Daylight Savings Time: Time to 'Spring Ahead' 1 hour.

[tucsoncoyote]

It's time .. about time..

Yes folks, Daylight savings time is upon us early this year and as of 2AM (Local time) This morning in most of the United States (with the exceptions of most of Arizona and Parts of Indiana*), Everyone will have to move their clocks ahead 1 hour... that means when the clock is 2 AM it's then 3 AM..and This year we get an extra 4 weeks of Daylight Savings Time with the Time change ending the first Sunday in November...

So set those Clocks (Forward, as in ahead) 1 hour tonight.. you'll be thankful you did.

Oh and to Temple Fugate, will Jack Bauer set his clock ahead one hour tonight? (you tell me). :p

*For those of you who don't know what time it is? Go to www.time.gov (http://www.time.gov) (not .com).

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[Mynd Hed]

Anyone else think it's funny that this thread was posted by someone who lives in one of the few states that DOESN'T observe DST? (-:

[The Wolverine]

^ Technically a part of AZ (the Navajo Nation, which is 1/4 of the state's total area) does obsverse DST.

And to those in Pulaski Co, Indiana, you spring forward two hours.

[Lord Dalek]

Technically the pun doesn't work since its still winter.

You lose again.

[tucsoncoyote]

Anyone else think it's funny that this thread was posted by someone who lives in one of the few states that DOESN'T observe DST? (-:

and that Mynd Head, is why we're the smart ones! We don't have to do that but then like cynic beau pointed out, the NE corner of Arizona (The Navajo Nations near the Four Corners Area) do observe DST... but the rest of us? Nope we don't have to do anything, and we get to laugh at you as we Arizonans watch what I call, "the American Version of a Chinese Fire drill" begin, as everyone scrambles to set their clocks on all their devices one hour ahead. All we have to do in Arizona is say that we're on 'California Time'. (which we are as during the Spring and summer, as Mountain Standard Time is the same as Pacific Daylight Savings Time).

(and here's a little known fact...Do you know folks, that most clock shop owners have to spend up to 5 hours to just set all their clocks 1 hour ahead?).. What's up with that??!!!

Also Cynic you are right, Pulaski County, Indiana, has to jump ahead 2 hours... I bet the clock shops there really love that!

But right now? I feel like the French Guard at the castle in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. After all does it really save us money to move the clocks around? I think not.

Technically the pun doesn't work since its still winter.

You lose again.

Ah Lord Dalek, I guess you didn't get the memo Eh? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17517796/) No, no, You lose!

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[Beat]

I still think moving DST ahead 3 weeks was a stupid idea. It's causing panic more than anything in the tech industry (Ohnoes Y2K!).

[tucsoncoyote]

I still think moving DST ahead 3 weeks was a stupid idea. It's causing panic more than anything in the tech industry (Ohnoes Y2K!).

Gee to Quote Peter Griffin of Family Guy: Will this set off the Nuclear Missiles? Oh Noes Indeed!

[Kury Wagner]

I never liked this stupid occasion, and Congress' lovely decision only makes me loathe it more. Plus, I just remembered, I need to install the update on Alfie. Dammit.

Ah Lord Dalek, I guess you didn't get the memo Eh? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17517796/)
No, you didn't get the memo-- it's not Spring, yet. Dalek's comment stands.

[tucsoncoyote]

I never liked this stupid occasion, and Congress' lovely decision only makes me loathe it more. Plus, I just remembered, I need to install the update on Alfie. Dammit.
No, you didn't get the memo-- it's not Spring, yet. Dalek's comment stands.

Not to the calendar they say Spring Starts March 22th (and it's funny cause prior to the Gergorian Calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar)that was established by Pope Gregor XIII in 1752, the Julian Calendar lost 11 days from the time Julius Cesar established way back in the day, so when you think about it.. It's March 22nd ergo, it's Spring! That's logic for you...:p

Also that's why I keep telling folks, You folks need to get a clue... Arizonans are definitely the smart ones. Midnight here is still midnight tomorrow night.. so that's why I still laugh.. watching everyone run around like the proverbial sick chicken while we can enjoy Television on Pacific Daylight time..(The Only downside to the time change is that now all the bars and night clubs in California and Arizona now close at 2 am..ah well thems the breaks.)

