Josie and the Pussycats on Laff Lympics question

[zoombie]

As some of you know, the cast of Josie and the Pussycats were suppose to be on the Laff A Lympics show, but legal reasons prohited it.

I heard some where, that not only were Josie, Melody, and Valerie going to be on the show, but also Alan, Alexender, Alexandra, and Sebastain.

The same place I heard about this, said they were all going to be on the Scooby Doobies team.

First question, is this true, was the whole cast?

Second question, wouldn't is make more sense for Alexandra and Sebastain to be on the Really Rottens team? The nature of characters were to be sneeky, unethically, and underhanded, exactly the way the Really Rottens approach things.

Or they could be on the Scooby Doobies team, and be paid spies for the Really Rottens, and try to sabotage their own team every episode on behalf of the Really Rottens.

[Blackstar]

As some of you know, the cast of Josie and the Pussycats were suppose to be on the Laff A Lympics show, but legal reasons prohited it.

I heard some where, that not only were Josie, Melody, and Valerie going to be on the show, but also Alan, Alexender, Alexandra, and Sebastain.

The same place I heard about this, said they were all going to be on the Scooby Doobies team.

First question, is this true, was the whole cast?

Second question, wouldn't is make more sense for Alexandra and Sebastain to be on the Really Rottens team? The nature of characters were to be sneeky, unethically, and underhanded, exactly the way the Really Rottens approach things.

Or they could be on the Scooby Doobies team, and be paid spies for the Really Rottens, and try to sabotage their own team every episode on behalf of the Really Rottens.

Answer to question #1: No. Alan M. (Josie's would-be boyfriend) was also in the main cast.

Answer to question #2: Even though Alexandra was a jealous, spoiled brat, she was never evil, per se. She still traveled with the gang and never turned against them. She didn't want to rule the world. She was just envious of Josie and wanted Alan all to herself.

Anyways, the Laff-A-Lympics episodes were never that plot heavy. the comic books based on the series were more story oriented than the show itself was.

[zoombie]

Answer to question #2: Even though Alexandra was a jealous, spoiled brat, she was never evil, per se. She still traveled with the gang and never turned against them. She didn't want to rule the world. She was just envious of Josie and wanted Alan all to herself.



Well the Really Rottens were the same way. They just wanted to win the weekly competition, and would cheat to do it. Not evil. Like I said on another thread, I rooted for them to win, because they rarely won. Just like Alexandra, not evil, just mischeves. So I think in the same boat when it comes to what types of characters they are.

[Jave]

Answer to question #2: Even though Alexandra was a jealous, spoiled brat, she was never evil, per se. She still traveled with the gang and never turned against them. She didn't want to rule the world. She was just envious of Josie and wanted Alan all to herself.Actually, in one episode, the gang was supposed to take a private plane to their next concert, but Alexandra rigged the schedules so the gang would board the wrong plane (Alan M included) that would leave them in the middle of the Amazon Jungle. She planned on making up a new group starring her and have no competition, but her plan backfired as Alan M and Alexander forced her into the plane as well.

Also note that when the gang found out what Alexandra did, she felt absolutely no remorse, and the gang wasn't the least bit surprised. In fact one of them said, "Not again", or something to that extent.

[Blackstar]

Unfortunately, we'll never know for sure because the Josie characters are/were owned by Archie comics, and so H-B couldn't use them without going through legal red tape trying to get their permission. My guess is that the Teen Angels (Brenda, Dee-Dee and Taffy) were brought onto the Scooby Doobies' team to replace Josie Valerie and Melody, and that Daisy Mayhem was added to the Really Rottens' team to replace Alexandra.

FTR, Jeannie (from the H-B series Jeannie) was going to be on the Scooby team also, but Columbia Pictures owns the I Dream of Jeannie franchise. Babu form Jeannie made it to the final lineup because he was an original character created by H-B.

[zoombie]

Actually, in one episode, the gang was supposed to take a private plane to their next concert, but Alexandra rigged the schedules so the gang would board the wrong plane (Alan M included) that would leave them in the middle of the Amazon Jungle. She planned on making up a new group starring her and have no competition, but her plan backfired as Alan M and Alexander forced her into the plane as well.

Also note that when the gang found out what Alexandra did, she felt absolutely no remorse, and the gang wasn't the least bit surprised. In fact one of them said, "Not again", or something to that extent.

I always wondered why Josie and everyone put up with her. Maybe they just don't see her as a smart enough threat to really succeed in her scemes. That has to be a little insulting, in that your arch enemy, sees you as a zero of a threat, that she still allows you to hang around with her. Like be spoted 19 points, in a first to 20 points win game.

