C&C - Eureka Seven - "Acperience 4" [3/30]

[Rolling Cloud]

Psalms of Planets: Eureka Seven

Episode: 47

TV Rating: TV – 14 (on ASF)

Last time: Eureka and the kids tended to Renton’s injuries and fever, inside of a tent. When asked to get some water, the kids found themselves unable to due to the rain blocking the way out. Having a seizure of pain, Renton freaked out causing Eureka to hold him and restrain him. Never wanting to have to do this to her lover, Eureka’s sadness found away out and showed itself. This act of selflessness caused an awesome (yet, slightly painful) transformation in her causing her arm to turn green and green butterfly wings to sprout out of her back. Coincidentally, the rain stopped after this and they were free to go outside. Renton’s fever broke and he joined the gang outside, taking full notice of Eureka’s change. Renton and Eureka (Finally!!!) proclaim their love for each other. As the groups (plus the Nirvash) proceed to trek towards their promised goal, a mysterious figure is seen up ahead. Behold, Renton’s sister, Diane!!!

Tonight: We find out the reason for Diane's appearance in the Zone. She explains all about the Scub Coral and what is about to happen with Dewey's plans.

Notes of Interest:

Original Unshortened Opening: "Sakura" by NIRGILIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0oe7...elated&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0oe7pNmqI0&mode=related&search=)
Original Unshortened Ending:” Canvas by Coolon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wQ4iDgYsU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wQ4iDgYsU)
It is up on the fix, so I put it up now!
3 more episodes after this!!
Next episode: Ballet Mechanique!

[FlyByNite77]

So we get the explanation of the Scub coral and find out that humans are living inside of it with their consciousness, kinda like the nexus wave in Star Trek: Generations I suppose.

I dunno why Renton was able to communicate with Diane, but Adrock never said anything to him.

I always snicker when I see Dewey at the end of the episode. I imagine him in a meeting and talking like Dr. Evil and saying "NO NO NO! I MUST HAVE A BUTTON TO PRESS! I MUST HAVE IT! MAKE ME A BUTTON TO PUSH!"

next episode... My favorite of the series. :)

[Neo Ultra Mike]

I dunno why Renton was able to communicate with Diane, but Adrock never said anything to him.

Maybe at this point Adrock didn't feel like there was anything left to say (notice how he didn't speak to Eureaka and the kids either). Perhaps everyone else except Diane in the library has pretty much gotten us to staying there and not communicating too much with outsiders. Or maybe they're still reading up on the troop and trying to accept it or something. But I'm sure there's some reason behind it.

This is the final Acpierence and the final big explanation episode. Here we find out what Scub Corals are, what relation they have with the earth, why humans evacuated the planet, just where Renton's sister and father have been, just why humans have a problem with the coral and what will be needed to do to fix the problem. In other words one of those big talk episodes. I did like however Renton and Eureka's resolve to do whatever it takes for humanity and scubs to work together in harmony. To join together and save the planet and not force a war or evolution on either end. This will probably be a prominent part of the focus of the next three eps which are the last three as we'll probably get some serious fighting done in them. This was a good character piece though and may be the last full focus character one of the show. So yeah even if it was a lot of talking it was pretty good talking all the same.

[Captain Highwind]

I really liked this episode.

So many happy anime moments lately

[Swordfish_II]

So are Earth and the planet everyone else is on in parallel dimensions/universes or something?

[Funkatron]

So are Earth and the planet everyone else is on in parallel dimensions/universes or something?

Nope. The old earth is underground, thats all.

[djthomp]

Nope. The old earth is underground, thats all.

Yeah, which is why the 'omg they just did the same thing as FMA' thing back a few episodes really wasn't the same thing. And also, finally an answer to the 'what the hell is wrong with this planet' question I know I had since back to almost the beginning of the series.

next episode... My favorite of the series. :)

Oh hell yeah.

[Swordfish_II]

Nope. The old earth is underground, thats all.So the planet they're on now surrounds Earth? Or is it on the skub coral that grew all over the Earth?

