Comments on Freddie Prinze Jr. as Terry McGuiness

[Beyond Batman]

In a recent issue of Wizard magazine there was a large section for upcoming comic-to-film movies coming out. Batman Y1, Batman Beyond, Spiderman, Hulk, Fantastic 4, etc. In these articles they included possible outcomes and the buzzing rumors surrounding these upcoming films. But what caught my eye was the mention of Batman Beyond. How Freddie Prinze Jr. could be a possible candidate to play our hero Terry McGuiness. Of course these are yet rumors, nothing has been confirmed, but here is what I think.

I don't like the idea of him playing Terry. Though he is a heart throb icon to the majority of young women, I think he may tarnish Terry's image as Batman and or Terry. I'm sorry if any of you are Freddy Prinze Jr. fans, but I don't think he can act. To me, he just seems to have this "good looks and a smile" mentality with no acting ability. It really seems the only reason why he'd be choosen is because he looks like a Terry McGuiness, not because he can act like one.

[Bird Boy]

Nope. If he's Terry..well...lets just say...NO, he can't be.. :-D

-BB

[Fish]

Since I never saw any of his movies - or those he was was in - I found a picture...


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I donno about his acting but he looks like he could be Terry.
If he is gonna play Terry I hope he doesn't give us that "I look good and here is my pretty smile".
I still think that guy who played Max in Roswell should play Terry...



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[Inque]

He does not make a good terry at all.

[Nightwing]

But he's so dreamy!! No no I'm kidding. I have nothing against the kid, but he's no Batman Beyond, that's for sure.

But wait!! Oh I'm sorry it's a moot point anyway! He's blonde now! He dyed his hair! I'm sorry that's just not the kind of action we would want Terry McGinnis to do. So now you don't even have the right hair color. Oh well, next audition....

;)

[Beyond Batman]

Originally posted by Nightwing
But he's so dreamy!! No no I'm kidding. I have nothing against the kid, but he's no Batman Beyond, that's for sure.

But wait!! Oh I'm sorry it's a moot point anyway! He's blonde now! He dyed his hair! I'm sorry that's just not the kind of action we would want Terry McGinnis to do. So now you don't even have the right hair color. Oh well, next audition....

;)



LoL. That's right. Mr. Prinze Jr. has blond hair now. It must still be blond from playing Fred in the upcomig release of the live action Scooby Doo film. Anyhow, I'm glad to see we're on the same page for not wanting him to play Terry. I'm sure this question has been asked to death, but who would you like to see play Terry in the live action Batman Beyond film?

[Trent Lane]

whoever plays tery should be someone with, for the lack of better words, a "bad boy" side. freddy's just too darn clean cut. if he didn't have the history of chick flicks, he might be able to pull it off, but seeing that fact just ruins any chance for him...

BTW, does anyone know of anyone better for the part?...

[Rahziel]

I seen him act in AMERICAN BEAUTY , he can act. He looks more like Terry than Prinze could ever. He has the looks and the acting ability, what more could we want?

Let Prinze stick to playing "Freddy" in Scooby Doo, hire Wes!

[Calhoun07]

I think I would almost rather see Nicholas Cage star as Superman. And that's saying quite a bit.

[Rahziel]

I don't he's bad at all. He'd bring Terry to life better than Prinze. the guy can act in serious roles, not some teen love comedy!

[SilverKnight]

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Chances are this won't work, but if it does, click on the html to see a pic of him.

I must say, Rahziel, you were right. I cn't think of anyone else who looks more like him.

[Huntress]

He would be perfect!! He was simply captivating in American Beauty ... he's got the looks, attitude, eyebrows!! And - as you say - he can act!! Who do we have to beg then ... ??!!

[Rahziel]

We should start a petition of some sort. But on another note, his eyebrows were one of the main features that caught me, they remind me so much of terry's. In AMERICAN BEAUTY, he barely smiled; always looked serious, just like McGinnis wouldn't u say?

[Rahziel]

That's a cool pic! All we need to do is give him a bit longer hair in that photo and he'd match nearly perfect. if he were to get the role, they should give him the Matrix treatment; have him train his butt off in Martial Arts!

[NewMaxFranklin]

Originally posted by Rahziel
I seen him act in AMERICAN BEAUTY , he can act. He looks more like Terry than Prinze could ever. He has the looks and the acting ability, what more could we want?

Let Prinze stick to playing "Freddy" in Scooby Doo, hire Wes!

Again, I think Wes would make an awsome Year One Bruce. He's to good to play Terry. How about someone who's actually, gasp, a teenager!! I think terry should be played by an unknown. Like Hammil in Star Wars. Terry is a star-making role. Bruce should be a well known actor like Eastwood or Newman. Terry just needs to be likeable and sympathetic.

[Bird Boy]

actually, I think Will Friedle should play him...

-BB

[Peace Keeper]

I second that, Bird_Boy! Freidle is a good looking kid (provided he loses some weight.) Freddie Prinze Jr. is a big dork, and both the guyz from Roswell and American Beauty are too ugly to play Terry. Hair can be died, so that isn't a big issue. Focus more on the body and face.

Actually, I would rather see every character played by an unknown. I think I would make a pretty shway Batman.

[wildbats]

Originally posted by Peace Keeper
I second that, Bird_Boy! Freidle is a good looking kid (provided he loses some weight.) Freddie Prinze Jr. is a big dork, and both the guyz from Roswell and American Beauty are too ugly to play Terry. Hair can be died, so that isn't a big issue. Focus more on the body and face.

Actually, I would rather see every character played by an unknown. I think I would make a pretty shway Batman.


