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Mugen
06-23-2007, 04:55 PM
It seems like we're back to the Ichigo vs. Kenpachi fight...unless they decide to focus on Orihime and Uryu.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-23-2007, 05:00 PM
+tunes in tonight+
I Cannot Wait For This Eppy!

Rocketboy
06-23-2007, 05:04 PM
Ah, the episode where...

Ichigo does nothing except run and say Chad.

Rolling Cloud
06-23-2007, 05:24 PM
Houki-Boshi squad tonight: 13

OP: 14 episodes till Ichirin no Hana

ED: 1 episode till Happy People

J'onn J'onzz
06-23-2007, 06:40 PM
Ah, the episode where...

Ichigo does nothing except run and say Chad.
Oh man, not another episode where nothing happens.

Megaman X
06-23-2007, 06:49 PM
Oh man, not another episode where nothing happens.

Is this why everyone reads the manga?:D

Duke
06-23-2007, 07:50 PM
I think Zangetsu breaks in this episode.

Captain Highwind
06-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Duke!

That shouldn't even be in this thread--I don't care if you're using spoiler tags... :p

Kitschensyngk
06-24-2007, 12:04 AM
And the Soul Society arc continues to continue continuing.

Again I ask, how can you die in the afterlife?

<obligatory overused Monty Python reference> He's not quite dead! </obligatory overused Monty Python reference>

Get Shinji-gami in there to heal him!

They're still playing his victory music when his opponent's about to strike?

How many squad captains does he have to fight to save Rukia?

Oh no! Is he now gonna turn all-Soul Reaper like Inuyasha turned all-demon?

There's that man again!

Captain Highwind
06-24-2007, 12:07 AM
And the Soul Society arc continues to continue continuing.

Continuously!

When Chad's hair covers his eyes completely, he reminds me of a sheep dog.

Rolling Cloud
06-24-2007, 12:08 AM
This episode is boriing!! Crap, a shonen boring me? Dammit!

Megaman X
06-24-2007, 12:12 AM
This episode is boriing!! Crap, a shonen boring me? Dammit!

I dont find it boring:D*gets shot*

Christopher Soul
06-24-2007, 12:12 AM
Its not as boring in Japanese

Don_East
06-24-2007, 12:13 AM
This episode is boriing!! Crap, a shonen boring me? Dammit!
You're making sound like it's unusual.

Captain Highwind
06-24-2007, 12:17 AM
Numbah One Ichigo Pwnin' Music!

Vyse
06-24-2007, 12:19 AM
Again I ask, how can you die in the afterlife?

<obligatory overused Monty Python reference> He's not quite dead! </obligatory overused Monty Python reference>

Seriously, how can you die in the afterlife? Granted I know, but that's thanks to the DS games.

<obligatory overused South Park quote> Where do I go, Detroit? </obligatory overused South Park quote>

NahMan85
06-24-2007, 12:20 AM
Ichigo has a twin brother in the soul society. :D

v1cious
06-24-2007, 12:20 AM
what the hell is with Kaname's voice?

Captain Highwind
06-24-2007, 12:23 AM
Ichigo's Zangetsu broke!

Rolling Cloud
06-24-2007, 12:27 AM
Seriously, how can you die in the afterlife? Granted, but that's thanks to the DS games.

<obligatory overused South Park quote> Where do I go, Detroit? </obligatory overused South Park quote>

Dude, NO spoilers!

Megaman X
06-24-2007, 12:28 AM
Man I want to see next weeks episode :sad:

It looks like things are getting good:D

Mr. Ralph
06-24-2007, 12:28 AM
Its not as boring in Japanese

how could it being in japanese make it any less boring??

Megaman X
06-24-2007, 12:29 AM
how could it being in japanese make it any less boring??

I no seriously thats like saying the japan Naruto is not boring to watch while the english one is.:sweat:

Knighthammer
06-24-2007, 12:32 AM
Its not as boring in Japanese

Wow, that comes off as being a purist biggit buddy.