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I have yet to watch this episode, but from reading the responces all ready, I'm starting to get some weird Matrix vibe...please tell me I'm wrong.(*Not a Matrix person*)

[djthomp]

Naw, unless you are referring to the underground location of zion, this is nothing like the matrix. The only similarities I can see is that they are underground a bit of the time; the overall plot is completely different.

[blitzkrieg]

Guess this week was a bad week not to watch E7 on [as] Fix.

[Lutochris]

So was this on the fix or not? Will next week have 48 or just 47 again?

[Master Moltar]

It was on the Fix. Most likely, they'll just not put up Episode 48 next week.

[LordTerminal]

Well if I find out that I missed this episode because I didn't stay up throughout that Perfect Hair Forever April Fools crap, I'm gonna be pissed. (And then.....well let's not discuss that here)

[sikvod00]

What a terrible April Fools joke.:mad:

[Dark Moridin]

Is this thing going all nite, or are they going to show the regular shows during the second half???
how does this work with schedualing??? should i even stay up for the second half of AS?
what time does the second half actually start (I usually record and watch on sundays while hung over. never know the times as i fast forward thru the commercials)


SCREW YOU FOREVER, AS!

[Kitschensyngk]

Dear [adult swim],You owe me an Eureka Seven.

Gypping me of a new episode of a series I'm really getting into one hour before it is supposed to air is unacceptable, even if that time is spent airing an impromptu Perfect Hair Forever "fansub" marathon in reverse chronological order with crappy VHS tape effects and Babelfish subtitles.

I don't care what today is.
Sincerely,

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k22/Kitschensyngk/kitschensyngk.jpg


P.S. We all know you're not airing the movie tonight.

[Zach Logan]

I wish they read the posts here and aired them...

[Rolling Cloud]

So, what do I do this upcoming friday about the talkbacks?

[Swordfish_II]

So, what do I do this upcoming friday about the talkbacks?
Well, I don't see any reason to get rid of this one, assuming someone changes the title back.

[LordTerminal]

So they didn't air it after all I take it?

[Rolling Cloud]

Well, I don't see any reason to get rid of this one, assuming someone changes the title back.

I'll keep it up then!

So they didn't air it after all I take it?

No, an episode of PHF took the slot!

[G1Ravage]

So, does this mean the episodes of Eureka Seven, Bleach, and Blood+, that were originally scheduled to air this weekend, will instead air next weekend? Or are they only viewable on Adult Swim Fix this time around? Or will these episodes simply be skipped on TV?

[XOMiss_Samantha]

So, does this mean the episodes of Eureka Seven, Bleach, and Blood+, that were originally scheduled to air this weekend, will instead air next weekend? Or are they only viewable on Adult Swim Fix this time around? Or will these episodes simply be skipped on TV?


Next week

[Space Chief]

So, does this mean the episodes of Eureka Seven, Bleach, and Blood+, that were originally scheduled to air this weekend, will instead air next weekend? Or are they only viewable on Adult Swim Fix this time around? Or will these episodes simply be skipped on TV?

They'll air 'em in place of the ATHF movie. I know this to be true.

[v1cious]

They'll air 'em in place of the ATHF movie. I know this to be true.

i would laugh so hard if this happened.

[Dangerous_D]

Dear [adult swim],You owe me an Eureka Seven.


Gypping me of a new episode of a series I'm really getting into one hour before it is supposed to air is unacceptable, even if that time is spent airing an impromptu Perfect Hair Forever "fansub" marathon in reverse chronological order with crappy VHS tape effects and Babelfish subtitles.


I don't care what today is.
Sincerely,

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k22/Kitschensyngk/kitschensyngk.jpg


P.S. We all know you're not airing the movie tonight.


this isn't the first time that AS has doen this on a night when Eureka Seven is sposed to be on, like the 2 other other times when it wasn't on for 3 weeks cause of the inuyasha movie marathons, if it wasn;t for those we be done witht eh series, but god I hate waiting, especially on the nights I have to work when it's on and I have to wait until I get home to watch it on the TIVO

[Kitschensyngk]

this isn't the first time that AS has doen this on a night when Eureka Seven is sposed to be on, like the 2 other other times when it wasn't on for 3 weeks cause of the inuyasha movie marathons, if it wasn;t for those we be done witht eh series, but god I hate waiting, especially on the nights I have to work when it's on and I have to wait until I get home to watch it on the TIVO

Those times were different. We knew of those marathons in advance.

