The year for sci-fi junkies- apparentely alternate universes exist

[HellCat]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=paUniverse_sun14_parallel_universes&show_article=1&cat=0

So many possibilities. It really has been the year for sci-fi fans. We've been right all along.

[The Falcon]

comparing an alternate universe to a coin-flip. lol

interesting theory, though i'm still not quite grasping the mathematical properties of it. so, what they're saying is that if my reality, where my being a toon zone mod, a college graduate and an outstanding lover, is heads, then the alternate me had the coin land on tails and he's none of the things listed above? such as that one episode of futurama, i guess. always liked that episode

[Captain Highwind]

I'm going to laugh when the sum of alternate universes ends up being just two.

[veemonjosh]

Wow, and here I thought that my phasing in and out of this universe and into another one was just me losing my mind.

Though, I'd really fangasm over and over if there's a digital world of some sort. :anime:

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I believe it, much more than I believe in the possibility of time-travel (although I do dream about time-travel a lot) I've considered the idea that since there are multiple possibilities out there when it comes to individual decision making, it's very possible that trillions of parallel universes exist.

The question is whether one can interact or actually enter into a parallel universe. And how "our" universe manages to stay unified with all the branch outs you get at different junctions of time by every person on earth making a decision every second in our universe.

Ummm...yeah.

It would also confirm that everything and everyone in this universe is in fact unified and that each person has a certain amount of power to change the universe, all the time, every microsecond of every day. Of course, to prevent anyone from feeling too special, everyone else also has this power, and some people, to varying degrees, more power than others.

Actually, it's quite possible that this kind of power scares me which is why I'm so indecisive and commitment phobic...LOL

[GWOtaku]

I hate to play skeptic since the idea of this is fascinating, but as near as I can tell this is saying that there's a rational explanation for alternate universes. We have to find a way to actually observe an alternate universe to be sure the idea is valid, no?

Even so...cool. Suddenly the entire premise of Noein on Sci-Fi channel doesn't seem so insane, does it? :anime:

[HellCat]

I hate to play skeptic since the idea of this is fascinating, but as near as I can tell this is saying that there's a rational explanation for alternate universes. We have to find a way to actually observe an alternate universe to be sure the idea is valid, no?

Even so...cool. Suddenly the entire premise of Noein on Sci-Fi channel doesn't seem so insane, does it? :anime:

*puts on old divers suit* Right, your job is to pitch me into the void. When I find the universe with Miri, yank us both back.

[Elven Moon]

I'm a little (or a lot) confused (science and math do that :sweat: ). So, am I to believe that there is actually another me in some other universe? Maybe good looking, or even a pop star? Or another universe where America DIDN'T win the Revolution? Stuff like that?

[Bubblegum Girl]

That's neat. I always wonder that for everything that might or might not happen it'll end up as some alternate universe. Though I always wonder about the alternate universes that were created from major events in time that end up with different outcomes.(Like the Dinosaurs didn't become extinct or Christopher Columbus didn't discover America, etc.)

All this talk of alternate universe is making me miss Sliders.

[The Falcon]

Maybe good looking...not unless you did something to yourself in this universe to drastically alter your appearance

[Zeonic Freak]

So in an "parrallel universe", i wouldnt have had an accident yesterday on my way to church, which ment i wouldnt have messed up my drivers side bumper because the lady decided to go left when i had the right of way but i messed up her left fender and drives side door, and i wouldnt have had to call my insurance company and hers to get my claim filed.

So i suppose that makes me fell somewhat better...:anime::shrug:

[purplehairedwonder]

This is such a fascinating idea. I suppose at this point it's impossible to prove that it's true, but there are a lot of theories that we can't technically prove. Though when you start to think about it, it really makes your head hurt.
It would also confirm that everything and everyone in this universe is in fact unified and that each person has a certain amount of power to change the universe, all the time, every microsecond of every day. Of course, to prevent anyone from feeling too special, everyone else also has this power, and some people, to varying degrees, more power than others.*rubs temples* Ow.
All this talk of alternate universe is making me miss Sliders.QFT

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Wow, so there's an alternative universe out there where all of my many screw ups never happened?

Neato.

Not to mention the ones where Gundam SEED Destiny has a good ending and Bleach is on Toonami, X-Men Evolution, JCA and JLU didn't get canceled, Death Note had a better ending, and DeFillipis and Weir still write New X-Men.

And yes, that was one of the first things I thought of.

[Hanshotfirst113]

Wow, so there's an alternative universe out there where all of my many screw ups never happened?

