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Carlos
08-12-2007, 09:08 PM
How many channels would you make and what would those channels have/focus on? What audience would you be aiming for with those channels? Since this is fantasy, you can change Boomerang and/or CN if you want.

Silverstar
08-12-2007, 09:13 PM
CN and Boomerang are pretty much passable as is (except for the live-action shows and movies on CN, IMHO);

I would probably just create that long sought-after Cartoon-Cartoon Network that so many people have been craving. That way people would be able to get their 90's-'00's retro cartoon fix and it wouldn't have to interfere with anything the other CN channels are doing.

Of course, realistically, you'd have to pepper the schedule with the odd original series or block of new shows (most likely a CCF or 3-Headed Monster-type block airing on weekends, or a Tickle U type block on weekday mornings for the kiddies and/or some original prime time toons to air on weeknights), since they couldn't just show 90's Cartoon-Cartoons all of the time. Maybe also a show which airs arty animation films and short subjects like Sally Kruikshank/Marv Newland type stuff as well as cheesy animation PSAs and the like which could air late nights, and possibly toss a Toon Heads or Late Night Black and White type show or 2 in there as well.

HG Revolution
08-12-2007, 09:28 PM
Spin-offs? I'd rather have the power to make regular CN awesome again before even worrying about spin-offs.

Blackstar
08-12-2007, 09:40 PM
Offhand, the only thing that I would want to do is create a new channel which would act as a sort of "middle ground" between CN and [adult swim]. This 3rd channel would be aimed primarily at an older audience. Not necessarily hardcore TV-MA rated shows like on [as], but animation aimed at a more mature audience than just kids under 14. If CN is aimed at kids under 14, then my channel would be aimed at the 15-30 crowd. It would have original shows as well as some "classics". Nothing like Tickle U, Out of Jimmy's Head or Fried Dynamite. This channel could air former CN original shows such as Toon Heads and Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, as well as some former Toonami shows like Megas XLR, or Justice League/Justice League Unlimited. They could even air some programs like Liquid Television or late night blocks such as Night Flight (I know that these shows could never air on CN, but since this is a fantasy, I can put any shows that I want here).

Taylor Karras
08-12-2007, 11:21 PM
Yeah, Why would I want a spinoff...

Mugen
08-12-2007, 11:34 PM
Yeah, Why would I want a spinoff...

If you don't have anything to post relating to the topic, then don't post at all.

Taylor Karras
08-13-2007, 12:00 AM
No seriously, We got Cartoon Network and Boomerang. The only Spinoffs that seem viable and barley logical is Toonami and Adult Swim. Cartoon Network doesn't have much content to spin-off from the original channel.

John Dorian
08-13-2007, 12:03 AM
I think Turner needs to bring POGO TV to the US for the kids stuff.

Mugen
08-13-2007, 12:04 AM
No seriously, We got Cartoon Network and Boomerang. The only Spinoffs that seem viable and barley logical is Toonami and Adult Swim. Cartoon Network doesn't have much content to spin-off from the original channel.

This is a fantasy thread. People can make up their networks if they want. This topic isn't asking if CN has anything to spin-off of, it's asking if YOU were in charge.

Dr.Pepper
08-13-2007, 12:20 AM
I would either make a make an Adult Swim channel just to get that junk off CN or prefferably make a Cartoon Cartoon Network with the look of CCF all the time.

Taylor Karras
08-13-2007, 01:24 AM
Oh, I would probally spin-off Toonami to it's own channel.
[adult swim] wouldn't be viable due to the ammount of shows.

Dudley
08-13-2007, 01:33 AM
We should have a Toonami channel like UK had.
Except it will be good.

Sketch
08-13-2007, 05:01 AM
Never miss a shot to poke fun at that short lived rubbish. :p

Okay then... Obviously a Toonami channel comes to mind but before I did that I'd try to fix CN and Boomerang. I believe if both of those were doing well then only one more network is "needed" that could either be a general tween/teen targeted CN spin-off network with the best cartoons they've got in the vault that don't suit Boomerang or a tween/teen targeted Toonami channel. Either way, I want a 9-17 cartoon channel.

.bg
08-13-2007, 04:40 PM
If I ran Bravo, I'd spin off an Adult Swim channel.

As for Cartoon Network, I'd spin off an Adult Swim-esque channel. Can't think of a good name for it right now, though.

