View Full Version : Co-Creator of ATHF Bringing New Live-Action Series to Adult Swim
B-D reporter Brian Collins writes in, "While out doing press for First Look Pictures' Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film For Theaters, ATHF co-creator (and voice of Meatwad) Matt Maiellaro revealed he is working on a live action horror show for Adult Swim, tentatively titled Stiff. Maiellaro described it as a cross “between Kolchak and Evil Dead 2.” Hopefully we will hear more about this soon. Matt is no stranger to the genre, having directed 2nd unit on films such as Hellraiser III and Basket Case 3. The ATHF movie will hit theaters on April 13."
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/8464
....Sounds...interesting. Comments?
Dark Fact
03-22-2007, 11:54 PM
If Bruce Campbell is in this, I'm sold.
Kitschensyngk
03-23-2007, 12:38 AM
Would this be action or comedy? Because it'd be nice if they started putting out their own action shows (a la Korgoth or Big O II).
ATHF co-creator (and voice of Meatwad) Matt MaiellaroIsn't Dave Willis the voice of Meatwad?
Master Moron
03-23-2007, 01:19 AM
You'd think they would have learned not to do live action by now, but this is Adult Swim we're talking about.
Discloner
03-23-2007, 01:31 AM
Adult Swim....why are you continuing down this road? Why must you keep breaking my heart. :sad:
Neo Ultra Mike
03-23-2007, 01:33 AM
No offense to Matt Maileraro and all, but he can't do solo projects on his own. As he can't do GOOD solo projects on his own. Between 12 Oz Mouse and now this, it's apparent that if he wants to actually produce good work he needs to stick with Dave Willis. Like freaking glue. And not get pulled into this world wind of bad idea after bad idea.
The Myst
03-23-2007, 01:37 AM
Would this be action or comedy? Because it'd be nice if they started putting out their own action shows (a la Korgoth or Big O II).
Isn't Dave Willis the voice of Meatwad?
Yep, Dave does Meatwad, Carl, and Ignignokt. Matt does Err and The Cybernetic Ghost Of Christmas Past From The Future.
The Myst
03-23-2007, 01:39 AM
No offense to Matt Maileraro and all, but he can't do solo projects on his own. As he can't do GOOD solo projects on his own. Between 12 Oz Mouse and now this, it's apparent that if he wants to actually produce good work he needs to stick with Dave Willis. Like freaking glue. And not get pulled into this world wind of bad idea after bad idea.
I disagree. I loved 12OZMO. Besides, we've never even SEEN this, how can you declare it bad? I don't like the idea of live action any more than you do and I'm *****ing about it on AIM with a friend right now but this might be good.
In any case, it's not like Dave Willis has done better without Matt. Squidbillies started good and turned to crap somewhere into season two.
In other news, Adult Swim continues to hate on its loyal fans.
Live action isn't getting great ratings. Family Guy and its ilk are. AS should spend less time approving live action shows and giving them season long contracts without even looking at the pilot...and more time trying to get back American Dad.
The Myst
03-23-2007, 03:54 AM
I'm considering making an 11 minute live action pilot myself about my zany adventures. I'm sure AS would pick it up.
Mugen
03-23-2007, 02:01 PM
Adult Swim....why are you continuing down this road? Why must you keep breaking my heart. :sad:
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with AS airing live-action. Unlike CN, there is nothing in their name that contradicts them airing live-action. The problem is that because AS shares channel space with CN, it's just bringing more live-action to the network.
CartoonSwim69
03-23-2007, 03:51 PM
I disagree. I loved 12OZMO. Besides, we've never even SEEN this, how can you declare it bad? I don't like the idea of live action any more than you do and I'm *****ing about it on AIM with a friend right now but this might be good.
In any case, it's not like Dave Willis has done better without Matt. Squidbillies started good and turned to crap somewhere into season two.
I thought Season 2 was much funnier than the first year.
The Myst
03-23-2007, 04:20 PM
I thought Season 2 was much funnier than the first year.
I think it started off funnier and then went bad at some point. There are some episodes which are so bad I just can't watch them.
Master Moron
03-23-2007, 09:33 PM
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with AS airing live-action.
Except for the the fact that they don't have the budget to do good live action. I mean, I know part of the joke of Saul is that it's supposed to look like crap. But, both Saul and Tim and Eric look like they belong on a public access channel. With animation they can make a show look decent with a crappy budget, but with live action it just looks bad.