[Dangerous_D]

Those times were different. We knew of those marathons in advance.

personally I could care less for these inyuasha movie marathons since most of them were already shown on AS, bad enought the show is run back to back monday thru thursday

[adoptedBatpuppy]

Why is there a talkback when the episode had not aired this past Saturday on Adult Swim? :shrug:
Does anyone know why CN skipping out on Eureka Seven episodes? :sad:
Thank you

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Why is there a talkback when the episode had not aired this past Saturday on Adult Swim? :shrug:
Does anyone know why CN skipping out on Eureka Seven episodes? :sad:
Thank you


CN isn't skipping out on episodes. Because of April FoolsDay, they pushed back the episode that should have aired on Sat., to this Sat. It was more of a joke for people who expected to see the episodes, only to get PHF instead.

[Dangerous_D]

they'll rue the day for this one

[Rolling Cloud]

Since this episode is up on the fix again, I'm reopening discussion (not that it was ever closed to begin with! :sweat: )

Feel free to discuss: Acperience 4!

[toxicvarn90]

This episode was great, but after viewing this episode I noticed something. Japanese people are such environmentalists! This is like the fourth anime I have seen where it involves a natural planet being destroyed by human technology and the protagonist has to save it. Explains why Kyoto bill exits.

After viewing this episode I have started to have empathy over Dewey. He just wants the old Earth back, or at least thats what he's saying to the people.

[Vyse]

This episode was great, but after viewing this episode I noticed something. Japanese people are such environmentalists! This is like the fourth anime I have seen where it involves a natural planet being destroyed by human technology and the protagonist has to save it. Explains why Kyoto bill exits.

After viewing this episode I have started to have empathy over Dewey. He just wants the old Earth back, or at least thats what he's saying to the people.
Holy crap! You feel empathy for the ******bag known as Dewey? Sure, he may want the old Earth back, but the way he has done it (including treating his younger brother like crap, killing his dad ritualistically, his obsession with young girls, and a Gendo complex), still qualifies him for a death befitting an a-hole.

You also bring up a point about Japan's obsession with the environment. I think it has more to do with the culture of Japan and having a respect for the environment than it does with a political agenda. E7 does have that hint of Nausicaa or Princess Mononoke, except it uses giant, air-surfing mecha and music references instead of the Miyazaki touch.

PS: Welcome to TZ!

[Dangerous_D]

damn adult swim, it's not even on there fix tonight

[toxicvarn90]

Holy crap! You feel empathy for the ******bag known as Dewey? Sure, he may want the old Earth back, but the way he has done it (including treating his younger brother like crap, killing his dad ritualistically, his obsession with young girls, and a Gendo complex), still qualifies him for a death befitting an a-hole.


The writers at E7 sure have done a good job at making Dewey a very hateable guy.

[FlyByNite77]

Yea there's a lot of pro-environmental stuff in anime and not to get too academic, but I think some of the sentiments in the Japanese from the environment is passed down from previous generations who witnessed/lived through/lived after the most horrible environmental attack on a nation that has ever happened in the two atomic bombs dropped in WW2.

I think Miyazaki was heavily influenced by this and I think anyone who goes into anime is familiar and influenced by Miyazaki.

Shoji Kawamori is responsible for what I would say is the most decidedly pro-environment anime ever produced in Arjuna and one of his lastest works had similar themes (not to the same extent as Arjuna) and that was Genesis of Aquarion. He also happens to be on the staff on Eureka 7 doing the mech designs, don't think he's involved with creative story decision, but I'm sure the head writer knows his work.

Dai Sato who is the head writer on Eureka 7 visits a similar theme for the Earth in Ergo Proxy with it suffering tremendous environmental damage.