NintyScreen
08-13-2007, 07:00 PM
If I ran Bravo, I'd spin off an Adult Swim channel.

As for Cartoon Network, I'd spin off an Adult Swim-esque channel. Can't think of a good name for it right now, though.

...Adult Swim?

Mugen
08-14-2007, 07:05 PM
While I do think four channels would be ideal(with Nick getting three spin-off channels come 2008; four if you count Nick2), I think three can be fine. My three are: Cartoon Network, Boomerang, and the Pogo Network.


Cartoon Network

-Would be animation-only and stay that way. live-action and animation hybrids are fine, as long as animation is represented equally(meaning there has to be more than 2 minutes of animation).

- The channel would have older WBA animated shows(more in the mornings and Sundays) like TTA, A!, etc.

- Classic cartoons like the Jetsons, Flintstones, Looney Tunes etc. would be shown, during the day and some during primetime.

- New original shows would debut on Fridays, with new episodes airing there. Programming stunts, like airing new episodes of different shows at 7 during the summer, would be used.

- Toonami would return to weekdays, while still retaining Saturday night. The block would still be prominent on the network.

- Adult Swim would still be on the network, 7 nights a week.

Audience: 2-11, 6-11, 9-14, 12-17(for Toonami), 18-34(for Adult Swim)

Boomerang

- The network would be the place for classic cartoons.

- All older Hanna-Barbera shows would air on here.

- All WB, and MGM theatrical shorts would air here.

- Would try to get the rights to air Woody Woodpecker and other Terrytoons on the network.

- Boomerang wouldn't be limited to just American shows; classic shows from around the world can air here.

- In order for a show to air on Boomerang, the minimum would be 25 years old.

- New bumpers and commercials would be made for the network

Audience: 18-34, 18-49, and 25-54


Pogo Network

- This would be the place where animation and live-action can air.

- Would be Turner's version of The N and Disney Channel

- Out of Jimmy's Head would air here instead.:D

- In the morning would be shows aimed towards the 2-5 year olds. So, all the preschool shows like Peppa Pig and Baby Looney Tunes would air here. A Tickle U-like block would air.

- The afternoon would have shows that 9-14 year olds can watch.

- The late-afternoon-night would have shows more aimed towards the 12-17 age group but, 9-14 year olds can still watch. Basically mostly live-action shows and some animation sprinkled in there.

Audience: 2-5(morning), 9-14, 12-17


Basically that's what I would do. The fourth channel would be a CN Too, where CN originals from past to present would air. And shows that didn't do well in the ratings air here as well. However, I could live without one since CN and Boomerang would be better scheduled.

J'onn J'onzz
08-14-2007, 07:15 PM
Never miss a shot to poke fun at that short lived rubbish. :p

It wasn't that short lived, really. I mean, it lasted four years. Longer than a fair amount of channels last here.

But, yeah, I'd try a Toonami/AS channel. Toonami during the day, AS at night.

.bg
08-15-2007, 11:39 AM
...Adult Swim?
Cartoon Network UK does not show Adult Swim. Bravo UK does.

Draft
08-15-2007, 04:28 PM
Make Boomerang Focused on H-B Properties, and older Toonami Properties...

Make a New Channel called CN Too, whuch focuses on Cartoon Cartoons and More current Toonami Programming

A StrangeTypeGuy
08-15-2007, 04:41 PM
CN has too much in their library for 2 networks, but not quite enough for 3, so I'd just fix up CN with older originals during the day, and that'd be it.

Blackstar
08-15-2007, 05:16 PM
Make Boomerang Focused on H-B Properties, and older Toonami Properties...

Make a New Channel called CN Too, which focuses on Cartoon Cartoons and More current Toonami Programming

Cartoon Network TOO already exists, just not in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Network_TOO

Kurokawa41
08-15-2007, 05:37 PM
I'd make Boomerang old, classic shows only and take everything else and dump it back on regular CN at various times, then I'd create a Toonami channel and an [adult swim] channel. Toonami would get a complete facelift; it wouldn't be the new look or any of the old ones, but something completely new, still with Tom and traditional space elements and such.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Toonami would get [adult swim]'s anime, and skew older. [adult swim] would be comedy only.

Toonfan2000
08-15-2007, 11:56 PM
CARTOON NETWORK:

-Would air Looney Tunes, MGM, Scooby-Doo, original cartoons, anime (on Toonami) and Cartoon Theater.