[TnAdct1]

Unfortunately, we'll never know for sure because the Josie characters are/were owned by Archie comics, and so H-B couldn't use them without going through legal red tape trying to get their permission. My guess is that the Teen Angels (Brenda, Dee-Dee and Taffy) were brought onto the Scooby Doobies' team to replace Josie Valerie and Melody, and that Daisy Mayhem was added to the Really Rottens' team to replace Alexandra.

FTR, Jeannie (from the H-B series Jeannie) was going to be on the Scooby team also, but Columbia Pictures owns the I Dream of Jeannie franchise. Babu form Jeannie made it to the final lineup because he was an original character created by H-B. Also, Dick Dastardly and Muttley were originally planned to be part of the Really Rottens (with Muttley as the team captain). Unfortunately, since the characters were currently joint owned by both Hanna-Barbera and game show production company Heatter-Quigley, the rights to use the two couldn't be cleared in time, with Mumbley and Dread Baron being created to take their places.

[greg!]

Alexander & Alexandra were brother & sister. Since he was the manager of the group, he probably had to put up with her tagging along. For the most part, she was the one who got them out of trouble, even though most of the trouble was, initially, caused by her anyway. Alexandra was really the star of the show, Josie was usually just in the background. Sherry Alberoni, originally of the Mickey Mouse Club, did an excellent job on her voice.

[SF4Ever]

Also, Dick Dastardly and Muttley were originally planned to be part of the Really Rottens (with Muttley as the team captain). Unfortunately, since the characters were currently joint owned by both Hanna-Barbera and game show production company Heatter-Quigley, the rights to use the two couldn't be cleared in time, with Mumbley and Dread Baron being created to take their places.

If Warner Brothers Animation could produce the Laff-a-lympics today, Dick Dastardly and Muttley would be leading the Really Rottens(they'd likely be voiced by Jim Cummings, who has been Dick Dastardly's voice for nearly a decade, succeeding Paul Winchell, and Muttley would likely be voiced by Corey Butron). Dick Dastardly, Muttley and the Rottens would diabolically scheme against Scooby-Doo's Scooby Doobys and Yogi Bear's Yogi Yahooeys teams, during each event.

[hobbyfan]

Well the Really Rottens were the same way. They just wanted to win the weekly competition, and would cheat to do it. Not evil. Like I said on another thread, I rooted for them to win, because they rarely won. Just like Alexandra, not evil, just mischeves. So I think in the same boat when it comes to what types of characters they are.

Which would explain Lt. Mumbly, a cop, being on the team? Implausibility never sleeps, it seems.

[Zen Man]

I was thinking about the show and the amount of characters on each team and I always felt they were a little unbalanced. I think the Yogi's had like sixteen players total while the Scoobies and Rottons each had thirteen total. I think it would've been cool if they maybe added Jabberjaw, Buford and Nugget Nose to the Scooby Doobies and three additional characters to the Really Rottons.Just to even things out.

Just a minor quark of mine, but still a great show.

[Silverstar]

I was thinking about the show and the amount of characters on each team and I always felt they were a little unbalanced. I think the Yogi's had like sixteen players total while the Scoobies and Rottons each had thirteen total. I think it would've been cool if they maybe added Jabberjaw, Buford and Nugget Nose to the Scooby Doobies and three additional characters to the Really Rottons.Just to even things out.

Just a minor quark of mine, but still a great show.

Buford and Nugget Nose on the Scooby Doobies team would've been impossible. Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics debuted in 1977. Yogi's Space Race didn't premiere until 1978. Plus, they were on different networks: Laff-A-Lympics was on ABC, Yogi's Space Race was on NBC.

[Jeff Harris]

Also, Dick Dastardly and Muttley were originally planned to be part of the Really Rottens (with Muttley as the team captain). Unfortunately, since the characters were currently joint owned by both Hanna-Barbera and game show production company Heatter-Quigley, the rights to use the two couldn't be cleared in time, with Mumbley and Dread Baron being created to take their places.I always wanted to know the origin behind Mumbley. What I find weird is that Mumbley is a detective, a good guy on his own show, and yet saddled with the Really Rottens.

