Talkback: "Pokémon Battle Frontier" - February (Spoilers)

[Duke]

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Pokémon Battle Frontier
January, 2007

Ash and May continue their journies in Kanto, as May competes in the Kanto Pokémon Contests, and Ash takes on the Battle Frontier and the Frontier Brains!

Time: 9:00am & 9:30am Saturdays
8:00pm Monday-Thursday
(All times in Eastern)
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February 3rd, 2007
Pinch Healinghttp://www.toonzone.net/schedule/new.gif

Our heroes continue to wait at the Pokémon Center for Brandon to return from his latest excursion, and Ash continues his rigorous training. However, while staying at the Center, Nurse Joy falls ill! Unable to perform her duties, Brock leads the team in helping to keep the Pokémon Center running while Nurse Joy recovers. Obviously, Team Rocket's not going to let this chance slip them by, and decide to attack. Have they finally succeeded?
Comments: Ah, if only we got a cameo from Dr. Poison...
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February 10th, 2007
Gathering the Gang of Four! http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/new.gif

Brandon's back, and he's got his newest Pokémon! Ready to face Ash in their final challenge, Brandon decides to change the rules a bit and instead of a 1-on-1 against one of his Regis, Brandon challenges Ash to a 4-on-4 battle! Gathering together three of their oldest friends, Ash and Pikachu prepare to do battle against the final Frontier Brain. Has Ash's training paid off, or will Ash be literally frozen in his tracks?
Comments: Much like the last Brandon battle, this is kind of a send-off to some old favorites.
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February 17th, 2007
Pace - The Final Frontier! http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/new.gif

Ash continues his exciting match against Brandon, but with his trump card taken out before Brandon can reveal his newest Pokémon, does Ash even stand a chance against the super-strong Legendary Pokémon, Regice? Ash is going to need to pull every trick out of his arsenal in order to win this match, but was his decision not to go with some of his newer Pokémon like Torkoal or Sceptile going to come back to haunt Ash?
Comments: Anyone who complains about Brandon getting a Regice being a spoiler obviously doesn't actually pay attention to this series at all.
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February 24th, 2007
Once More With Reeling! http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/new.gif

Now that Ash has completed the Battle Frontier, there's not much left for him to do right now. Itching to immediately start on a new journey, Ash considers heading to Sinnou, the land Professor Oak told him Gary is traveling to and a place that supposedly has never-before-seen Pokémon (Which I guarentee we'll see in Kanto after Diamond & Pearl ends). May, however, has a different career path in mind. The two friends decide to have one final match to decide things at a local Contest Hall. What will be the result of the match between Ash and May?
Comments: I'm actually surprised we didn't get a full 6-on-6 battle between the two Trainers.
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NOTES

This is the debut season of Pokémon U.S.A.'s new dub, and the first Pokémon season not to be dubbed by 4Kids.
If the episode's title is a link, then it will lead you to that episode's edit list, courtesy of Dogasu.
Debuts this month: Aside from the TV series debut of Regice, that's it!
[i]Pokémon Battle Frontier is now airing Monday-Thursdays at 8PM!
Ash and Brock become Pokémon nurses again! Though they don't wear the dress...
Ash vs. Brandon: Round III!
Ready...FIGHT!!
May vs. Ash: The Final Battle!
Next month: Next month sees the final episode in the Battle Frontier Saga, the team splitting up, the return of Gary, and depending on what Cartoon Network does, our first glimpse into the world of Sinnou!
If you want to see what Pokémon episodes are airing on Cartoon Network, check out the Miguzi (http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/index.php?browseNetworkID=15), Toonami (http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/index.php?browseNetworkID=13), and Other Premieres on CN (http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/index.php?browseNetworkID=6) schedules.

[yoshirider13]

Todays episode was pretty cool. I like the Joy pimpage.

A couple notes though. Pokemon isn't on at 8pm anymore, and you spelled sinnoh wrong.

:p

[Freedom Fighter]

"They need to be in quarantine!"
"They do?"
"See? They're smoking!"

A good episode, but if anything, this proves that Brock has gotten really good at healing Pokémon and that he needs to go off on his own and get proper training in the profession to become a world-class professional. 'Cause honestly, he ain't improving himself by traveling around with Ash and the gang.

Also, given how slow time passes in this series, even if it's been about a 150 episodes since Ash saw the Bagon at the beginning of US Season 7, you'd think he'd remember Bagon's dream of being able to fly!

Also again... what's up with Ash being strong enough to lift up and throw a decently-sized log into the river to help Bagon?

One thing this episode did well was help show Max is more ready than ever to become a Pokémon trainer officially when he turns ten. He was definitely doing a better job of knowing what the Pokémon wanted so they could be happy and satisfied.