I've seen both. There's really no difference. The same points that were made, were made.

LUCKILY in this case, what we got DOES move us into a good fight next time unlike other series recently.

Vyse
06-24-2007, 12:36 AM
Dude, NO spoilers!
Re-check, okay? Because, you spoiled it now by quoting my mistake. Seriously, I gotta hit preview post before I commit with spoiler tags.
Sorry for those I accidently spoiled it to. :( :sad: I got into Bleach because Bleach DS was awesome, even though it took place sometime during the 3rd season (aka when they use Ichirin no Hana as an opener)

Mugen
06-24-2007, 12:39 AM
Re-check, okay? Because, you spoiled it now by quoting my mistake. Seriously, I gotta hit preview post before I commit with spoiler tags.
Sorry for those I accidently spoiled it to. :( :sad: I got into Bleach because Bleach DS was awesome, even though it took place sometime during the 3rd season (aka when they use Ichirin no Hana as an opener)

Minor spoilers are okay, but spoilers as big as you posted are not allowed.

Ishtar
06-24-2007, 12:39 AM
Well this episode of Bleach wasn't too bad, but not too great either. It felt pretty dragged out, particularly Ichigo and Kenpachi's fight, which reminded me of one of DBZ's fights. I liked the ending with Ukitate, but sadly this is the last time Houki Boshi will be used as the ending. I can't wait till next week's ep.

Captain Highwind
06-24-2007, 12:43 AM
I wonder if Ukitake's orange-haired assistant girl will sound just as squeaky in english...

Christopher Soul
06-24-2007, 12:50 AM
Wow, that comes off as being a purist biggit buddy.

Hahaha.
Basically.
I just personally don't like the dub. Just the picks for VAs for the characters are bad. Well IMHO anyway. Ahahaha
Well yeah, I'am looking forward to next week's episoode

Katsumara
06-24-2007, 12:57 AM
La la la. Ichigo runs around, gets guts to stand and fight, gets his sword broken, the end.

Guys, did I do it right? lol.. meh episode.

Hyper Shadow X
06-24-2007, 01:00 AM
Pretty good so far.

Master Moltar
06-24-2007, 01:02 AM
The most upsetting fact about this episode is that there's no more Houki Boshi. That ending really grew on me quickly.

At least the awesome opening is sticking around though.

Ishtar
06-24-2007, 01:05 AM
La la la. Ichigo runs around, gets guts to stand and fight, gets his sword broken, the end.

Guys, did I do it right? lol.. meh episode.

That pretty much sums up this episode. I do hope there aren't too many more eps like this one, but I bet there are.

PickHut
06-24-2007, 01:06 AM
Okay episode. There was some pretty obvious stretching going on here, like the beginning. And then there was the one where they showed a flashback of Ichigo attacking Kenpachi... when it happened literally seconds ago. That was silly.

Ahiru-kun
06-24-2007, 01:20 AM
It's amazing that Ichigo could sense a near death Chad with Kenpachi around.

When is it going to finally going to sink in with Ichigo that even if he does somehow beat Kenpachi, there are still eleven more guys like him that he'll have to face? I know he's a shonen hero and everything, but it just seems impossible.

Duke
06-24-2007, 01:41 AM
Wow, that comes off as being a purist biggit buddy.
Ah, but it isn't boring in Japanese, because Japanese speech, especially in Japanese accents, are great fun to listen to, no matter what's being said. The fun factor goes up when Engrish is thrown in.

Captain Highwind
06-24-2007, 01:48 AM
The fun factor goes up when Engrish is thrown in.

It goes up considerably.

Case in point: The last sentence of tonight's opening.

Christopher Soul
06-24-2007, 01:57 AM
Ah, but it isn't boring in Japanese, because Japanese speech, especially in Japanese accents, are great fun to listen to, no matter what's being said. The fun factor goes up when Engrish is thrown in.
Yep.
Look at BECK.

