Scrappy Doo ruined the original Scooby Doo franchise?

[zoombie]

I have heard this for a while that Scrabby Doo ruined the original Scooby Doo franchise.

Scrabby Doo was an annying character in my opinon, and ruined the chemistry of the Mystery Solving gang. But in my opinion he didn't ruin the franchised because it was already ruined.

After the original 1969 - 71 Scooby Doo Whera Are You! show, it started to decline, and the downfall was the celebirty guests like the Harlem Globetaughters, Sonny And Cher, etc., and further getting away from the original formula. All this happened before Scrabby Doo arrived. He further ruined the franchised, but it started long before Scrabby Doo appeared. He made a bad thing worst.

[Kolbar]

Well, first of all, it's Scrappy Doo, and no I don't think he ruined the franchise. He brought something new to the show's formula in order for Scooby to come back for another season. You can't keep having the same thing over and over, so they added Scrappy to spice things up. I'm in the very small minority of people who can actually tolerate Scrappy and/or actually like him, so it's all a matter of opinion.

[Silverstar]

I'm admittedly not a Scrappy-Doo fan (though I'm not a huge fan of the Scooby franchise in general), but I have to go with the opinion that Scooby-Doo was getting long in the tooth before Scrappy arrived, as evident by the constant attention-getting tactics such as more and more guest stars, etc.

My only real issues with Scrappy were:
He changed the entire dynamic of the show during the "fake ghost" era. Scrappy, unlike Shaggy, Scooby and the rest of Mysteries, Inc., was inclined to actually pursue the ghost or menace of the week rather than run away from it. This begged the question: why didn't Fred or the whole gang just clobber the ghost when they first saw it? Surely, by that time they had to have picked up on the pattern that every 'ghost' they'd encountered up to that point was a phony.
His battle cry of "Puppy power!" was grating on the nerves.
By the time of Scrappy's arrival, Fred, Daphne and Velma were all but reduced to cyphers. Their characters became so ludicrously unimportant on the series that their very presence became something of a joke. Sure enough, a season or so later, Velma, Fred and Daphne were all gone and it was just Scoob, Shag and the Scrapster tooling around the country in the Mystery Machine being chased by everbody.So while I didn't necessarily agree with the addition of Scrappy, I agree that the original formula was tired, and a change needed to occur to keep the series fresh.

[zoombie]

Oops got his name wrong, shows how big of a fan I am of that character, I wish they let me edit thread titles.

To recap, Scrappy Doo had flames to an already excisting fire.

[thartman1956]

I'm admittedly not a Scrappy-Doo fan (though I'm not a huge fan of the Scooby franchise in general), but I have to go with the opinion that Scooby-Doo was getting long in the tooth before Scrappy arrived, as evident by the constant attention-getting tactics such as more and more guest stars, etc.

My only real issues with Scrappy were:
He changed the entire dynamic of the show during the "fake ghost" era. Scrappy, unlike Shaggy, Scooby and the rest of Mysteries, Inc., was inclined to actually pursue the ghost or menace of the week rather than run away from it. This begged the question: why didn't Fred or the whole gang just clobber the ghost when they first saw it? Surely, by that time they had to have picked up on the pattern that every 'ghost' they'd encountered up to that point was a phony.
His battle cry of "Puppy power!" was grating on the nerves.
By the time of Scrappy's arrival, Fred, Daphne and Velma were all but reduced to cyphers. Their characters became so ludicrously unimportant on the series that their very presence became something of a joke. Sure enough, a season or so later, Velma, Fred and Daphne were all gone and it was just Scoob, Shag and the Scrapster tooling around the country in the Mystery Machine being chased by everbody.So while I didn't necessarily agree with the addition of Scrappy, I agree that the original formula was tired, and a change needed to occur to keep the series fresh.

