View Full Version : "Goosebumps" Returns To Television This October on Cartoon Network
detective392
08-06-2007, 10:15 PM
I was reading the new tv guide and for new shows they said a new animated goosebumps series was going to start in october on CN does anyone have any info on it i love the goosebump series?
Rolling Cloud
08-06-2007, 10:52 PM
Ooh, I hope that's true. The stories were very interesting.
Kury Wagner
08-06-2007, 10:59 PM
Dude, that'd be awesome if that were true. I need some form of proof, kthx. ><
veemonjosh
08-06-2007, 11:00 PM
Proof or it's not happening.
Katsumara
08-06-2007, 11:23 PM
POIWH. (Proof or it won't happen.)
John Dorian
08-06-2007, 11:41 PM
I'll predict if it's true somebody in this forum will say something close to this:
MAN, CN IS COMING BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or if it's wrong, somebody will say something close to this:
"I knew CN will never air something that good. CN go to hell!"
MegaJ
08-06-2007, 11:43 PM
Waitamintue, Goosebumps gets a revivial while Animorphs sits and rots? Injustice.
detective392
08-07-2007, 12:29 AM
Hear is a scan of the page i took sorry the time is blured but it's 7/8c october 1st hopefully it's good and not stupid.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z14/detective393/000_0112.jpg
veemonjosh
08-07-2007, 12:32 AM
:eek:
Well there we have it. Between this and Transformers Animated, CN has taken two steps forward into becoming great once again.
Then again, Out of Jimmy's Head and Fried Dynamite have set them back 50 steps.
Frank Castle
08-07-2007, 12:35 AM
I haven't heard of Goosebumps since I was in elementary school. I hope the new series is as good as the Fox Kids version. The books and the show were pretty cool 10+ years ago.
Deadman
08-07-2007, 12:40 AM
im excited for it
danreyes1
08-07-2007, 12:44 AM
Wow. I used to read the books religiously. As long as they do a good job at it this may well be a good nostalgia boost and a reason to actually watch CN again.
Ultra8
08-07-2007, 01:57 AM
This is most interesting, never thought I'd see new goosebumps in tv form again. If it turns out to be animated, even better. My only fault with the Fox Kids series was that because it went the live-action route that meant they had to alter or skip some things that happened in the stories.
Now if they could only revived Animorphs, things would be perfect.
Daikun
08-07-2007, 02:34 AM
I wonder if this'll be a series or just a special. Considering it's airing in October, it seems like a Halloween treat.
veemonjosh
08-07-2007, 03:26 AM
I wonder if this'll be a series or just a special. Considering it's airing in October, it seems like a Halloween treat.
Or it could just be that it's kicking off in October so it gets more attention than it would at any other point of the year.
buttah
08-07-2007, 05:33 AM
Wow Goosebumps. Does that mean there are gonna be new books made or something?
J'onn J'onzz
08-07-2007, 06:51 AM
Wow...
How totally random.
Really, what provoked a new Goosebumps series.
I mean, I'll watch, but... hopefully it doesn't get shafted like Wayside did on Nickelodeon.
King_of_doom
08-07-2007, 08:44 AM
Wow, i remember Goosebumps when i was a kid and watched it, some where really scary, even if it wasn't gory or killing like Tales from the Crypt.
Sounds interesting to see a Goosebump animated, it probably will be a movie special but like veemonjosh said, it's kinda like a sneak preview on how the movie works so it later be an animated series.
I just hope they don't follow the same steps as Tales from the Crypt cartoon, when i saw the show again just made me realize it was dumb and pointless the stories and the most important, they wheren't scary at all.
Probably R.L. Stine's watching the cartoon so it can be true to his books and the show that it was on fox along time ago.
NintyScreen
08-07-2007, 09:38 AM
:) - I've also watched the original series on Fox Kids, and I even seen them on VHS & DVD. Don't forget that there will be also be a non-animated movie called "Get Out Of My Head". But all I know that it won't air on CN.
Draft
08-07-2007, 10:14 AM
Heh
I predict Special Form, and maybe a series that kicks off next year depending on ratings
detective392
08-07-2007, 10:43 AM
I'm pretty sure it's a series the tv guide was naming specials and goosebumps wasent one and it could be becuase of the new goosebumps book series launching in april goosebumps horroland and the production of the new goosebumps movie coming in 2010.
Dark Fact
08-07-2007, 10:52 AM
Wait wait. Are you saying that the new cartoon series is going to be based on the new Goosebumps novels and not the classic ones? I sure hope that's not the case.
detective392
08-07-2007, 11:51 AM
No i dont know what it's going to be based on but i think there relaunching a new series to be released with the books to get the series populer again for the new goosebumps movie.
Dark Fact
08-07-2007, 11:59 AM
Well, I would like to see them based on the classic novels myself since there were so many good ones. :)
If it is based on the classic novels, I wonder if the episodes will be based on books chosen at random or go by the original book release order?
Dr.Pepper
08-07-2007, 01:38 PM
I use to read Goosebump books like 10 years ago. They were pretty cool. I only saw the Fox Kids show like a few times. I would love to see an animated "I Live in Your Basement"my favorite Goosebump book of all time.
I use to read Goosebump books like 10 years ago. They were pretty cool. I only saw the Fox Kids show like a few times. I would love to see an animated "I Live in Your Basement"my favorite Goosebump book of all time.
The only problem is that it would be disgusting to look at.
Xerroo
08-07-2007, 02:55 PM
If this is the Live Action one...then so help CN.
Sketch
08-07-2007, 03:11 PM
I'll predict if it's true somebody in this forum will say something close to this:
MAN, CN IS COMING BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or if it's wrong, somebody will say something close to this:
"I knew CN will never air something that good. CN go to hell!"
Rather polar opposites there but one or a few good shows doesn't tend to improve the overall picture. Need I bring up the state of Toonami?
veemonjosh
08-07-2007, 04:05 PM
Rather polar opposites there but one or a few good shows doesn't tend to improve the overall picture. Need I bring up the state of Toonami?
Or the fact that Out of Jimmy's Head is still being made?