[djthomp]

I'm not sure I see the environmentalist connection. They're like 10,000 years past the point of having a natural planet or environment, theres nothing natural about it at this point. I mean, were talking about the miles and miles thick exterior of an alien life form completely covering the original planet.

[v1cious]

i forgot how much of a ******bag Dewey is. i love it.

[Katsumara]

An asshat of epic proportions.

[Hyper Shadow X]

This was suppost to be 48! damn apirl fools

[beren]

Wow, this is a really amazing show.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

This episode made up for it's lack of action with it's surplus of me being confused. I think by the end however, I slightly understood what Renton's sister was trying to say. I still don't like her though. Something about her just doesn't sit well with me. Not to mention Adrock who doesn't even bother to greet his son.

Dewy continues to be an idiot. What else is new. I should work on getting over my small% ofstill likeing him.*slaps self*.

[Botman]

This episode was great, but after viewing this episode I noticed something. Japanese people are such environmentalists! This is like the fourth anime I have seen where it involves a natural planet being destroyed by human technology and the protagonist has to save it. Explains why Kyoto bill exits.

After viewing this episode I have started to have empathy over Dewey. He just wants the old Earth back, or at least thats what he's saying to the people.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way. Assuming he has no ulterior motives, I can see myself agreeing with Dewey on this matter. When I thought that the planet they were living on was a different one, I had my doubts, but after this episode, things have changed. Earth should be under human control.

I've also noticed that some anime tend to view humans with disdain. The endings of Blue Gender and Wolf's Rain in particular tend to be one giant "screw you" to human society.

[LiquidXIR]

E7 is a special show because it actually makes a guy named Dewey threatening and for that it should be remembered

[PickHut]

I find it hilarious that in this and some of the last few episodes that Dewey almost always appears right at the end of an episode after a feel-good moment with dread. Anyway, it was an enjoyable episode. I was a bit worried in the beginning that it would just drown in a sea of mind**** moments, but it didn't. I basically got most of what was explained.

[Kitschensyngk]

This week's poem requires music.
[puts on record]

You're a boy who was a man who is a tree

[record scratch]
Whoops. Sorry.

[Greensleeves plays in background]

I can't believe there's just four shows left
It feels like it had begun last week
We've come so far since that Monday blue
As now our good guys are up Feces Creek
E-Seven is justly praised
Two lovebirds, some kids and a Gundam rig
I'm dreading that Saturdays
Won't be the same with just 2ND GIG.

So Renton's sister's alive and well
And living in a library
She tells him all that we've learned by now
On top of a lesson in history
Eureka meets Adrock-san
And tells him all of the things she saw
Maurice, Maeter and Linck as well
Meet Mama's eventual dad-in-law.

The Scub Corals landed on Earth way back
To start up a conversation
The humans freaked when they multiplied
A global evacuation
Scubs just wanted to make some friends
But methods they used were a tad abrupt
Our two sweethearts must save the world
'Cause now the ante's just been upped.

Now Dewey's got him a laser beam
To blow the whole cluster to smithereens
He pushed that red button at the end
It made me almost crap my jeans
Don't shoot, we've got kids down there
Who posthumously would be sorely missed
One hair on their heads gets singed
And Holland would be royally pissed.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I was a bit worried in the beginning that it would just drown in a sea of mind**** moments, but it didn't. I basically got most of what was explained.


ah, reminds me of the good old days of Neon Genesis. This episode reminded me of those mind **** moments too, sadly. (But at least this is more understandable IMO)

[Lutochris]

ah, reminds me of the good old days of Neon Genesis. This episode reminded me of those mind **** moments too, sadly. (But at least this is more understandable IMO)

Well let's see...Renton's sister wants the entire human race to merge together with the Corallians to exist as a consciousness of pure energy. Hmm, sound familiar?

[Kitschensyngk]

E7 is a special show because it actually makes a guy named Dewey threatening and for that it should be remembered

Yeah, the last time we had a villain named Dewey, all we had to worry about was his sinister decimal system. :p

[Anyone00]

Well let's see...Renton's sister wants the entire human race to merge together with the Corallians to exist as a consciousness of pure energy. Hmm, sound familiar?