This wasn't the first time they (HB) tried to add a character to the Scooby-Doo franchise. In 1976, Scooby-Dum was added as a recurring character to the show. Thing of it was, they couldn't decide if he was Scooby's brother or cousin. One week Scooby-Dum would be Scooby's brother, the next week, he'd be his cousin. Scooby-Dum would appear a grand total of four times on Scooby's show during the 1976-77 time frame, not counting Laff-A-Lympics. I found Scooby-Dum a lot more entertaining than Scrappy. (My humble opinion)

[lordsmurf]

I actually don't remember ever liking Scooby Doo at all, aside from some of the guest-star episodes. The Batman/Scooby crossovers were always my favorites from that series. Also pretty fond of Don Knotts appearances. The Scrappy Doo episodes were almost grating to watch, even more than Scooby was naturally. The Pup Named Scoody Doo were annoying because of the not-funny Red Herring jokes. The 70s-90s shows were something I'd only leave on when nothing better was on.

The "What's New" series from a few years ago is my favorite version to date.

[The Cartoon]

I have always liked Scrappy. I don't understand what is so annoying about him. I was really mad when they made Scrappy the villian in the Scooby Doo movie. Do people really hate him that much?

[zoombie]

I have always liked Scrappy. I don't understand what is so annoying about him. I was really mad when they made Scrappy the villian in the Scooby Doo movie. Do people really hate him that much?

It is the old Cousin Oliver resentment. Many times when you add a character to a cast of characters that have been together for a while, and can ruin chemistry, at least that is what people feel.

I agree with that Scrappy Doo did ruin the chemistry a bit, but I started this thread to defend him, and I disagree those that blame Scrappy for everything that went wrong.

[Kolbar]

I actually feel that his most annoying appearances were in those Shaggy/Scooby/Scrappy shorts with the real monsters. His best appearances were probably Boo Brothers and Reluctant Werewolf. He didn't seem to go after the monsters as much in those. And he wasn't that bad in his first series, but they gradually made him worse and worse.

[danreyes1]

I actually liked the Scrappy Doo series more than the regular series. No particular reason why.

[TSRROXZ]

i actually liked Scrappy Doo and like all the Scooby Doo shows cept Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get A Clue

i wasnt a big fan of What's New Scooby Doo, i thought it was ok nothing near the original

[Toon Capone]

Scrappy wasn't that bad but Flim Flam from the 13 Ghosts Of Scooby Doo was really annoying.

[zoombie]

By the time of Scrappy's arrival, Fred, Daphne and Velma were all but reduced to cyphers. Their characters became so ludicrously unimportant on the series that their very presence became something of a joke. Sure enough, a season or so later, Velma, Fred and Daphne were all gone and it was just Scoob, Shag and the Scrapster tooling around the country in the Mystery Machine being chased by everbody.

I remember originally they got rid of all 3 of them, than later Daphne returned. (when they did the Superstar 10 movie in the late 80's it was back to only Scooby, Shaggy, and Scrappy again) I think the reason they brought Daphne back is because reguardless of how unimportant the other Scooby gang members may seem in the late 70's, you at least need one of them to lead and encourage the cowardly Shaggy and Scooby to stick around to solve the mystery.

With Scooby and Shaggy basicly in charage, there is no reason for them to stick around and try to solve the mystery. If it was up to them, the episodes and movies would be very short, some ghost tells them to leave, and they leave, The End. You need someone to say "Okay gang let's stick around and solve this mystery." (which was usually Fred's role)

They still had Scrappy Doo has one of the brave ones, but he doesn't have authority feel over Shaggy and Scooby that Fred, Daphne, and Velma had. You need that in the Scooby Doo world, unless you want to completely change Scooby and Shaggy's characters and make them brave.

[aalong64]

I remember originally they got rid of all 3 of them, than later Daphne returned. (when they did the Superstar 10 movie in the late 80's it was back to only Scooby, Shaggy, and Scrappy again) I think the reason they brought Daphne back is because reguardless of how unimportant the other Scooby gang members may seem in the late 70's, you at least need one of them to lead and encourage the cowardly Shaggy and Scooby to stick around to solve the mystery.
I bet they specifically chose to use Daphne because lots of little boys had crushes on her.

Plus it helped to balance out the cast (a little bit) gender-wise... Velma would've also been okay, but if they'd only brought back Fred, it would've been kinda strange. Fred never seemed to be particularly good friends with Shaggy and Scooby-- he was more interested in Daphne. Without her there, it might've been pretty awkward unless they changed his character.

