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John Dorian
08-15-2007, 01:18 PM
You want to know something else? Blake, the host of Fried Dynamite thought up the name because it sounded sizzled and sounded fun and crazy like cartoons.


And the Saturday Morning Block will be.......Dynamite Action Squad. It will feature rope swinging, creek jumping, and the kids talks on walkie-talkies. They'll have other kids making their own action-packed mini-movies. Ben 10, Fantastic Four, Pokemon (D&P), and Teen Titans all return.


On Fried Dynamite, Blake and his friends will showcase on what they discovered at Cartoon Network and solicit input from viewers just like them. Blake will be on the road to cover the latest trends and events that kids like.



It also states that Blake is a super Cartoon Network fan.




Plus: Blake "has a seat at CN for his job through creativity and initiative". Not only does he "have a seat at CN", but Blake and his friends go behind the scenes with creators on their shows.



Debuts Labor Day weekend.


From,
John D. Timmons,

"The Timmons Report".

Kurokawa41
08-15-2007, 01:29 PM
You honestly think you can get away with that without a source?

Edit: Err, nevermind. You're the guy from the industry.

Does this mean Pokemon is off Toonami, by chance?

Dr.Pepper
08-15-2007, 01:35 PM
Well maybe his friend would have some sense and make CN a better place.

NintyScreen
08-15-2007, 01:49 PM
Dynamite Action Squad?

First, there were the movies. Second, there were the series. Now, the blocks! Why can't they just do animation? Or at least if anybody wants to see them do. Otherwise, the whole idea of Live-Action on an animated programming is obviously worthless.

And I've never thought of this that way.

veemonjosh
08-15-2007, 02:04 PM
Ok, that's it. I've had it with them. I can't take this anymore.

Cartoon Network has screwed up too much thus far. First it was just simply adding in live-action movies, which only got really bad during Dumb and Dumber, Snow Day and Mighty Ducks, which, as you may notice, they never replayed again. Then they added crap like Pokemon reruns and Yu-Gi-Oh GX to Toonami, which was easily avoidable. Sometime after, they changed Toonami to become it's worst update thus far.

Now, they're changing the Friday block and even the SATURDAY MORNING block (which I thought would be safe from this crap) to become just unwatchable.

Before you stop me and say "But you're not in the age group they're targeting this at", just ask yourself this: Would you, as a kid, honestly tolerate most of this? I know fully well that I wouldn't have.

Cartoon Network is dead to me, Saturday mornings are dead to me, US Animation is dead to me, television as a whole is dead to me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm still looking forward to the new Transformers series and the new One Piece dub. But honestly, CN is in the worst shape they have EVER been, and they're literally just making it worse.

KuwabaraTheMan
08-15-2007, 02:11 PM
television as a whole is dead to me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm still looking forward to the new Transformers series and the new One Piece dub.

Bipolar bear, lol wut?

Anyways, I fail to see how this is a big deal. The packaging of Friday night and Saturday morning doesn't really affect me too much. It's not like this is even impacting their shows.

Rolling Cloud
08-15-2007, 02:11 PM
Wow, just wow. Is CN retarded or something?

D Dubbs
08-15-2007, 02:16 PM
Does this mean Pokemon is off Toonami, by chance?


It's not on the Toonami block, just Jetstream. And no, it won't be leaving Jetstream in the near future.


Now, they're changing the Friday block and even the SATURDAY MORNING block (which I thought would be safe from this crap) to become just unwatchable.

Why do you care so much about CN's Saturday mornings? All the current shows are just reruns.

Before you stop me and say "But you're not in the age group they're targeting this at", just ask yourself this: Would you, as a kid, honestly tolerate most of this? I know fully well that I wouldn't have.Yes, I would have. What's so bad about kids hosting programming for kids?

Megaman X
08-15-2007, 02:24 PM
Action....Squad??????


....Ok who wants to join me and destroying these KIDS hosting this???? O_o

Ok really this is terrible what..is Cartoonnetwork thinking?(Oh wait they are not..)

veemonjosh
08-15-2007, 03:03 PM
Why do you care so much about CN's Saturday mornings? All the current shows are just reruns.

All reruns? There's still new Fantastic Four every other week.

And I care about it because I plan on watching both the new Ben 10 series and the new Transformers series when they premiere.