Just think if Dewey or the previous regime just went for Centauri Psi and followed that things would have been so much simpler :shrug: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDgXQPxzY8E)

"No longer mere earthbeings and planetbeings are we, but bright children of the stars! And together we shall dance in and out of ten billion years, celebrating the gift of consciousness until the stars themselves grow cold and weary, and our thoughts turn again to the beginning."

[Ackar]

I still don't like her though. Something about her just doesn't sit well with me. Not to mention Adrock who doesn't even bother to greet his son.

That's because they aren't the originals, they're the 'ghosts' uploaded into the group consciousness of the coral.

In many anime series, people that have uploaded themselves digitally, or into a communal neural mass are portrayed as loosing some of their humanity by seperating from their physical form. The same dissociation seems to be used here.

Just think if Dewey or the previous regime just went for Centauri Psi and followed that things would have been so much simpler :shrug: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDgXQPxzY8E)

"No longer mere earthbeings and planetbeings are we, but bright children of the stars! And together we shall dance in and out of ten billion years, celebrating the gift of consciousness until the stars themselves grow cold and weary, and our thoughts turn again to the beginning."

So my Alpha Centuari guesses from the beginning of the series weren't that far off from what was explained in tonights episode. :p

[Anyone00]

So my Alpha Centuari guesses from the beginning of the series weren't that far off from what was explained in tonights episode. :p

Yup; but to be perfectly fair Alpha Centauri took it's ideal from a wide range of different science fiction sources so the ideals for Planet and the Scub Coral might have came from the same sourse... or some of the writers played Alpha Centauri quite alot:D

Yeah, the last time we had a villain named Dewey, all we had to worry about was his sinister decimal system. :p

And his enforcer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZHoHaAYHq8):anime:

[Katsumara]

Haha, that was great.. and yeah, I wish this week was episode 48. =( Next string of things.. 48-50.. Wooboy, hold onto your hats. *Shuts up*

Also, another another note. I got to eat some cake today. It was good.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Haha, that was great.. and yeah, I wish this week was episode 48. =( Next string of things.. 48-50.. Wooboy, hold onto your hats. *Shuts up*

Also, another another note. I got to eat some cake today. It was good.

What are they going to play after it's over? Reruns?

Cake... I had strawberry cake with vanilla frosting last night...It was amazing

[Ishtar]

What are they going to play after it's over? Reruns?

Cake... I had strawberry cake with vanilla frosting last night...It was amazing

According to AS' schedule, they are showing re-runs of Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG.

[LordTerminal]

Crap, I was hoping for E7 reruns since I need a small refresher. I guess it's just more incentive to buy the DVDs eh?

[Kiryu]

Haha, that was great.. and yeah, I wish this week was episode 48. =( Next string of things.. 48-50.. Wooboy, hold onto your hats. *Shuts up*

Also, another another note. I got to eat some cake today. It was good.

its always a good day if there's cake involved, no? :)

It was bizarre that Renton's dad didnt say a word to anyone, I'm sitting there waiting for him to make some big dramatic speech and it just never happened...seems suspicious. Great episode though, how they explain things enough to where you pretty much get the point, but still huh?:confused: just a little bit. I'm soo going to miss this show when its done, it's definitely made its way up my list of favorites.

[bigdeath]

Dewy continues to be an idiot. What else is new. I should work on getting over my small% ofstill likeing him.*slaps self*.

there, there, Its not your fault that you like saddistic psychopaths :evil:

[Scirel]

I'm not sure I see the environmentalist connection. They're like 10,000 years past the point of having a natural planet or environment, theres nothing natural about it at this point. I mean, were talking about the miles and miles thick exterior of an alien life form completely covering the original planet.


not to mention, if Dewey succeeds, he'll end up killing everybody instead of placing the earth under human control.

The Corals screwed up, but at least they seem to acknowledge it and want a peaceful resolution to the situation. If they really wanted to, they could have gone antibody on everyone's ass and killed all of them.