[zoombie]

I bet they specifically chose to use Daphne because lots of little boys had crushes on her.

Plus it helped to balance out the cast (a little bit) gender-wise... Velma would've also been okay, but if they'd only brought back Fred, it would've been kinda strange. Fred never seemed to be particularly good friends with Shaggy and Scooby-- he was more interested in Daphne. Without her there, it might've been pretty awkward unless they changed his character.

I am sure when they decided to bring back one of those 3, Fred was out of the running pretty quickly. The idea of 2 guys alone in a van (with 2 dogs with them), the consveratvie Reagon people wouldn't like that, if you know what I mean. LOL

On the origianl show, Fred was the leader, while Velma was sort of the second in command, so Daphne rarely got the chance to lead, so this was an opportunity to give a character a new role.

Edit: Didn't the ending of the first Scooby Doo movie and the second feature Brady Bunch movie, had the exact same purposeing of righting a wrong, admitted a mistakes and doing something bad to unpopular characters, with what happened to Scrappy Doo and Cousin Oliver.

The message being "We made a mistake, we know most of you hate this character, so we are going to do something bad to them. Enjoy."

[hobbyfan]

I am sure when they decided to bring back one of those 3, Fred was out of the running pretty quickly. The idea of 2 guys alone in a van (with 2 dogs with them), the consveratvie Reagon people wouldn't like that, if you know what I mean. LOL

On the origianl show, Fred was the leader, while Velma was sort of the second in command, so Daphne rarely got the chance to lead, so this was an opportunity to give a character a new role.

Edit: Didn't the ending of the first Scooby Doo movie and the second feature Brady Bunch movie, had the exact same purposeing of righting a wrong, admitted a mistakes and doing something bad to unpopular characters, with what happened to Scrappy Doo and Cousin Oliver.

The message being "We made a mistake, we know most of you hate this character, so we are going to do something bad to them. Enjoy."

Having never seen either of the Brady Bunch movies, I can't make a correlation with Scooby-Doo. I felt that, yeah, the producers threw a bone to the internet by making Scrappy the villain of the piece.

As for the history of the Scooby series.......

Not only was Scooby-Dum added when the series shifted to ABC in 1976, but they also added Scooby-Dee, an aspiring actress. She made only one appearance, however. Despite the additions, the format remained pat.

Three years later, after Laff-a-Lympics had run its course, Scrappy was added to the mix, the diametric opposite of his cowardly uncle. It was never established who his dad was, though. Had Scrappy been created today, they'd work on that plot detail.

After the first season of Scooby & Scrappy, Fred, Daphne, & Velma left, leaving Shaggy and the dogs to fend for themselves, a format they'd revisit in the movies produced for syndication in 1988. Daphne returned for the "New Scooby-Doo Mysteries" in 1983, with Fred making a guest appearance in the episode, "The Nutcracker Scoob". Fred & Velma were back for good (so we thought) when 13 Ghosts launched in 1985. Unfortunately, that was the end of Mystery, Inc. as we knew them. Pup launched in 1987, a year after 13 Ghosts ended, and ran for 4 years, mostly in reruns.

Little known fact: Kellie Martin, late of "ER" and Hallmark Channel's "Mystery Woman" movies, was the voice of Daphne in the Pup series.

What's New Scooby-Doo, on the heels of the annual DTV movies, marked Scooby's return to Saturday mornings after a 11 year absence in 2002. Unfortunately, WB couldn't help themselves with their constant tweaking of the schedule, and the series was yanked off for good in February 2005. The current "Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue", about to enter its 2nd season, marks a different direction. The producers didn't feel inclined to tie the last series to the movies, because they could've easily fit in Scrappy as a returning villain, but chose not to. Same thing with "Get a Clue". Scrappy could be used as a secret aide to Dr. Phibes for season 2, but do the writers have a clue?

[zoombie]

Fred & Velma were back for good (so we thought) when 13 Ghosts launched in 1985. Unfortunately, that was the end of Mystery, Inc. as we knew them.

First of all, that is a mouthful of knowledge, and I compliment of your knowledge of Scooby history.