Movie06
08-07-2007, 04:36 PM
The only problem is that it would be disgusting to look at.
Disgusting, huh? That would be good, I love the Horror genre and I never knew CN would go for it, ok so Goosebumps isn't technically Horror but it's Children's Horror anyway.
DBZNarutoWarrior
08-07-2007, 09:00 PM
I haven't heard of Goosebumps since I was in elementary school. I hope the new series is as good as the Fox Kids version. The books and the show were pretty cool 10+ years ago.
My thought exactly. That good that it's starting in October, when everyone is in HALLOWEEN mode ( I <3 Halloween;) :D ). I used to be a big fan of the show and the books about 10 years ago too.
bigddan11
08-07-2007, 11:33 PM
I didn't mind the live action rendition, but I think an animated version would be a lot better, especially if they actually make them multiple parters. Some episodes, such as my personal favorite where the kid reverses time and has to go through his worst days all over, had major changes from their book form. I would defintley watch it, and I hope that Animorphs would get similar treatment shortly afterwards, as that live action series changed a lot from the novel form, and it might be better to see the kids changing into animals in an animated form.
Daikun
08-08-2007, 02:42 AM
It'd be great if they made the animation in the style of the original book covers. Those had some cool art.
Kurokawa41
08-08-2007, 12:57 PM
I remember watching the Goosebumps live action series when I was younger. Looking back now it was probably really cheesy...
Disgusting, huh? That would be good, I love the Horror genre and I never knew CN would go for it, ok so Goosebumps isn't technically Horror but it's Children's Horror anyway.
The book in question, "I live in your basement", revolves around people coughing up their insides to turn inside-out. Not something I would want to see animated.
Rolling Cloud
08-08-2007, 09:47 PM
The book in question, "I live in your basement", revolves around people coughing up their insides to turn inside-out. Not something I would want to see animated.
Nor something that would look any better in live-action. >.<
Movie06
08-08-2007, 09:49 PM
The book in question, "I live in your basement", revolves around people coughing up their insides to turn inside-out. Not something I would want to see animated.
I would, besides I've seen stuff much worse than what was in that book like Hostel for example, it's disgusting but I like it.
limel
08-08-2007, 11:46 PM
I would, besides I've seen stuff much worse than what was in that book like Hostel for example, it's disgusting but I like it.
But for a children's book/series/cartoon?
Anyways, I doubt any of the gorier ones would be made into episodes.
Movie06
08-08-2007, 11:49 PM
But for a children's book/series/cartoon?
Anyways, I doubt any of the gorier ones would be made into episodes.
CN will get away with it somehow, I mean CN does air TV-PG stuff on their network.
limel
08-08-2007, 11:55 PM
CN will get away with it somehow, I mean CN does air TV-PG stuff on their network.
That is in NO way PG. TV14 at least, possibly MA.
Movie06
08-08-2007, 11:58 PM
That is in NO way PG. TV14 at least, possibly MA.
Maybe if the show it like in a shadow or at least off screen, maybe CN will get away with it.
Daikun
08-09-2007, 12:09 AM
But for a children's book/series/cartoon?
That didn't stop Invader ZIM.
limel
08-09-2007, 12:28 AM
Maybe if the show it like in a shadow or at least off screen, maybe CN will get away with it.
I didn't think of it like it like that.
BRING IT ON!! :p
That didn't stop Invader ZIM.
Which is funny, I just watched the episode in which Dib turns inside out at one point :sweat:
Movie06
08-09-2007, 12:39 AM
Oh, I forgot about Invader Zim, if Nickelodeon can get away with stuff like that, why not CN?
DBZNarutoWarrior
08-09-2007, 12:55 AM
CN should be able to show any of the things that Goosebumps has to offer. I mean it's not bad at all, and if it was, then they might just air it later on. I'm wondering if it's just an October thing, or if they are trying to make it catch fire. I really have no clue what is going on with this though:p I've been looking around, and it seems like it's going on very quietly (whatever that might be). But hopefully I can get find some info somewhere.
J. B. Warner
08-09-2007, 01:21 AM
Wow, what are the odds? I'd been thinking for years that "Goosebumps" deserved an animated revival. The books were great, but the TV show had such a shoestring special effects budget that they couldn't pull off half of what the books described, so animation seems like the more sensible way to go.
Maybe now they can do an adaptation of #19 "Deep Trouble" that actually has something to do with the book.
Kurokawa41
08-09-2007, 01:33 AM
Animation is just not ever scary though and it's harder to be dramatic with it, in this case...
Jenico
08-09-2007, 01:50 AM
How do I post in between?
Im trying to quote somebody's post on this thread and I need to post in between?
limel
08-09-2007, 01:57 AM
How do I post in between?
Im trying to quote somebody's post on this thread and I need to post in between?
Huh?
If you just click the quote button at the bottom right of the individual post, it brings you to a reply box with that quote already filled in.
Back on topic, animation is no less dramatic than a show if done the right way, and it can be gory and explicit. Just look at Spawn.
Jenico
08-09-2007, 02:10 AM
Huh?
If you just click the quote button at the bottom right of the individual post, it brings you to a reply box with that quote already filled in.
Im was talking about posting IN Between posts. Like this one. (I hope Im doing it right)
Daikun
08-09-2007, 04:31 AM
You mean quoting multiple posts at once?
DarthGonzo
08-09-2007, 08:15 AM
You mean quoting multiple posts at once?
No I think he means posting something in the middle of a post that he's quoting.
What you do is quote the entire post, seperate the post in half and then at the end of the first half write [/quote] and at the beginning of the second half write [quote]. It's that simple.
Jenico
08-09-2007, 08:39 AM
No I think he means posting something in the middle of a post that he's quoting.
What you do is quote the entire post, seperate the post in half and then at the end of the first half write and at the beginning of the second half write . It's that simple. understand?
thanks.
detective392
08-09-2007, 12:26 PM
I dont think it's a special the tv guide named all the specials or one time shows and goosebumps wasent one of them.