But the original question . . . it kind of makes me curious about the origin of the whole Teen Angels series as well since, well, the Angels took the Pussycats' place and premiered along with Laff-A-Lympics. HB wanted to cash in on the big shows of the time yet again, in this case Charlie's Angels. Aaron Spelling, Columbia, whoever owned the original series didn't want Hanna-Barbera or anyone to adapt the then-young series right away, so they did a patache of sorts, utilizing the types that made the HB/Ruby-Spears detective shows such a hit(the blonde, the smart girl, and the coward) and gave them that Charlie's Angels sex appeal.

Taffy. Dee-Dee. Brenda.

Oh, and that fuzzy caveman with the big stick.

[SF4Ever]

I always wanted to know the origin behind Mumbley. What I find weird is that Mumbley is a detective, a good guy on his own show, and yet saddled with the Really Rottens.

But the original question . . . it kind of makes me curious about the origin of the whole Teen Angels series as well since, well, the Angels took the Pussycats' place and premiered along with Laff-A-Lympics. HB wanted to cash in on the big shows of the time yet again, in this case Charlie's Angels. Aaron Spelling, Columbia, whoever owned the original series didn't want Hanna-Barbera or anyone to adapt the then-young series right away, so they did a patache of sorts, utilizing the types that made the HB/Ruby-Spears detective shows such a hit(the blonde, the smart girl, and the coward) and gave them that Charlie's Angels sex appeal.

Taffy. Dee-Dee. Brenda.

Oh, and that fuzzy caveman with the big stick.

The fuzzy caveman with the big stick is Captain Caveman of Scooby-Doo's Scooby Doobys team.

[STARTOUNZ]

I always wanted to know the origin behind Mumbley. What I find weird is that Mumbley is a detective, a good guy on his own show, and yet saddled with the Really Rottens.

But the original question . . . it kind of makes me curious about the origin of the whole Teen Angels series as well since, well, the Angels took the Pussycats' place and premiered along with Laff-A-Lympics. HB wanted to cash in on the big shows of the time yet again, in this case Charlie's Angels. Aaron Spelling, Columbia, whoever owned the original series didn't want Hanna-Barbera or anyone to adapt the then-young series right away, so they did a patache of sorts, utilizing the types that made the HB/Ruby-Spears detective shows such a hit(the blonde, the smart girl, and the coward) and gave them that Charlie's Angels sex appeal.

Taffy. Dee-Dee. Brenda.

Oh, and that fuzzy caveman with the big stick.


As indicated Josie and the Pussycats couldn't be used because they weren't originally HB characters. Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels were and the fact is they were a better fit for the Scooby Doobies team as they were in the category of crime fighters and mystery solvers. The Pussycats just thwarted plots of various megalomaniacs. As for Mumbly, they needed someone who wasn't as famous as Scooby or Yogi to represent the bad guys, and since he had many similarities to Muttley, they likely had them become brothers from the same litter and drop out of the detective business. It might be indicated that Dick Dastardly and Dread Baron are brothers as well and adopted their respective dogs.

[Silverstar]

As indicated Josie and the Pussycats couldn't be used because they weren't originally HB characters. Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels were and the fact is they were a better fit for the Scooby Doobies team as they were in the category of crime fighters and mystery solvers. The Pussycats just thwarted plots of various megalomaniacs.

True, but Tinker and Speed Buggy weren't professional crime-solvers either; they likewise just stumbled upon nefarious plots. Furthermore, Babu didn't solve crimes or mysteries, even accidentally, on his show.


As for Mumbly, they needed someone who wasn't as famous as Scooby or Yogi to represent the bad guys, and since he had many similarities to Muttley, they likely had them become brothers from the same litter and drop out of the detective business. It might be indicated that Dick Dastardly and Dread Baron are brothers as well and adopted their respective dogs.


In the Laff-A-Lympics comic books series, it was stated that Dick and Dread were in fact, twin brothers, and Muttley and Mumbly were cousins.

[Jeff Harris]

The fuzzy caveman with the big stick is Captain Caveman of Scooby-Doo's Scooby Doobys team.I know. I was being facetious.

Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels were and the fact is they were a better fit for the Scooby Doobies team as they were in the category of crime fighters and mystery solvers. So were Super Snooper and Blabber Mouse, but they were on the Yogi Yahooeys.

Speaking of the Yogis, what I don't understand is why was Hong Kong Phooey, an upright anthromorphic dog, is on the Scooby-Doobies rather than the other anthromorphic characters on the Yogi Yahooeys? I mean, seriously, wonder how Scooby-Doo and Scooby-Dum looked at their teammate who not only stood upright but also didn't have an owner.

Must be like how Pluto looks at Goofy.

