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robert
02-02-2002, 07:06 PM
Today I went to the video store and saw a poster for "Cinderella 2" from our old pals D*sney, coming direct to video Febuary 26'th. This is 11 days after their sequel to Peter Pan comes to theaters. I suppose it was inevitable that D*sney would finally have two sequels to old movies in one month, and the DTV sequels to Dumbo and the Hunchback of Notre Dame will be coming by the end of the year. And who here can guarantee that direct to video sequels to "The Emperor's New Groove" "Atlantis" "Snow White" or any other animanted films without a sequel aren't being planned right now or will be planned soon? Does anyone know what films they haven't made sequels to yet other than those I mentioned, perhaps we can make a checkoff list until there's none left, and I bet there will be soon.

Danielle
02-02-2002, 07:17 PM
I don't recall a "Great Mouse Detective 2". I was going to say that I haven't heard of a "Mulan 2", but, unfortunately.... (http://vds0.webmastertechniques.com/jtracy4/disneyanimation/ComingUp/Mulan2/)

*sigh* Most of these D*sney movies come from stories, fairy tales, fables, or legends. Other than "Pocahontas 2", how many of these came from myths or tales (or perhaps real occurances)?

Lonestarr
02-02-2002, 08:19 PM
If they make a sequel to "The Emperor's New Groove" (arguably one of Disney's best films), I will have no choice but to move Heaven and Earth and send the parties responsible straight to Hell.

LightAngel
02-02-2002, 08:21 PM
Ha, I was wondering this question myself! I thought things weren't going to get any worse than Peter Pan II, but then I heard Cinderella and Snow White II were on their way. It's just too sad to comprehend. It's been said before, that since Emperor's New Groove and Atlantis weren't big hits, that Disney won't bother making sequels to them. Maybe in the end, being a bomb is a good thing.

Brainatra
02-02-2002, 11:25 PM
>>*sigh* Most of these D*sney movies come from stories, fairy tales, fables, or legends. Other than "Pocahontas 2", how many of these came from myths or tales (or perhaps real occurances)?

Hmm...well, "The Emperor's New Groove" is actually AFAIK an original story... along with (maybe) "The Fox and the Hound"? Also "Oliver and Company"...

Re: films sequels won't be made for: I can guarantee "Song of the South" won't be made into a sequel (or apparently even see a DVD/never video release, vs. the one release I saw for it at a video store that was apparently done back in the early 80's, in home video's infancy...and thus, is probably almost impossible to find in any decent condition/find period. Not that I have much interest in doing so, despite seeing the film as a kid....).

-B.

Craig Marinaro
02-02-2002, 11:31 PM
'Oliver & Co.' was a variation on Dickens' 'Oliver Twist,' and 'The Fox and the Hound' was based on some children's book, iirc.

I think 'The Lion King' and 'The Emperor's New Groove' are the only totally original D*sney animated "classics."

Joe Tully
02-03-2002, 12:02 AM
Black Cauldron will probably be safe...I think that Pinocchio is free from the curse so far, ditto for Alice In Wonderland and Sleeping Beauty (correct me if I'm wrong). And it would be hard to do sequels of films like "Melody Time" and "Fun and Fancy Free"

Have they/are they doing one for Jungle Book or Bambi?

I believe Atlantis was original (unless you believe the rumors of the ripoff of the anime Nadia), but I don't think that it did well enough to be considered a "classic" :rolleyes:

Dub
02-03-2002, 12:52 PM
I had actually heard somewhere that there was thoughts thrown around about a Sleeping Beauty 2, but wasnt sure of it.

I hope not, but knowing "Disney, The Liscense Cash Cow" there probably will be....





**shakes head in disdain at Mulan 2 and lobs a walrus at various Disney executive heads**

The Mad Hatter
02-03-2002, 01:26 PM
There's not an official sequel to Jungle Book, though D*sney has strip-mined that one pretty well too, what with Tale Spin and Jungle Babies (think a miniaturized Jungle Book sans Mowgli).

Elven Moon
02-04-2002, 08:34 AM
The Ducktales Movie is one I can remember at the top of my head.

Naraht
02-04-2002, 08:51 AM
Funny, Alice is one of the few that won't get a sequel....and it's the only one that actually HAS one!!

Same they used the good parts in the 1st movie...

Dub
02-04-2002, 09:51 AM
Now the DUCK TALES movie - I wouldnt mind a sequel to AT ALL. The more duck Tales, the better IMO :)

Besides - the movie DID leave an open ending...we never found out what became of the Genie...