D Dubbs
08-15-2007, 03:05 PM
All reruns? There's still new Fantastic Four every other week.

Oh. Still, it's not the most impressive lineup.

dmxx116
08-15-2007, 03:12 PM
Oh. Still, it's not the most impressive lineup.
Someone need to fred that his block is going to suck bigtime.

Beefy
08-15-2007, 03:13 PM
Shouldn't Blake be in school instead of touring the country?

Kagetsu
08-15-2007, 03:16 PM
On Fried Dynamite, Blake and his friends will showcase on what they discovered at Cartoon Network and solicit input from viewers just like them. Blake will be on the road to cover the latest trends and events that kids like. Sounds like the bumpers showcasing kid snow boarders and drag racers, incidentally, it simply reminded me of the fun stuff I was never able to do as a kid, which made me super bored. There is fun, but it tend to be expensive and off in some other state :sad:
Blake and his friends go behind the scenes with creators on their shows.
Now that shows promise


Actually, I like the idea of "Blocks", and bringing TeenTitans as an anchor show sounds good. But if they don't take risks with new shows, a block is a bit pointless.

Red
08-15-2007, 03:18 PM
Ok, that's it. I've had it with them. I can't take this anymore.

Cartoon Network has screwed up too much thus far. First it was just simply adding in live-action movies, which only got really bad during Dumb and Dumber, Snow Day and Mighty Ducks, which, as you may notice, they never replayed again. Then they added crap like Pokemon reruns and Yu-Gi-Oh GX to Toonami, which was easily avoidable. Sometime after, they changed Toonami to become it's worst update thus far.

Now, they're changing the Friday block and even the SATURDAY MORNING block (which I thought would be safe from this crap) to become just unwatchable.

Before you stop me and say "But you're not in the age group they're targeting this at", just ask yourself this: Would you, as a kid, honestly tolerate most of this? I know fully well that I wouldn't have.

Cartoon Network is dead to me, Saturday mornings are dead to me, US Animation is dead to me, television as a whole is dead to me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm still looking forward to the new Transformers series and the new One Piece dub. But honestly, CN is in the worst shape they have EVER been, and they're literally just making it worse.

Have you seen Fried Dynamite? Have you seen the morning block? No. You are judging a book by it's cover and it's really not fair. Do the promos make it look cheesy? Yeah. However the host, while only a kid, seems pretty professional and knows what he's doing. He'll be growing up soon too, and if they decide to keep him, I'm sure the block would get better over time anyways. Plus, not watching a block of shows that you like just because of the bumpers is really pointless.

veemonjosh
08-15-2007, 03:46 PM
Have you seen Fried Dynamite? Have you seen the morning block? No. You are judging a book by it's cover and it's really not fair. Do the promos make it look cheesy? Yeah. However the host, while only a kid, seems pretty professional and knows what he's doing. He'll be growing up soon too, and if they decide to keep him, I'm sure the block would get better over time anyways. Plus, not watching a block of shows that you like just because of the bumpers is really pointless.

Did I say I wasn't going to watch? No. Heck, I've even listed THREE shows that I'm going to watch regardless of the bumpers.

All I'm saying is that these blocks aren't exactly the type of thing that'll appeal to kids.

D Dubbs
08-15-2007, 03:49 PM
All I'm saying is that these blocks aren't exactly the type of thing that'll appeal to kids.

And how do you know that? It seems that you're making a guess based on your own opinions.

Tea
08-15-2007, 03:51 PM
Teen Titans is coming back so they got my approval. And maybe with more viewer input we'll actually see more ANIMATED stuff instead of live-action. (minus the segments anyway) Then again the commercials aren't exactly promising but... eh we'll see.

D Dubbs
08-15-2007, 04:04 PM
Teen Titans is coming back so they got my approval. And maybe with more viewer input we'll actually see more ANIMATED stuff instead of live-action. (minus the segments anyway) Then again the commercials aren't exactly promising but... eh we'll see.

FYI, Teen Titans never really left CN. Although the amount of reruns has gone down considerably over the past few years, Teen Titans is still played quite a bit during weekends.

dmxx116
08-15-2007, 04:12 PM
If they like Teen Titans so much why don't make new episodes then.

veemonjosh
08-15-2007, 04:13 PM
And how do you know that? It seems that you're making a guess based on your own opinions.