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[XOMiss_Samantha]

Ug... I'm loosing an hour of my precious sleeeep! [which I should be getting now, actually..] This better not screw up my computer or cause another Y2K panic like I keep hearing about on the news.

[tucsoncoyote]

Ug... I'm loosing an hour of my precious sleeeep! [which I should be getting now, actually..] This better not screw up my computer or cause another Y2K panic like I keep hearing about on the news.

Speaking of Sleep... here's an Article I found. that talks about time and sleep. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077304/)

This should open some sleepy eyes.

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[XOMiss_Samantha]

Speaking of Sleep... here's an Article I found. that talks about time and sleep. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077304/)

This should open some sleepy eyes.

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That was acutally pretty interisting!
and hey look! My comps still working, planes aren't crashing, and the world hasn't ended!

[Temple Fugate]

This couldn't have come at a worse time...finals start Monday. :(

Not to the calendar they say Spring Starts March 22th (and it's funny cause prior to the Gergorian Calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar)that was established by Pope Gregor XIII in 1752, the Julian Calendar lost 11 days from the time Julius Cesar established way back in the day, so when you think about it.. It's March 22nd ergo, it's Spring! That's logic for you...:p Whatever helps you sleep at night. The rest of us are going to be using the modern calendar, if you don't mind.

[Chris Wood]

I never liked this stupid occasion, and Congress' lovely decision only makes me loathe it more.

What's this?! An enemy of Daylight Savings Time?

Don't worry be happy. Looooong afternoons rock.

[tucsoncoyote]

This couldn't have come at a worse time...finals start Monday. :(

Whatever helps you sleep at night. The rest of us are going to be using the modern calendar, if you don't mind.

and yet it's funny Temple, you mention Mondays.. Does this mean Jack Bauer will have to go to '24': Day 6 8PM to 9PM?:p

As for the Calendar, it's really funny cause before the Julian Calendar was updated to the now more Popular Gregorian Calendar, there was a little known error that would cause the calendar to lose days, and if this had continued, Spring indeed would be in fact Celebrated on March 9th or 10th this year 2007..

After all Time is like a river.. it keeps changing...and yes the planes are not falling out of the sky, the Nuclear Missiles aren't launching.. and that Giant Chicken isn't going to beat me up! (Peter Griffin -- Family Guy)

but as for the rest of the world? Time is a silly little game to watch.. after all watching people trying to adapt their ways to a changing time every 6 to 7 months is much like watching water flow uphill.

That was acutally pretty interisting!
and hey look! My comps still working, planes aren't crashing, and the world hasn't ended!

and you know what else is funny? I once had a discussion with a friend about how our bodies run on a "25 hour clock" cycle through out the year. and that really the only planet that has a day that is close to 25 hours a day is in fact... Mars! (At 24 hours, 56 minutes, 4.10 Seconds).

(Gee does this mean 'Men are from Mars, as well as women'?) ;)

Don't worry be happy. Looooong afternoons rock.

Especially if you are in the swimming pool for half the afternoon... then they do rock.. otherwise down here in Southern Arizona? They're about as annoying as gnats, especially with the heat.

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[Chris Wood]

Especially if you are in the swimming pool for half the afternoon... then they do rock.. otherwise down here in Southern Arizona? They're about as annoying as gnats, especially with the heat.

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Ah, but it's a dry heat.;)

[Juu-kuchi]

I don't know whether us in Europe are fortunate or not, to have to wait until the last week of March for DST.

[MeggieMay]

They need to update the Goverment time site - Indiana went on Daylight Savings time, state wide, as of 2005 http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html

Now it's only "Arizona (with the exception of the Navajo Nation) and Hawaii and the territories of Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa" who don't do DST.