"Pinch Healing!": 3.5/5.

[yoshirider13]

I was laughing out loud a lot when I saw weak ash carry that log XD

[RomanMack]

Ash did once throw a 200-and-something pound Mewtwo into the water like it was nothing. :p

[Jacob T. Paschal]

So, Battle Frontier finally ends with this month, eh? Can't wait.

Surely they aren't going to make us wait THAT long for D&P?

[Duke]

So, Battle Frontier finally ends with this month, eh? Can't wait.
Technically it ends the first week in March.

[Shift]

Seeing as the games come out just a couple of months after the last episode, I'm pretty sure they'll wait for it to premier the new season.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Technically it ends the first week in March.

Ah, I see.

It feels like this series just ended in Japan, I wonder how long at any give time PUSA will be behind...

[Duke]

Ah, I see.

It feels like this series just ended in Japan, I wonder how long at any give time PUSA will be behind...
In Japan Battle Frontier ended in September, it is kind of recent.

[Shift]

Most likely the new dub will start in April, right when the games arrive and 6 months after both do so in Japan. In any case, it's more important for the dub to align with the games' actual American release than for it to try and catch up all the way with the Japanese version of the show. But they're doing pretty well in that regard, as well.

[CyberCubed]

I hope there is reruns after AG ends. We rushed through this season, I'd rather the next one not be rushed to so we can suffer through 8 months of reruns after D/P episode 5.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

I hope there is reruns after AG ends. We rushed through this season, I'd rather the next one not be rushed to so we can suffer through 8 months of reruns after D/P episode 5.

After a ninety minutes premier I can see it getting a slot on Friday's, maybe. Ever since PUSA took over they've been pushing Pokémon a lot, so I can see them trying to get a good slot.

[batman_cool]

I think Pokemon D/P won't be airing on CN until at least May. The english dub usually starts a month after the game is released. The final episodes of Battle Frontier are actually very interesting. Let hope the ending will not be too disappointed.

[sdp]

http://www.worldscreen.com/newscurrent.php?filename=poke020807.htm

[yoshirider13]

http://www.worldscreen.com/newscurrent.php?filename=poke020807.htmSo 4kids has a glimmer in pokemon still! :(
PUSA, please focus on keeping all original BGM then thinking about marketing..... :sad:

[yoshirider13]

So what was that vocal song that played in todays episode? and was that in the japanese version?

also lol at jessie

jessie: we've waited 9 seasons!

[Mr. Ralph]

wow it was cool to see the return of bulbasaur and squirtle and charizard! whoever did bulbasaur's voice did a pretty good job too!! much better than torkoal's. but what the heck how could charizard be taken out like that??? geez brandon sure means business!

[yoshirider13]

Props to PUSA for keeping more japanese msuic than usual. I haven't heard that song they played when ash was fighting team rocket in forever!

Also officer Jenny has the cooler season 1 type voice again! I hated the other one!

[CyberCubed]

I thought the animation got better in the second half. The first half looked screwy, but when the battle started everything seemed to get better.

- Liked seeing Ash's Kanto trio return and play off each other

- Ash and May's Squirtle meet, however briefly it was

- TR broke the 4th wall, ha. I also liked how Ash said how many years its been, I always like when they mention the passage of time in the show. Flashbacks were nice except Charizard Vs. Articuno had Ash in his Kanto clothes! WTF! He just had that battle at the beginning of BF against Noland!

- I loved how they played the AG theme music, all the old Charizard flashbacks and Ash's shouting to make it seem like Charizard would save the day yet again...and then it gets completely owned by Dusclops. :D That was great how they did the exact opposite everyone expected, and Charizard returns to not even get a single win. Man, Brandon is brutal.

- Bulbasaurs voice was good. A little off, but still good. But man, I LOVED the new Jenny. Remember how horrible she sounded at the end of Advanced Battle when her old VA quit 4kids? Oh god that was awful!

Thank god the PUSA Jenny sounds more like the original Jenny from seasons 1-7. I couldn't stand the horrible "manly voice" of Season 8 Jenny.

All in all good episode and nice beginning to the end of Advanced Generation.

[Ultra8]

It's nice seeing the Kanto Trio gathered together again. Nice breaking of the 4th wall and Charizard's unexpected early defeat. Next week should be good.
Ash & co. has been in the same spot and P-center for a couple of episodes now, that's got to be a 1st(contest/& chapionships aside).

[Freedom Fighter]

I guess the episode went by way too fast for me to catch the animation snafus that I heard it had.

It's fun to reminicse, though it seemed the gang had been apart for far too long. It was hard to tell if the four Pokémon had drifted apart or they had changed so much that their teamwork and synchronization had fallen off.