And the opinion of kids I've talked to who are in the 6-11 demographic.

Draft
08-15-2007, 04:16 PM
I figured Dynomite had SatAm once Miguzi died...

So then Where the hell is Santo and Secret Saturdays?

Blackstar
08-15-2007, 05:19 PM
If they like Teen Titans so much why don't make new episodes then?

CN didn't make any of the Teen Titans episodes, Warner brothers and DC did. CN didn't produce the series, they only aired it.

John Dorian
08-15-2007, 05:49 PM
CN didn't make any of the Teen Titans episodes, Warner brothers and DC did. CN didn't produce the series, they only aired it.




But, CN's name was at the end, though. Sam Register (CN) has its name at the end.

Blackstar
08-15-2007, 05:53 PM
But, CN's name was at the end, though. Sam Register (CN) has its name at the end.

That doesn't mean that the network had any kind of hand in the shows' production. Not arguing. Just sayin'...

DarthGonzo
08-15-2007, 06:06 PM
....Ok who wants to join me and destroying these KIDS hosting this???? O_o


Not me. That's not cool, man.

Kitschensyngk
08-15-2007, 07:21 PM
Who's Blake anyway? The network president's son or something?

macattack
08-15-2007, 08:03 PM
Personally, I don't see what's wrong with what CN's trying to do, at least on paper. It's the execution that matters.

Re-Animated's idea sounds much better on paper than it did onscreen, for instance. And who here thought that Teen Titans was going to be crap when they announced it and its concept?

What I mean is, wait until the idea is executed here, since CN's idea isn't unreasonable. It also helps make them different from Nick and Disney, so that's always important, too.

Kurokawa41
08-15-2007, 08:31 PM
It also helps make them different from Nick and Disney

Um... what.

kaleb
08-15-2007, 09:16 PM
I think that maybe the show will need a few months to adjust and make changes. They might have to figure out which concepts work and which do not. You know, focus groups and such. The green screen skits that I saw look a little cheesy but maybe they'll get rid of what doesn't work and replace it with better stuff. I know a few 7-11 year old boys that are really looking forward to kids hosting.

I found the link for the press release that Cartoon Network put out today:

http://www.turnerinfo.com/newsitem.aspx?P=CARTOON&CID01=fd0014c8-0984-46c5-8262-b04222677d1e

Toonfan2000
08-15-2007, 09:22 PM
Um... what.

It's simple:

-Disney Channel is for "tweenyboppers"
-Nick is semi-trying to copy DC
-Cartoon Network appears to be trying to copy old Nick (that is, pre-TeeNICK Nickelodeon).

Kurokawa41
08-15-2007, 09:23 PM
It's simple:

-Disney Channel is for "tweenyboppers"
-Nick is semi-trying to copy DC
-Cartoon Network appears to be trying to copy old Nick (that is, pre-TeeNICK Nickelodeon).

Meh, never liked Nick.

dmxx116
08-15-2007, 09:29 PM
Cartoon network need to get back 2001 to 2004 days this cartoon network just flat out sucks and i have to pay a cable bill on this peace of crap right now.

BCVM22
08-15-2007, 10:04 PM
Cartoon network need to get back 2001 to 2004 days this cartoon network just flat out sucks and i have to pay a cable bill on this peace of crap right now.

Well, no, technically you're paying your cable bill for all of the channels, not just Cartoon Network.

If you don't like it, don't watch. I'd wager a small amount that you don't watch 50% of the channels you get anyway.

dmxx116
08-15-2007, 10:07 PM
Well, no, technically you're paying your cable bill for all of the channels, not just Cartoon Network.

If you don't like it, don't watch. I'd wager a small amount that you don't watch 50% of the channels you get anyway.
Then how bout you then BCVM22.

Kurokawa41
08-15-2007, 10:32 PM
Hell, I don't watch 99% of the channels I get.

Then again I don't pay for my cable.

Kagetsu
08-15-2007, 10:44 PM
If they like Teen Titans so much why don't make new episodes then.Every show loses it's writing spark after a while. Titans lasted longer than most, but they were going down hill near the end. Even if they managed to pull some good episodes.