[PeppeRaskell1]

My computer survived the time change just fine. (I switched from ME to XP a year or so back, and NOW they tell me about Vista!) The only thing in my house that didn't switch to DST was my VCR, which I had to set manually, along with my clocks, watches, the answering machine, the microwave oven, etc.

IMHO, I don't think an extra hour three weeks early is gonna be much of a trade-in special. (It'll still be dark when I get off work at 8:00 p.m.!):(

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Losing an hour of sleep makes me sad.

Although now that the 'sleep loss' part is done, it is nice to get an extra hour of sun in the afternoon.

Wait, I spend my afternoons in my dorm room watching tv and chatting with people. What do I care?

Yeah, screw you DST.

[New Noise™]

One hour forward? Better go change my clocks!

[Mynd Hed]

Ah, you foolish, foolish, fools! My alarm clock, in a stupid and useless attempt to help me, automatically set itself ahead an hour today, despite the fact that I bought and use it in a state that DOES NOT NOW AND HAS NEVER OBSERVED DAYLIGHT !@#$ SAVINGS TIME.

As I consult the manual, I find that there IS NO OPTION to disable this obnoxious and useless "feature," so now I either have to buy a new alarm clock or reset my clock twice a year like the rest of you barbarians, just because the idiots who designed the thing live in one of the forty-eight stupid states and didn't bother to take the rest of us into account.

[Lord Dalek]

Ah, you foolish, foolish, fools! My alarm clock, in a stupid and useless attempt to help me, automatically set itself ahead an hour today, despite the fact that I bought and use it in a state that DOES NOT NOW AND HAS NEVER OBSERVED DAYLIGHT !@#$ SAVINGS TIME.

As I consult the manual, I find that there IS NO OPTION to disable this obnoxious and useless "feature," so now I either have to buy a new alarm clock or reset my clock twice a year like the rest of you barbarians, just because the idiots who designed the thing live in one of the forty-eight stupid states and didn't bother to take the rest of us into account.My Sony just has a button to push.

Whose the fool now?

[Kevin the Geek]

It looks like my computer was able to switch over to the new time without any problems.

Later today, I will be changing the time on my DVD/VCR combo player and Playstation 2.

[Chris Wood]

I don't understand why the DST change would cause computer problems. What does my computer care? It usually doesn't have the right time anyway.

[purplehairedwonder]

Of all weekends that I could use that extra hour to get some stuff done... Stupid DST.

Then again, having an hour more of sunlight is good for afternoon/evening softball practice so I'm just going to be quiet now.

[Vermunium]

It threw me off, since they moved up DST. I was an hour late for work this morning.

[tucsoncoyote]

I don't understand why the DST change would cause computer problems. What does my computer care? It usually doesn't have the right time anyway.

The Problem is this Chris: Initially computer programs prior to the change in 2005, were giving the correct adjustments due to the algorithmic functions that are built into the machine (Every first weekend in April the clock would change ahead one hour for those who were in the correct areas. (of course the program wouldn't alter the times or would to reflect this.

But because now Congress and the Goiverment put into law this new change, the DST Time change now will occur the first or second weekend in March rather then April (Some 3 weeks earlier then usual). and the time won't revert back to regular (Standard) time until 1 week after the original Normal end of Daylight savings time (which the programs recognized as the last weekend in October.

So because of this new change, sure we get an extra 4 weeks of DST, but the computer doesn't know this. so if you haven't upgraded your software properly (and Microsoft had a patch out as of Early February this year), the computers won't shift over things properly and in the end, time sensitive materials could be determined to be one hour late (and believe me in the point of business having Time Sensitive Material sent can cost a company tens of millions if not billions of bucks.

Also certain companies like Tivo had this issue, and in fact they corrected this problem for their TV Viewers so there won't be issues with scheduling TV Programs (at least you won't be recording a show that comes on an hour later when in reality you could be recording something else.

I mean the computer programmers had 2 years to fix the problems and in fact it seems that very few did. but some didn't and this is what could cost them a lot. And here is a prime Example of this:

It threw me off, since they moved up DST. I was an hour late for work this morning.