Movie06
08-09-2007, 01:17 PM
I'm curious about one thing, who's involved aside from the fact R.L. Stine wrote the original Goosebumps books.
Jenico
08-09-2007, 01:57 PM
I got one tiny question for this thread.
what are goosebumps???
Rolling Cloud
08-09-2007, 02:04 PM
I got one tiny question for this thread.
what are goosebumps???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goosebumps
John Dorian
08-09-2007, 02:07 PM
I'm curious about one thing, who's involved aside from the fact R.L. Stine wrote the original Goosebumps books.
I'm thinking Deborah Forte, the main executive producer of most Scholastic productions, will be involved. She produced Scholastic shows like Clifford, Clifford's Puppy Days, the upcoming Wordgirl, The Magic School Bus, Animorphs, and The show that most people like and some people don't in this forum.........Maya and Miguel.
kaleb
08-09-2007, 02:29 PM
I'm hoping it will be based on the original R.L. Stine stuff. It's got to be animated!! There is just so much live action stuff coming out (which doesn't offend me as much as most of you.) I don't think Cartoon Network would add yet another live action show to the schedule.
Probably can't get too scary with a cartoon though, but I can see the blood and guts theme going on. A cartoon series would be great!
Movie06
08-09-2007, 02:36 PM
I'm thinking Deborah Forte, the main executive producer of most Scholastic productions, will be involved. She produced Scholastic shows like Clifford, Clifford's Puppy Days, the upcoming Wordgirl, The Magic School Bus, Animorphs, and The show that most people like and some people don't in this forum.........Maya and Miguel.
Oh my god, I hate Maya and Miguel, I just hope she won't screw up Goosebumps.
livingfruitvirus
08-18-2007, 01:05 AM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox.
Goosebumps takes place in a strange reality, where nothing is as it seems. Normal kids find themselves trapped within and exposed to the paranormality that this world has to offer. And in each situation, they must find a way to get themselves out. From evil Halloween masks to werewolves. From scarecrows to dummies. From haunted amusement parks and toy towns that come to life, in Goosebumps, anything can happen!
During the month of October, Goosebumps, a live-action series based on the award-winning book series, written by R.L. Stine, will air on Friday nights at 8:00pm and 8:30pm on Cartoon Network.
Rolling Cloud
08-18-2007, 01:07 AM
****!
I'm really losing respect for CN. >_>
John Dorian
08-18-2007, 01:49 AM
CN's heart turned cold a year ago. I'm starting to realize that Turner Kids will become a reality again.........as if it wasn't.:(
veemonjosh
08-18-2007, 06:54 AM
Wait, so...
Live-action on CN? Bad.
The FOX Kids series? FRIGGIN SWEET!!!
Speaking of Goosebumps, it looks like CN is also airing the new Haunting Hour movie next month. Looks like Goosebumps-mania is sweeping the nation once more!
Daikun
08-18-2007, 07:25 AM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox.
Oh, dear. A quote without a link or scan. Whatever shall we do?
yoshirider13
08-18-2007, 11:31 AM
Yeah there is some Goosebumps special on september 7th. It would be cool to see the old Goosebumps series again. I remember watching it everyday on Fox Family. (before it went ABC) But I dont want it on CN! Maybe if it was on Nick it would be fine.
bigddan11
08-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox.
I suppose that's possible, but according to TV Guide, and I'm talking the magazine, not the Web site, it's a new animated series. I guess we'll have to wait until CN begins airing promos for it to know for certain. Since 'Out Of Jimmy's Head' will air in the spot right after that though, then it's looking like Fried Dynamite might be more live action than have actual CN cartoon premieres.
kewlmyc
08-18-2007, 11:47 AM
I don't care if it's live action, just the fact that we get to see the original series is worth it.
Christopher Soul
08-18-2007, 01:45 PM
I've lost all reason to watch Cartoon Network period. Just certain shows on Toonami at that. Seriously..
I'm with Jeff on t just being "The Network"
detective392
08-18-2007, 01:57 PM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox. Do you have a link to that information i dont think the tv guide made a mistake with r.l stines new haunting hour movie coming to dvd and tv in september and the new goosebumps book series in 2008 and the movie in 2010 there proberly trying to revive the series so they wouldent put the old eps on tv nowadays.
danreyes1
08-18-2007, 02:49 PM
And Cartoon Network continues to disappoint. It's like being in an abusive relationship.
Discloner
08-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Oh, dear. A quote without a link or scan. Whatever shall we do?Because LFV totally pulls stuff out of his ass all the time; and clearly has no idea what's what pertaining to Cartoon Network. :rolleyes:
Anyway, it goes without saying that I'm continually disheartened by the addition of live action to Cartoon Network...but that aside, what does it say about the network's ability to create their own, new, original, things if all they can do is buy things that were made in the 90's?
macattack
08-18-2007, 02:58 PM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox.
Oh, field fairies.
detective392
08-18-2007, 03:58 PM
Because LFV totally pulls stuff out of his ass all the time; and clearly has no idea what's what pertaining to Cartoon Network. :rolleyes:
Anyway, it goes without saying that I'm continually disheartened by the addition of live action to Cartoon Network...but that aside, what does it say about the network's ability to create their own, new, original, things if all they can do is buy things that were made in the 90's? It would still be good to have a link i'm still trusting the tv guide till i get a link to confirm it it would be stupid to play the old eps when there trying to revive the series when kids today would laugh and the special effects and stuff when only the old fans who have watched the orginal would like it.
Matt Hazuda
08-18-2007, 04:39 PM
It would still be good to have a link i'm still trusting the tv guide till i get a link to confirm it it would be stupid to play the old eps when there trying to revive the series when kids today would laugh and the special effects and stuff when only the old fans who have watched the orginal would like it.Sometimes the credibility of the user more than covers for the lack of link. LFV has proved to be a viable source time and again, so most of us trust him in situations like this.