-The original logo would come back (but not the "Powerhouse" look. 6+ years is long enough; don't get me wrong, I liked that look).

CARTOON NETWORK CLASSIC:

-A rebranded and refocused Boomerang. Would air WB, MGM, Popeye, Paramount and H-B cartoons.

TOONAMI:

-A new logo would be created for this channel. Would be an extension of the Toonami block on CN.

CARTOON NETWORK 2:

-An extension of Cartoon Network. Cartoon Cartoons and movies would be the main focus of this channel, with classic cartoon shorts being used as break filler.

Also, Adult Swim would be retired to TBS, with its anime being moved to Toonami.

Sorry guys.

Brainatra
08-17-2007, 07:57 PM
Think the US CN's main problem is as others noted, that two channels (CN and Boomerang) aren't enough for all of their various shows. Thus I'd take a cue from our European/UK cohorts and create a third channel (either borrow the name CN Too or use something new).

My makeover:

Cartoon Network:
- No live action, unless it's live action-animation hybrids a la "Roger Rabbit" (not just CGI effects).

- Bring back "Boomerang on Cartoon Network" as a weekend morning TV block (for an hour), as a way of keeping CN's sister network visible publicity-wise.

- Air Looney Tunes for at least a half-hour a day (or whatever length of time Tom and Jerry get).

- Bring back Cartoon Theater.

- Keep Adult Swim intact I suppose, but only air it *once* per night, with the extra overnight airtime used for reruns of various stuff from the day (both old shows and new shows).

Boomerang:
- All classic shows and shorts, with a minimum of being 10 years old required to get on here. I.E. no dumping ground for cancelled CN series (no JLU, baby looney tunes, etc.).

- Probably try to make new bumpers and get more properties in (like the Lantz cartoons, or Terrytoons, as other suggested).

- Consider airing commercials to try to make the channel more viable/appealing to advertisers and raise its profile among cable companies, or go the Disney Channel route and air promos for other Boomerang shows, including ads for the shows on DVD.

- Air and advertise the Silver Age WB shows like Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, and Pinky and the Brain, all of which are certainly old enough for Boomerang status by now, and would give a big boost in visibility to the network.

CN Too/New CN related channel:
- A third channel that would air one of the following:
A) Various action and anime-related shows (the Toonami/Miguzi-type stuff), which would free up some space on the original CN channel to air more older Cartoon Cartoon stuff (Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab, etc.) and so forth.

B) Older CN material. Use *this* channel as a dumping ground for axed shows, both Cartoon Cartoons and action stuff (Duck Dodgers, JLU, Cow and Chicken, etc.).

-B.