So Ash could become a Frontier Brain one day if he beats Brandon. And to think... years ago it was unimaginable to have Ash and brain in the same sentence and for it to mean something good.

What the heck? I know Brandon's good and all, but I knew there was something fishy about Charizard being first in the 4-on-4. Charizard's the big gun, the only Pokémon Ash has that's more powerful than Pikachu, the one Ash really counts on in a tight pinch... and Charizard falls to Dusclops?

As good as a battle it was, I just can't stand it! I'm really upset about that loss! I mean, how can we expect Ash to win with his heavy hitter the first to go?

*looks at the other 'important' Battle Frontier battles* Oh, yeah. Oh wait... that's a bad thing...

"Gathering the Gang of Four!": 3/5.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

I guess the episode went by way too fast for me to catch the animation snafus that I heard it had.

It's fun to reminicse, though it seemed the gang had been apart for far too long. It was hard to tell if the four Pokémon had drifted apart or they had changed so much that their teamwork and synchronization had fallen off.

So Ash could become a Frontier Brain one day if he beats Brandon. And to think... years ago it was unimaginable to have Ash and brain in the same sentence and for it to mean something good.

What the heck? I know Brandon's good and all, but I knew there was something fishy about Charizard being first in the 4-on-4. Charizard's the big gun, the only Pokémon Ash has that's more powerful than Pikachu, the one Ash really counts on in a tight pinch... and Charizard falls to Dusclops?

As good as a battle it was, I just can't stand it! I'm really upset about that loss! I mean, how can we expect Ash to win with his heavy hitter the first to go?

*looks at the other 'important' Battle Frontier battles* Oh, yeah. Oh wait... that's a bad thing...

"Gathering the Gang of Four!": 3/5.


Charizard is bigger then a gun, he's a bloody nuke!!!

[Mighty_Bojingo]

With charizard down, it looks rather hopeless. Squirtle and Bulbasaur pales in comparison to Charizard. If Charizard can't beat a simple dusclops, realistically speaking, there's no way a Bulbasaur and Squirtle can beat the Regitrio. And i dont think pikachu can handle the trio by himself. Charizard is the only one who is super effective against Regice and Registeel, and the only good line up is Bulbasaur or Squirtle against Regirock, other then that, the elemental matchups aint looking good for ash. Ash is gonna need a WHOLE lot more then just luck to win this fight.

[CyberCubed]

Bulbasaur is very, very strong and the main reason Charizard lost is because it was confused and Ash had it use Seismic Toss against a ghost type.

Pikachu is still one of his most powerful Pokemon as well.

[Mr. Ralph]

yeah but it still sucks to see charizard go out like that. he doesn't appear often enough:(

[CyberCubed]

Well, since Charizard had all the glory against Noland's Articuno at the start of Battle Frontier, I'm glad its not hogging all the glory this time.

Bulbasaur and Squirtle haven't had a battle all season yet, so I'm glad to see them get more spotlight than Charizard this time.

[Golden Darkness]

Final episode of AG has been revealed.

"Home is Where the Start Is"

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Final episode of AG has been revealed.

"Home is Where the Start Is"

Wow, a title that's only half a pun, never thought I'd see that.

[Mr. Ralph]

and once again pikachu saves the day. gee why am i not surprised

[yoshirider13]

DId anyone else think they used more original BGM then usual?

[Mr. Ralph]

DId anyone else think they used more original BGM then usual?

well it was the final battle of the battle frontier so i guess they wanted to make it special

[CyberCubed]

Ash's Bulbasaur is probably the strongest Bulbasaur on the planet. I thought Bulbasaur Vs. Dusclops was the best battle of the episode, there was some really good strategy there and we saw Bulbasaur use nearly all its moves.

Ninjask Vs. Squirtle was alright, hell, I'm glad Squirtle took down at least one Pokemon. Of course Squirtle never gets to be glorified like Bulbasaur and Charizard do. :rolleyes:

Bulbasaur Vs. Solrock was ok, nothing special. I liked how we saw Regirock and Registeel one last time as they blew TR away.

Pikachu vs. Regice had some problems, but it feels more like nitpicking than anything. Volt Tackle smashed it hard at least.

I like how quickly the departures were, oddly enough. Brandon awards Ash the last symbol, Ash finally conquers the Battle Frontier, and then Brandon and his assitant take off in the Pyramid.

Scott drives Oak and Joy back to where they need to do, along with Bulbasaur to the lab. Charizard flies back to the valley, and Squirtle returns with Jenny to the Squirtle squad.

I also really liked that last group profile shot for some reason, it signals the end of AG quite nicely.

[Megaman X]

Wow they just spoiled next weeks episode big time:sweat: with the next week on Pokemon

[sdp]

I have a question,

how behind has the anime been in the US compared to JP?