The Myst
03-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Well, that's the point of both shows.
Saul's production sucks because it's a parody of crappily produced 60's shows.
T&E's production sucks because it's the exact same shtick they did on their website before they even got on AS, back when they didn't even have a budget at all.
Neo Ultra Mike
03-25-2007, 10:08 AM
In any case, it's not like Dave Willis has done better without Matt. Squidbillies started good and turned to crap somewhere into season two.
That's something we'll have to agree to disagree with. I won't say anything else about my dislike for 12 Oz Mouse but I do think Squidbillies Season 2 is better then one and a lot better then 12 Oz Ounce. Yeah some episodes were uneven but the ones that hit were actually quite funny (the one with the sheriff and Early fueding, the Halloween ep and the Christmas ep) and season one only had one pretty good ep (the racist one) compared to two.
Besides, we've never even SEEN this, how can you declare it bad? I don't like the idea of live action any more than you do and I'm *****ing about it on AIM with a friend right now but this might be good.
Sorry but any claims of goodness a project has is lost if it's on CN and is majorly live action. Because it's still betraying the image of the network and is only put on because it's cheaper/believe what kids want to see/desperation/pissing off fans (obviously this is talking about both regular CN and AS). Besides any live action show coming now will be compared to Saul and Tim and Eric and that's not exactly a good thing to be compared to. It'd have to rise a lot higher them to be considered quality is all I'm saying.
Ishtar
03-25-2007, 10:41 AM
So Time & Eric, and Saul Of The Mole Men weren't enough as live action programming for Adult Swim? Sigh:sweat: . However, this looks like an action based live action show, not a comedy based show for once.
The Myst
03-25-2007, 05:52 PM
Sorry but any claims of goodness a project has is lost if it's on CN and is majorly live action. Because it's still betraying the image of the network and is only put on because it's cheaper/believe what kids want to see/desperation/pissing off fans (obviously this is talking about both regular CN and AS). Besides any live action show coming now will be compared to Saul and Tim and Eric and that's not exactly a good thing to be compared to. It'd have to rise a lot higher them to be considered quality is all I'm saying.
It's not on Cartoon Network. It's on Adult Swim. As much as we hate it, they're separate networks and AS doesn't have to be purely cartoons.
Lutochris
03-26-2007, 02:41 AM
There's also the fact that Tim & Eric and Saul are funnier than all but a few animated shows they've ever made. Yeah, it's a real shame they're making live action stuff. Whatever. :shrug:
There's also the fact that Tim & Eric and Saul are funnier than all but a few animated shows they've ever made. Yeah, it's a real shame they're making live action stuff. Whatever. :shrug:
Um, no they're not. [/opinions]
No one's going to be happy. Do you continue to air animated projects with budgets so small they barely qualify as cartoons, or do you air live action that will get more bang for the buck but not be a cartoon at all?
Decisions, decisions.
Lutochris
03-26-2007, 12:00 PM
I don't care what medium they choose, as long as it's funny. If you don't like Tim & Eric cause you can't dig their style of comedy, fine. But if you don't watch it for no other reason than it's live action, that's retarded.
Deadman
03-29-2007, 08:38 PM
i just hope it ends up being a good show.
danreyes1
03-31-2007, 10:55 PM
Ok seriously, Adult Swim was my last bastion for quality animation. ANIMATION. Why oh why is Cartoon Network trying to drive me away?
The Wolverine
03-31-2007, 10:58 PM
Ok seriously, Adult Swim was my last bastion for quality animation. ANIMATION. Why oh why is Cartoon Network trying to drive me away?
Adult Swim isn't Cartoon Network, sorry.
They're different networks. They just share a channel.
and since as is a different network, they don't have to show animation.
If Adult Swim aired on TBS, no one would be having this argument.
danreyes1
04-01-2007, 02:53 AM
Adult Swim isn't Cartoon Network, sorry.
They're different networks. They just share a channel.
and since as is a different network, they don't have to show animation.
My stance is this: Adult Swim is a block, not a seperate network. Sorry.
Any supposed network seperation is for nielson ratings only, not content.
Know what it says on the bottom of the Adult Swim website? "TM & © 2007 Cartoon Network." Proof enough for me.
Adult Swim was created to bring animation to adult audiences, not low-brow live action comedy. You can find plenty of that on Comedy Central already.