Scrooge McDucks running ab orphanage now what with Huey, Dewey, Louie, Webby, Gene, Bubba, and an always visiting Doofus :D

Joe Tully
02-04-2002, 01:35 PM
And I did like Rescuers Down Under, which is probably because The Rescuers is one of the few Disney movies that can easily be sequel-ized. I wouldn't mind another Rescuers sequel if it was done well. Just have the two mice go on another one of their adventures, and make it an original one. Great Mouse Detective could probably work that way too. But knowing Disney, they'd run sequels of those into the ground, and it wouldn't be long before they just followed a predictable formula.

The Mad Hatter
02-04-2002, 06:13 PM
Speaking of ducks, I was holding out hope for a Darkwing Duck movie, but no such luck. The Masked Mallard must be magnified onto a massive marquee!

Joe Wagner
02-04-2002, 07:28 PM
Actually Disney has a sequel for Atlantis coming out sometime this year - it's going to be the first three eps. to the canned TV show that looked to be awesome.

-Joe!

Danielle
02-04-2002, 08:33 PM
]I don't care if they make a sequel to Atlantis, as long as they stay off the older (and in many cases better) films.


Originally posted by The Mad Hatter

The Masked Mallard must be magnified onto a massive marquee!


Betcha can't say that five times fast! :p (Actually, you probably could........What the hey, just do it anyway! [Poem alert! I'm not dumb after all! ;) ])

RockItShipper
02-04-2002, 09:25 PM
Like Snow White? 'Fraid so....

How long until they start cross-overs with Saban's properties? :D

Nftnat
02-04-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
Betcha can't say that five times fast! :p (Actually, you probably could........What the hey, just do it anyway! [Poem alert! I'm not dumb after all! ;) ])

I just did. Why? Because it's there.

Nftnat
02-04-2002, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Joe Tully
Black Cauldron will probably be safe...I think that Pinocchio is free from the curse so far, ditto for Alice In Wonderland and Sleeping Beauty (correct me if I'm wrong). And it would be hard to do sequels of films like "Melody Time" and "Fun and Fancy Free"

No, there have been sequels to Pinocchio. I remember Pinocchio & the Emperor of the Night, with the tag line, "and that's, no lie!" I also remember seeing the start of a sequel to Pinnochio on tv once; he was real & singing as he was walking along some path, all happy-like. I don't remember which were of the Mouse & which weren't thought.

HoloRimmer
02-04-2002, 11:09 PM
Why can't disney just do something creative rather than just try to capatalize on their old successes. It isn't that hard.

Brainatra
02-04-2002, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Nftnat


No, there have been sequels to Pinocchio. I remember Pinocchio & the Emperor of the Night, with the tag line, "and that's, no lie!" I also remember seeing the start of a sequel to Pinnochio on tv once; he was real & singing as he was walking along some path, all happy-like. I don't remember which were of the Mouse & which weren't thought.

Well, not made by Disney, but do recall seeing as a kid some Pinocchio movie where (after being turned back into a wooden boy for some reason-or-other), he travels into space with some turtle-like alien of some sort to go after "Astro", the flying "space whale" (who could fly through space since he shared the same genes or somesuch as flying fish and flying squirrels....not making this up). Very bizarre...looked like it was made to capitalize on the project Mercury/project Gemini/project Apollo "space craze" of the sixties...


-B.

Joe Tully
02-05-2002, 02:58 AM
Yeah, I vaguely remember Pinocchio: Emperor of the Night coming out in the 80s, but it's not Disney, it's Filmation. I should probably rent it to see what it's like. It disappeared pretty quickly, I think, but I have some freebie plastic cups from Jack In The Box from when it came out. There was also that "Geppetto" TV movie starring Drew Carey that came out a while back that was probably Disney, but it was live action.

DR. BELCH
02-05-2002, 10:06 AM
--that thing with Jonathan Taylor-Thomas as the little wooden-head...I think it sank like a little wooden top at the b.o., but I'm no sure.

I recall seeing one version--animated, non-Disney (I believe)--in which Pinnochio regresses to a puppet over some bad behavior, and in the end he redeems himself, becomes a real boy again and gets a "sister" to boot....was that the Phlegmation version?

The sound you hear is Mr. Carlotti rolling over in his grave....

Jeff Harris
02-05-2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by robert
Today I went to the video store and saw a poster for "Cinderella 2" from our old pals D*sney, coming direct to video Febuary 26'th. This is 11 days after their sequel to Peter Pan comes to theaters. I suppose it was inevitable that D*sney would finally have two sequels to old movies in one month, and the DTV sequels to Dumbo and the Hunchback of Notre Dame will be coming by the end of the year. And who here can guarantee that direct to video sequels to "The Emperor's New Groove" "Atlantis" "Snow White" or any other animanted films without a sequel aren't being planned right now or will be planned soon? Does anyone know what films they haven't made sequels to yet other than those I mentioned, perhaps we can make a checkoff list until there's none left, and I bet there will be soon.

Let's see. Black Cauldron didn't have a sequel, though I believe it was a part of a series of books.