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Actually Will has lost weight. He has a show on starting this Tuesday on NBC called Go Fish and you will notice that he is back to his normal weight. I think he would make a great Terry. He already has the voice down! HA! Contacts and hair dye and he is it!:cool:

[James]

Bird-boy:
actually, I think Will Friedle should play him...

Right on! He has cool eyebrows (I have never seen such pointy eyebrows before!) like Keaton and he is an excellent actor.

Okay, he needs to lose a little weight at the moment , but I'm sure for a chance to play Batman he would lay off the lard ;)

As for Freddie Prince..... no thank you, IMO he's a berk and I've not found him a very strong lead in any movie yet. Granted, he was alright in American Beauty, but he was not having to carry the film.

Will can do it - and should do it too.

[Peace Keeper]

I think Morgan Weisser would make a good Terry McGinnis. He played Nathan West on Space: Above and Beyond.

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[JustWhelmed]

Will Friedle!?!??!?!?! There is no way he looks ANY WAY POSSIBLE like Terry!!! He would and could not play a good Terry. I'd think Freddie would do a better job! Atleast Freddie looks -somewhat- like terry, more than Will. But, Prinze is to old looking to be Terry. I'm going with a totally unknown person or Nathan West.

[James]

JustWhelmed:
Will Friedle!?!??!?!?! There is no way he looks ANY WAY POSSIBLE like Terry!!! He would and could not play a good Terry. I'd think Freddie would do a better job! Atleast Freddie looks -somewhat- like terry, more than Will. But, Prinze is to old looking to be Terry. I'm going with a totally unknown person or Nathan West.

'He would and could not play a good Terry?' - er, he IS Terry. He is the voice and mannerisims of the guy - quite literally.
He is an excellent actor. People sneer at his part in 'Boy Meets World' but he did some fine work - both serious and comic.

Not personally aiming this at yourself, but it does fustrate me when people say someone can't play the part because they don't look like the comic/cartoon character. This is irrelevant. Look at Keaton - certainly the most praised movie Batman - visually nothing like the muscular hero from the comic books.

Friedle is a good bet because he is a good actor, asthetically pleasing (eg; not bug ugly), large pointy eyebrows and he's proved he can play the part (because he made the part!!!)

Freddie Prince Jr is not a strong actor. He is popular with the girls and does passable work, but not the sort which is going to dominate the screen or please the Bat Fandom. The only role he (IMO) worked in was American Beauty - but there he was a side character, he did not lead the movie. Friedle IMO is a fine young actor and has strong screen presence. I have faith that he could pull it off - providing he losses a few pounds first.....!

[JustWhelmed]

I know Will F. plays the voice of batman, but just seeing him a movie, playing batman, doesn't work. He may have the voice and the act to play him. But, he doesn't have the looks. He looks nothing like him, and hes too old to play Terry.

[JustWhelmed]

You have to admit, Will does look a little old for the part.

[James]

Justwhelmed
You have to admit, Will does look a little old for the part.

And Freddie doesn't?
Wasn't Keaton a little old to play Batman - the same point could be leveled at Nicholson for the Joker?

What's crucial for the film is that they get a strong, convincing lead - not whether he looks like the cartoon character or if he looks 17 exactly. How many '17 year olds' in films look 17? Look at Buffy - nearly the whole youth cast are 30 plus!

'Teens' in films rarely look like teens. My only problem against Will is that he is a little weighty - but that sort of thing can be sorted easily.

It is a moot point anyhow - WB never risks letting a Batman film be carried by a relative unknown - they will get someone big for the role. Stupid really, as I think it would work best with an actor who's not going to shadow the role with their own celebrity identity (eg; Arnie.. Nicholson... CARREY... Devito.. etc...)

[JustWhelmed]

If you'd actually read my posts, I already said that freddie was too old for the part. And the cast of Buffy is not 30+, David Boreanez just turned 30 in may or was 29 in May.

[JustWhelmed]

Oh yes.....Today played 'The Winning Edge' episode of Batman beyond at 3 Eastern Time. I would like to say that....there is no change in Will's voice for when he is nervous, scared, or normal. If you listen to the voice of Terry, you can clearly hear the bad voice acting. Will Friedle's best role was on Boy Meets World where there was comedy. Serious stuff is not his role. And I don't think they will ever let Will be Terry because, everyone will remember and associate him with his more famous role as Eric Matthews on Boy Meets World. IT would be too hard to see him as Batman.

[James]

JustWhelmed:
Oh yes.....Today played 'The Winning Edge' episode of Batman beyond at 3 Eastern Time. I would like to say that....there is no change in Will's voice for when he is nervous, scared, or normal. If you listen to the voice of Terry, you can clearly hear the bad voice acting. Will Friedle's best role was on Boy Meets World where there was comedy. Serious stuff is not his role. And I don't think they will ever let Will be Terry because, everyone will remember and associate him with his more famous role as Eric Matthews on Boy Meets World. IT would be too hard to see him as Batman.

If you'd actually read my posts, I already said that freddie was too old for the part. And the cast of Buffy is not 30+, David Boreanez just turned 30 in may or was 29 in May.

Firstly, yes, I do read your posts - and have replied to all your points - so don't get sarcastic, thank you. :)
Freddie's age or Morgan Weisser's hasn't been a contention for anyone so my point was that Friedle's shouldn't be either. The response wasn't aimed at you - rather as a defense for ol' Will.