CN didn't make any of the Teen Titans episodes, Warner brothers and DC did. CN didn't produce the series, they only aired it.Really? I could see DC having a hand in it because they are their characters. But I didn't think WB contracted shows for other networks until they showed them first. The fact that CN brings shows from Canada and Japan, keeps them on my list. If they just wouldn't abandon European shows to Jetix so much, I'd be happier. But considering their only winners from there seem to have been Code Lyoko and Totally Spies, I guess they got gunshy :sad: And when CN does make a good overseas collaboration, IGPX, they hide it because the ratings aren't spectacular.

BCVM22
08-16-2007, 12:01 AM
Then how bout you then BCVM22.

How about me what? Over half the channels I get, I don't watch, and if CN doesn't have anything I feel like watching, I change the channel or turn the TV off and go read a book or something. Scary thought, I know.

Silverstar
08-16-2007, 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by Blackstar http://forums.toonzone.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=2618464#post2618464)
CN didn't make any of the Teen Titans episodes, WarnerBrothers and DC did. CN didn't produce the series, they only aired it.
Really? I could see DC having a hand in it because they are their characters.

Um, DC did have a hand in it. He said that DC and WB were the ones who actually made the show-character designs, scripts and all. CN helped fund the show and aired it on their network, but they weren't active in the actual production of the show, characters or episodes.

William C. Maune
08-16-2007, 08:44 AM
Part of this actually sounds pretty cool: the plan of going behind the scenes and talking to the creators of the shows. That's something we haven't really seen before and that would actually be interesting. As Red noted, there's a lot of hate here considering no one has actually seen this yet. Would you rather they bring Carrot Top back? That would be old school Cartoon Network.

Kagetsu
08-16-2007, 10:19 AM
Part of this actually sounds pretty cool: the plan of going behind the scenes and talking to the creators of the shows. That's something we haven't really seen before and that would actually be interesting. As Red noted, there's a lot of hate here considering no one has actually seen this yet. Would you rather they bring Carrot Top back? That would be old school Cartoon Network.:eek: OMG they actually used Carrot Top? I can't imagine what that was like :p I think the real fear is that it's another step closer to copying "The Zach and Cody channel" (Disney) and "The Drake and Josh Channel" (Nick) :p The idea that CN is trying to put across is that it's programming is now being chosen by kids that feel as the audience feels. I don't buy that they're relinquishing their "ratings and expenses" programming. especially since it doesn't seem to be bringing any new shows in. That's the part that kinda scares me. :shrug:

Jeff Harris
08-16-2007, 11:31 AM
Would you rather they bring Carrot Top back? That would be old school Cartoon Network.I dunno.

I mean, they could keep him off-screen. He's not the most pleasant-looking guy to see, and now that he's pumped up and muscularly, he's even more freaky looking.

He was a great continuity announcer for the network back in the day though. The best they had until they got Phil Hartman, who was great until he got killed by his witch of a wife.

And now I'm sad again.

buttah
08-16-2007, 09:13 PM
I remember when I first saw this I hated the idea but more and more I'm warming up to it. It's not like it's gonna take away all the cartoons it's just gonna be short little things in between commericial breaks. It even looks like something kids would like.

bigddan11
08-17-2007, 12:29 AM
Most of us have said that Sat. AM needed its own block, and now we have people complaining that it will be its own block. Also, while most of Sat. AM is reruns in the summer, it is usually premieres in the fall and winter, so I'm glad they'll have Ben 10, Poke'Mon, and F4 on it, all of which will be premiers, if I'm not mistaken.

I won't necessarily care for the live action hosts, but they deserve a chance before all this condeming occurs.

Sketch
08-17-2007, 10:19 AM
I saw a lot of momentary Storm Hawks clips during one of the longer Fried Dynamite commercials. I'd have to guess it will move it's premieres to Saturday morning as well (so much for Toonami premieres... ah well).

Super Sonic
08-18-2007, 12:36 PM
I dunno.

I mean, they could keep him off-screen. He's not the most pleasant-looking guy to see, and now that he's pumped up and muscularly, he's even more freaky looking.

He was a great continuity announcer for the network back in the day though. The best they had until they got Phil Hartman, who was great until he got killed by his witch of a wife.

And now I'm sad again.


I still think it's Andy's fault.
I never knew Phil Hartman was an announcer on CN. How long? Anyway, while I hate everything I've seen of Fried Dynamite, it could be potentially special.