TheAnimeBoy16
08-17-2007, 10:17 PM
Hmmm.....Well, first, and this should occur during the FCC mandated Analog-to-Digital move in '09. Cartoon Network itself would be renamed simply as CN and not have the Cartoon Network subtitle in the logo bug and have a CN1 labeling to make it as the main network. Then, I'd revamp the Boomerang channel by renaming it Classic CN (CN2), as well as moving the preschool shows, along with adding some shows that were on the short-lived TickleU block that didn't move to Boomerang, to a network titled TickleU Net (CN3) and the action shows to the much-asked for Toonami channel, simply titled The Toonami Network. Then, the Cartoon Cartoons that were made in the golden age of CN (1995-2005), since the CCs from the period after the 2005 relaunch were more than likely remain on CN, would air on a network titled CartoonCartoonNet (CN5). Then, for the [AS] crowd, a 24-hour network titled [AdultSwim24/7] (CN6). And, finally, a seperate network dedicated to the live action series and movies that CN would create from 2006 to the creation of the digital network, titled CNLive (CN7). Then, any live action movie/series created after the launch period would move to the network, either immediately or eventually. But remember, the most likely chance of this happening would be when the FCC-Mandated 2009 Analog-to-Digital switch period. I may have overdid it somewhat, but this would be the most appeasing way of creating digital subchannels that would benefit each demographic and taste IMHO.
Also, 2 other subchannels, both movie networks. a 24-hour movie network titled CN[AS]MovieNet (CN8). This would be an animated movie network that would be similiar to what the movie networks were like in the infancy of Cable TV. Kid movies in the day, More adult R-rated movies at night. Also, if CN or even happens to make any other Live-Action movies like Re-Animated and the upcoming Ben 10 LA spinoff, it would be a net titled CNLiveMovieNet (CN9). And, to make it 10 digital subchannels, I would create a second classic classic cartoon channel. One that will bring back an old name from the good ol' days of Toonami, Cartoon Roulette Network (CN10). This, if you know your Toonami History, Cartoon Roulette is the name of the old 30-minute shows that aired in the infancy of Toonami that showed classic action-esque cartoon shorts from the Hanna-Barbera library. This network would also contain the classic action cartoons shown on The Toonami Network along with others that are exclusive to CRN. And, for an additional twist, an eleventh channel. This would be a channel featuring shows from all 10 channels as well as shows that can't fit their respective schedules. It would be titled CNShuffle (CN11). This would be a schedule mixed from today and before the relaunch. It would be the preschool shows from TickleU Net from 5:30 AM to 10:30 AM Weekdays only. From 11:00 to 3:00 PM, it would be from CN Classic and CartoonCartoonNet. From 3:00 to 7:00, it would be from Cartoon Roulette Network. And from 7:00 to 11:00 PM it would be from The Toonami Network. And for the rest of the night it would be from [AdultSwim24/7]. For the weekend during the TickleUNet time, it would be 2 movies from both CNMovieNet and CNLiveMovieNet. And Sunday, it would be a mix of shows from CNLive. And, for CN and all it's subchannels. it's IDing would be the channel name, the network's slogan, and then the channel number (i.e. CN, the place for kids everywhere!, CN1) And each channel would have commercials, the commercials would apply to each network's demographic. CN being all, and the rest to their respective demographics. And, 1 more just for kicks. A comedy network featuring all of the CN family's comedy shows. CNComedyView (CN12). It would family friendly-teens during the day and more adult at night. All animated with a sprinkle of whatever live-action comedy shows CN makes before 2009

Blackstar
08-18-2007, 07:20 PM
My Cartoon Network spinoff channel:

Name: REVOLUTION

On weekday mornings from 6am to 2pm, the channel would show classic Cartoon-Cartoon shows commercial free.

2pm-5pm Afternoon Lunchbox- an retro action block (shows like G.I. Joe, Transfomrers, Thundercats, that sort of thing.)

5pm-8pm- Comedy Tonight- a block of original animated comedies.

Weeknights from 8pm to 11pm would be Ignition, an animated action block akin to the original Toonami (late 90s-early 2000s).

Late night schedule:

M-F

11pm- Liquid Television (new episodes combined with reruns)
11:30pm- Eye Drops (new episodes combined with reruns)
12pm- Mystery Science Theater 3000
2am- Night Flight
3am-6am- Retro Cartoon Nights

Saturday mornings:

8am-12pm- Saturday Morning Fever- Classic network Saturday morning cartoons.

Saturday afternoons:

12pm-3pm- Comedy Tonight: Weekend Flashback Jam- Encore performances of the Comedy Tonight shows from the past week.

Saturday nights:

8pm-11pm-Ignition B- Block of animated action shows aimed primarily at young males.

Late night Saturday:
11pm- Jam Shorts- A compilation of film shorts with humorous commentary a la MST3K (original series).
11:30pm- XYZ- Sketch comedy series (original series)
12am- Ad Nausea (a compilation of memorable commercials)
12:30am- Planet Cartoon (a collection of cartoons from around the world)
1am- MST3K
3am- Night Flight

Sunday evenings:

6pm-8pm- Animated movie night
8pm-11pm- Ignition G- Block of animated action shows aimed primarily at young females.

Late night Sunday:

11pm- The Buzz (a forum talk show dealing with topics concerning animation).
11:30pm- Toon Heads
12am- Jam Shorts (encore performance)
12:30am- XYZ (encore performance)
1am- Ad Nausea (encore performance)
1:30am- Planet Cartoon (encore performance)

Draft
08-20-2007, 11:48 AM
Cartoon Network TOO already exists, just not in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Network_TOO
I know, and it would have the similar premise..

Dudley
08-20-2007, 01:02 PM
After hearing that Noggin and the N will split into two channels, and Nick GAS gets the boot, I was thinking this should occur:

So it will no longer have to compete against Nick and DC, Cartoon Network becomes an extended cable channel like Boomerang, with limited availability. In it's place, The Acme Channel will air shows targeted towards kids with a mix of live action and animation. I guess Adult Swim can stay on said network. The new Cartoon Network will focus only on animation, including movies, programming, and possibly documentaries about animation like Toon Heads, The Tex Avery Show, and the like.
Boomerang should probably change to CN 2. And just air whatever CN can't fit in their time slot.