But I have to correct you on this, Fred and Velma were not in the 13 Ghosts series, not even as guest stars like they were in the last season of the Scooby and Scrappy Doo show, 13 Ghosts was the swan song of Scooby and the gang in the classic HB era. Anyway the Mystery Inc. cast was:

Scooby

Shaggy

Daphne

Scrappy

An Asain boy named Film Flan

And Vincent Van Ghoul (who was the mentor or adviser of the group, didn't go on the adventures)

You can look it up on Wikipedia, or even watch the opening on on You Tube and proves what I say is correct.

It is funny to think, that Fred, Velma, and I guess to a lesser extint Daphne, they quit because they couldn't stand Scrappy Doo either. LOL

PS: In the second Brady Bundy feature length movie, at the end Cousin Oliver is hit by a car or truck off screen.

[Movie06]

You know, I'd rather prefer Scrappy Doo as a villain since the guy (or pup) is annoying as hell, I never liked him while I'm not a big fan of Scooby Doo but Scrappy was and still is to me, unneccesary, I mean what was the point of bringing him in besides to "spice things up"?

[Brainatra]

Three years later, after Laff-a-Lympics had run its course, Scrappy was added to the mix, the diametric opposite of his cowardly uncle. It was never established who his dad was, though. Had Scrappy been created today, they'd work on that plot detail.


Well, we knew who his *mom* was at least---Scooby's sister, Ruby Doo, who appears twice in the various series: the short that flashed back to Scrappy's birth, and as a puppy in one episode of "A Pup Named Scooby Doo".

-B.

[Don_East]

While it might sicken me to say this, Scrappy actually saved the show from being cancelled. "13 Ghosts Of Scooby Doo" however killed the franchise in the 80s. I mean they threw away the repitive yet easy to retool episode formula for a cheap cash-in of the Ghostbusters movie that came out the year before. One reason why Scooby Doo stayed on for so long(with or without Scrappy) was it's episode writing which was easy to retool as it was formulamatic. With that they could easily come up with plots for years.

[zoombie]

While it might sicken me to say this, Scrappy actually saved the show from being cancelled. "13 Ghosts Of Scooby Doo" however killed the franchise in the 80s. I mean they threw away the repitive yet easy to retool episode formula for a cheap cash-in of the Ghostbusters movie that came out the year before. One reason why Scooby Doo stayed on for so long(with or without Scrappy) was it's episode writing which was easy to retool as it was formulamatic. With that they could easily come up with plots for years.

That is true, like I said before, it should be against the rules for the ghosts and monsters to be real on Scooby Doo. It should always be someone in a mask or someone using special effects, because the moral of the original show was that ghosts and monsters aren't real. When you make them real (which some of the direct to DVD movies, and at one point the early 80's Scooby Doo and Scrappy show, and 13 Ghosts Of Scooby Doo), it kills the original premese and main point of the franchise.

But I tell you this, in What's New Scooby Doo series and latest direct to DVD movies, (when they use the guy in mask formula) the fake monsters and ghosts are a lot more scary and more realstic than in the original series and its 70's and 80's spinoffs. That is the one edge the new Scooby has over the classic Scooby. On the origianl Scooby Doo Where Are You!, looking back now, they look so fake. But I am pretty sure they looked more realstic and scary for 1970's standards.

[Mister Intensity]

I remember originally they got rid of all 3 of them, than later Daphne returned. (when they did the Superstar 10 movie in the late 80's it was back to only Scooby, Shaggy, and Scrappy again) I think the reason they brought Daphne back is because reguardless of how unimportant the other Scooby gang members may seem in the late 70's, you at least need one of them to lead and encourage the cowardly Shaggy and Scooby to stick around to solve the mystery.

With Scooby and Shaggy basicly in charage, there is no reason for them to stick around and try to solve the mystery. If it was up to them, the episodes and movies would be very short, some ghost tells them to leave, and they leave, The End. You need someone to say "Okay gang let's stick around and solve this mystery." (which was usually Fred's role)

They still had Scrappy Doo has one of the brave ones, but he doesn't have authority feel over Shaggy and Scooby that Fred, Daphne, and Velma had. You need that in the Scooby Doo world, unless you want to completely change Scooby and Shaggy's characters and make them brave.