[bigdeath]

I have to side with dewey on this one. I don't want to merge with any alien (unless the alien tricks me by looking like a women)

oh a my favorite episode is coming up next week, go Anomone :D :D :D

[bigdeath]

oh, why do I have to always miss the party on the forums
no one reads my post then :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I have to side with dewey on this one. I don't want to merge with any alien (unless the alien tricks me by looking like a women)


:eek:
If thats true, do you like hanging out with underaged children aswell?

[bigdeath]

:eek:
If thats true, do you like hanging out with underaged children aswell?

if it was legal :evil:

[bigdeath]

there, there, Its not your fault that you like saddistic psychopaths :evil:

there, you miss this sam

[XOMiss_Samantha]

there, you miss this sam


There is nothing wrong with insane characters. It's only anime, of course.

[bigdeath]

well, then theres nothing wrong with hang'in out with underaged girls as long as its an anime and they obey my commands to kill people.

obey my commands......... yeah, I like the sound of that :evil:

now back to my personal outlaw star marithon :D i'm on ep. 16 and counting

english dub of course (why can't they play reruns of outlaw star :crying: )

[Duke]

Enough with the underage perversions.

Anyway, I groaned loudly when it became obvious Adrock would do nothing but give off that stupid smile all episode. I mean, even if he had nothing to say to Renton about the scub corals, he could have at least said some kind words to the son he hasn't seen in practically a decade. Then again, Renton's sister didn't exactly have a natural greeting either...

[bigdeath]

Enough with the underage perversions.

Anyway, I groaned loudly when it became obvious Adrock would do nothing but give off that stupid smile all episode. I mean, even if he had nothing to say to Renton about the scub corals, he could have at least said some kind words to the son he hasn't seen in practically a decade. Then again, Renton's sister didn't exactly have a natural greeting either...

LOL, someone finally readed that :eek:

anyway, I think maybe being stuck in the zone srewed up their brains. They seemed to act a little slow, like their humanity was being sapped.

[bigdeath]

I feel for dewy- I almost feel like plowing the planet away if an alien is taking it over... Call me a xeno-phob (or however you spell that) :(

[Scirel]

I feel for dewy- I almost feel like plowing the planet away if an alien is taking it over... Call me a xeno-phob (or however you spell that) :(


The important thing is, regardless of how the situation started, it is the way it is. you can`t reverse time. What Dewey is doing would destroy EVERYONE on the planet, regardless of species.

the scubs have shown that 1. They are sorry that they made the humans leave, they never meant to cause harm(Imagine if looking at an alien species wiped out their land it's the same principle). and 2. They could kill everyone easily if they wanted to with antibodies. I`d be much happier that they wanted to make peace rather than angry at something they did 10,000 years ago (a length of time that none of us could realistically comprehend in terms of generations).

The scubs' idea was not one they favored, but with dewey in power, merging the two species was the only way for both to survive. Of couse, if dewey was stopped, the issue would be moot, which is what Renton is trying to do, and new relations between the species could be made.

[Paul_Cousins]

ah, reminds me of the good old days of Neon Genesis. This episode reminded me of those mind **** moments too, sadly. (But at least this is more understandable IMO)This reminds me of EVA also, but with one major difference.

Renton...

The scub-cluster wants to do a "end of EVA" mass fusing of humanity in beings of energy and Renton says that is giving up and that there has to be another way.

My respect for Renton as a character just keeps going up.

Renton's optimist attitude really sets him apart from all the another boy mecha pilots in anime.

[MeggieMay]

This episode was great, but after viewing this episode I noticed something. Japanese people are such environmentalists! This is like the fourth anime I have seen where it involves a natural planet being destroyed by human technology and the protagonist has to save it. Explains why Kyoto bill exits.
Actually, I think it is more that those who make anime have strong enviromentalist leanings vs everyone in Japan having them. Keep in mind that these are a the same people who toss out broken TV, computers, washing machines, and other large scale trash, on the walking paths that go up Mt Fuji :sad:. I saw this item on the news on this a few weeks ago - a famous Japanese climber is working to help clean up Mt Fuji, after he helped lead a group that tries to keep Mt. Everest, where it turned out the largest amount of the trash left by hikers has Japanese writing on it (which was a surprise - I'd have figured English language hikers would have been messier but I take it they aren't).