The next time CN visits my school, I'm going to pitch this idea to them.

Wanted
08-20-2007, 03:16 PM
Acme Channel? Why not just call it Acme? The whole "channel/network/television" appendage is becoming overbearing.

EDIT: then again, if there's something stopping you from calling it just plain "Acme", like a brand name, I should shut up.

Mugen
08-20-2007, 03:52 PM
After hearing that Noggin and the N will split into two channels, and Nick GAS gets the boot, I was thinking this should occur:

So it will no longer have to compete against Nick and DC, Cartoon Network becomes an extended cable channel like Boomerang, with limited availability. In it's place, The Acme Channel will air shows targeted towards kids with a mix of live action and animation. I guess Adult Swim can stay on said network. The new Cartoon Network will focus only on animation, including movies, programming, and possibly documentaries about animation like Toon Heads, The Tex Avery Show, and the like.
Boomerang should probably change to CN 2. And just air whatever CN can't fit in their time slot.

The next time CN visits my school, I'm going to pitch this idea to them.

They aren't going to do that. There's a better chance of CN changing their name than giving up the 91 million homes they're in right now.

Dudley
08-20-2007, 03:52 PM
Acme Channel? Why not just call it Acme? The whole "channel/network/television" appendage is becoming overbearing.

EDIT: then again, if there's something stopping you from calling it just plain "Acme", like a brand name, I should shut up.

Because according to Jerry Beck, Cartoon Network was originally going to be called the Acme Network.
Or the Acme Channel.
I forget.

TheVofSteel
08-21-2007, 04:48 AM
Because according to Jerry Beck, Cartoon Network was originally going to be called the Acme Network.
Or the Acme Channel.
I forget.

Maybe because of Looney Tunes? If so, CN shouldn't name them selves after LT if they don't air a significant portion of it.


I know AS doesn't have enough in their library to fill 24 hours. But if they did, I would make an Adult Swim channel, so Cartoon Network can show Looney Tunes and other older programs late at night.

Cade Skywalker
08-22-2007, 02:05 PM
I'd have a Cartoon version of Sci-Fi channel. Having: Star Wars: Clone Wars, The upcoming 3D Star Wars Clone Wars, Justice League: Unlimited, Justice League (The one before JLU. The hour long one), Teen Titans, Batman (PICK! I'd have all of them!), Superman, Amazing Spider-Man (The 90s), Those 60-70s Marvel shows (Spider-Man, Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, etc), Ben 10, X-Men: Evolution, X-Men (90s), Incredible Hulk (90s), The upcoming Wolverine and the X-Men (Hate the title. But, show should be good.), The upcoming Spectacular Spider-Man. And, at about 8:00pm, i'd have a movies: Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo. And countless others!
And yes, i have thought about this

Draft
08-22-2007, 02:10 PM
Umm

1) Superheroes are differnet than Sci-Fi last time i checked, and you only have 2 non-superhero shows..

2) You don't have enough programming to amke a full channel, and 3 movies total?!?!

Cade Skywalker
08-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Comics fall into the same catagory. Check the live-action Spider-Man, X-Men, Daredevil, etc. movies on IMDB. They say Sci-Fi.

And tell me, what makes Teen Titans any differant then Ben 10, in comparison to which is Sci-Fi?

And, Star Wars is, infact, Sci-Fi (Again, check IMDB)

If Sci-Fi channel thought that way, then why would they air most (If not all) of Marvel and DC's movies?

Silverstar
08-22-2007, 03:25 PM
All categorization debates aside, that's still not enough programming for an entire channel. Just those select shows and those same few movies over and over would get old real fast, IMO.

Cade Skywalker
08-22-2007, 03:34 PM
I'd watch it :D

Anyway, i agree about the movie part. Maybe i'd add the live action ones too (Eh, they have "animation" too.... in a way....)

desi
08-22-2007, 09:05 PM
Not all superheroes fall into sci-fi category. Dr Strange would fall into Fantasy and Batman would be in Action/Crime/Mystery and occasionally Sci-fi category.

Cade Skywalker
08-23-2007, 12:25 AM
Ok, i'll give you that.