If Adult Swim aired on TBS, no one would be having this argument.
Too true. I guess they just didn't expect so many animation fans to care =P
Zach Logan
04-02-2007, 12:21 AM
Legalized Bump.
Master Moron
04-03-2007, 12:40 AM
Adult Swim isn't Cartoon Network, sorry.
They're different networks. They just share a channel.
and since as is a different network, they don't have to show animation.
They are now, but they weren't when most of us started watching Adult Swim. I started watching Adult Swim to see Space Ghost, Harvey Birdman, and Cowboy Bebop. All animated shows. No one started watching Adult Swim to watch live action shows. We started watching Adult Swim to watch animation. We have a right to complain.
Mr. Manager
04-03-2007, 12:57 AM
Adult Swim isn't Cartoon Network, sorry.
They're different networks. They just share a channel.
and since as is a different network, they don't have to show animation.I see Adult Swim as a block. Sure, it's counted seperately in the Nielsens but when you're watching TV, it's not like Adult Swim and Cartoon Network are on two different channels. When shows on Adult Swim are advertised, they advertise the shows as being on Cartoon Network or Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.
The Wolverine
04-03-2007, 01:04 AM
Adult Swim was created to bring animation to adult audiences, not low-brow live action comedy. You can find plenty of that on Comedy Central already.
Please tell that to the guys at Williams Street. They disagree.
Antiyonder
04-03-2007, 01:05 AM
My stance is this: Adult Swim is a block, not a seperate network. Sorry.
Any supposed network seperation is for nielson ratings only, not content.
Know what it says on the bottom of the Adult Swim website? "TM & © 2007 Cartoon Network." Proof enough for me.
Adult Swim was created to bring animation to adult audiences, not low-brow live action comedy. You can find plenty of that on Comedy Central already.
Too true. I guess they just didn't expect so many animation fans to care =P
I look at the network as a whole now, and rmember what a particular bumper said back then. About CN being the one network where the term Cartoon wasn't a bad word. I think that has to do with the complaint towards Adult Swim if anything. And as has been stated, there are plenty of live action programs for adult audiences. So at least give us cartoons or give us death. LOL!
The Myst
04-03-2007, 01:46 AM
Though you have to realize one thing about these live action shows and that's that they're more cartoony and bizarre than anything that airs anywhere else.
Saul is basically a cartoon, it's just performed live action.
Tim And Eric already was a cartoon. It's just Tom without a plot.
Mr. Manager
04-03-2007, 01:47 AM
it's just performed live action.Which means it's no longer a cartoon.
The Wolverine
04-03-2007, 01:48 AM
Which means it's no longer a cartoon.
It's a live-action cartoon.
Mr. Manager
04-03-2007, 01:55 AM
It's a live-action cartoon.That's an oxymoron.
The Myst
04-03-2007, 02:59 AM
Live-action cartoon seems like an oxymoron but it's not. It's a live action show that's cartoony which is what Saul is.
Another example would be The Pitts.
Mr. Manager
04-03-2007, 10:18 AM
Something may be a live-action show that's cartoony but that doesn't mean it should be on CN.
Lutochris
04-03-2007, 03:56 PM
I think you're all being very uptight. Honestly I don't care. If a show is funny and offbeat, then I don't care if it's animated or not, it can be on AS. If it's more of a conventional comedy, I'd probably have more of a problem. Tim & Eric and Saul I consider to fit in very well with AS's overall brand/style of comedy. If they were to show something like Everybody Loves Raymond, for instance, I would have a problem though. Raymond you can see on 10 different channels, and you can see that style of comedy anywhere. There is nowhere else in the known universe where you could see Tim & Eric or Saul style of comedy. Thus, AS can show it without losing definition.
yea i would rather watch i crummy cartoon than a crummy live action show. Also reason no channel has style of comedy like Saul or Tom and Eric is because they wouldn't survive on an audience that large. AS has around million viewers audience, other stations can triple that easily. If shows like this were on any other station, they would get a lot of "what were they thinking?" T&E are Tom Green wannabes but cant pull it off. All I think about T&E and saul are they are lazy and dont want to make cartoons instead put people to do the stuff cartoons would do. I bet at this point you will see fox's The Winner be picked up on AS. Ratings on that so low, must be cheap. Thats the AS spirit!
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