NintyScreen
08-18-2007, 05:44 PM
Cartoon Network (CN) + Live Action = Bad
Cartoon Network (CN) + Goosebumps + Live Action = Good/Bad
Lavenderpaw
08-18-2007, 06:04 PM
I saw the commercial for a Goosebumps movie and Emily Osment (Lilly from HM wearing a purple-ish wig) is in it.So,it's not the old series or an animated show...it's just a movie that may spawn a new series possibly.No one else saw that commercial?
Mugen
08-18-2007, 06:07 PM
I saw the commercial for a Goosebumps movie and Emily Osment (Lilly from HM wearing a purple-ish wig) is in it.So,it's not the old series or an animated show...it's just a movie that may spawn a new series possibly.No one else saw that commercial?
Oh, I was wondering why CN was promoting her name in the commercial. Trying to get some of that HM audience.
veemonjosh
08-18-2007, 06:26 PM
I saw the commercial for a Goosebumps movie and Emily Osment (Lilly from HM wearing a purple-ish wig) is in it.So,it's not the old series or an animated show...it's just a movie that may spawn a new series possibly.No one else saw that commercial?
Uh, I mentioned that earlier:
Speaking of Goosebumps, it looks like CN is also airing the new Haunting Hour movie next month.
And the TV Guide article said Goosebumps in October. This Haunting Hour movie is airing in SEPTEMBER.
detective392
08-18-2007, 06:38 PM
Haunting hour isnt a new goosebumps it's just a movie from r.l stine the creator of goosebumps it airs on tv september 7th and the dvd comes out september 4th.
Dudley
08-19-2007, 02:01 AM
Okay, I let all the live action stuff on CN slide.
But this? No. I'm not going to watch it. Not even give it a chance.
Movie06
08-19-2007, 02:48 AM
Okay, I let all the live action stuff on CN slide.
But this? No. I'm not going to watch it. Not even give it a chance.
Why not? You don't like Horror?
Sketch
08-19-2007, 03:43 AM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox.
Under other circumstances I'd be happy to see that show again but on Cartoon Network? What a load of rubbish. Live action movies usually with some kind of cartoon tie in is one thing, hybrid shows are another thing but a purley live action series on Cartoon Network? If they've haven't gone too far yet, they have now.
MegaJ
08-19-2007, 04:04 AM
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but it looks like CN is going to be running the old 1990s Goosebumps series from Fox.
LAME. Though the TV series wasn't bad, unlike the Animorphs one which was a disgrace.
Draft
08-19-2007, 09:24 AM
Wow...
Lame
Cartoon Network is really retarded to do this. Just airing an old series that has really no corrolation to today's society, and like Al Kahn says, Kids don't read, and that unfortunatly is the truth
TheFZAtUGSOnline
08-19-2007, 10:01 AM
im suprised that new Haunting Hour film will have Lilly as the starring role (Emily if you don't know your Hannah Montana), i might just tune in...
Movie06
08-19-2007, 01:06 PM
and like Al Kahn says, Kids don't read, and that unfortunatly is the truth
Actually, he's wrong about that; I see kids read, they even read Manga. Mr. Kahn apprently did his research wrong.
Sketch
08-19-2007, 01:30 PM
I just saw the promo for Haunting Hour... I thought I was watching Nickelodeon for a moment despite Steven Blum doing the voice over. Seriously though... what on earth is Cartoon Network doing? Why not make an animated horror movie and air that? Sigh...
Dr.Pepper
08-19-2007, 01:48 PM
It's live action. Dang it! Oh well maybe now I can see all the episodes that I missed like 10 years ago.
Movie06
08-19-2007, 01:51 PM
I just saw the promo for Haunting Hour... I thought I was watching Nickelodeon for a moment despite Steven Blum doing the voice over. Seriously though... what on earth is Cartoon Network doing? Why not make an animated horror movie and air that? Sigh...
Money issues maybe?
Draft
08-19-2007, 03:10 PM
I know, i just wanted to get a cheap shot at Al Kahn, but really, kids tdo read less these days, and i know since i'm one of em. I've had to sit next to people who sleep when the teacher is reading a book we're doing a report on. But kids do read less these days, and kds would rather read a book about Assorted Disney or Nick Product than real book series like Goosebumps
CN Has no money issues, they have quality issues. They should know that reairing something as old and calling it new is not right, and should be sent to the Bad Bussiness Bearueu..
But now that a fully read past posts, i see that they are making a movie.., now that's a good thign, except maybe air the movie a month later...
John Dorian
08-19-2007, 03:48 PM
It reminds me on what Squatt and Kutter of The Terrible Thunderlizards (Eek! The Cat) would say:
Squatt: Having live action on CN is a bad thing, right Kutter?
Kutter: Yes Squatt, having old shows coming to CN and they say is new along with dumb OOJH and other stuff that's not worth it would fit nicely INTO THE BAD THINGS CATEGORY!
yoshirider13
08-19-2007, 03:49 PM
I spotted a pokemon pillow case in that boys room on that commercial! XD
Movie06
08-19-2007, 03:52 PM
I know, i just wanted to get a cheap shot at Al Kahn, but really, kids tdo read less these days, and i know since i'm one of em. I've had to sit next to people who sleep when the teacher is reading a book we're doing a report on. But kids do read less these days, and kds would rather read a book about Assorted Disney or Nick Product than real book series like Goosebumps
CN Has no money issues, they have quality issues. They should know that reairing something as old and calling it new is not right, and should be sent to the Bad Bussiness Bearueu..
But now that a fully read past posts, i see that they are making a movie.., now that's a good thign, except maybe air the movie a month later...
Trust me, I've seen kids read. And as for CN, maybe they thought if they brought in live action it'll get them into the top of the ratings like Disney and Nickelodeon. Anyway, I just found out Tobin Bell is in The Haunting Hour, this guy is one of my favorite actors and I'm a huge fan of the Saw films, can't wait for that movie to air because Jigsaw is going to make it rock.
Kitschensyngk
08-19-2007, 09:42 PM
I wouldn't object to this if it were animated. I bet this would've looked GREAT as a cartoon.
Movie06
08-19-2007, 09:47 PM
I wouldn't object to this if it were animated. I bet this would've looked GREAT as a cartoon.