[Zen Man]

Buford and Nugget Nose on the Scooby Doobies team would've been impossible. Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics debuted in 1977. Yogi's Space Race didn't premiere until 1978. Plus, they were on different networks: Laff-A-Lympics was on ABC, Yogi's Space Race was on NBC.

I guess if the characters had been created prior to the Laff-A-Lympics it would've been possible. But it was possible for Jabberjaw to join the Scoobies since he had been around for awhile.

[Eric B]

As indicated Josie and the Pussycats couldn't be used because they weren't originally HB characters. Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels were and the fact is they were a better fit for the Scooby Doobies team as they were in the category of crime fighters and mystery solvers. The Pussycats just thwarted plots of various megalomaniacs. As for Mumbly, they needed someone who wasn't as famous as Scooby or Yogi to represent the bad guys, and since he had many similarities to Muttley, they likely had them become brothers from the same litter and drop out of the detective business. It might be indicated that Dick Dastardly and Dread Baron are brothers as well and adopted their respective dogs.
True. Putting Josie and the Gang in would have been like putting Fred and the girls from Scooby in, Or Ranger Smith. As it was, in that respect, the Teen Angels were even pushing it, as well as Cindy Bear.

If they wanted a snickering mutt, they could have used one of his predecessors, such as Precious Pup, whose goodness/badness was at best, ambiguous. It would have been nice to see him losing all the time. But they completely skipped over that mid to late 60's period for the Laffalympics.

I know. I was being facetious.

So were Super Snooper and Blabber Mouse, but they were on the Yogi Yahooeys.

Speaking of the Yogis, what I don't understand is why was Hong Kong Phooey, an upright anthromorphic dog, is on the Scooby-Doobies rather than the other anthromorphic characters on the Yogi Yahooeys? I mean, seriously, wonder how Scooby-Doo and Scooby-Dum looked at their teammate who not only stood upright but also didn't have an owner. I always noted that Hong Kong Phooey was more like the less-realistic HB animal characters in the Yogi's, than the rest of the "realistic" Scoobies, but the reason why he was in the Scoobies and Snooper and Blabber were in the Yogi's ultimately would be a combination of the period they were from ("Yogi and Friends" era of the early 60's, or "Scooby"-esque "crime solvers" era of the 70's), plus the fact that Hong Kong Phooey was a more serious crime solver, (like Scooby) while Snooper and Blabber was still a more of Yogi-style slaptick comedy like all the other cartoons from that period.
Then, you have Grape Ape, which was from the 70's. I see that when they run it as part of the Zoo, and as I don't pay much attention to the stories, I'm trying to remember if they catch bad guys. I think they do. But it still seemed to be more of a comedy show, like Snooper and Blabber. Just the fact that this is the only 70's(or later) show they play in the Zoo illustrates Grape Ape's tie to the "Yogi" circle.

And speaking of misplaced characters, it is obvious that Snagglepuss, if he was in a team would be in the Yogi's, but for Mildew Wolf, who's always sneering "savages!" at the Rottens, shouldn't talk like that; for guess which team he would have been in if he weren't an annoucer!

[zoombie]

I got the Josie DVD, and there is one episode Alexandra showed a nice side in her own weird way. The episode "Swat Plot Flop", Alexandra, Alexander, and Melody are discuessed as heirom girls, and the villain said Alexander's dancing was ugly, and a ugly woman. Alexandra stands up for him and says "Ugly? That girl is my brother, and all our Cabat's are beautiful." That was kind of sweat in its own weird way, but it blow the gang's cover, as usual Alexandra temper or scheme got everyone in trouble. And through out the series she shows that she does care for Sebastin.

As someone earlier said, and I always thought, Alexandra is a non evil antagonist. But so are the Really Rottens.

[RAINMAN]

I was thinking about the show and the amount of characters on each team and I always felt they were a little unbalanced. I think the Yogi's had like sixteen players total while the Scoobies and Rottons each had thirteen total. I think it would've been cool if they maybe added Jabberjaw, Buford and Nugget Nose to the Scooby Doobies and three additional characters to the Really Rottons.Just to even things out.

Just a minor quark of mine, but still a great show.


Yogi team had so many people they could have started a football team. The really rottons didn`t seem to have no more then 10. No wonder they were always cheating.:sweat:

[Zen Man]

Yogi team had so many people they could have started a football team. The really rottons didn`t seem to have no more then 10. No wonder they were always cheating.:sweat:


The Rottons had a total of 13 players as well as the Scoobies while the Yogi's had 16.