As for his work on BB - I think it has been bloody good. It took me a while to locate any of Boy Meets Worlds Eric Matthews in the tone. IF he was a duff actor, he'd sound like he did in BMW. As for being typecast from BMW, I don't think his part in that is big enough to be remembered by the general public. I don't think that would really worry WB.
As for BMW, I found Friedle the most fluid and diverse actor there. He did a lot of serious stuff in that show as well as a LOT of comedy (can't disagree with that point) but you can't typecast actors as quickly as that. Just because he's shown he can do comedy doesn't mean he can't do serious - BB is proof that he can do far more than comedy - give the guy a chance (a chance, as I said before, he will never have knowing WB!)

My only other grumble is the guy is 5"8 - not a very tall batman - but that ain't anything new!!

Just as a final word on typecasting. Freidle says that Eric Matthews haunts him. "God no! He's a moron! It's interesting to play him, but some people think I'm a moron, too, and talk to me slowly, like 'Oooh what's it like to be on Boy Meets World?' So I play it up like, 'I... like...it.' Then I have to quote Latin and walk away."

[Peace Keeper]

Friedle is my top choice for Batman Beyond. I can't really get a mental picture of him dressed as Terry, but he we always be the original, so I like him best.

Second Choice---Nathan West from Space: Above and Beyond

Third Choice---unknown.

...voice of Terry...bad voice acting. Will Friedle's best role was on Boy Meets World where there was comedy. Serious stuff is not his role. - Just Whelmed

I don't see Terry McGinnis as a sober character at all. He made jokes all the time. And I thought Friedle did a great job w/ the voice acting. It's his regular acting I am worried aboot.

[Beyond Batman]

SJJ and Justwhelmed,

You guys, both, make good arguments between Friedle's role as Terry in a live action Batman Beyond movie. I think both of you make valid points and see many perspectives as who's best to dawn the Beyond cowl.

But I have to say, I agree with SJJ 100%, you couldnt've said it better. An actor who acts the role, is the roll. Not the one who looks like him.

You guys also comment about his acting ability. Pound for pound, Friedle outweighs Prinze Jr. in acting ability, by far. From what I remember, Friedle has been in other movies playing different roles. Mr. Prinze Jr. seems to always play the same role, the center of heartthrob attention or mr. popularity. (IMO is pretty annoying, and will ruin Batman and Terry's image) I can already imagine what the critics would say about Freddy Prinze Jr. Overall, I'm crossing my fingers Freddy Prinze Jr. doesn't get the roll. Please... anyone but him!!!

[James]

Peackeeper:
I don't see Terry McGinnis as a sober character at all. He made jokes all the time. And I thought Friedle did a great job w/ the voice acting. It's his regular acting I am worried aboot.

I wouldn't be. He's pretty diverse. I mean, 3 years ago, I imagine there were many Bat fans who would have disgusted at the choice of Friedle as Terry since he was best known as a kids sitcom actor (playing the daftest character in TV history).
IMO he proved them wrong - I reckon he can do it again. As I said though, I bet money he won't even be considered so let's prey for a actor who isn't Freddie Prince Jr.

BeyondBatman:
Mr. Prinze Jr. seems to always play the same role, the center of heartthrob attention or mr. popularity. (IMO is pretty annoying, and will ruin Batman and Terry's image) I can already imagine what the critics would say about Freddy Prinze Jr. Overall, I'm crossing my fingers Freddy Prinze Jr. doesn't get the roll. Please... anyone but him!!!

Totally agree. Freddy is a reasonable supporting actor but he has never played a strong lead - plus I loathe him, and yeah, I think he will bring excess baggage to the role (eg: hatred from most people except the 15 year felmale audience) :)

Perhaps this is harsh, but I know Freidle, who has far better credentials - won't get a look in, however this prat - just because he has dark hair and the girls like him - will get serious consideration from the suits at WB...

[killercroc]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I think I would almost rather see Nicholas Cage star as Superman. And that's saying quite a bit.

That is saying quite a bit! Have you heard that he's(Cage) gonna be Johnny Blaze? Oh great, a whiny Ghost Rider!

[wildbats]

Okay, I have read all arguements on this subject. I am a huge Will Friedle fan, so I still say he is the best person to play Batman. Of course he is the voice, number 1. #2, he has basically has the look, just dye the hair a bit darker and he can wear blue contacts. #3 I keep hearing the weight issue brought up, well he has lost a lot of weight and is very slim again. #4 if you have really watched him act, he is an excellent actor when given the right material. He can be serious just as well as he can be funny.

The only other person I could consider for he role no one else has mentioned....Wes Bentley from American Beauty. Now if you are looking for someone who looks just like Terry...look to Wes. He has the dark hair, the piercing blue eyes, and is a good actor.

As for Will, in case some of you did not know, he is doing a new cartoon. It is for the Disney Channel though, but it will be out in January 2001. IT is called Kim Possible. I don't know the premise yet on it.

[Rahziel]

I've been a favorite for Wes Bentley to get the part, but I wouldn't mind seeing Friedle as Terry either, he has to be closest voice actor-to-character I've seen in a while 'cause Kevin Conroy and Bruce have no familiar traits to ever link him to playing a live action Bat. He's simply the voice, that's all...

I'll go for either Will or Wes, maybe a little more for Wes because he looks alot like McGinnis: the eyebrows, eye color, hair. it's a toss-up

[SilverKnight]

Well, actually, I saw this pic where I THINK Conroy was in a cowl, and I thought he looked like a pretty good Batman, but I can't remember where the site is. Too bad, huh?