If it was animated, would it still have Tobin Bell as The Stranger?
Martianinvader
08-19-2007, 10:40 PM
CN Has no money issues, they have quality issues. They should know that reairing something as old and calling it new is not right, and should be sent to the Bad Bussiness Bearueu...
I heard the Bad Bussiness Bearueu is actually a front for an illiterate drug-dealing cartel. Why don't you try the Better Business Bureau instead?
Anyway, it depends on what it is. I didn't mind when Toon Disney called The Tick a new show. And there are people that want to see Goosebumps again. (Though I don't think this is the place for it either.)
Yes, CN was once for adults. These were in the years when it was premium, so adults would be paying to get it and Ted Turner had an obligation to please them.
But kids were watching in the homes that had it, so they decided to make the channel "normal" and start building up an original cartoon library. Once the Cartoon Cartoons started catching on with children, and Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff Girls and Toonami became hits, the network's selling point shifted. When Adult Swim debuted, they no longer felt a good reason to please adults in the daytime hours.
From that point on, CN has been sold as a primarily children's network. And right now, live-action sitcoms starring kids and musicals in high schools are popular with them. CN has very little choice but to go where the ratings are going, else they lose advertisers. You might be wondering why they don't just change the name to Turner Kids right now. I think the only reason they're wary of completely changing over is because cartoons have always been popular among kids, and giving away cable's most popular network solely for cartoons could be a mistake in the future.
HOWEVER....all CN needs is one megapopular live-action show that outsells Raven, Hannah and Zac, and you can kiss your cartoon-based network goodbye. This is what made them change to kids in the first place--success, and outselling Nickelodeon for a brief period. If the money heads there in droves, that's where they'll go, brand preservation or not. If you want the CN name to survive, then start praying.
But the adult-pleasing all-the-time CN is probably gone forever. It's harsh, but this is what happens. Business focuses change all the time--you have to adapt to survive.
There won't be a network for cartoon fans again, or at least not one with the library size that Turner had.
bigddan11
08-19-2007, 10:44 PM
I pulled out my TV Guide Magazine to see what it says again, and this is what it says:
Goosebumps
PREMIERES 10/1, 8/7 C, CARTOON NETWORK
Not for the easily frightened, this animated series, based on R. L. Stine's popular books, goes inside the ghoulish reality of the Goosebumps world, where ordinary kids must use their wits to survive a paranormally perilios fate. Boo!
October 1 is a Monday night, so I think they will air Goosebumps as a Halloween thing. The old series had 74 episodes, but them saying animated series would put TV Guide at risk for a law suit if it's not a new series. Since they probably got that information from CN, the could then sue CN.
NelStone
08-19-2007, 11:48 PM
It's all really weird because I was just thinking about R.L. Stine and Goosebumps a few days back and then those Haunting Hour commercials began to air.
Ah, Goosebumps, you pissed me off whenever you screwed over the main character(s) at the end of a book, but I loved you anyway.:D
danreyes1
08-20-2007, 12:01 AM
Yes, CN was once for adults. These were in the years when it was premium, so adults would be paying to get it and Ted Turner had an obligation to please them.
You know, that always confused me. In my household, it wasn't a premium. We got it on regular cable (However, Disney Channel was a premium, so I never got to see it before it started sucking). Everywhere else I went didn't get it. Was it a premium in 90% of the country or something, or did we just have a special cable service that allowed Cartoon Network on it?
detective392
08-20-2007, 01:38 AM
Well looks like cartoon network will be getting a lot of hate since millions of people old and new goosebump fans are waiting for a new animated show and instead they give us the old show thats on dvd already anyways but hopefully this means we can get season sets if it does good.
dmxx116
08-20-2007, 02:36 AM
Good another show that will suck.(IMO)
Emperor Fred
08-20-2007, 05:24 PM
I pulled out my TV Guide Magazine to see what it says again, and this is what it says:
"Not for the easily frightened, this animated series, based on R. L. Stine's popular books, goes inside the ghoulish reality of the Goosebumps world, where ordinary kids must use their wits to survive a paranormally perilios fate. Boo!"
The old series had 74 episodes, but them saying animated series would put TV Guide at risk for a law suit if it's not a new series. Since they probably got that information from CN, the could then sue CN.Really, I imagine its just a simple (and tragic) misunderstanding. Nobody's going to sue anybody. Mistakes happen. Understandably, TV Guide got the information that CN would be airing a Goosebumps series - which they were probably promoting as "new" (to CN, of course) - and the TV Guide writer just assumed that since it was airing on Cartoon Network, it was a new animated series. Pretty reasonable, right? Not that CN has had much use for reason...
Jeff Harris
08-20-2007, 05:29 PM
There won't be a network for cartoon fans again, or at least not one with the library size that Turner had.I don't think there will be an animation channel for cartoon fans as diverse as Cartoon Network was because, but I do think there is an opportunity for a new animation channel in the United States.
I'm a little ticked at the DiC/Corus partnership for creating a global brand everywhere BUT the United States. I'm a little ticked that Entertainment Rights, who has accumulated quite a library of old and new animation properties (including Rocky and Bullwinkle, Underdog, Rankin-Bass, Mr. Magoo, and countless others) hasn't even at least considered a US network. And I'm a little sickened that Sony and Liberty Media has stalled efforts to launch Animax in the States, though the brand is almost everywhere BUT the United States. I'm sure a combination of one or two of those elements would create a decent channel.
But it'll never happen, sad to say.
Scythemantis
08-20-2007, 05:47 PM
Why not? You don't like Horror?
No, it just isn't a very good show. I don't think it holds up well at all, and was certainly not very horrifying. Even the books, which I got into as a kid, were too goofy to ever actually creep me out, with the sole exception of the first "Haunted Mask" story.
And what the crap was up with "Deep Trouble?" You have a Goosebumps book with a blood-drooling shark on the cover and the story is an action-adventure about mermaids. Not horror, not even kiddie horror. What a waste of my hard-earned three dollars that was.