Romanesque
06-24-2007, 02:34 AM
Remember back when everyone said Bleach really picks up once the Soul Society arc begins? Yeah. Anyway, next week should be pretty good.

I no seriously thats like saying the japan Naruto is not boring to watch while the english one is.:sweat:Oddly enough, I was completely bored watching Naruto in Japanese. I gave up after, like, five episodes. I didn't get into it until the dub aired on Toonami. I can't really explain why, but that's how it is.

Hahaha. Basically. I just personally don't like the dub. Just the picks for VAs for the characters are bad.Darnit, I've been slacking. The dub voices aren't getting any better. There, I'm good for a few more weeks now.

Ah, but it isn't boring in Japanese, because Japanese speech, especially in Japanese accents, are great fun to listen to, no matter what's being said. The fun factor goes up when Engrish is thrown in.They say every language has its own rhythm, yes? More accurately, every accent of every dialect of every language has its own rhythm. There are always individual exceptions, too; some English voices are downright musical, while some Japanese voices bore me. In Bleach's case, you can surely guess my stance.

--Romey

silvanoir
06-24-2007, 04:44 AM
And the Soul Society arc continues to continue continuing.

Again I ask, how can you die in the afterlife?


Well, they can do various things to destroy the soul, it sounded like. cut a soul chain, heart, etc etc. but why do they have bodies in a spirit realm and bleed is beyond me.

anywho, it wasn't too bad and epsiode to me, there was some good action to watch even though nothing was accomplished... would you really want Ichigo to always be a superbadass that can take enemies down quick? What would be the fun in that, I'd rather have the feeling of a real threat... even though he's the main character and we know he won't go away, its nice to see him not perfect.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-24-2007, 05:12 AM
Review Time!

Chad Dodges A Bullet On This One, And If That Assistant To That Captian We Saw On Last Week's Edition Would Have Given The Final Blow, That Would Considered Chad No Longer A Recurring BLEACH Charater... Thank God He's Still Alive!

As For Ichi, Well, He Did Manage To Cut Kenpachi In The Chest, However, Kenpachi (Who Yaruichi Said That He's Happy For Some Reason...) Split Ichi's Zangetsu In Half... OWCH!

We'll May Have To Tune In Next Week On BLEACH To See Who That Mystery Guy Is At The End...

As For The Subplot With Azien's Fureral, Sad.

The Episode Overall Was Okay At Best.

"Desperation! The Broken Zangetsu" - 5/5 for action, drama, and a good use of the last Houki-Boshi ED...

Next Week: The World Premiere of Happy People (ED 4), And We'll Find Out About That Mystery Dude!

anime_guru
06-24-2007, 08:24 AM
Ichigo's sword got stabbed like a hot knife through butter...I mean...Zaraki's zanpaktou is so worn and beaten and ichigo's zangetsu is so much like a kitchen knife...
does this mean my old beat up knives are better than new age stainless steel technology...um...I'm not so sure :sweat:
Chad almost dies...
Wow, I don't remember the episode being so I dunno when I first watched it. I dunno maybe it was because I was enthralled in soul society but in retrospect, 2 things happened in this episode...and it made my mouth water for the next episode but wow...stuff happened-just not a lot to my dismay...
oh well
Richard Epcar as Zangetsu...fanboy squeal for the love of richard epcar...yeah that's about it...

XOMiss_Samantha
06-24-2007, 10:26 AM
We'll May Have To Tune In Next Week On BLEACH To See Who That Mystery Guy Is At The End...

If your talking about who I think your talking about, it should be obvious who that is, considering hes been in multiple episodes before and has pretty influencial role towards Ichigo.

I liked this episode, despite it being 'slow' or 'dragged out'. I'm going to miss the ending though:sad:. I looove the Captains, and how they aren't 'easy to beat'. I hate it when the hero comes to a really strong powerful force, yet kills him in the drop of a hat JUST because hes the hero and can do that with out fail. It's good to see them actually struggle and have a chance of NOT winning.