TheAnimeBoy16
08-18-2007, 01:23 PM
Y'know, all of the recent events of CN over the past couple of years should be made into a Book, Movie, or Documentary. Cause this becoming a friggin screenplay real quick. First, the mass exodus of those executives that wanted the network to stay the same as it always had. Then, the Friday Night block change. Then the introduction of live-action entertainment with that whole Re-Animated "experiment". Then, the Boston Bomb Scare caused by the ATHF movie and the stepping down of Jim Samples. Then, the complete overhaul of all of the blocks. And not just Toonami, but the whole Toonami to Saturdays-Miguzi to weekdays move of a few years ago, this whole Fried Dynamite thing, and, if we start hearing bad stuff about IT, Master Control (whatuva happened to that?). Man, this is keeping me on the edge of my seats. I'd friggin' write the script, direct, and produce it. Put it on DVD and it'll more than likely end up on one of those "video" sites. It will be watched and people will be shocked. Either has a Documentary or a movie that's a movie and a documentary at the same time. Or just write a book. But, a movie puts out more anger than a book unfortunately. More than likely call it "From Cartoon Network to The Network: How the First 24-hour Animation Network Changed Forever." Trust me, this is making me feel like I'm watching 24 or The West Wing.

kaleb
08-18-2007, 01:35 PM
Every network, and business for that matter, has drama, upheavals, and changes. The only difference, for you, here, is that you're actually interested in this particular network so you're paying attention. Cartoon Network is in a period of change right now.

Jacob T. Paschal
08-18-2007, 01:47 PM
Y'know, all of the recent events of CN over the past couple of years should be made into a Book, Movie, or Documentary. Cause this becoming a friggin screenplay real quick. First, the mass exodus of those executives that wanted the network to stay the same as it always had. Then, the Friday Night block change. Then the introduction of live-action entertainment with that whole Re-Animated "experiment". Then, the Boston Bomb Scare caused by the ATHF movie and the stepping down of Sam Register. Then, the complete overhaul of all of the blocks. And not just Toonami, but the whole Toonami to Saturdays-Miguzi to weekdays move of a few years ago, this whole Fried Dynamite thing, and, if we start hearing bad stuff about IT, Master Control (whatuva happened to that?). Man, this is keeping me on the edge of my seats. I'd friggin' write the script, direct, and produce it. Put it on DVD and it'll more than likely end up on one of those "video" sites. It will be watched and people will be shocked. Either has a Documentary or a movie that's a movie and a documentary at the same time. Or just write a book. But, a movie puts out more anger than a book unfortunately. More than likely call it "From Cartoon Network to The Network: How the First 24-hour Animation Network Changed Forever." Trust me, this is making me feel like I'm watching 24 or The West Wing.

Heck, I'd buy that!

TheAnimeBoy16
08-18-2007, 01:48 PM
Every network, and business for that matter, has drama, upheavals, and changes. The only difference, for you, here, is that you're actually interested in this particular network so you're paying attention. Cartoon Network is in a period of change right now.

The difference here is that, and some people (note SOME) probably don't know this, but CN is MOVING AWAY from it's original mission. You see, back in the early 90's, there was a battle between a Mr. Ted Turner and the owners of the Nickelodeon network (and maybe some others) for the Hanna-Barbera animation library and studios. Eventually Mr. Turner won that battle and created, with the Hanna-Barbera animation library, Cartoon Network in 1992. Then, Turner Broadcasting was bought by Time Warner and therefore CN acquired the Warner Brothers-Looney Tunes-Merrie Melodies library. And the rest as they say, is history. So, to summarize this, Cartoon Network was a 24-hour network created with the Hanna-Barbera Productions library. Nothing more, nothing less. Things changed after the mass exodus due to the bringing up of live-action entertainment. Yeah, I know this is a change, but a change that shouldn't happen AT ALL. I mean, why has it been called a "Cartoon Network" all this time? Not trying to be mean, just making a point. If you think I am, I apologize in advance:D .