Rahziel, I too so went for Wes Bentley. I thought I put up a pic...heh, guess not. Well, he does look like a perfect choice for McGuiness, and he's an esteemed actor, so I'm sure he'd do a good job. As far as Freidle...>shrugs< I don't mind. He's the voice, he's a good actor, he'd look the part if he dyed his hair black. As Rahziel said, it's a toss up. As long as Prinze doesn't get it, or some idiot, I'm happy.

[James]

Silverknight:
As long as Prinze doesn't get it, or some idiot, I'm happy.

I agree. Friedle is my favourite for the job, but if they find a bright unknown I'd be very happy. I'm really against actors who bring their celebrity baggage to the role... Prince Jr sticks in the craw of too many people.....

[Fish]

...I still think that Max guy from Roswel should play Terry....


...::duh...how useless was that for info...I think I'll lurk off to TNP ( The Neverending Post )...


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[Rahziel]

I still think Bentley would do best. The look of McGinnis along with the acting chops is the best choice if u ask me....




oh, and speaking of the guy from Roswell, that show was saved from being cancelled , it was picked up by UPN to show right behind Buffy. The WB is losing out, that's what happens when ya cancel a cool show like BB, LOL

[wildbats]

Jason Behr, yes he is another great choice. Actually he is my second favorite actor, next to Will.

I am so glad that UPN picked it up. WB is losing all the good stuff.

Oh wait, funny tidbit here. Will Friedle is actually gonna star on a new WB sitcom this fall called "Off Centre." So I guess technically he is still with them!

[Batgirl4eva88]

I think Josh Hartnett should play Terry. He looks exactly like Ter. Same hair, same face. If you have seen Josh from Pearl Harbor, you will see the resemblance. I hate Freddie Prinze Jr ever since the movie "I Know What You Did Last Summer" Ryan Phillippe was much cuter than Freddie and should have lived. Freddie should have died in that movie. Also, I think Will Friedle is the cutest thing besides Josh and Ben Affleck, but him as Terry. I don't think so. I think he should stick to the voice and only the voice. He's terrific as Terry's voice, but not in a live actio movie. Sorrie!
~Batgirl4eva88~:D

[wildbats]

http://clearillusions.com/wesbentley/pictures/magazines/interview/1.jpg
Okay here is the picture of Wes Bentley! Please, look at him...is he not Terry or what!!!http://clearillusions.com/wesbentley/pictures/other/micellaneous//11.jpg

[wildbats]

Okay, you can try this link....lol
http://clearillusions.com/wesbentley/pictures/magazines/interview/1.jpg

[Batgirl4eva88]

HE IS NOT TERRY! MAYBE YOU THOUGHT SO BECUZ OF THE HAIR, BUT HE DOESN'T RESEMBLE TERRY AT ALL. HE LOOKS TO EVIL AND MEAN! TERRY HAS A DETERMINED EXPRESSION, NOT STERN! TAKE A LOOK AT JOSH HARTNETT. WHEN HE HAS HIS HAIR LONG IN PEARL HARBOR, HE IS SO CUTE AND EXACTLY LIKE TERRY! HERE YOU WANNA SEE THE REAL TERRY (JOSH HARTNETT) THEN GO 2 MY BATMAN BEYOND PROFILE AT GOTHAM CITY USA.
http://www.gothamcityusa.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=display_profile&profile=batgirl4eva88-citizens

[icecold]

Josh Hartnett looks like a human version of goofy who's half asleep most of the time :o. Plus he's a horrible actor.

[Batgirl4eva88]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT! JOSH IS THE BEST ACTOR BESIDES BEN AFFLECK! JOSH IS THE NEW HEARTTHROB OF ALL MAGAZINES! AND COME TO THINK OF IT, HE IS TOO GREAT TO PLAY TERRY! HE'S TOO GOOD LOOKING TO PLAY TERRY OR ANY OTHER BATMAN CHARACTER! KEEP YOUR WES BENTLY! SEE IF HE CAN HANDLE IT! CUZ BY THE LOOKS OF IT, THE REAL JOKER LOOKS MORE LIKE TERRY THAN BENTLY! :mad:

[Rahziel]

You know i've been saying that for the longest. I've been referring to that same pic for the longest. He's a top choice...

[icecold]

Hey, calm down sparky! Everybody entitled to their own opinion. You have your opinion of goofy and I have mine, now let's just leave it at that.

[Batgirl4eva88]

I DON'T CARE! YOU CAN HAVE YOU OPINION BUT IF MY FRIENDS FIND OUT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT OUR LITTLE JOSHY, THEY'D HAVE A FIT! NOT THAT THEY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT STILL! DON'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY HOT BEN AFFLECK! HE'S MY BENNY BOY AND NO ONE CAN SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM! SAME WITH MY JOSHY AND MY CHRIS O DONNELL! :mad:

[Rahziel]

if you keep this up, the moderators will shut this topic down and possibly ban you. let's keep it opinionated here, if he or she think's hartnet is ugly, so what, it's ony what matters to you, right?


Most people here are favorite to Will Friedle and Wes bentley, so an argument is inevitable....

[James]

I think Will Friedle is the cutest thing besides Josh and Ben Affleck, but him as Terry. I don't think so. I think he should stick to the voice and only the voice. He's terrific as Terry's voice, but not in a live actio movie. Sorrie!

How do you know? The one thing an actor hates is being typecast in roles because people (mainly casting directors don't give them a chance to explore others. Will was intially just a teen in a teen comedy - the writers beefed his part up considerably when they realised he has a very strong screen presence (and stole many of the episodes) - since then he has been fortunate to do non comedy such as BBeyond. He has pulled that one off beautifully, and surprised us all.