Assuming you exist, it's probably a universe where you like the Harry Potter films and I defend Michael Bay :p.

Bleach is on Toonami

For the love of god, don't start.

X-Men Evolution, JCA and JLU didn't get canceled

And wher Marvel animation is actually available on DVD. What's JCA?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Assuming you exist, it's probably a universe where you like the Harry Potter films and I defend Michael Bay :p.

Oh dear Yggdrasil.

Only if this is the universe where the Harry Potter movies don't cut anything out from the books.:p

And wher Marvel animation is actually available on DVD. What's JCA?

Jackie Chan Adventures

[purplehairedwonder]

Only if this is the universe where the Harry Potter movies don't cut anything out from the books.:pThat would be the universe where they're also 37 hours long ;)
Death Note had a better endingThat would be this one, my friend :p

But this is neither here nor there... relatively speaking.

[HellCat]

People, finding the Miriverse is the key here. Focus, please.

[Kury Wagner]

That's a pretty nifty theory. Dunno that I could really take stock in it, but it's fun to imagine.

Though, I'd really fangasm over and over if there's a digital world of some sort. :anime:Rofl. That'd be too awesome. xD

People, finding the Miriverse is the key here. Focus, please.Moar liek finding the one where I rule you all. Don't worry, HC, you'll be one of my most prized henchmen. We'll even find some lovely ladies that you can have cosplay as Miri. A new one each night, perhaps? Oh, ho ho... you stud. /nudges.

[purplehairedwonder]

People, finding the Miriverse is the key here. Focus, please.While you're finding that one, I'll be looking for the Bishieverse. I'm the Fangirl Queen in that one, after all.

[EinBebop]

New bumper sticker: 'My Earth-2 car is a Porsche.'

[Swordfish_II]

If there's an infinite number of parallel universes, an infinite percentage of them are infinitely boring.

[Rolling Cloud]

People, finding the Miriverse is the key here. Focus, please.

Gotta be careful how you phrase that, otherwise you could wind up in the Meer-a-verse! D=

[Jave]

In a parallel universe, this theory would be bogus.

[Captain Highwind]

The question is whether one can interact or actually enter into a parallel universe. And how "our" universe manages to stay unified with all the branch outs you get at different junctions of time by every person on earth making a decision every second in our universe.


I do recall many years ago in astronomy class about the idea of black holes being potential wormholes, to what we do not know.

Too bad everything gets smashed into a singularity beforehand. :\

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Wow, so there's an alternative universe out there where all of my many screw ups never happened

There are probably an equal number of universes where you screwed up worse. Hell, you might have even died 10 years ago because you didn't look both ways before you crossed the street.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

There are probably an equal number of universes where you screwed up worse. Hell, you might have even died 10 years ago because you didn't look both ways before you crossed the street.

Yeah, but that's more depressing to talk about. Then again, at least I can feel good that I didn't do that badly.

I wonder if there's a parallel universe where Jack Thompson is the gaming industry's biggest lobbyist and Al Kahn dedicates himself to starting a wave of anime which retains all Japanese culture.

[Bubblegum Girl]

QFT
QFT? Sorry but I'm not really good with the internet abbreviations...:sweat:

[Desensitized]

QFT? Sorry but I'm not really good with the internet abbreviations...:sweat:
"Quoted For Truth."

I like the idea of parallel universes. I always thought I'd look great in a cowboy hat.

[Startrekman700]

I have always believed that alternate universes exist. Quantum Theory states that there are 2 alternate states of matter. One the present state and another a state that it would have been in. This is called the stroger theory. This theory was proposed by a man named Stroger who used a cat (figuately, not literal) to display his idea. He states that in one universe, the cat who would have been put into a box with a bowl of poison, dranked the poison and died in one universe and not drinked the poison in another.


I do recall many years ago in astronomy class about the idea of black holes being potential wormholes, to what we do not know.

Too bad everything gets smashed into a singularity beforehand. :\


No you don't. All you really have to do is repolarize the phased sub-space nucleon generator. This will cause a phase shift in the molecular state of the ship or system you are in. This shift will create a phased feedback resonance effect that will reflect the crushing back to the black hole.:D :p

[Harvey Two Face]

I too have always believed in alternate universes on basis off watching too many sci-fi shows as well as going through quantum physics every so often, so imagine every event in your life has had a different consequence.