NintyScreen
08-18-2007, 06:39 PM
Y'know, all of the recent events of CN over the past couple of years should be made into a Book, Movie, or Documentary. Cause this becoming a friggin screenplay real quick. First, the mass exodus of those executives that wanted the network to stay the same as it always had. Then, the Friday Night block change. Then the introduction of live-action entertainment with that whole Re-Animated "experiment". Then, the Boston Bomb Scare caused by the ATHF movie and the stepping down of Sam Register. Then, the complete overhaul of all of the blocks. And not just Toonami, but the whole Toonami to Saturdays-Miguzi to weekdays move of a few years ago, this whole Fried Dynamite thing, and, if we start hearing bad stuff about IT, Master Control (whatuva happened to that?). Man, this is keeping me on the edge of my seats. I'd friggin' write the script, direct, and produce it. Put it on DVD and it'll more than likely end up on one of those "video" sites. It will be watched and people will be shocked. Either has a Documentary or a movie that's a movie and a documentary at the same time. Or just write a book. But, a movie puts out more anger than a book unfortunately. More than likely call it "From Cartoon Network to The Network: How the First 24-hour Animation Network Changed Forever." Trust me, this is making me feel like I'm watching 24 or The West Wing.

I'd rather see a documentary in which talks about the decline of parenthood.

John Dorian
08-18-2007, 07:00 PM
Y'know, all of the recent events of CN over the past couple of years should be made into a Book, Movie, or Documentary. Cause this becoming a friggin screenplay real quick. First, the mass exodus of those executives that wanted the network to stay the same as it always had. Then, the Friday Night block change. Then the introduction of live-action entertainment with that whole Re-Animated "experiment". Then, the Boston Bomb Scare caused by the ATHF movie and the stepping down of Sam Register. Then, the complete overhaul of all of the blocks. And not just Toonami, but the whole Toonami to Saturdays-Miguzi to weekdays move of a few years ago, this whole Fried Dynamite thing, and, if we start hearing bad stuff about IT, Master Control (whatuva happened to that?). Man, this is keeping me on the edge of my seats. I'd friggin' write the script, direct, and produce it. Put it on DVD and it'll more than likely end up on one of those "video" sites. It will be watched and people will be shocked. Either has a Documentary or a movie that's a movie and a documentary at the same time. Or just write a book. But, a movie puts out more anger than a book unfortunately. More than likely call it "From Cartoon Network to The Network: How the First 24-hour Animation Network Changed Forever." Trust me, this is making me feel like I'm watching 24 or The West Wing.



Whoa, whoa, man, Sam never stepped down, Jim Samples (the head on CN) did.

Jacob T. Paschal
08-18-2007, 07:03 PM
I do wonder...what exactly do the new suits think they're doing?

TheAnimeBoy16
08-18-2007, 07:19 PM
Whoa, whoa, man, Sam never stepped down, Jim Samples (the head on CN) did.

Dang it........I forget things real easily. Thanks man.

*Fixes post*

I'd rather see a documentary in which talks about the decline of parenthood.

That also would actually be good. Considering parents can't get a handle of the V-Chip/Parental Controls despite the massive amount of PSAs that is aired on TV. Even so much as for the FCC to ask for more power against violence, drug use, etc. As well as more parents not giving a crap about their children's actions these days. I'd probably match two and two together. Good idea!;)

.bg
08-18-2007, 08:00 PM
Wow. Kids in a seat of power at Cartoon Network? What's next, letting James Earl Jones run CNN, simply because he's the booming voice in the promos?

Turner has fallen far.

John Dorian
08-18-2007, 08:24 PM
I think: what if CN showed live action back in the day and just anime, boy, kids would've been screwed all over while the little kids today can get the good stuff while we remember the stupid stuff. And there was no Hanna Barbera, no old WB toons on CN, just live action/animation and OOJH and school-like cartoons (I don't like to think about school in cartoons), we've would've been complaining all the time! But, that's freaking life, and we (gulp) have to adjust to it.



But Seriously, though, it's the Stupid Age, folks, and by golly in 2010, we'll see some good stuff again. The executives will be mad and want to track down that person, but they'll be forced to bring back stuff. And that live action stuff will be gone because it isn't pulling big ratings. I hpe Blake puts some old Cartoon Cartoons, though. This won't happen, though.:(

J'onn J'onzz
08-19-2007, 09:49 AM
The promos for Fried Dynamite suck. Really bad. I mean, if they can't find something good about the show to put in their promos, you just know the block is going to suck. It's the same with movies. There are very rarely good movies with horrible trailers.
Hell, I don't watch 99% of the channels I get.

Then again I don't pay for my cable.
I get like a thousand channels from DirecTV. I only watch three or four regularly. CN isn't one of them.

