When was the Last Time CN Claimed to be Animated 24/7?

[kaleb]

Really, when?

It is apparent that almost everyone who posts on this forum is disgusted by the live action programming shown on CN as well as that which is yet to be broadcast. CN is obviously open to mixing up their programming options.

You have every right to complain about anything you want...but you're starting to sound like a bunch of old folks whining about the price of gasoline.

[D Dubbs]

You know, you've got a point. Although Cartoon Network once said that they'd air animated material 24/7, that was a rather long time ago and the network has changed quite a bit since then.

After all, it's not like Cartoon Network is named We-Will-Always-Air-Cartoons Network. Hell, they could air a cartoon for 5 minutes a day and still be called Cartoon Network.

[Dr.Pepper]

Well you would expect a channel named Cartoon Network to play cartoons all the time. Saying that they can only 5 minutes of cartoons a day and still be called Cartoon Network is like saying a channle that plays nothing but sports exept for an hour of stand up comedy, the Comedy Network.

[kewlmyc]

Ah, I remember back in the day. "Cartoon Network, all cartoons, 24/7." :sad:

[D Dubbs]

Well you would expect a channel named Cartoon Network to play cartoons all the time. Saying that they can only 5 minutes of cartoons a day and still be called Cartoon Network is like saying a channle that plays nothing but sports exept for an hour of stand up comedy, the Comedy Network.

You mean like MTV? :sweat:

But in all seriousness, while the name suggests that animation should be a majority of the programming, it doesn't imply anything about animation being 24/7. You're just taking that for granted.

[danreyes1]

Well, we'd rather not have a repeat of MTV with Cartoon Network.

I'm sorry, but when I hear a network named Cartoon Network, I expect it to play cartoons. I expect the Weather Channel to tell us the weather. I expect Animal Planet to show animal-related shows. If you decide to create a network on a theme, you should try to stay true to that theme, else you'll anger the viewers.

And really, how is complaining that Cartoon Network isn't showing cartoons anything like complaining about gas prices?

[kaleb]

And really, how is complaining that Cartoon Network isn't showing cartoons anything like complaining about gas prices?

(Nobody has complained that cartoons weren't being shown. An overwhelming majority of programming is animated.)

The gas price reference is this: Old folks sit around and complain about the prices of things, and how it was in the olden days. They don't want to acknowledge that times change and other factors come into the equation.

That's what's happening here. Things change. You can choose to sit around and grumble about everything that "sucks" OR you can cherish great memories AND try to find something positive about the future.

I know I can choose to not read the forums if I don't like them and everybody has a right to express an opinion.

I'm not criticizing any one person, but the overall mood here has been so negative. Things will change whether you like it or not. You'd probably feel better if you were more open to the fact that there will be more live action on Cartoon Network for the kids.

(Even I cringe at the thought of Cartoon Network being compared to MTV!! Where did all the music videos go?? I hope we will NEVER be saying, "where did all the cartoons go??" I believe MTV is an extreme example of straying from one's roots)

[danreyes1]

In my experience most forums in general are negative anyway. People come more to rant and argue then to have meaningful discussions.

[dmxx116]

Cartoon network have'it been the same since 2004.

[Blackstar]

When was the Last Time CN Claimed to be Animated 24/7?

A promo from about 1995-96 clearly stated that Cartoon Network would show "Cartoons and nothing but cartoons, 24 hours a day, seven days a week until the end of time".

The gas price reference is this: Old folks sit around and complain about the prices of things, and how it was in the olden days. They don't want to acknowledge that times change and other factors come into the equation.

That's what's happening here. Things change. You can choose to sit around and grumble about everything that "sucks" OR you can cherish great memories AND try to find something positive about the future.The issue, my (obviously) young friend, is this:

People don't complain as much about Nickelodeon or the Disney Channel it's programming as much because, unlike CN, Nick or Disney never claimed to all animation. When the name of your channel is CARTOON Network, people expect to see cartoons, not live action movies or TV shows. Cartoon Network showing live action movies is like ESPN suddenly showing soap operas or Lifetime showing the XFL or The Military Channel showing reruns of Hamtaro. It's ridiculous for CN to still claim to be an all animation channel when clearly this is not the direction that they want to go in now.

I don't really care that much if CN wants to change it's image and become a general kids' entertainment channel like Nickelodeon, but CN comes off looking like a bunch of hypocrites when they claim to still be an all animation channel while bringing in more and more non-animated programming. If CN would just change it's name to Turner Kids or something similar, people wouldn't be on the network's case so much. People respect the truth, not hypocrisy.

[kaleb]

I don't really care that much if CN wants to change it's image and become a general kids' entertainment channel like Nickelodeon, but CN comes off looking like a bunch of hypocrites when they claim to still be an all animation channel while bringing in more and more non-animated programming.