They probably brought back Daphine, although Velma would have been the logical choice because it was easier to use her voice actress than Velma's (considering how consistent she sounded through the three voice actresses that played her during the original run). Also, one thing that many don't pick up is that deep down inside, Shaggy and Scooby enjoyed the mysteries, if they didn't they probably would have left. Also, the Fearless Detectives season and Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue shows that they could handle mystery and adventure on their own without changing their characters too much (although that's attributed to character development in the latter).

Mister Intensity

[hobbyfan]

First of all, that is a mouthful of knowledge, and I compliment of your knowledge of Scooby history.

But I have to correct you on this, Fred and Velma were not in the 13 Ghosts series, not even as guest stars like they were in the last season of the Scooby and Scrappy Doo show, 13 Ghosts was the swan song of Scooby and the gang in the classic HB era. Anyway the Mystery Inc. cast was:

Scooby

Shaggy

Daphne

Scrappy

An Asain boy named Film Flan

And Vincent Van Ghoul (who was the mentor or adviser of the group, didn't go on the adventures).

I stand corrected, and I made a conscious mistake. IIRC, though, Fred did return in another ep of "New Scooby-Doo Mysteries" when he was framed for a crime.

[sdp]

I don't care that much for Scrappy anymore but I don't mind him.

As a kid however I loved Scrappy, I thought it was cool to have a younger dog in the show. I thought the character was very cool. Now that I think about it I didn't enjoy that much the episodes that had only Scooby Shaggy and Scrappy but I did like it when the whole gang was there. I especially loved him in 13 ghosts of Scooby Doo, but I LOVED that series in general.

I don't really understand all the hate he gets, and while I found funny his role in the first Scooby Doo movie, I'd like it if he would return as a character in a future Scooby Doo Series or DTV. Which I think is actually unlikely since fans would ***** about it and people in charge know they hate the character (hence his role in the SD movie).

[zoombie]

As far as HB add on characters, he is not nearly as bad or shark jump character as the second pet they had on the Jetsons.

[Blackstar]

As far as HB add on characters, he is not nearly as bad or shark jump character as the second pet they had on the Jetsons.

You mean Orbity, and I don't think he belongs in the same category as Scrappy Doo. From what I remember, Orbity was barely in most of the episodes of the syndicated Jetsons shows after his introduction. Although I will say that adding new characters to the cast for no reason is generally a sure sign of a shark jump.

[zoombie]

What about the Great Kazu (however you spell his name) from the Flintstones, he is defentely in the Hanna Barbara list of shark jumping characters.

[Blackstar]

What about the Great Kazu (however you spell his name) from the Flintstones, he is defentely in the Hanna Barbara list of shark jumping characters.

Great Gazoo, actually. And yes, Gazoo's arrival onto The Flintstones is considered by many as the shows prime shark jump moment (although I must admit that I did enjoy Harvey Korman's voicing of the character).

[Eric B]

Didn't the ending of the first Scooby Doo movie and the second feature Brady Bunch movie, had the exact same purposeing of righting a wrong, admitted a mistakes and doing something bad to unpopular characters, with what happened to Scrappy Doo and Cousin Oliver.

The message being "We made a mistake, we know most of you hate this character, so we are going to do something bad to them. Enjoy." And now, I find out that that was a lst minute decision. Originally, it was supposed to be the same guy who was the Luna Ghost at the beginning of the movie.
If they go anywhere with this, they need to reveal that the evil Scrappy was a fake. I was wishing they would use the 3rd movie to do that.

Also, a "small feisty dog" was one of the original ideas for Scooby, along with a big shaggy dog.

A lot of people begin the downfall with the special guests, but those still had the essence of the first two seasons. Scooby is a people-oriented show, so the more, the merrier. It did not take away from it at all, as you still had the original music, original Velma voice, and it wasn't the "Shaggy and Scooby always with the ghosts" corruption of the later series. (though the Jerry Reed episode was like the forerunner of that). With the hour long stories, you had more developed plots.

[zoombie]

After the first season with Scrappy, the characters of Fred, Daphne, and Velma disappeared and supposely quit the team.