The guy is a damn fine actor and no one should define his ability by what he has done previously. I just hope the studio has the intelligence to consider him. I reckon the guy would surprise us again as he did with his performance in the cartoon version.

[James]

YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT! JOSH IS THE BEST ACTOR BESIDES BEN AFFLECK! JOSH IS THE NEW HEARTTHROB OF ALL MAGAZINES! AND COME TO THINK OF IT, HE IS TOO GREAT TO PLAY TERRY! HE'S TOO GOOD LOOKING TO PLAY TERRY OR ANY OTHER BATMAN CHARACTER! KEEP YOUR WES BENTLY! SEE IF HE CAN HANDLE IT! CUZ BY THE LOOKS OF IT, THE REAL JOKER LOOKS MORE LIKE TERRY THAN BENTLY!

I quite liked Josh in The Faculty, but I'm not sure I would like him for Terry. As for him being your heartthrob, I don't think is a particularly good reason for casting him as Terry - Wes Bently doesn't look bad but it's not about looks is it? The guy who plays Terry doesn't have to look like him - or have we all become so unimaginative that we need a clone copy of the cartoon character? I hope not! :)

[Batgirl4eva88]

You're right! we don't need an exact clone. And I'm sorrie I went all balistic becuz no one else likes Josh! We all have our opinions and should respect that! And besides, this is just a message board. It's not like we're determining who is playing Terry! And when I said about Will not being Terry, i wasn't referring to his comedy rep, i just can't picture him as Batman (even though he is batman's voice) Anywayz, I still support my Joshy! He is and alwayz will be my HEARTHROB! I LUV HIM WITH ALL MY HEART!:)

[Beyond Batman]

How cute Batgirl4eva88. :confused:

SJJ, I think we're sharing the same brain on this one. Does looks really matter? Close enough is fine for me, so long as the actor who is casted, is a strong and charismatic actor who can pull off Terry McGuiness. Who cares if the actor looks like a cookie cut version of the animated version.

Example: Look at Spawn, the actor looked, walked, and talked like Spawn.... but was that moive a success? (all together now) NO (for you Spawn fans out there, sorry, but I thought that movie was utterly horrible.

Why? Because the acting ability was a lacking factor. I know this point keeps getting brought up, but it's a good one. Micheal Keaton... does he look like a billionaire playboy? No. But did he act and portray Bruce Wayne/Batman well? Yes. See, if you have a movie that's "all show and no go," you'll end up with a horrible movie. But if you cast strong actors, who really get into the role rather than looking like the role, you will have a quality movie.

[James]

BEYONDBATMAN:
Example: Look at Spawn, the actor looked, walked, and talked like Spawn.... but was that moive a success? (all together now) NO (for you Spawn fans out there, sorry, but I thought that movie was utterly horrible.

Totally agree. I like the Spawn point. Have we any other examples of comic films which have/haven't worked on basis of casting?

Let me bring forth exhibit A: Flash Gordon.

Love the film, the character was right.... somehow though, Sam J Jones wasn't quite right. Borderline exceptable but they could have done better. And he LOOKED the part....

[Batgirl4eva88]

what's cute?:confused:

[Bird Boy]

well..after seeing what josh looks like..I must say..

He wouldn't make a good Terry..I dunno..he just wouldn't.
I do however, think Wes would though...

-BB

[Kylewayne]

Originally posted by Bird_Boy

well..after seeing what josh looks like..I must say..
He wouldn't make a good Terry..I dunno..he just wouldn't.
I do however, think Wes would though...

I totally agree with you BB :)
He has the BAD BOY look :D

[wildbats]

Well, I did not care for Josh in even Pearl Harbor, so I could not see him as Terry. I still think it should be Will or Wes. :cool: :p

[wildbats]

Oh and just for kicks, here is a pic of Jason Behr. I could go for him as Terry too. He is a wonderful actor!http://www.transload.net/~sandnole/jasonbehr1.jpg

[Batgirl4eva88]

Hey I am getting impatient with you people, so how do I unregister to this website? I'm sticking with my favorite Batman websites where people don't critizize other's. Sorrie, I just thought this website would be fun! O well, bye every1!
~Danielle~
Josh Luver 4eva

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
Hey I am getting impatient with you people, so how do I unregister to this website? I'm sticking with my favorite Batman websites where people don't critizize other's. Sorrie, I just thought this website would be fun! O well, bye every1!
~Danielle~
Josh Luver 4eva

I'm very sorry you feel this way, and wish you would reconsider. This is a marvelous board full of marvelous people. I don't know if or for how long you lurked before you started posting, but if you watch for awhile you will quickly see that even when we disagree (and sometimes especially when we disagree) we have tremendous respect for each other.

That, you know, is all that one can request. When you offer your opinion, you always run the risk of encountering people who disagree with you. Surely you're not asking us to simply and unthinkingly agree with you? If so, why cannot we make the same demand of you, that you simply and unthinkingly agree with us? The point of conversing here is to learn something, about ourselves and our fellow posters. Maybe we can change another's mind, but "winning" an argument is never the point. Only the enlightenment that comes from thoughtful, honest conversation.

Stick around. Watch awhile. Don't give up just yet.

[James]

Hey I am getting impatient with you people, so how do I unregister to this website? I'm sticking with my favorite Batman websites where people don't critizize other's. Sorrie, I just thought this website would be fun! O well, bye every1!

I don't know what the 'other' bat websites are like where they don't criticise each other but it sounds pretty dull!