IMO, one should never assume people are reflected 100% correct in TV shows and movies. This is a bad assumption that a lot of non-Americans make about Americans. They believe people in the U.S. are just like the people they see all the time in the TV shows. This means there are people overseas that think people in the U.S. all live someplace that looks like southern California or NYC, drive expensive cars, and have lives like the people on Baywatch or Dallas. A lot of weird misconceptions abound :shrug:.

Anyway, I know my reality has little to do with most U.S. TV shows or movie and I think it is best to remember that when I watch TV from other countries because I'm believe it is probably not something that just happens in U.S. TV/Movies (that is they don't show the other countries in a completely realistic light any more than our TV does).

[XOMiss_Samantha]

This reminds me of EVA also, but with one major difference.

Renton...

The scub-cluster wants to do a "end of EVA" mass fusing of humanity in beings of energy and Renton says that is giving up and that there has to be another way.

My respect for Renton as a character just keeps going up.

Renton's optimist attitude really sets him apart from all the another boy mecha pilots in anime.

Yes, Renton. Renton is NO Shinji, thank god. He has hopes and dreams, rather than sitting in a corner crying and being depressed.

[bigdeath]

Yes, Renton. Renton is NO Shinji, thank god. He has hopes and dreams, rather than sitting in a corner crying and being depressed.

but I thought eva taught us that being a man is about crying in a corner and shaking in fear :confused:

[Paul_Cousins]

Yes, Renton. Renton is NO Shinji, thank god. He has hopes and dreams, rather than sitting in a corner crying and being depressed.I know, and it's the reason I am really enjoying Eureka Seven and I cannot stand EVA.

You can really admire Renton as a person, he's been through a lot, yet he refuses to give up.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I know, and it's the reason I am really enjoying Eureka Seven and I cannot stand EVA.

You can really admire Renton as a person, he's been through a lot, yet he refuses to give up.


Exactly. We don't need two brown hair'd robot politing kids crying in the corner, now do we?

[Paul_Cousins]

Exactly. We don't need two brown hair'd robot politing kids crying in the corner, now do we?Two? You're not counting all those whiny Gundam pilots.

At least Renton actually emotionally matured and grew up some.

[Freedom Fighter]

So, if I heard it right, Dewey is only now telling the world about how they lived on a planet that their ancestors originally left because of the Corollians 'taking over' and now that they've returned, they must kill the Corollians even though technically the planet belongs to them since the humans abandoned it? Man, Dewey just gets off on anything, doesn't he?

Then again, the Corollians did not help their case by attacking/killing innocents, even if they were provoked into doing so by the military. This is still going to be one heck of an uphill battle for Renton and company to win.

The whole merging with the Scubs idea, which is the only way to save the world according to Rent's sis Diane (short of Renton and company miraculously stopping Dewey's massive forces) is weird. Sure, if they look like Eureka and Anemone, I can see some people willing to merge (though not everyone). Of course, that's still better than convincing humans to merge with the Scubs in their amoebic form, which I think no one will accept willingly.

If anything, Dewey brings up a very important question... why did humans return to Earth? Especially if they knew the Corollians were still here? Did they think they were gone? If not, did they think they weren't a threat?

Obviously, there's still a lot of questions to be answered with three episodes to go. Let's hope a lot of them get answered.

And Dewey gets some all-inclusive dramatic 'he deserves it' death.

"Acperience-4": 4.5/5.

[Paul_Cousins]

The whole merging with the Scubs idea, which is the only way to save the world according to Rent's sis Diane (short of Renton and company miraculously stopping Dewey's massive forces) is weird. Sure, if they look like Eureka and Anemone, I can see some people willing to merge (though not everyone). Of course, that's still better than convincing humans to merge with the Scubs in their amoebic form, which I think no one will accept willingly.View it as a snub to End of EVA and it makes sense.

Here we have Renton, in a similar position as Shinji was in at End of EVA, but instead of giving in and ending the world like Shinji did, Renton chooses to fight and not give up.