If they are still claiming to be an all animation channel, then that's a problem. But my original question still stands, when is the last time they claimed to be all animation?

[Blackstar]

All that needs to happen is that CN needs to change it's name. By continuing to call themselves CARTOON Network, they are still claiming to be an animation channel. Granted, less than half of CN's current programming is live action, but still, you don't tune in to Comedy Central expecting to see a WWII documentary. You don't tune in to CMT and expect to see the movie Boyz in the Hood. And similarly, you don't tune in to Cartoon Network expecting to see The School of Rock, which has nothing whatsoever to do with animation.

[Silverstar]

If they are still claiming to be an all animation channel, then that's a problem. But my original question still stands, when is the last time they claimed to be all animation?

They claim it every day by calling themselves CARTOON Network. If they no longer intend to show nothing but (or at least predominantly) cartoons anymore, then they need to stop calling themselves Cartoon Network and start calling themselves Turner Family or Turner Kids or something more appropriate. The Movie Channel shows nothing but movies, the Food Network shows nothing but food-related shows, Animal Planet shows nothing but animal-themed programming, so why shouldn't we expect Cartoon Network to remain true to its' name? I don't think anyone here is acting like crotchety old geezers for expecting a cable network to remain true to its' name. If CN wants to stop being all about animation and turn itself into a general kids' network, then that's their right to do so, but all we're saying is that they shouldn't continue to call themselves Cartoon Network in that case, because that title is no longer fitting.

[Toonfan2000]

They claim it every day with their name, CARTOON Network. If they no longer intend to show nothing but (or at least predominantly) cartoons anymore, then they need to stop calling themselves Cartoon Network and start calling themselves Turner Family or Turner Kids or something more appropriate.

Not to get nitpicky, but as long as CN exists, they will never change their name. Especially not one with "Turner" in it. If they were to change their name, something like "Kids' WB!" would be more likely. Also, they do still show predominantly cartoons. I can live with CN experimenting with live action (heck, they've been doing it since Big Bag), just so long as it doesn't take over the network. Then I'll quit watching. I'm already pretty annoyed by the over promotion of Fried Dynamite.

I promise, no further grievances from me in this thread.

[kaleb]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my posts, I really appreciate it.

Some of the live action programming does have to do with cartoons. Movies made from cartoons like Scooby Doo and Ben-10 and even movies that sparked cartoons is fair game. Also, Re-animated, as much as that annoys most people on this forum, includes cartoons. I personally think those kinds of cartoon-related live action shows should be acceptable. It expands our knowledge of cartoon history and influence.

My opinion has been swayed however with respect to non-related programming. I love School of Rock, but what in the world is it doing on Cartoon Network? You've made an excellent point! If Cartoon Network wants to air movies that have NOTHING to do with cartoons, perhaps they should consider a more general name for their network. Then viewers probably wouldn't be so mad and negative toward the network and it's programming.

[Dudley]

I think if news channels want to air stuff stuff that's not news worthy, and MTV airs stuff that's not music related, why shouldn't Cartoon Network air stuff that's not animated? So long as their programming is still mostly animated, compared to MTV, who's airing more reality shows than music, I don't think they should change their name.
And they haven't said they were "cartoons 24/7" since the 90's, and that's a long time ago.

Besides, when CN visited my art school, I actually asked them about the live action, and they say it's just experimentation. So who knows, this could be only temporary.
The more people watch live action on the channel, the more likely it's going to become mainstay. What we should be doing is boycotting it. By not even tuning in.

[D Dubbs]

I think if news channels want to air stuff stuff that's not news worthy, and MTV airs stuff that's not music related, why shouldn't Cartoon Network air stuff that's not animated? So long as their programming is still mostly animated, compared to MTV, who's airing more reality shows than music, I don't think they should change their name.
And they haven't said they were "cartoons 24/7" since the 90's, and that's a long time ago.

Besides, when CN visited my art school, I actually asked them about the live action, and they say it's just experimentation. So who knows, this could be only temporary.
The more people watch live action on the channel, the more likely it's going to become mainstay. What we should be doing is boycotting it. By not even tuning in.

I agree with this post 100%. If you don't like live action, don't watch it.

All this excessive complaining isn't going to help any.

[Blackstar]

I agree with that also. The best way to show your disdain for a TV show or a channel is to not watch it at all. Nonetheless, you have to expect a little complaining from members here. People are going to state their love/hate for things. After all, that's what public forums like this one exist for.

[danreyes1]

I've been boycotting it since Day 1. As soon as a non-cartoon appears on CN, I turn off the TV.