If that's your cup of tea then I wish you all the best, but there is a lot to be learned from expressing yourself and listening to others. IF people don't agree with your opinion, that's fine. Nothing stopping you trying to convince them why you feel so strongly!! Sometimes a good topic like this gives you the chance to discover why you feel so strongly about x and why you dislike y.

This sort of forum opens your mind and requires you to analyze your own points as well as others. There aren't many forums that give you that sort of stimulation.

Be proud of your views - just don't expect everyone to leap to way of thinking everytime you express them.

[Bird Boy]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
Hey I am getting impatient with you people, so how do I unregister to this website? I'm sticking with my favorite Batman websites where people don't critizize other's. Sorrie, I just thought this website would be fun! O well, bye every1!
~Danielle~
Josh Luver 4eva

geesh. you get mad easily. I wouldn't want to be around you in real life...but...I know quite a few ppl in real life like that...so I guess everybodys like that...but you got mad aweful easily.. :)

Plus..this is only one thread. All threads aren't like this. But, all threads don't need to have Josh included..heh. Just because I think Ashley Judd's cute, doesn't mean I go ranting about how she is so hot on every thread...

-BB

[wildbats]

My goodness. You need to chill out a little. This is what discussion boards are for. People's opinions on what they like and dislike. Just because things aren't going your way shouldn't mean you have to leave. We are all just expressing our opinions. It's called freedom of speech!;)

[Batgirl4eva88]

i know, thank you for pointing something out for me that I already knew. I realize that we all have our opinions, ok? I don't have a prob with that! All of you can disagree with me and my Josh if you want, I don't care! But what I was getting mad about was everyone not liking Josh! Someone said he was a "human version of goofy who's half alseep most of the time" then they said "he was a horrible actor" That is not true! Josh is a very good actor! One of the best out of all the young actors! So I am officially off this "anti-Josh" topic and going to the
http://bestjoshpage.cjb.net/
c ya l8er
~Danielle Hartnett~

[Kylewayne]

Hey Batgirl4eva88, I think Josh is a "Hunk" I never said I hated him. i just can't picture him as Terry ...that is all. Glad to see you are still sticking around :)

[Batgirl4eva88]

Thanks. I didn't say any names, so I wasn't referring to just you! And I admit, I do get outa hand when people talk bad about Josh Hartnett! I luved the movie Pearl Harbor! Not only does it have cute Josh Hartnett, but my luvr Ben Affleck! I luv Ben! so anyways, I still think Josh is the perfect choice for Terry! Either that or James Marsden! And Keanu Reeves could pull it off, but his voice is too deep for a 17 year old!
~Danielle~
Josh and Ben luver

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
TAnd I admit, I do get outa hand when people talk bad about Josh Hartnett! I luved the movie Pearl Harbor! Not only does it have cute Josh Hartnett, but my luvr Ben Affleck! I luv Ben!

Well, just keep in mind that most of the bashing that goes on here is offered in a spirit of good-natured ribbing. Anyway, if you can't achieve a sense of distance on your own crush on Josh, you can't expect others to achieve the same distance either. Then everything just gets ugly and personal.

BTW, I don't see anything wrong in Josh playing Terry. I don't know who the best choice would be, but from what I've seen I think Hartnett would be more than adequate.

[Batgirl4eva88]

Thank you! That means alot considering you're the "only" one that agrees with me! :)

[James Harvey]

It's unrealistic to expect everyone to agree on something, which is what makes these boards so damn entertaining. Personally, I think Harnett isn't that great of an actor. He seems to sleep walk through every roll, and has the hair to prove it. True, he can memorize lines and spout one-liners, but that doe snot make an actor. With time he may improve, but he's not the best candidate for the job. Bentley or even Tobey MaGuire could fill in the rocket boots better than Harnett. Five years ago James Marsden (an up & coming talent who played Cyclops) would've been ideal, but his time has passed for the role. The worst possible pick for the movie is Prinze. I wonder how he keeps getting cast into movies as they repeatedly bomb.

My pick is for Wes Bently. He has the look and can act with the best of them.

[Batgirl4eva88]

True about Prinze, but wrong about Hartnett! If he's such a "horrible" actor, then why is he all over mags which say he is the next Leonardo DeCaprio. (I never liked Leo, but he was a great actor in Titanic) I also have a magazine which qoutes "This new hottie will be starring in a lot more movies such as "O" and "40 Days and 40 Nights" which will add to his successful career"

[Maxie Zeus]

Marsden, Prinze, Hartnett, van der Beek, diCaprio, all those boy bands . . .

Is there a plastics factory in Korea that mass-produces these people? They're like those model homes or apartments, they don't look "lived in."

[Batgirl4eva88]

There not boy bands. There actors. Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, Sugar Ray...those are boy bands.

[James Harvey]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
True about Prinze, but wrong about Hartnett! If he's such a "horrible" actor, then why is he all over mags which say he is the next Leonardo DeCaprio. (I never liked Leo, but he was a great actor in Titanic) I also have a magazine which qoutes "This new hottie will be starring in a lot more movies such as "O" and "40 Days and 40 Nights" which will add to his successful career"

Don't take this so seriously, it's just my opinion, and it happens to be different from yours. Nothing will make me like Harnett. I just find him untalented. And as for "the next Leonardo DiCaprio", well - that's not exactly the best thing in the world. I was chuckling through all his poor dialogue throughout PEARL HARBOR, one of the worst movies I've ever seen, although better than the crapshow that was BATTLEFEILD: EARTH. I just don't think he can act. And it's just my opinion. That's all.