Little Mermaid didn't hav - - oh, right, it did, plus a prequel series.

The Lion K - - dang, they did too, plus the Timon and Pummba series that came later.

Aladi - - no, that had two sequels and a series.

Pinocchio . . . yeah, no Disney sequel, but what more could you tell about it? I mean, he did turn into a real boy at the end. Maybe he grew up and became a father to mutant half-human half-wooden children.

Mulan didn't have a sequel, nor did Great Mouse Detective nor Oliver and Company.

Nor Bambi.

Nor has there been a Sleeping Beauty II: Asleep Again.

Quite frankly, the main thing I want to see them actually revisit is Tron, only have it a fully computer-animated sequel.

Joe Tully
02-05-2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by nemalki

Quite frankly, the main thing I want to see them actually revisit is Tron, only have it a fully computer-animated sequel.

Well, you get half of it, anyways.

http://www.tron-movie.com/2.0/

Lachesis
02-05-2002, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Brainatra


Well, not made by Disney, but do recall seeing as a kid some Pinocchio movie where (after being turned back into a wooden boy for some reason-or-other), he travels into space with some turtle-like alien of some sort to go after "Astro", the flying "space whale" (who could fly through space since he shared the same genes or somesuch as flying fish and flying squirrels....not making this up). Very bizarre...looked like it was made to capitalize on the project Mercury/project Gemini/project Apollo "space craze" of the sixties...


-B.

If I remember correctly, this would be "Pinnocchio In Outer Space." No idea who made it.

RockItShipper
02-05-2002, 10:18 PM
Filmation made a Pinnocchio sequel as well, "Pinnocchio and the Emperor of the Night". A badger and monkey cause trouble, Pinnoke turns back into a puppet, a wooden insect guides Pinnoke, the fairy can't sing with her voice breaking, and it all ends with the players (Pinnocchio, Gepetto, the insect, the badger, the monkey, and a blonde preteen girl just freed from being a puppet) moving in together or something.

Brainatra
02-05-2002, 10:46 PM
As long as we're discussing Pinnoke appearances, the "House of Mouse" had an episode centering around puppet-boy and Jiminy Cricket. Plot: Pinnoke gets cajoled by those two demons from "Hercules" (the ones that sound like Bobcat Goldthwait...never saw the movie, so don't recall their names exactly), causing Jiminy to bail on him and pick Mickey to serve as his "conscience". Various attempts at making Mickey dress/act/look like Pinnochio later, the puppet and Jiminy get back together (after the other House of Mouse patrons all clamor to have Jiminy serve as *their* consciences [incl. Aladdin, who figures he's "a lot better than that monkey"]). Pinnoke is of course shown as being made of wood here (vs. being a "real boy")....

Sharklady
02-06-2002, 10:51 AM
> Pinnoke gets cajoled by those two demons from "Hercules" (the ones that sound like Bobcat Goldthwait...never saw the movie, so don't recall their names exactly) <

Their names were Pain and Panic.

I did watch 'Hercules', and while I'd never describe it as one of Disney's best, it did have it's moments. Danny Devito as the satyr was a sly piece of voice casting. And there's that hilarious bit where the rampaging Titans are stopped in their tracks by Hades' line: "Guys? Mount Olympus is that-a-way."

mbaker
01-04-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Craig Marinaro
I think 'The Lion King' and 'The Emperor's New Groove' are the only totally original D*sney animated "classics."
Well, there is the issue of The Lion King's inspiration from "Kimba The White Lion", but in it's defence, it's basically "Hamlet" in the jungle.

James Earl Jones: You must avange my death Kimba... I mean Simba. Luke, I am your father. This is CNN.

Pilmedium
01-04-2003, 07:52 PM
Any Disney movie that is not politically incorrect will eventually get a sequel. It is only a matter of time. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Craig Marinaro
I think 'The Lion King' and 'The Emperor's New Groove' are the only totally original D*sney animated "classics."

They were releasing movies, and now sequels. If not even most of the original movies were "original," people in the feature film department were lacking creativity. :D

Daniel P
01-04-2003, 07:53 PM
There's no sequel to "Song of the South" yet :p

Greek_Honeybee
01-04-2003, 08:10 PM
There's no sequel to Robin Hood yet. Was there a Fox and the Hound sequel? I vaguely remember there being one recently. Or am I imagining it?

mbaker
01-04-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Greek_Honeybee
There's no sequel to Robin Hood yet. Was there a Fox and the Hound sequel? I vaguely remember there being one recently. Or am I imagining it?
No "Fox & The Hound" sequle. Thank god.

Tobias
01-04-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
There's not an official sequel to Jungle Book, though D*sney has strip-mined that one pretty well too, what with Tale Spin and Jungle Babies (think a miniaturized Jungle Book sans Mowgli).