Ishtar
06-24-2007, 11:07 AM
If your talking about who I think your talking about, it should be obvious who that is, considering hes been in multiple episodes before and has pretty influencial role towards Ichigo.

I liked this episode, despite it being 'slow' or 'dragged out'. I'm going to miss the opening though:sad:. I looove the Captains, and how they aren't 'easy to beat'. I hate it when the hero comes to a really strong powerful force, yet kills him in the drop of a hat JUST because hes the hero and can do that with out fail. It's good to see them actually struggle and have a chance of NOT winning.

Don't you mean ending, cause D-Technolife is still gonna be the opening for another 13 eps or so, while Houki Boshi is what is being replaced?

XOMiss_Samantha
06-24-2007, 11:08 AM
Don't you mean ending, cause D-Technolife is still gonna be the opening for another 13 eps or so, while Houki Boshi is what is being replaced?


ack, yes. heh. Sorry. This is what I get for typing that the second I wake up. My brains still asleep.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-24-2007, 11:32 AM
Don't you mean ending, cause D-Technolife is still gonna be the opening for another 13 eps or so, while Houki Boshi is what is being replaced?
I Repeat:
Next Week: The World Premiere of Happy People (ED 4)....

Rolling Cloud
06-24-2007, 11:44 AM
I Repeat:

Why do you have to repeat anything? Your just proving Ishtar's point, just taking credit for it under your name.

ack, yes. heh. Sorry. This is what I get for typing that the second I wake up. My brains still asleep.

:sweat: You're not supposed to post the second you wake up, that's what breakfast is for.

And We'll Find Out About That Mystery Dude!

You don't know who Zangetsu is? I suggest watching the few episodes before SS begins.

As For Ichi, Well, He Did Manage To Cut Kenpachi In The Chest, However, Kenpachi (Who Yaruichi Said That He's Happy For Some Reason...) Split Ichi's Zangetsu In Half... OWCH!

It's Yachiru. Yoruichi is the cat!!

Ishtar
06-24-2007, 11:48 AM
You don't know who Zangetsu is? I suggest watching the few episodes before SS begins.

He probably only saw the Japanese version for those eps, because Zangetsu wasn't supposed to be revealed untill later, while the dub ended up revealing it earlier than it was supposed to.

Rolling Cloud
06-24-2007, 11:49 AM
He probably only saw the Japanese version for those eps, because Zangetsu wasn't supposed to be revealed untill later, while the dub ended up revealing it earlier than it was supposed to.

Oh..:sweat: My bad. Gomen!

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-24-2007, 11:51 AM
After Reviewing My DVR'd BLEACH Shows, And Looked At "Ichigo Dies!" A Couple Times, I Found Out Who Was That Dude I Was Talking About, The Zangetsu (as himself) Has Been Realesed From His Sword, And Next Week, Something Cool Might Happen!!!

Sorry for the mistake everyone...

JTurner954
06-24-2007, 01:37 PM
:sigh: How many more new characters are going to show up in this arc? I'm getting really tired of tracking who all these people are.

And based on this neverending saga (At least the Frieza saga felt like it could end at any time), I'm really starting to question how much longer I can watch. Witch Hunter Robin, Wolf's Rain, Eureka 7, and Samurai Champloo all had "keep watching because at Episode # that's when it really picks up" comments and it didn't happen. Now I'm one episode away from adding "Bleach" to that list (It's a shame too. I was really enjoying this series).

When this series aired in Japan, did it air once a week or on weekdays? I wonder if I should stick with the Bleach AS weekday run where it feels like the pace could pick up.

Rolling Cloud
06-24-2007, 02:05 PM
When this series aired in Japan, did it air once a week or on weekdays? I wonder if I should stick with the Bleach AS weekday run where it feels like the pace could pick up.