[Beyond Batman]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
If he's such a "horrible" actor, then why is he all over mags which say he is the next Leonardo DeCaprio. (I never liked Leo, but he was a great actor in Titanic) I also have a magazine which qoutes "This new hottie will be starring in a lot more movies such as "O" and "40 Days and 40 Nights" which will add to his successful career"

The Spice Girls were all over magazine covers and TV adds, I thought they were pretty horrible, where are they now? So were New Kids on the Block, it seems Marky Mark is the only one well off, and he wasn't even a part of the group, he was a subset. If you watched any of the John Hughes films (Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink, Sixteen Candles, etc.) they were heartthrobs of their time, where are they now? I can't imagine girls going gaga over them today.

My point is, these "brat-pack" style actors like Hartnet, Prinze Jr., DiCaprio, etc. are all fads regardless of their acting ability. One minute they're hot, the next minute they're yesterday's news. To me, they seem like pin-up dolls, just there to look at.

When these actors are in they're prime, they rake in the box office dollars, much of which are contributed from young star-struck girls who get all wishy-washy when ever they see they're favorite heart-throb actor. But of course, teenie bopper movies don't sustain in the box office. However, there is you're once-in-a blue-moon "American Pie" or "Road Trip" but it's because those films have comedic substance, and are geared towards a more mature audience.

Movies that maintain a hearthrob image or movies that center around the good-looking guy don't last, why do you think they're available for sale on video six months later? They grow old, and they're looks start to fade. But I guess that's how the movie business is today. Do you think looks win you Acadamy Awards? I don't think so.

Batgirl4eva88, I'm sorry to say this, but Pearl Harbor was a big box office disappointment. They basically took the formula of Titanic, then applied it to Pearl Harbor. I do, however, like how they portrayed Japan's attack, and that whole battle scene, but content wise, that movie lacked in originality. It seemed they took away Pearl Harbor's significance and consentrated on a b-rated love story. And your "Joshy," well, he still seems fresh from the litter as an upcoming actor, maybe he'll prove himself worthy in the future, but right now, I agree with everyone else here, he wouldn't play a good Terry. I must admit, I admire your dedication towards Mr. Hartnet. I'm also glad you agree with me that Prinze Jr. is wrong for the role as Terry.

Can you imagine the mentality of an actor who is chosen simply because he looks like the character? I'm sure they'd be more concerned with how their hair and eyebrows look rather than concentrating on how to act like the character at hand.

[Batgirl4eva88]

Well, that's your POV not mine! I happen to believe that Pearl Harbor is the best movie besides Vertical Limit and Reindeer Games! The only part I don't like is the fight! It's too boring. I like the love story much better. I told my dad that and he said, "Yeah, nut the whole movie is about Pearl Harbor, not the love story." then i told him, "But the luv story contains Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett. I think their more important than some harbor! :D

[Batgirl4eva88]

Sure these guys are just heartthrobs and hotties and cuties and will be on every magazine cover. But hey, you gotta give them credit. Prinze Jr is kinda cute, and he's a terrific actor! Hartnett, well you all can imagine how I feel about him. Bently, I don't even know a darn thing about him. I don't even know who he is. (Must not be very popular becuz I'm a big actor fanatic. I know almost every young actor. But I have no clue who Wes Bently is.) Marsden is very cute in X-Men but now that the movie isn't as pop n e more, I wouldn't recommend him for Terry. But I believe Prinze, Hartnett, and Marsden are very cute! But one day, I admit, they will not be america's heartthrobs anymore, but until then...Hartnett will alwayz be mine!!! :p

[Beyond Batman]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
I think their more important than some harbor! :D

Look at this ignorant narrow-minded post, is this what the youth of American girls think about the U.S.? "...some Harbor?" Pearl Harbor was a very tragic attack, and I don't think you should be dismissing its importance. Think of the families that lost loved one's.

Being opinionated about Batman is one thing, bashing American history because of a couple of no-talent actors is another.

Well, to get back on topic, Prinze Jr. is a poor choice as Terry and Hartnet is growing to be a more and more poor choice, no thanks to our little Josh obsessed friend. :eek:

[icecold]

Well, that's your POV not mine! I happen to believe that Pearl Harbor is the best movie besides Vertical Limit and Reindeer Games! The only part I don't like is the fight! It's too boring. I like the love story much better. I told my dad that and he said, "Yeah, nut the whole movie is about Pearl Harbor, not the love story." then i told him, "But the luv story contains Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett. I think their more important than some harbor!It's airheads like this that make me ashamed to be a part of America's youth.

[Maxie Zeus]

. . . so maybe I better step back in.

Marsden, Prinze, Hartnett, van der Beek, diCaprio, all those boy bands . . .

Is there a plastics factory in Korea that mass-produces these people? They're like those model homes or apartments, they don't look "lived in."

Sometimes it's better to keep a wisecrack to yourself, especially when there's explosive emotions lying around. To be honest, I don't see the appeal of the glamour hunks, so I won't withdraw the remark. But it was poor judgement on my part to have said so in the present context, and I apologize for it. I'm certainly not thrilled to see that the bashing took on a life of its own.

Look, there's cute, and there's talented, and they're not the same. Sometimes the two go together (I guess Johnny Depp might qualify, and I guess diCaprio has done very good stuff too). Quite often they don't. For everyone's emotional sake, we ought to keep them separate.

If someone is drop dead gorgeous, by all means worship the ground they walk on. Let your love for them redeem every movie they are in. But please don't expect others who don't have the same hormonal investment, to have the same reaction. Not all of us are turned on by good-looking guys (for which you should be grateful, since it would double your competition on Saturday nights!) and not all of us are going to let the good looks of Affleck, Hartnett, etc., blind us to the weaknesses in their performances or the movies they are in.