Movie06
08-20-2007, 06:27 PM
No, it just isn't a very good show. I don't think it holds up well at all, and was certainly not very horrifying. Even the books, which I got into as a kid, were too goofy to ever actually creep me out, with the sole exception of the first "Haunted Mask" story.
And what the crap was up with "Deep Trouble?" You have a Goosebumps book with a blood-drooling shark on the cover and the story is an action-adventure about mermaids. Not horror, not even kiddie horror. What a waste of my hard-earned three dollars that was.
Oh ok, I was just curious that's all and for the record, I agree with you about Deep Trouble.
D Dubbs
08-20-2007, 06:41 PM
Man, I read all the Goosebumps books back when I was a kid, but I never saw the TV series.
I'm totally looking forward to this...
Sketch
08-20-2007, 06:51 PM
I don't think there will be an animation channel for cartoon fans as diverse as Cartoon Network was because, but I do think there is an opportunity for a new animation channel in the United States.
I'm a little ticked at the DiC/Corus partnership for creating a global brand everywhere BUT the United States. I'm a little ticked that Entertainment Rights, who has accumulated quite a library of old and new animation properties (including Rocky and Bullwinkle, Underdog, Rankin-Bass, Mr. Magoo, and countless others) hasn't even at least considered a US network. And I'm a little sickened that Sony and Liberty Media has stalled efforts to launch Animax in the States, though the brand is almost everywhere BUT the United States. I'm sure a combination of one or two of those elements would create a decent channel.
But it'll never happen, sad to say.
The problem is, no companies want to go up against Nick and Disney for youth ratings and no major company is willing to gamble on teens and adults watching cartoons in the day time except for anime distributors. That's why we have 2 anime channels, why there isn't a cartoon channel for hardcore viewers unless you count those and why AS will continue to be a night time exclusive outside of their website.
bigddan11
08-20-2007, 06:59 PM
Really, I imagine its just a simple (and tragic) misunderstanding. Nobody's going to sue anybody. Mistakes happen. Understandably, TV Guide got the information that CN would be airing a Goosebumps series - which they were probably promoting as "new" (to CN, of course) - and the TV Guide writer just assumed that since it was airing on Cartoon Network, it was a new animated series. Pretty reasonable, right? Not that CN has had much use for reason...
TV Guide Magazine isn't supposed to publish items stating it's a new series unless that's what CN sent them, much less a new animated series. It's called false advertising. It's what helps them avoid law suits in the first place. They publish a warning in each magazine that states the TV listings are subject to change, but that only applies to the listings, no the magazine description part.
Sketch
08-20-2007, 08:57 PM
Are you just trying to play devil's advocate here or are you confident CN is going to air a new animated Goosebumps series this October?
Matt Hazuda
08-20-2007, 09:29 PM
TV Guide Magazine isn't supposed to publish items stating it's a new series unless that's what CN sent them, much less a new animated series. It's called false advertising. It's what helps them avoid law suits in the first place. They publish a warning in each magazine that states the TV listings are subject to change, but that only applies to the listings, no the magazine description part.And things like typos do happen. Especially when the person doing the copy is writing something about Cartoon Network and is under the impression that a cartoon is what is coming. This is what happens when companies give as little information as possible, thinking it'll build interest somehow, but then leads to confusion. Confusion leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and then a Sith is born :evil:
G1Ravage
08-20-2007, 10:42 PM
WOW! Live-action on CN = teh suck, but I LOVED the original Goosebumps TV show, and I sure as hell am gonna record it when it airs in October.
bigddan11
08-20-2007, 11:49 PM
Are you just trying to play devil's advocate here or are you confident CN is going to air a new animated Goosebumps series this October?
I'm not playing the devils advocate. I'm playing the realist, which points out how much trouble these groups can get into for false advertising. If CN didn't say it was a new animated series, then TV Guide is the one that would take all the heap should any law suit come forth. If TV Guide used a CN press release, then CN is the one who would get in trouble for false advertising. I'm a journalist, and I know how much trouble can be caused for false advertising, as I had to study many cases on it, so if this is wrong, then they need to publish a retraction and do it soon. This will prevent them from being libel for false advertising.
I frankly don't care which version it is. I've wanted to record "The Cuckoo Clock of Doom," but I would have liked a newer version of it that's more faithful to the books than the abridged version the live action provides us. Still, I'll be perfectly satisfied with the older version. If they should read these forums though, I want them to know there are people that are looking for every small thing that can be exposed.
Matt Hazuda
08-20-2007, 11:53 PM
I'm not playing the devils advocate. I'm playing the realist, which points out how much trouble these groups can get into for false advertising. If CN didn't say it was a new animated series, then TV Guide is the one that would take all the heap should any law suit come forth.Lawsuit? You're really grasping at straws now. no one is going to sue anybody over a typo in a one paragraph blurb about a TV show airing.
bigddan11
08-20-2007, 11:59 PM
Lawsuit? You're really grasping at straws now. no one is going to sue anybody over a typo in a one paragraph blurb about a TV show airing.
It has happened before. I'm not grasping at straws. Anytime false advertising gets published in a national magazine, it can result in a libel lawsuit. There are books out there which also discuss he many types of suits that can result from false advertising. It only takes one person to cause a law suit, but that never means it'll actually be brought to trial. Still, if the claim is found to be legit, it can lead to many lawsuits. The catch is that it has to be filed within two-to-three years. It's better to publish a retraction beforehand to prevent it from occurring.
Sketch
08-21-2007, 01:34 AM
If they should read these forums though, I want them to know there are people that are looking for every small thing that can be exposed.
I think you need a new hobby.
BCVM22
08-21-2007, 01:42 AM
I think you need a new hobby.
Good lord man, seriously? From you?
dmxx116
08-21-2007, 03:15 AM
Good lord man, seriously? From you?
You think better then the rest of us bro.
BCVM22
08-21-2007, 03:25 AM
Say what.