[LordTerminal]

If anything, Dewey brings up a very important question... why did humans return to Earth? Especially if they knew the Corollians were still here? Did they think they were gone? If not, did they think they weren't a threat?

Considering that no-one knew it was Planet Earth they were on, I'm going to assume that after the Scubs completely overtook the planet and merged with it, Planet Earth didn't look a thing like Earth so when they came back, they mistook it for a completely different planet but capable of sustaining life on it.

[Paul_Cousins]

Considering that no-one knew it was Planet Earth they were on, I'm going to assume that after the Scubs completely overtook the planet and merged with it, Planet Earth didn't look a thing like Earth so when they came back, they mistook it for a completely different planet but capable of sustaining life on it.I agree. There is a scub coral surface covering the true surface of Earth.

[bigdeath]

actually, the earth was repopulated by humans becuase it was always planned for humanity to return the earth. Mostly likely the sages were the decendants of the captains (or overall leaders) of the returning human space ships. When they found the planet they had no Idea that the coral were still there. The coral dedcide to be quiet becuase the last time they try to talk humanity tried to kill them. Plus, after 10,000 you get kind of lonely :)

Anyway, I believe that when the sages found out that the planet was covered with the coral they actually tried to make peace with the aliens. I think that dewy's father was going to sacrifce holland to merg with the coral. Dewy was pissed he wasn't chossen so he killed his father in a ritual he taught would make him the chosen one again. As the years passed, dewy came to belive the coral were an unevolved virus that was to lowly alife form to mirge with humanity. It would degrade the gene pool or more importantly sap the feel will of humans. case in point: everyone would live as thought energy (which make you a bit slow and strange) like renton's sister and dad instead of acually living life in the real world. Also, dewey got frustrated with trying to communicate the coralians, remmeber what norbu said: that dewey spent his life searching for a way to be the chosen one(the person that would communicate with the coralian without mergeing). Yes, dewy tried a peace rezolotuion first. Then, he continue to fail to find a coraline girl to use for the communitaction; just like when holland got rejected by elreka (remember that awkward scene with her line: no, I don't like you that way).

After, this dewey tried to create fake coraline for him to use but the only succes was anomone and it left her unstable with a constand need of drugs or her will to do anything would sap away (the scene with anomone just laying around) -- along with her life of course (remember that nose bleed when we first meet her -- thats her brain going to mush like the other girls that died under this experment). Well, finally dewy just gave up and decide that coralins were not worth the effort when He could just use their deaths to make him self the chosen one himself aka humanity savior. We are seeing how thats playing out. As to why he has little girls as his foot soilders: you got to get them young to effectively brainwash them into perfect little soilder who (unlike domonic) won't have doubts about your orders. they must have been orphains from a previous war just like animone and domonic. That and it aparently very japanese to like little girls (this is a joke... well sort of :evil: ).

pewh, that was long :sweat: thanks for reading and I hope I explain everthing about dewy for you (he's my third favorite charcater (you have to admit, hes a great villian), behind anomone (the love intrest) and my favorite domonic (he just like me, no sense of direction, trys to be romanic and gets shot down, and can't express his feelings without sounding like a child, though I can hold in my stomach a lot better then him)

oh, and next ep. we get the anomone side-story resolve (YEAH :D )

[adoptedBatpuppy]

It was good episode with a lot of catching up to do with the characters.
I don't get it, Are Renton's sister and father dead? Are they alive but in the different world, within the scub coral? Why Can't they leave? How come Eureka and kids can't see them or get inside? :confused: Why is Renton's dad failing to communicate with him? Thank you

[bigdeath]

I believe Renton's father and sister exist only as memories of the coralians. Thats why they act a bit strangly

[adoptedBatpuppy]

So do they exist within Eureka's or/and Renton's mind?
Are they dead, then? :confused:

[bigdeath]

Just think of coralians as a computer. Reton's family is recorded in memmory. As to wether their alive is a keen to asking if you downloaded your brain to a computer and got rid of your body, would you still be alive?

Dewy's a man who would probaly say no and therefore merging with coralians would be the same as killing humanity.

The gekko state thinks differently, of course.