Here's my real problem with Live-Action on Cartoon Network, other than the whole hypocrisy thing. I've actually experienced an entire half hour without a single cartoon on TV. 75+ channels and not a single animated thing was on any of them. Not on Nickelodeon, not on Disney Channel, not on any of the educational networks, and not on Cartoon Network. Cartoon Network was the last bastion whenever I wanted to see a cartoon. If nobody else was showing one, I could count on it to show something animated, no matter how crappy. Now that is lost. I can't count on them anymore.

[Dudley]

Here's my real problem with Live-Action on Cartoon Network, other than the whole hypocrisy thing. I've actually experienced an entire half hour without a single cartoon on TV. 75+ channels and not a single animated thing was on any of them. Not on Nickelodeon, not on Disney Channel, not on any of the educational networks, and not on Cartoon Network. Cartoon Network was the last bastion whenever I wanted to see a cartoon. If nobody else was showing one, I could count on it to show something animated, no matter how crappy. Now that is lost. I can't count on them anymore.

What about Boomerang, Toon Disney, or Nicktoons Network?

[Antiyonder]

What about Boomerang, Toon Disney, or Nicktoons Network?

You act like they're basic cable channels. Even those with high finances from what I heard can barely get Boomerang.

[Dudley]

You act like they're basic cable channels. Even those with high finances from what I heard can barely get Boomerang.

Hey, I was just making sure, if he got it or not. But obviously not. :shrug:

[Jeff Harris]

Really, when?On-air?

About 2004 at the latest. But Cartoon Network hasn't been a 24-hour network since 2003, when Adult Swim stripped six nights a week.

But even today, in their press releases, they still have this "about" statement:

Cartoon Network (CartoonNetwork.com), currently seen in more than 91 million U.S. homes and 160 countries around the world, is Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.'s ad-supported cable service offering the best in original, acquired and classic animated entertainment for kids and families. Overnight from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m. Monday through Saturday and 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. Sunday (ET, PT), Cartoon Network shares its channel space with Adult Swim, a late-night destination showcasing original and acquired animation for young adults 18-34. Where is the "classic" animated entertainment? For that matter, where is the animated entertainment for families?

It is apparent that almost everyone who posts on this forum is disgusted by the live action programming shown on CN as well as that which is yet to be broadcast. CN is obviously open to mixing up their programming options.Okay. So, Cartoon Network is "mixing up" their programming options. They should air programming not pertinent to their mission statement. Alright.

So, by this argument, you would be alright with Comedy Central airing a dramatic movie like Saving Private Ryan or Sci-Fi airing the track and field preliminary rounds during next year's Olympics. Oh, and put a Presidential debate in primetime on ESPN too. Those would definitely "mix up" the programming on those channels, since the channel will continue to have a majority programming lineup consisting of comedy, science-fiction, and sports, respectedly. And by your argument, you'd be okay with that, right?

If not, then you understand why people around these parts feel so strongly about Cartoon Network's live-action direction. The problem people have is that because the network is called Cartoon Network, and because they had made promos stating they'll be 24/7 "until the end of time." Of course, when time ended in November 2005, people, understandably, got upset.

We know Cartoon Network doesn't want the readership of this board to continue watching them (legally speaking, you have to be 13 and older to post, and Cartoon Network doesn't want anyone under 13 watching anymore, and to wait a few years so they could watch Adult Swim). It just so happens that older viewers do happen to watch Cartoon Network, but the network refuses to acknowledge their existance.

OUR existance.

We are the Unacknowledged.

We make up the unseen, uncounted majority of viewers of Cartoon Network. We know the network doesn't give a damn about us, but because of the affection we had for the network in the past, we give a damn about them. We don't want them to lose their identity, and that's why we complain. Admittedly, complaining doesn't do much good because, according to the ratings sent to advertisers, we don't exist. We are invisible. Our complaints fall on deaf ears, but soon they will understand.

The Unacknowledged is growing every single day. Every day, they lose a viewer, not because they're not watching, but because they're not being counted by the network anymore. Once you hit 13, you no longer exist to Cartoon Network. They don't want nor desire your presence anymore. And when that realization hits you, then you become a member of The Unacknowledged.

[TheAnimeBoy16]

Television isn't the same anymore. Cartoon Network is trying too hard to get ratings back from Nick and Disney. It all started when the checkerboard switched to just a C and an N. I believe that we should've got the message then that things were about to change other than graphics. Other networks are going away from their original intentions (Weather Channel, TV Guide Network anybody?). TV is getting out of control. Thank god for the internet, I don't know what I'd do, other than watch TV news channels and seeing two political pundits argue with each other.

[danreyes1]

What about Boomerang, Toon Disney, or Nicktoons Network?

Not all of us get those channels. If I received Boomerang I would be a happy camper. But I don't.