By the same token, those of us who are numb to their charms should avoid giving needless offense to those who are upside down with admiration for them. Again, I thoughtlessly did so, and apologize.

Hartnett might yet bloom into an actor of depth and quality (and not just as a magazine cover), and a Batman Beyond movie might play a part in that. I don't know. But I'm pretty sure Hartnett himself would NOT be offended if others have their doubts.

[wildbats]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88
Well, that's your POV not mine! I happen to believe that Pearl Harbor is the best movie besides Vertical Limit and Reindeer Games! The only part I don't like is the fight! It's too boring. I like the love story much better. I told my dad that and he said, "Yeah, nut the whole movie is about Pearl Harbor, not the love story." then i told him, "But the luv story contains Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett. I think their more important than some harbor! :D

More important than so harbor??!!!! Do you know how many people died there? Do you know anything about history? Have you ever even heard of WWII? This statement just proves how childish and ignorant you really are. The movie did not nearly do the event justice by them throwing in that boring love triangle.

And as for Wes Bentley, just because he is not on the covers of Teen, J-14, Tiger Beat, whatever, doesn't mean he is not a great actor. He is above the teen scene mostly because he is in mostly independant films. Just watch American Beauty and you will see a fine actor.

[Batgirl4eva88]

I'm not childish nor ignorant. I realize that the japs bombed us and I realize how many peeps died there, ok? Jeez, the way you people act you'd think you'd start the next war! I know alot about history, but when it comes to Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett, well there no contest. But I do know that Pearl Harbor was one of the most memorable events in our country. And don't tell me about me being ignorant about Pearl Harbor becuz my great uncle fought at Pearl Harbor. So you better think twice before you judge me again becuz you don't even know me. Sure you know that I'm obsessed with Josh and Ben, but that's my problem. Not yours or anyone elses on this website. But you have no idea what kind of person I am. So how can you call me ignorant and childish if you don't even know anything about me. You haven't even gotten your facts straight. I know what Pearl Harbor is, I know everything that went on about it. I've seen the movie four slaggin' times. that is 12 slaggin' hours. So pleaze, do not judge me unless you have your facts straight! :mad:

[Beyond Batman]

Originally posted by Batgirl4eva88

1) I realize that the japs bombed us and I realize how many peeps died there, ok?

2) I think their more important than some harbor!

Batgirl4eva88, you'd better stop. You continuously keep digging your own grave here. Not only are you narrow-minded and ignorant, you appear to throw around racial slurs too. They are called Japanese. NOT "Japs." That is a racial slur. Many people here are from different ethnicities, so you'd better watch your mouth. I know peeps is a term used for people but c'mon. They were not "peeps" that died at Pearl Harbor. They were soldiers and civilians.... people of honor who died for their country! Show some respect!

You continue to make childish, immature, and very distasteful comments and each post you make seems to discredit your integrity as a poster.

I'm assuming you're young and immature. I'm sure there are many posters here who are young, but at least they have the dignity to post with respect and credibility. You could learn a thing or two from them.

As for you Batgirl4eva88, what kind of mature person would make such disrespectful comments about the tragic incident at Pearl Harbor and would throw around so losely Japanese racial slurs, just to defend your overated crush on some no-talent actor like Josh Hartnet.

Yeah, you're right, we don't know you. But you don't know us either. So please, show some respect for people you don't know, because we would do the same for you.

[James Harvey]

Well...ah...let's try an dget this thread back on topic. It sorta swayed a bit, but hopefully things will be a bit better here. I'd hate to see a baord war start becuase of this. Anyways, Why not list our top candidates for the part. I really think that Wes Bently can pull this off. He has the look and the talent. Also, the lead guy from Roswell might be able to do it, or maybe even Devon Sawa with some hair dye.

[James]

Yeah, I agree with Dick that is getting way off topic and I think the differences are pretty unresolvable... I think we all understand each others opinions here....

The good thing about McGinnis is that there is no pressure on getting a tall actor for the role (although hopefully nothing as tiny as Tobey Mcquire if you've checked the recent Spidey pics!!).

In fact, a small(ish) Terry would perhaps keep him a bit more identity from Bruce's Batman (who although portrayed as tiny by Keaton, generally is considered to be tall and well built). Someone with a more teenager shaped body (eg; someone cast who is not 28 playing a 17 year old as Hollywood likes to do) might be quite fitting.

The hair - as Dick pointed out - need not be black (I don't really see it as neccessity to have a dark haired Terry) and could be blond. In fact again this may help distinguish him from Bruce....

The problem Batman Beyond will have is seperating itself from the Bat mythos and forging it's own identity. The above physical attributes might be worth considering when naming another actor to play the role . . . . .

Any ideas?

[James Harvey]

I agree there. We really need a teenager in the role, or at least someone close to that age. An unknwon in their early twenties would be ideal for the role, but this may cause problems with the next BATMAN movie, which is supposed to be Year One. Then again, I doubt it will given the fact that the two movies will be completely different.

[James]

Dick:
I agree there. We really need a teenager in the role, or at least someone close to that age. An unknwon in their early twenties would be ideal for the role, but this may cause problems with the next BATMAN movie, which is supposed to be Year One. Then again, I doubt it will given the fact that the two movies will be completely different.

I'm kind of hoping that the actor they cast for YEAR ONE will be mid to late 20's. I think this would be a better age for a young Bruce. The Batman is a mature character and for the early days of the Bat I'd think late 20's would be believable....

That would give some distance between YEAR ONE and the Batman Beyond project.