Jungle book 2 hits theaters in February, starring John Goodman as Baloo and Haley Joel Osment as Mowgli.

Caffeine King
01-04-2003, 08:31 PM
Anyone else agree with me when I say that a sequel to Lilo And Stich would suck?

I only pray that they don't make a sequel to Monsters INC. IMO that is there best movie..well there best movie that they made in 2002.

A sequel to Mulan would suck too.

Discloner
01-04-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Pustli0
Anyone else agree with me when I say that a sequel to Lilo And Stich would suck?

I only pray that they don't make a sequel to Monsters INC. IMO that is there best movie..well there best movie that they made in 2002.

A sequel to Mulan would suck too.

*SIGH*

The Direct to video/dvd movie: "Stitch" comes to the public soon to introduce a new tv series.

Mulan 2 is coming soon as well.
As well as the Jungle Book 2, Atlantis II: Milo's Return or something like that. OH and Lets not forget that live action movie, "Inspector Gadget 2" with French Steward.

I'm sure there's more I forgot.....Sadly.


It costs less to make these movies...which is why their doing it. When making sequels they don't have to think up characters or think too much into a plot. And if they release enough home videos they can make just about as much money as if they released a nice movie. Disney was used to being the Animation powerhouse...but other companies started stepping in.

I'm not suprised at all that Disney is hanging on to Pixar as if their life depended on it...it does! Pixar goes to another company, disney is practily crushed...since pixar's movies are one of Disney's highest grossing animated movies now.

Allen's Nickname.
01-04-2003, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Pustli0
Anyone else agree with me when I say that a sequel to Lilo And Stich would suck? Meeeeehhhh....

The creators of the movie are involved. Let's hope that they contain the suck-factor.

Discloner
01-04-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Spaz13_88
Meeeeehhhh....

The creators of the movie are involved. Let's hope that they contain the suck-factor.

True.....I get a sense of "They know what people want" from the creators. It's not just some crap disney decided they would pay $10 to make.

pabcool
01-04-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Craig Marinaro
I think 'The Lion King' and 'The Emperor's New Groove' are the only totally original D*sney animated "classics."

Emperor's New Groove Was VERY Loosly Based On "The Emperor's New Clothes". It Can, In Fact, Be Considered Original, But The 2 DO Share A Few Things In Common.

LightAngel
01-04-2003, 10:12 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been an actual sequel to Beauty and the Beast yet. Sure, there have been prequels, but that's it so far. Let's hope it remains that way.

QuiverwingQuack
01-08-2003, 06:54 PM
Is there still a chance for a Darkwing Movie

Jack
01-08-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by LightAngel
I'm surprised there hasn't been an actual sequel to Beauty and the Beast yet. Sure, there have been prequels, but that's it so far. Let's hope it remains that way. I imagine that, if one were made, it would center around Beast and Belle having a son who is arrogant, just like the Beast was when he was young. The kid will then get on the bad side of some fairy and get turned into a beast too, and Belle, Beast, and thier ex-houseware friends will have to find him a wife. Naturally, there will be a bunch of bad songs and television quality animation, and the girl they find will be sassy and independant.


Jack :p

Antiyonder
01-08-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Joe Wagner
Actually Disney has a sequel for Atlantis coming out sometime this year - it's going to be the first three eps. to the canned TV show that looked to be awesome.

-Joe!

The show would be named Team Atlantis.
One of the unmade planned episodes would overlap The
Atlantis Universe and The Gargoyles Universe.
It would take place in Paris and involve a female hunter named Fiona Canmore and Demona.

I heard this from Greg Weissman on his Ask Greg page.



Thought some of you would want to know this.

wrenchien
01-09-2003, 11:16 PM
.. still gonna make a sequel to atlantis when it made so little money!?!

makes you wonder how many more years before disney sell disneyworld and AOL/TW turns it into 'six flags over florida'. :D

i mean it, bugs bunny going down mainstreet and taz eating the cinderella castle to make way for a future tiny toons university ride/attraction would be the biggest triumph of animation sense vs animation BLEAAARGH. :D

Nadine
01-10-2003, 02:18 AM
Wrenchien, I think they started production on the Atlantis series before they realized Atlantis was doing so poorly... they got rid of the TV series, but are using the produced episodes for a 'movie'.

Monsters Inc. II might not be too bad... at least Pixar seems to put some effort into their sequels.

Though I loathe Disney's DTV sequels, I think the movies that are looser or more humor-based have more potential for sequels than the 'coming of age' fairy tales. It seems like the endings in the latter group are a bit more final and the major characters have all 'settled down', making it hard for them to go on more adventures (which is why Disney resort to inventing children for the sequels).

I don't think there has been a sequel to 'The Aristocats' or 'Sword in the Stone', either.

::Imagines a sequel to Sleeping Beauty starring Aurora's insomniac daughter and goes insane::