[BCVM22]

This is called the stroger theory. This theory was proposed by a man named Stroger who used a cat (figuately, not literal) to display his idea. He states that in one universe, the cat who would have been put into a box with a bowl of poison, dranked the poison and died in one universe and not drinked the poison in another.

Schrödinger's cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schroedinger%27s_cat), not Stroger.

Reading this news story puts me in crisis.
...

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

[veemonjosh]

QFT? Sorry but I'm not really good with the internet abbreviations...:sweat:

And there's an alternate universe where you are good with internet abbreviations. :p

[Meson]

The multiverse (all the universes including ours and the void between them) has been a major part of physics for the last 10 years or so. Glad that it is finally going mainstream.

Besides quantum mechanics, parallel universes are the back bone of M-Theory (String Theory, Super Graivty, etc), the Theory of Everything, some black hole effects, and cosmology, and many others.

It's been proposed that our universe was created when two other universes colided with each other. The Big Bang truely was a big bang.

These other universes range from something like ours to simple sheets of energy. This stuff is the very edge of modern physics.

A simple googling of the subject is a mind-opener.

Remeber, we all have an inifinite number of ourselves

[Gatomon41]

It's been proposed that our universe was created when two other universes colided with each other. The Big Bang truely was a big bang.

Which is really smore speculation than fact. The Membrane impact is based on a hypothesis that would force us go the scale of Pallanck's lengths to even comfirm this. To examine something that small you nneed a particle acclerator the size of the diameter of the Solar System. I'm rather skeptical myself on that one.

Now if you will excuse me, I need to Slide with Quin Malory into the Digital World to help Albert Einstein fight the Soviet Armies from a paralell universe where Hitler disappeared before he fromed the Nazi Party.

[Pomegranate]

So, if alternate universes do really exist, then there could possibly be a great alternate universe known solely as The Lord Galactiverse and these following events listed below could've occurred and made my life a living heaven in the process.

1. I was the sole creator and owner of Disney and all their stakes/shares, thus I was known as Walt Disney in this alternate dimension of mine! Under my full control, Disney has always focused on original creations, organic business growth and ethical business practices, making them the most likable and wealthiest corporate entity of all time.

2. Cartoon Network, MTV and all other TV networks always stay true to their brand names and original purposes no matter what!

3. Foreign programming was never bowdlerized in the USA.

4. 4Kids, like Disney, always focuses on original creations and organic business growth and they were fierce rivals with Disney because of this. In this alternate universe of mine, they're actually a subsidiary of a company known as the "Tike Foundation" and the "Tike" part of the media conglomerate's name was named after its 4 founders: Jack Thompson, Bob Iger, Alfred R. Khan and Michael Eisner.

5. Toei was always friendly to its fans and they never partnered up with the likes of 4Kids, DiC or Disney.

6. Time Warner actually supports Turner, which gives them full access to the WB archives at anytime.

[BCVM22]

So, if alternate universes do really exist, then there could possibly be a great alternate universe known solely as The Lord Galactiverse and these following events listed below could've occurred and made my life a living heaven in the process.

That universe did exist; I destroyed it with my Time Displacement Core.

;)

[Gatomon41]

I'm preety sure that in reality, most of these universes will have laws of physics that will be so radically different it would be almost impossible to imagine.

[Don_East]

People, finding the Miriverse is the key here. Focus, please.

Good luck with that. I want to go to the Marvel-verse, so I can find the Watcher & force him to give me a map of every known universe. From there I'll try to find the universe Bleach exists in, get the Delorean from the BTTF universe, travel 3 years into the future, and well, take a wild guess what I do then. ;)

[HellCat]

Good luck with that. I want to go to the Marvel-verse, so I can find the Watcher & force him to give me a map of every known universe. From there I'll try to find the universe Bleach exists in, get the Delorean from the BTTF universe, travel 3 years into the future, and well, take a wild guess what I do then. ;)

Open a chain of frozen yoghurt stands?

[Don_East]

Open a chain of frozen yoghurt stands?
That's not so bad of a idea either. I'll set that as plan B.

[Dark Fact]

In alternate universe Japan, anime draws YOU!

[Ickis]

I ain't a sci-gi junky but I've always felt that other realities existed, they're probably a bit more complex though than just alternitive outcomes to our events. Maybe theres a reality where cartoons are actual living beings! If there is one I'm sure my minds travelled off into it before in a dream.

[Pomegranate]

That universe did exist; I destroyed it with my Time Displacement Core.

;)

Nope! I deflected the blast back at you, vaporizing your worthless ass in the process;) !