I always joked that they left because they couldn't stand Scrappy Doo, if you think about it, Scrappy Doo is the Yoko Ono of Mystery Inc., he broke up the team. I am half kidding, but he is one of the reason the producers got rid of those characters, to focus more on Scoopy, Shaggy, and Scrappy. Except for a couple of guest appearances by Fred and Velma in the last season of the new Scooby Doo Mysteries (after Daphne rejoined the team), the original team wouldn't get back together until the Zoombie Island movie, by that time Scrappy Doo was gone.

I noticed with the exception of Shaggy And Scooby Doo Get A Clue which is to new of a series and Laff -A - Lumpics which I don't really count as a regular Scooby Doo series, every Scooby Doo series without Scrappy Doo has been released on DVD. The only thing with the animated "good" Scrappy Doo are those late 80's movie for the Hanna Barbara 10 series.

I think Warner Video is treating every Scooby Doo series from Scooby Doo Where Are You! to 13 Ghosts Of Scooby Doo as a one whole series, and releasing everything in order, so the Scooby Doo And Scrappy Doo show should be next of the classic Scooby Doo series to get a release. But interesting to see if they do release those series on DVD or just stop with the Scooby Doo Show.

[Zebi]

I noticed with the exception of Shaggy And Scooby Doo Get A Clue which is to new of a series and Laff -A - Lumpics which I don't really count as a regular Scooby Doo series, every Scooby Doo series without Scrappy Doo has been released on DVD.

Get a Clue is being released on DVD; the first volume (http://www.amazon.com/Shaggy-Scooby-Doo-Get-Clue/dp/B000TGEK7O/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-7258709-8352913?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1186702514&sr=8-1) comes out October 30th. The disc will have the first four episodes of the series, so it looks like they won't be releasing a season set just yet ... but I imagine that they will eventually, since they did that for What's New Scooby-Doo.

[Mister Intensity]

Actually the eight episodes that aired during the first season of Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics haven't been released yet (they released the episodes from the following season), as well as nine episodes of The New Scooby-Doo Movies (I'm not sure if those episodes would ever be released). I do hope they continue the releases through the Scrappy era.

Mister Intensity

[DBZNarutoWarrior]

I have heard this for a while that Scrabby Doo ruined the original Scooby Doo franchise.

Scrabby Doo was an annying character in my opinon, and ruined the chemistry of the Mystery Solving gang. But in my opinion he didn't ruin the franchised because it was already ruined.

After the original 1969 - 71 Scooby Doo Whera Are You! show, it started to decline, and the downfall was the celebirty guests like the Harlem Globetaughters, Sonny And Cher, etc., and further getting away from the original formula. All this happened before Scrabby Doo arrived. He further ruined the franchised, but it started long before Scrabby Doo appeared. He made a bad thing worst.

Yeah, Scrappy was definitely a bad addition to Scooby Doo. I know that I really hated the celeb apperances on Scooby Doo too. I didn't have much of a problem with What's New Scooby Doo though, I watched it for a few months every off and on, and it was pretty interesting. It wasn't a very great show though, just one that I'd watch if I was eating or if I was bored, something along those lines.

[zoombie]

Also, one thing that many don't pick up is that deep down inside, Shaggy and Scooby enjoyed the mysteries, if they didn't they probably would have left. Also, the Fearless Detectives season and Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue shows that they could handle mystery and adventure on their own without changing their characters too much (although that's attributed to character development in the latter).



I watch some of the old episodes on DVD, and I did notice something, even back than while Scooby and Shaggy are typical cowards and the Scooby snacks were cowerage powerups, when someone was in immedated danger weather it be from Scooby perspective Shaggy or vice versa, one of their friends, or really anyone, they would do anything to save them and wouldn't need the Scooby snacks as a cowerage powerup. When his friends are in danger, Scooby can turn into vicious dog.

I said ever Scrappy less series has been released on DVD, I didn't mean every episode, just every series, some of them are in complete.

No one has answered my question, do you think they will release any series with Scrappy Doo in it? If so, the only series I might pick it is the 13 Ghosts Of Scooby Doo.