It aired once a week during the week. Please, stick with the show at least until episode #41. :anime:

Duke
06-24-2007, 02:35 PM
but why do they have bodies in a spirit realm and bleed is beyond me.
Just because they exist on a different spiritual plane doesn't mean they can't be harmed or killed.

lwitkop
06-24-2007, 02:44 PM
In the ending, were we supposed to understand the significance of the captain not having a lieutenant? Well, he seemed to have a lieutenant for about two seconds, with his back turned to the camera, and I'm wondering if I should have recognized that guy. If it's all supposed to be a hint of things to come, then I don't really want to know the answer, but I have trouble keeping track of characters who were only briefly introduced sometimes.

Duke
06-24-2007, 02:57 PM
In the ending, were we supposed to understand the significance of the captain not having a lieutenant? Well, he seemed to have a lieutenant for about two seconds, with his back turned to the camera, and I'm wondering if I should have recognized that guy. If it's all supposed to be a hint of things to come, then I don't really want to know the answer, but I have trouble keeping track of characters who were only briefly introduced sometimes.
He hasn't been specifically introduced yet, but he has been hinted at in the series. It'll be a while before it's revealed, but when they do, they'll show the full version of that scene.

Oh, and to those thinking that the Soul Society arc has gone on a long time...it's not even finished in the manga yet. Well, the English one, anyways.

FinnMacCool
06-24-2007, 06:16 PM
Am I the only one that found the music playing when Ichigo was facing Kenpachi really weird and out of place?

D Dubbs
06-24-2007, 06:24 PM
Oh, and to those thinking that the Soul Society arc has gone on a long time...it's not even finished in the manga yet. Well, the English one, anyways.

But aren't we catching up with the English manga?

Am I the only one that found the music playing when Ichigo was facing Kenpachi really weird and out of place?

I didn't think so. I love that song. Whenever it starts playing, you know Ichigo is going to kick some ass. And the fact that it's in English just makes it sweeter.

This episode kept me fairly entertained. Don't know why, maybe 'cause there was lots of battling. And Kenny is pretty sweet. Wearing bells in his hair? Purely awesome.

Ishtar
06-24-2007, 06:39 PM
Am I the only one that found the music playing when Ichigo was facing Kenpachi really weird and out of place?

Nah, I love "Number 1". It's an awesome song and fits during any big action scene.

Rocketboy
06-24-2007, 06:59 PM
Oh, and to those thinking that the Soul Society arc has gone on a long time...it's not even finished in the manga yet. Well, the English one, anyways.

Well, I got volume 20, and the preview for the next volume is the start of a new arc.

Duke
06-24-2007, 08:06 PM
But aren't we catching up with the English manga?
I believe we're at Volume 13 right now in the anime.

bigddan11
06-24-2007, 09:59 PM
Ichigo's sword got slashed in half. He also got distracted by Chad's match. At least he gained some determination to save his friends, and next week it looks like Ichigo will once again go to a new level.

Rolling Cloud
06-24-2007, 10:11 PM
He also got distracted by Chad's match.

Which also brings up the question as to how Icchy could sense Chad's spirit energy even though Zaraki's was way stronger and more overpowering.

Neo Ultra Mike
06-24-2007, 10:14 PM
In this episode the power of the captain is explified even moreso. First off Chad is able to show a considerable amount of power but unfourtanley is shown to be utterley defeated by Shunshi to the point of near death and getting captured. Good thing he was facing the kind captain otherwise he'd be pretty dead. And then Ichigo after having another "that a boy" sequence (It didn't annoy me as much when facing Renji but it annoyed me some here) is able to actually cut Kenpachi (who we find out actually wears an eyepatch and bells to give his opponent an advantage. Kind of shows just how freakishly strong the guy is) but then underestimates him when finding out about his Zanpaktou and gets scked for his troubles. This would seem to be a loss with a broken Zanpaktou and being so drained and bleeded and all but with a vision of his Zanpaktou's spirit and being the main character and all Ichigo dosen't get to just loose in such an important battle. Still how is he going to rebound from this one I want to find out. I also want to find out just what role the seventh and ninth captain (who finally get a role besides the ending credits) are now going to play. I mean I see what people mean about there being so many characters at once to keep track of but if it stays this interesting then it's worth it IMHO.