Antiyonder
08-19-2007, 10:21 AM
Every network, and business for that matter, has drama, upheavals, and changes. The only difference, for you, here, is that you're actually interested in this particular network so you're paying attention. Cartoon Network is in a period of change right now.

Actually I have quite a bit of favorite networks. But imo, there's more to the problem than that. Lack of variety and effort.

Variety- There's quite a bit of cartoons airing today, but other types of programming like sitcoms are a dime a dozen. And while Power Rangers and Kamen Rider (which is premiering next year) are not cartoons, there aren't many shows of the nature.

The other instants is as danreyes1 pointed out, they have 23-25 shows that they've shown willingness to air at all (not counting Adult Swim). So rather than airing the same 5 shows 100 times a day, they should at least try to air a more diverse schedule for at least a week. But then again, variety is considered a profane word on the network nowadays.

Effort- Like Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, the execs don't believe in working hard for success. They rely on solely their fadtype shows. Yes, those networks have always had the goal of making a profit, but despite some mistakes, they've shown more patience and didn't just rush into canceling a show. If those three networks had the same high expectation then here are the following franchises they would have been without giving it time to get viewers:

Rugrats
Fairly Oddparents
Spongebob Squarepants
Ed Edd and Eddy

These shows when they started out were average in ratings at best, but at the time CN and Nick didn't have their kneejerk reaction of canceling a show straight away. If these shows premiered today, they'd share the same treatment as Duck Dodgers, Krypto The Superdog, Juniper Lee, My Life As A Teenage Robot, Catscratch.

Another example of lacking effort, is the reason of bring a live action show on the network. Because they get more ratings. Problem is that we can't be too sure though. It's because live action shows, get more advertising and promotions. If that same effort was put into the cartoons on the network, they wouldn't have had to bother with Out Of Jimmy's Head in the first place. Cause if a network consisting of cartoons and only cartoons had poor ratings, then Cartoon Network wouldn't have made it further than say 1999.

Let me put it this way, if Disney's comics (not counting Slave Labor Graphics) sold more than every other company, would DC or Marvel Comics gain the same success if they Disneyfied all of their titles (In both design, characters and stories)?

DarthGonzo
08-19-2007, 11:03 AM
I do wonder...what exactly do the new suits think they're doing?

Competing with the Disney Channel, which is creaming them in the ratings. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

desi
08-22-2007, 07:58 PM
In that case, they are doing a really bad job "joining" them.

Ace Goodheart
08-23-2007, 01:41 AM
I dunno.

I mean, they could keep him off-screen. He's not the most pleasant-looking guy to see, and now that he's pumped up and muscularly, he's even more freaky looking.

He was a great continuity announcer for the network back in the day though. The best they had until they got Phil Hartman, who was great until he got killed by his witch of a wife.

And now I'm sad again.

Have you forgotten all about "Carrot Top's A.M Mayhem" Mr. Harris? :p The mid '90's weekday morning cartoon show hosted by Carrot Top, which according to some old-as-dirt news articles was one of CN's highest-rated programs back in their prehistoric era when they had yet to make much inroads into the U.S. I believed it was later replaced by the simpler "Cartoon-A-Doodle-Dooooooo!", which had no hosts or segments.

Carrot Top...........CN's first live-action personality. I know him (to this day) more for "A.M Mayhem" than anything else including his comedy career.

I wonder who was the main CN VO that was around throughout the '90's.

bigddan11
08-24-2007, 12:07 PM
I saw a lot of momentary Storm Hawks clips during one of the longer Fried Dynamite commercials. I'd have to guess it will move it's premieres to Saturday morning as well (so much for Toonami premieres... ah well).
The Sat. AM block is only three hours, unless they should decide to expand it into their marathon time, and we now know the three hours will be:
Poke'Mon Diamond & Pearl (one hour)
Ben 10
Fantastic Four: Worlds Greatest Heroes
Teen Titans
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
If they expand it by one hour, I suspect Storm Hawks and Code Lyoko will get those spots, but since Storm Hawks premieres are on Tonami as of September 8, according to CN's advance schedule, then it'll probably be an encore of the Toonami premiere (much like F4 was last year). They also have the Storm Hawks clips listed under "shows never before seen" during those commercials, which we know is false, since it has been airing on Summer @ 7.