[Dub]

I'd pick up Scooby Doo and Scrappy Doo, New Scooby Doo Mysteries, and 13 Ghosts if they were released to DVD, but I'd avoid the Puppy Hour Shaggy/Scooby/Scrappy shorts like they were the black plague. Worst incarnation of Scooby IMO.

[sdp]

I'd pick up Scooby Doo and Scrappy Doo, New Scooby Doo Mysteries, and 13 Ghosts if they were released to DVD, but I'd avoid the Puppy Hour Shaggy/Scooby/Scrappy shorts like they were the black plague. Worst incarnation of Scooby IMO.

I'm a completist so I'd buy them all.

Which it might be off topic but what are the chances of the other Scooby Shows getting DVD releases? I thought after Scooby Where are you we'd see more releases but they've been scarce.. I though Scooby would sell like Hot Cakes.


In anycase I't'd be nice to see The Laugh A Lympics next year along with the Beijing Olympics.

[zoombie]

I think the classic Scooby Doo releases as sold well. That last classic Scooby release wasn't to long ago, so I would give them time.

Examine the other Scooby Doo DVDs and they have apparent been succesfful, the new Scooby Doo has had enough success that they released the entire What's New Scoody Doo series on 13 volumes, and the first two seasons on season sets and I expect the third season to come out soon, and there are plans for Get A Clue to get a DVD release, and the entire Pup Named Scooby Doo series made it to DVD in 7 volumes, and of course they continue to make direct to video movies, the next one which will air on Cartoon Network at the end of the month is due out this fall.

PS: Shaggy and Scooby Doo Get A Clue animation sucks. It is disgrace to the Scooby Doo franchise for its cheep animation. The animators need to get Scooby Do Where Are You! season 1 and 2 DVD, one of the extras is they show you how to draw the Scooby gang.

[caboose]

Scooby Doo already had a lot of guest stars they did not need Scrappy. How come Scrappy had a more human like voice then Scooby?

Thanks for posting this thread

[caboose]

Scooby Doo already had a lot of guest stars they did not need Scrappy. How come Scrappy had a more human like voice then Scooby?

[Eric B]

Because apparently by that time, the thinking behind the characters changed. Scooby was originally more realistic than cartooney, so Scooby talked like a dog would talk if they could. (Basically, barking the words). By the late 70's, it was more cartooney, and Scooby Dum and Dee had also spoke like humans. All of the ripoff shows had animals speaking like humans as well. The cartoons were no longer following the realism of the original Scooby format.

Also, as for guests and relatives, Scooby was people-oriented show, so the more the merrier.

[Antiyonder]

Edit: Didn't the ending of the first Scooby Doo movie and the second feature Brady Bunch movie, had the exact same purposeing of righting a wrong, admitted a mistakes and doing something bad to unpopular characters, with what happened to Scrappy Doo and Cousin Oliver.

The message being "We made a mistake, we know most of you hate this character, so we are going to do something bad to them. Enjoy."

Probably. On that note:

During Oliver's appearance, I believe Mike mentioned it was important for the kids to make Oliver feel welcomed in the family, cause like it or not, he's staying.

I wonder if the writers subconsciously felt that CO was a bad idea. I'm refering to the underlined part of course.

[Daffyfan2003]

I'm admittedly not a Scrappy-Doo fan (though I'm not a huge fan of the Scooby franchise in general), but I have to go with the opinion that Scooby-Doo was getting long in the tooth before Scrappy arrived, as evident by the constant attention-getting tactics such as more and more guest stars, etc.

My only real issues with Scrappy were:[LIST]
He changed the entire dynamic of the show during the "fake ghost" era. Scrappy, unlike Shaggy, Scooby and the rest of Mysteries, Inc., was inclined to actually pursue the ghost or menace of the week rather than run away from it. This begged the question: why didn't Fred or the whole gang just clobber the ghost when they first saw it? Surely, by that time they had to have picked up on the pattern that every 'ghost' they'd encountered up to that point was a phony.


I think if that happened, they wouldn't have much of a show. Besides, I think they need to look for proof that the character they caught was really the culprit. I've actually never been a detective, but that's just my guess.