Anyways, I wanted to revive this thread, so I'm going to post more events that would happen in a perfect alternate universe.

7. This is a strange one, but News Corp. and Saban both don't exist at all. However, the Fox brand exists as a Disney creation. As a wholly-owned Disney subsidiary, Fox always tries their hardest to provide the best-quality family entertainment known to man with the regular Fox network airing family-oriented TV-G programming and the Fox Kids Network airing TV-Y and TV-Y7 programming aimed towards children 12 and under.

8. Viacom has a lot of respect for the integrity of anime, other types of acquisitions and artsy media, so they've landed the 60-year long worldwide controlling rights to the Super Sentai, World Masterpiece Theater anime series and the Studio Ghibli library in the early 90s. They also co-produced the Kingdom Hearts franchise with Square-Enix and Nintendo. They're also the sole reason why all the Studio Ghibli films grossed over $800 million in the USA box office.

9. Nickelodeon was never "The First Kids' Network", which Fox Kids was known as instead, nor did it cater only to children 12 and under. Nick's line-up was still primarily youth-oriented, with target audiences ranging from tweens to college-age adults(ages 18-30), and the programming was usually rated TV-Y7, TV-PG and TV-14, including sitcoms, teen dramas, 100% faithful dubs of anime and other foreign cartoons and artsy programming.

10. Following #9, Nick was one of the top-rated TV networks in history with the help of Rugrats, Sailor Moon, Hey Arnold, the World Masterpiece Theater anime series, the Tenchi Muyo anime series, Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, Digimon, Inuyasha, Super Sentai, Avatar, Skyland, Danny Phantom, Studio Ghibli properties, Aardman properties, Classic Paramount shorts, Terrytoons, Osamu Tezuka properties, Degrassi, Pretty Cure, Ojamajo Doremi, Hamtaro, Sazae-san, The Simpsons, Futurama, King of the Hill, Doraemon, Pucca, Ah Megumi-sama/Oh My Goddess!, Bandai properties, Gonzo properties, Archie Comics properties, a TV-PG Kingdom Hearts anime series and a TV-PG reincarnation of Betty Boop known as "Betty Boop's Sexy Escapades"!

11. Nintendo owns ABC, Pixar, ESPN, Miramax, the Muppets, Club Penguin and all the other IPs Disney has ever acquired in our reality. Also, Nintendo owns Soapnet, Lifetime, Hollywood Pictures, Touchstone Pictures and all the other adult labels Disney has ever owned in our reality.

[The Wolverine]

^ What.

[Pomegranate]

^ What.

Enough of this foolishness of yours! The thread is about the possibilities of completely different events occuring in alternate universes that might exist in real life and about also what events TZers wish would occur in an alternate reality they find in real life. For instance, HSM never existed in my alternate reality because Disney Channel was always geared towards children and their entire families instead of just youths.

[HellCat]

Actually, it's a more discussion of a scientific theory and a bit of jokey banter mixed in. The thread isn't really here for folks to rattle off their dream realities.

[Romanesque]

Actually, it's a more discussion of a scientific theory and a bit of jokey banter mixed in. The thread isn't really here for folks to rattle off their dream realities.There seems to be an ever so slight gap between intent and result, though... :p

I'm actually rather disappointed in the article, as it doesn't report anything meaningful. So they showed, mathematically, that branching can explain probabilistic quantum observations... and? I'm sure they've done useful work, but do we actually get to hear anything from it? Nada. I see no indication that they've nailed down an interpretation of branching, nor have they actually proven that alternate universes (in the quantum sense) exist, as the article's title suggests.

A search for the physicist in question brings up years worth of work, and the guy's own page suggests he'd be disappointed in the way this was reported. Giving the wrong idea devalues the actual accomplishment.

--Romey

[Jyose]

I'm preety sure that in reality, most of these universes will have laws of physics that will be so radically different it would be almost impossible to imagine.

I read a book by Arthur C. Clark that mentioned objects that were spherical, but measured in such a way that pi was exactly 3. It's the subtle differences like that that would bug the hell out of me. Olives? on a taco? this is the strangest universe ever.

Like the episode of Futurama. I gotta get me some pirate universe.

[Romanesque]

I'm preety sure that in reality, most of these universes will have laws of physics that will be so radically different it would be almost impossible to imagine.There may be universes like that (or just a single universe like that, in some theories), but the alternate universe's being referenced here definitively obey the same physics as ours, the only difference being outcomes of events (quantum events specifically).

--Romey