Emperor Fred
08-21-2007, 04:21 AM
Anytime false advertising gets published in a national magazine, it can result in a libel lawsuit. There are books out there which also discuss he many types of suits that can result from false advertising.The flaw I see in that logic is that TV Guide articles are journalism, not advertising. They're promoting CN programming, not accepting money to advertise it. (At least, not officially, to you cynical skeptics out there.) Like any promotional journalism (like even the good folks here at Toon Zone), a network like CN may send them information on their programming or screeners and the like, and then the writers and editorial staff are free to promote it if they feel its worth promoting, or even to harshly critique it - ever heard of "Cheers & Jeers?" They don't fork over a large check and say "We want you to say exactly _this_, and if you deviate from it in any way we'll sue you for false advertising." That's ludicrous!
Movie06
08-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Anyway, has anyone noticed that this TV Movie is actually doing something the Disney and Nickelodeon Halloween specials failed to do? Because it actually looks scary.
Dr.Pepper
08-21-2007, 02:03 PM
Yes, CN was once for adults. These were in the years when it was premium, so adults would be paying to get it and Ted Turner had an obligation to please them.
It was never premium in my house.
marcnbrian
08-21-2007, 02:25 PM
Anyway, has anyone noticed that this TV Movie is actually doing something the Disney and Nickelodeon Halloween specials failed to do? Because it actually looks scary.
I think so too. The Disney Halloween movies are all "trick or treat" scary....like fake ghosts and stuff. I mean, how scary can Debbie Reynolds be? But this looks legitmately scary....it stars Tobin Bell from SAW!! :eek: :eek:
I'll plan on watching. And I'll probably tune in for some of Goosebumps too since I haven't seen those in like 10 years and remember them being pretty freaky as well.
Movie06
08-21-2007, 02:34 PM
I think so too. The Disney Halloween movies are all "trick or treat" scary....like fake ghosts and stuff. I mean, how scary can Debbie Reynolds be? But this looks legitmately scary....it stars Tobin Bell from SAW!! :eek: :eek:
Tobin Bell is one of my favorite actors because of Saw and I'm so pleased to see him in R.L. Stine's The Haunting Hour, I'm seeing that and Saw IV.
Tobin 'Jigsaw' Bell rocks!
bigddan11
08-21-2007, 02:39 PM
The flaw I see in that logic is that TV Guide articles are journalism, not advertising. They're promoting CN programming, not accepting money to advertise it. (At least, not officially, to you cynical skeptics out there.) Like any promotional journalism (like even the good folks here at Toon Zone), a network like CN may send them information on their programming or screeners and the like, and then the writers and editorial staff are free to promote it if they feel its worth promoting, or even to harshly critique it - ever heard of "Cheers & Jeers?" They don't fork over a large check and say "We want you to say exactly _this_, and if you deviate from it in any way we'll sue you for false advertising." That's ludicrous!
There's a difference between what you claim TZ is and what TV Guide Magazine is. TV Guide Magazine can publish specific areas as journalism or as advertisements. They can't publish them as opinions, unless it's under the area of being an editorial. This particular issue is a guide to what will be on TV this fall, meaning it is advertising for those networks, as usually the companies pay TV Guide to mention specific shows they will air this year, but it is also journalism, since 2 TV guide writers compiled the article together. The two article writers could be sued for publishing false information by almost anyone. If they based their report on an article from CN, then CN could be sued for false advertising, and the case against the journalists would be dropped. I keep a close eye out because I am a journalist. Any comments I make are my own opinion, unless I give specific sources to back them up, but as one can learn from having studied the history of juonrlism, any time false information is published, it is believed to have been from a case of not researching enough information, which results in possible lawsuits.
As for those saying I need a new hobby, journalism isn't a hobby for me. It's a job, which I love, and I usually load any story I publish with direct quotes so people know I have no biase in an issue.
In this case, as I said before, I don't care if it's the old Goosebumps series, though I would have preferred getting a new animated one solely so they don't rush through the books story or have the limitations live-action has. I will say I'm surprised they are picking up Goosebumps over The Nightmare Room though. While Goosebumps is typically better, The Nightmare Room only had 13 episodes made, and if you air it 4 nights a week, like I believe will be the case with Goosebumps, and if it's only a month-long Halloween special, then one assures you show every episode, while the other means you only show the "best of," meaning many of the episodes people would want to see probably won't be shown.
weirdojace
08-21-2007, 05:29 PM
I loved this show as a kid, but watching it on Cartoon Network?? Uhh... no, that doesn't fit.
Oh well, I can probably use this opportunity to capture all the episodes. I've been wanting to archive this show for a while.
veemonjosh
08-21-2007, 05:43 PM
I will say I'm surprised they are picking up Goosebumps over The Nightmare Room though. While Goosebumps is typically better, The Nightmare Room only had 13 episodes made, and if you air it 4 nights a week, like I believe will be the case with Goosebumps, and if it's only a month-long Halloween special, then one assures you show every episode, while the other means you only show the "best of," meaning many of the episodes people would want to see probably won't be shown.
Plus, The Nightmare Room might already be part of Time Warner's library, as it aired on Kids WB.
John Dorian
08-21-2007, 05:57 PM
Plus, The Nightmare Room might already be part of Time Warner's library, as it aired on Kids WB.
{Buzz}, wrong answer. Scholastic (Magic School Bus, Clifford, Maya and Miguel (ugh)) owns that and Goosebumps.
Movie06
08-21-2007, 06:06 PM
So, is anyone looking to The Haunting Hour besides me? Come on, you have to admit; it actually looks scary and it has Tobin 'Jigsaw' Bell, who wouldn't want to see him?
Sketch
08-21-2007, 06:21 PM
Well I might enjoy it if I were still 6 years old. I'd rather watch you know... a real horror movie. But let the kiddies get their thrills... though I still want to smack CN for airing something that has nothing to do with cartoons.
Movie06
08-21-2007, 06:33 PM
Well I might enjoy it if I were still 6 years old. I'd rather watch you know... a real horror movie. But let the kiddies get their thrills... though I still want to smack CN for airing something that has nothing to do with cartoons.