Now because of this "Change" this person isn't going to get back an hours worth of pay. And because he was late for work, this could easily cost him wages and if it was severe enough, it could cost some folks their jobs (being an Hour late? some strict bosses really frown upon that. After all it's lost revenue for the Company, which in turn results in Lost wages.

and then you wonder why Arizonans don't change? Well we do, but then the up side is we get off work 1 hour earlier then the usual folks.. Oh sure we have to go into work one hour earlier, but I found when I was working, it was easy to adjust to the change that way...



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[Chris Wood]

The Problem is this Chris: Initially computer programs prior to the change in 2005, were giving the correct adjustments due to the algorithmic functions that are built into the machine (Every first weekend in April the clock would change ahead one hour for those who were in the correct areas. (of course the program wouldn't alter the times or would to reflect this.

But because now Congress and the Goiverment put into law this new change, the DST Time change now will occur the first or second weekend in March rather then April (Some 3 weeks earlier then usual). and the time won't revert back to regular (Standard) time until 1 week after the original Normal end of Daylight savings time (which the programs recognized as the last weekend in October.

So because of this new change, sure we get an extra 4 weeks of DST, but the computer doesn't know this. so if you haven't upgraded your software properly (and Microsoft had a patch out as of Early February this year), the computers won't shift over things properly and in the end, time sensitive materials could be determined to be one hour late (and believe me in the point of business having Time Sensitive Material sent can cost a company tens of millions if not billions of bucks.

I understand, although you'd think this would be something very easy to fix. Doesn't take much effort to reset the clock. There must be a way to do it remotely for an entire office, factory, etc.

[tucsoncoyote]

I understand, although you'd think this would be something very easy to fix. Doesn't take much effort to reset the clock. There must be a way to do it remotely for an entire office, factory, etc.

That's very true Chris, but when you read this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17175286/) (and you look at the one thread I started back in February of this year, it makes you really wonder if the programmers of the computers and other devices were caught napping on the job, or if they were caught flat-footed and didn't have enough time to plan for the case.

Either way when you think about it, if Programs and software are not adjusted certain programs (such as stock trading programs) could be affected and thus again here we have revenue lost.

so in a way it may be easy for a VCR to be reprogrammed, but for software? it's not as easy.

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[The Avatar]

About the computer problems, I got the update from Software Update and installed a patch that they recommanded for Macs. So I have nothing to worry about.

[Vermunium]

Now because of this "Change" this person isn't going to get back an hours worth of pay. And because he was late for work, this could easily cost him wages and if it was severe enough, it could cost some folks their jobs (being an Hour late? some strict bosses really frown upon that. After all it's lost revenue for the Company, which in turn results in Lost wages.

and then you wonder why Arizonans don't change? Well we do, but then the up side is we get off work 1 hour earlier then the usual folks.. Oh sure we have to go into work one hour earlier, but I found when I was working, it was easy to adjust to the change that way...



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In my case though, I have a really lax job, so I just stayed an hour later and made up the time. No one even noticed that I was late in the first place, or not until I brought it up later in the day.

[HauntedLover]

This stuff always confuses me. I only noticed today when I looked at the oven clock at noon. When I went upstairs, my alarm clock read eleven!

[ToOn~g@l]

Man my clock used to change all the time, now because its so early this year it didn't do it. I am sad, its my favorite clock. And it stays lighter forever at work now, Usually the sun is behind the mountains by the time we close but it was still very bright and no one wanted to go home. Needless to say it was a very busy and tiring day, especially from that one hour of sleep lost.

[MeggieMay]

You know, Arizona is defacto changing Time Zones by not going to DST, from Mountain to Pacific for the summer months. This is something most other parts of the U.S. don't want to do to begin with but IMO it works out well for AZ because they are next to California which is in PT. However, if a state like Colorado did this they'd be stuck alone surrounded by MT and Central TZ states. So I don't think you'll be seeing that many other states that interested in trying this out :sweat:.