Freedom Fighter
06-25-2007, 02:09 AM
So Ichigo runs, runs, and runs, then finally gets a blow on Kenpachi, exciting the captain greatly... then Kenpachi just cuts through Ichigo's sword just like that. Ouch... Ichigo's 'bout to die, again.

Speaking of dying... Chad's not dead! Yeah...?

"Desperation! The Broken Zangetsu": 3.5/5.

Beefy
06-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Poor Zangetsu, got broken again.

Poor Kenny, all he wants is a good fight, and Ichigo let him down.

Next Week: The World Premiere of Happy People (ED 4)
How can it be the world premiere if it already premiered in Japan?

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-25-2007, 01:15 PM
How can it be the world premiere if it already premiered in Japan?
Same thing in the United States...

Rolling Cloud
06-25-2007, 05:09 PM
Same thing in the United States...

No, in the United States..it'd just be called A US premiere. A world premiere is if it never got shown anywhere in the world.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-25-2007, 05:16 PM
No, in the United States..it'd just be called A US premiere. A world premiere is if it never got shown anywhere in the world.
Oh, im still saying world premiere due to some talk over at the boomerang boards about World Premiere Toons

Malex
06-25-2007, 05:22 PM
That's because World Premiere Toons had their world premieres on the Cartoon Network of old and later be called What A Cartoons! and Cartoon Cartoons. Happy People had its world premiere in Japan sometime in 2005 to correct your mistake. To make it even more relevant, the world premiere of the Viz English dub of Bleach episode 39 will air this Saturday on Adult Swim since it will be the first ever showing of it.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-25-2007, 05:24 PM
That's because World Premiere Toons had their world premieres on CN of old. Happy People had its world premiere in Japan sometime in 2005. To keep it relevant, the world premiere of the Viz English dub of Bleach episode 39 will air this Saturday on Adult Swim since it will be the first ever showing of it.
Yeah, we'll all know that, also whats with the hype up to 41/42 for?

Rolling Cloud
06-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Yeah, we'll all know that, also whats with the hype up to 41/42 for?

If you mean episodes....Don't ask! You'll get major spoilers that can't be answered here.

Plus, you'll want to be surprised! :evil:

Malex
06-25-2007, 05:37 PM
Yeah, we'll all know that, also whats with the hype up to 41/42 for?

Well, you didn't since your excuse to for not changing is too flimsy to be an excuse of an excuse.

Here's a hint about episode 42. Look at the first scene in the second opening for an idea.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-25-2007, 05:46 PM
Well, you didn't since your excuse to for not changing is too flimsy to be an excuse of an excuse.

Here's a hint about episode 42. Look at the first scene in the second opening for an idea.
Oh, Now I Get It...

Rolling Cloud
06-25-2007, 05:49 PM
Oh, Now I Get It...

Yeah, you get it. But, there are so many twists and turns in thos episodes, that can't be told or spoiled.

Patience, TZ poster.

Beat
06-25-2007, 06:11 PM
I get Kenpachi's plan now. Act super badass and cool to intimidate your opponents into losing their focus, making their attacks relatively useless. Brilliant, considering how emotional Ichigo gets.

Next week looks really good.

TheFZAtUGSOnline
06-25-2007, 08:15 PM
No Vid For This Week's Shinigami Guide, But I Only Have Is This Pic For This Week's Guide....

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/Yamata-no-Orochi/Bleach%20Character%20caps/Bleach%20Shinigami%20Character%20Guide/38-yasochikaIemura.jpg

Have A Nice Week, If I Get The Vid, I'll Post It!

Rolling Cloud
06-25-2007, 08:24 PM
LOL, that guy's funny.