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sun
10-08-2007, 10:55 PM
POLLUTION AFFECTS YOU, EVEN WHEN YOU THINK IT DOESN'T

Suppose you live in upstate New York, and you think it doesn't affect you?
Well, a power company, by polluting the air, can actually destroy the mountains area you live in. Even the Statue of Liberty..Read on..

Here is a story, about a company that will be paying a huge fine, for the pollution that it causes outside the area. What do you think?

WASHINGTON AP.- One of the nation’s largest power generators has agreed to end a years-long federal lawsuit by paying $4.6 billion to reduce pollution that has eaten away at Northeast mountain ranges and national landmarks, The Associated Press has learned.The settlement requires American Electric Power, based in Columbus, Ohio, to reduce chemical emissions that cause acid rain by at least 69 percent over the next decade.
It also fines AEP an additional $15 million in civil penalties and another $60 million in cleanup and mitigation costs to help heal parkland and waterways that have been hurt by the pollution.

Details of the agreement were provided by two people familiar with its terms who spoke on condition of anonymity Monday because it had not yet been filed in federal court. Spokesmen for AEP declined comment Monday.
The Justice Department and the Environmental Protection Agency (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21198255/#) also declined comment.
The settlement marks one of the largest government fines in an environmental case. By contrast, Exxon Mobil Corp. estimates it has paid $3.5 billion in cleanup costs, government settlements, fines and compensation for the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. The company is fighting an additional $2.5 billion in punitive fines.
Eight states, a dozen environmental groups and the EPA brought the lawsuit against AEP in 1999, accusing the energy company of rebuilding coal-fired power plants without installing pollution controls as required under the Clean Air Act (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21198255/#).
Acid rain problems
Environmentalists blame acid rain caused by coal-fired power plants for plaguing the Northeast over the last quarter-century, including damage that has eaten away at the Statue of Liberty and the Adirondacks mountain range in upstate New York. Smog and acid rain have been linked to sulfates and nitrates that are products of coal-fired plants.
AEP has more than 5 million customers in 11 states. It has agreed to clean up 46 coal-fired operations in 16 of the plants in its eastern system — a group likely to include at least nine plants in Ohio, Indiana, Virginia and West Virginia.

Kury Wagner
10-09-2007, 01:13 AM
Do we really need another one of these threads? Just know that the second something gets out of line, it'll be closed. I suggest everyone watches their words.

Harvey Two Face
10-09-2007, 05:46 AM
I really don't care anymore humanity and the Earth are in trouble in the next 50 years because of our own ignorance, careless mindset and the fact that the governments all tell us that they are doing things to "improve carbon emissions" etc but in truth we are doomed race.

peacebyanymeans
10-09-2007, 06:15 AM
Pollution is great.


Keeps you on your toes.

Lazerboy5000
10-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Well, it is something to be concerned about, becuase pollution is thining the Ozone in the atmosphere. But new inventions and ideas like Hybrid cars, and helping reduce the pollution count. I'm sure it's fine, but it's something we may need to watch closely.

Shawn Hopkins
10-09-2007, 12:11 PM
You're a little misinformed, Lazerboy. In fact, the ozone layer depletion is a problem that could hopefully be on its way to improvement, thanks in part to an international treaty that calls for a reduction in the manmade chemicals that cause it.

The same thing could happen with the problem you are probably thinking about, manmade global climate change. But it'll take the same kind of international agreements, not just a guilt campaign that encourages a few people to buy hybrid cars.

Sun is right, though. I don't see any spaceships or any other habitable planets, so we have to take care of the Earth the best we can.

Lazerboy5000
10-10-2007, 07:26 AM
You're a little misinformed, Lazerboy. In fact, the ozone layer depletion is a problem that could hopefully be on its way to improvement, thanks in part to an international treaty that calls for a reduction in the manmade chemicals that cause it.

The same thing could happen with the problem you are probably thinking about, manmade global climate change. But it'll take the same kind of international agreements, not just a guilt campaign that encourages a few people to buy hybrid cars.
You're probably right, I am a little misinformed. I haven't talked about this topic in quite sometime, so my understanding could have been a little shaky.

But I get what you're saying. I sort of remember something about that international treaty.

As for the climate change, I've got most the facts...
1) Ozone thinning increases global tempatures.
2) Increasing global tempatures causing Ice to melt (like glaicers)
3) Insreased fresh water count stalls underwater ocean current...
4) ...which does not regulate tempatures (that means that warm places get warmer, and cold places get colder)
5) And the extreme cold parts of the world could cause the next Ice Age.

Facts curtesy of Naked Science (my favorite show on National Geographic Channel)

Shawn Hopkins
10-10-2007, 12:39 PM
You're probably right, I am a little misinformed. I haven't talked about this topic in quite sometime, so my understanding could have been a little shaky.

But I get what you're saying. I sort of remember something about that international treaty.

As for the climate change, I've got most the facts...
1) Ozone thinning increases global tempatures.
2) Increasing global tempatures causing Ice to melt (like glaicers)
3) Insreased fresh water count stalls underwater ocean current...
4) ...which does not regulate tempatures (that means that warm places get warmer, and cold places get colder)
5) And the extreme cold parts of the world could cause the next Ice Age.

Facts curtesy of Naked Science (my favorite show on National Geographic Channel)

Sorry, you must have been watching it wrong. The biggest suspect in the increase of global temperatures is carbon dioxide, not so much ozone thinning. The ozone layer protects us from the more harmful radiation from the sun that causes skin cancers and such.

Lazerboy5000
10-10-2007, 02:28 PM
Sorry, you must have been watching it wrong. The biggest suspect in the increase of global temperatures is carbon dioxide, not so much ozone thinning. The ozone layer protects us from the more harmful radiation from the sun that causes skin cancers and such.
Well yea, that too.

I guess I'm starting to get Pollution mixed in with Global Warming.

NintyScreen
10-10-2007, 08:35 PM
Do we really need another one of these threads? Just know that the second something gets out of line, it'll be closed. I suggest everyone watches their words.

Isn't it ironic that he's actually doing pollution right now?