jerry Series, and get mroe ratings for it.

With your logic about Jonny Quest, you could say that the Josie and the Pussycats movie wouldn't have been made, but it was. Plus, CN uses things called focus groups, to see if kids like certain things or not. That's one of the reasons why when Time Warner boguht it they shoved everything they were airing to another network that gets less homes. And i'll give you some evidence of Jonny Quest's success. Whe nthey released the first voluem ,a 2nd was never considered..

A. I don't get this point. do you mean that CN aired it at a bad time? Cause it aired at the 8 hour when it aired, and it was removed both times, which is assumed for low ratings. The first time it aired, it got very decent promotion toom but it just vanished for over 2 years, and then returned for a month to replace Fantastic Four, and it went to Boomerang. You could compare that to the Fantastic Four! series (Except it went to SatAM and vanished).

B. It is assumed it was ratings.

view their cartoons as a burden? Look at Nick, they freaken sold the rights to one of their cartoons to a rival company, and sold the DVD rights of another.

I don't get how they would be ashamed. Sure they don't air all of them, because some don't get as good ratings as others, but they have been releasing many of them on DVD, something Nick never has but only for theri most successful properties.

Antiyonder
12-03-2007, 01:34 PM
A. I don't get this point. do you mean that CN aired it at a bad time? Cause it aired at the 8 hour when it aired, and it was removed both times, which is assumed for low ratings. The first time it aired, it got very decent promotion toom but it just vanished for over 2 years, and then returned for a month to replace Fantastic Four, and it went to Boomerang. You could compare that to the Fantastic Four! series (Except it went to SatAM and vanished).

Ok, if the timeslot wasn't the issue, then how long did the show play out before it was removed both times? More than 6 weeks?

B. It is assumed it was ratings.

Were they expecting it to be a mere success, or a fullblown fad? I mean if the show was lacking stable ratings, I could understand removing it, but if it's because it wasn't producing the same ratings as Dragonball Z/GT (What they were airing at the time), then I find it to be a poor choice of judgement.

That's why Fantastic Four didn't last, because it didn't get the same ratings as Naruto. Look, if a show is a hit within a short amount of time, then great. But expecting all shows to be a fad is an unhealthy expectations.

If CN had that mindset back in the 90s, then Ed Edd and Eddy would have been canceled in the first season. That's right, it wasn't top of the charts back then, but it had stable ratings. And stable ratings should be the guidelines for keeping a show, as opposed to it being a fad.

Taylor Karras
12-03-2007, 02:20 PM
Tom & Jerry Kids is that one cartoon that was on Fox Kids, which included segments by Droopy and his son. I'm guessing you were talking about the series on KidsWB. If so, then get your facts straight before putting someone down.

Plus The Batman palys once a week, not my definition of commonly played. It had to have done something right if it made it to 65 episodes, something that many of the other KidsWB didn't do.

Besides, I'm not really convinced that The Batman failed. They probably just pulled it because it didn't produce the godly trendlike ratings.

I was talking about the Nickelodeon comment you made.

Antiyonder
12-03-2007, 02:28 PM
I was talking about the Nickelodeon comment you made.

But you were talking about two cartoons commonly played, so I figured you mistook Tom & Jerry Kids for Tom & Jerry Tales.

D Dubbs
12-03-2007, 08:24 PM
- The Batman (To coincide with The Dark Knight and because it out lasted many KidsWB shows by 13 episodes).

Even on Kids' WB! with new episodes, The Batman is getting less than average ratings. There's absolutely no way that CN will even consider airing the show anymore.