But unlike most kiddie Horror Shows/Movies, this one actually looks scary and it's written by Dan angel and Billy Brown, the creators of Night Visions but besides, I'm mostly seeing it because Tobin Bell is in it, how can anyone not like the man who played Jigsaw/John Kramer. But ok, like you I'd rather watch a real Horror movie but I always look for something scary that appeals to me or at least if it's bloody I'll go for it too.
EscaflownePilot
08-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Well I might enjoy it if I were still 6 years old. I'd rather watch you know... a real horror movie. But let the kiddies get their thrills... though I still want to smack CN for airing something that has nothing to do with cartoons.Wow. Isn't that the same kind of terrible close-minded logic most animation fans hate? What if I said "well, I might enjoy One Piece if I were 6 years old, but I'd rather watch... you know, a real action/adventure movie".
Not saying there isn't a good chance it won't be scary, but pre-judging something based on target demographic alone isn't exactly something that sits well with me.
I'd watch it in a heartbeat were it on another network - looks potentially good, IMO. But, alas, I can't bring myself to support any live-action, good or bad, on Cartoon Network.
veemonjosh
08-21-2007, 07:42 PM
{Buzz}, wrong answer. Scholastic (Magic School Bus, Clifford, Maya and Miguel (ugh)) owns that and Goosebumps.
I refuse to acknowledge the existance of Clifford and Maya and Miguel.
Movie06
08-21-2007, 07:52 PM
I refuse to acknowledge the existance of Clifford and Maya and Miguel.
Me too.
bigddan11
08-21-2007, 09:26 PM
I refuse to acknowledge the existance of Clifford and Maya and Miguel.
I acknowledge Clifford. It's a good series for pre-schoolers. I do plan on recording The Haunting Hour as well just to see how corny it is.
Hanshotfirst113
08-22-2007, 05:07 PM
If they should read these forums though, I want them to know there are people that are looking for every small thing that can be exposed.
I kinda think what the people on these forums think is not really top their priority list.
I think you need a new hobby.
Don't we all?
Good lord man, seriously? From you?
You think better then the rest of us bro.
Say what.
Whaaaaat?
John Dorian
08-22-2007, 06:20 PM
Me too.
Almost everybody hates Maya and Miguel.
Sketch
08-22-2007, 06:51 PM
Wow. Isn't that the same kind of terrible close-minded logic most animation fans hate? What if I said "well, I might enjoy One Piece if I were 6 years old, but I'd rather watch... you know, a real action/adventure movie".
Not saying there isn't a good chance it won't be scary, but pre-judging something based on target demographic alone isn't exactly something that sits well with me.
I'd watch it in a heartbeat were it on another network - looks potentially good, IMO. But, alas, I can't bring myself to support any live-action, good or bad, on Cartoon Network.
I like a lot of kids shows and movies but it'd be entirely too rare for a children's horror movie to be well... scary or all that suspenseful. And I don't much like horror movies in general. Haven't seen any of the Saw movies so having Jigsaw's actor in it doesn't matter to me at all.
How many youth oriented products in the US lack substance these days? A lot. Why should I expect this to have substance when it already looks poorly made reguardless of who wrote it or who is in it. I might watch it for a laugh if it was on Disney or Nick though.
I pretty hate all modern tween dramadies on Nick and Disney and would rather watch Gilmore Girls, The OC, Everwood or One Tree Hill. For a similar reason I'd rather watch a movie actually aimed towards older teen/adult audiences than a horror movie aimed at tweens. Comedy movies for tweens... I'll watch some of those. Action movies... sometimes as well. Horror movies? No thanks. I've got better things to do.
Movie06
08-22-2007, 07:07 PM
Oh well, I know I'll enjoy it mainly because it looks scary and it has Tobin Bell, Jigsaw forever dude.
Darklordavaitor
08-22-2007, 07:38 PM
If it's a new animated series, no high hopes, but I'll give it a shot.
If it's the 90's series, don't remember it, will watch it, maybe, but doesn't Disney own it, anyway?
And as for this new movie, as much as I like Emily Osment(she's the talented one in HM, admit it), no. Just no.
John Dorian
08-22-2007, 08:33 PM
If it's a new animated series, no high hopes, but I'll give it a shot.
If it's the 90's series, don't remember it, will watch it, maybe, but doesn't Disney own it, anyway?
And as for this new movie, as much as I like Emily Osment(she's the talented one in HM, admit it), no. Just no.
Scholastic owns it.
NintyScreen
08-24-2007, 02:00 PM
A sneak preview of the movie can be seen on CN Video
The website for it has been made; Advertisment on CN.com links to site
CN will air the original Goosebumps on October 1st at 8PM (Eastern)
Dr.Pepper
08-24-2007, 02:38 PM
I saw the commercial for the movie. It is so Disney Channel.
Movie06
08-24-2007, 02:42 PM
I saw the commercial for the movie. It is so Disney Channel.
What? Would Disney Channel ever think about casting Tobin Bell and actually make it look scary?
NintyScreen
08-24-2007, 04:20 PM
What? Would Disney Channel ever think about casting Tobin Bell and actually make it look scary?
The only thing Disney with the cast is that they got a star from Hannah Montana. Most of the stars from the movie happens to be outside of Live-Action shows that the other channel shows.
Movie06
08-24-2007, 04:30 PM
The only thing Disney with the cast is that they got a star from Hannah Montana. Most of the stars from the movie happens to be outside of Live-Action shows that the other channel shows.
But unlike Disney, The Haunting Hour actually looks scary.
Sketch
08-24-2007, 06:03 PM
1) I doubt CN is in the production credits for this little number so who is casted and what not wasn't up to them. This was probably pitched to various networks and CN took it.
2) What's so scary about that promo? Oh my word a hand just grabbed that small boy... That could be something COMPLETELY different. :anime:
Movie06
08-24-2007, 06:06 PM
1) I doubt CN is in the production credits for this little number so who is casted and what not wasn't up to them. This was probably pitched to various networks and CN took it.
2) What's so scary about that promo? Oh my word a hand just grabbed that small boy... That could be something COMPLETELY different. :anime:
At least the mood of the film looks scary and Tobin Bell in my opinion might make this TV movie work.
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