I remember it used to be almost a year in terms and I think I remember reading the anime now is closer very close?

Is that information right or wrong?

just wondering since i just got some new info on the TCG and it got me thinking on something.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

I have a question,

how behind has the anime been in the US compared to JP?

I remember it used to be almost a year in terms and I think I remember reading the anime now is closer very close?

Is that information right or wrong?

just wondering since i just got some new info on the TCG and it got me thinking on something.

Fifteen-twenty episodes behind.

[Duke]

Wow, a title that's only half a pun, never thought I'd see that.
Not only that, but it echoes the Japanese title pretty well, which isn't something that can be said for all these pun titles.

Anyway, I missed last week, so this episode is a double-newbie for me.

- Since when can Bulbasaur stand on its hind legs?

- Yay! Season 1 Squirtle returns!

- Wow, it seemed liked EVERYBODY was off-model during the first episode when Charizard, Squirtle, and Bulbasaur came back.

- How did Charizard not set the "bed" on fire with its tail?

- It was nice to see Leech Seed (which I don't believe we've seen since the Koga Gym Battle in Kanto) and Hydro Pump (which was only used in the Orange Leagues) again.

- Geez, Charizard knows Steel Wing now? Damn, they are going overboard with Charizard attacks. It knows Ember, Flamethrower, Scratch, Rage, Dragon Rage, Fly, Wing Attack, Dragonbreath, Overheat, and now Steel Wing. Pretty soon it'll know Outrage and Hyper Beam (though Hyper Beam on a Charizard wouldn't be all that bad since it's a Special attack now).

- I think I would've liked Pikachu vs. Regice better had Regice not used Rest at all. I mean, having Regice knocked out because of one Volt Tackle is pushing it. It also implies that Volt Tackle is more powerful than Thunder. I thought it was supposed to be around Thunderbolt's level?

- Speaking of Regice, I thought it had the Clear Body characteristic, which prevented status effects like Paralyzation.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Not only that, but it echoes the Japanese title pretty well, which isn't something that can be said for all these pun titles.

Anyway, I missed last week, so this episode is a double-newbie for me.

- Since when can Bulbasaur stand on its hind legs?

- Yay! Season 1 Squirtle returns!

- Wow, it seemed liked EVERYBODY was off-model during the first episode when Charizard, Squirtle, and Bulbasaur came back.

- How did Charizard not set the "bed" on fire with its tail?

- It was nice to see Leech Seed (which I don't believe we've seen since the Koga Gym Battle in Kanto) and Hydro Pump (which was only used in the Orange Leagues) again.

- Geez, Charizard knows Steel Wing now? Damn, they are going overboard with Charizard attacks. It knows Ember, Flamethrower, Scratch, Rage, Dragon Rage, Fly, Wing Attack, Dragonbreath, Overheat, and now Steel Wing. Pretty soon it'll know Outrage and Hyper Beam (though Hyper Beam on a Charizard wouldn't be all that bad since it's a Special attack now).

- I think I would've liked Pikachu vs. Regice better had Regice not used Rest at all. I mean, having Regice knocked out because of one Volt Tackle is pushing it. It also implies that Volt Tackle is more powerful than Thunder. I thought it was supposed to be around Thunderbolt's level?

- Speaking of Regice, I thought it had the Clear Body characteristic, which prevented status effects like Paralyzation.

Leech Seed was used during the grass field during the Kantô Drictrict tournament.

I figured Volt Tackle was the new thing seeing as how it seems to have a dramatic theme song (like when it was first used).

[Freedom Fighter]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that yes, the writers did again pull one of those 'impossibilities' by having Pikachu beat Regice with Volt Tackle just after Regice used Rest. Then again, for some reason I remember from the games that Rest doesn't complete restore all HP if, at the time of usage, the Pokémon's at less than 50% of its max HP. In which case, only 50% of the max HP would be restored with that one Rest. Or that's the way I remember it, anyway.

As for the rest of the battle, nice decision to use Hydro Pump to clean Squirtle's eyes, the double Solar Beam KO, and most of the rest of the Pikachu-Regice duel.

And so, Ash has passed the Battle Frontier! Now for the two-episode epilogue...

"Pace - The Final Frontier!": 3.5/5.

[Duke]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that yes, the writers did again pull one of those 'impossibilities' by having Pikachu beat Regice with Volt Tackle just after Regice used Rest. Then again, for some reason I remember from the games that Rest doesn't complete restore all HP if, at the time of usage, the Pokémon's at less than 50% of its max HP. In which case, only 50% of the max HP would be restored with that one Rest. Or that's the way I remember it, anyway.
Umm, you're thinking of the wrong move.

Unless Rest's effects have changed in Diamond/Pearl, it completely heals all 100% of a Pokémon's health, cures any status afflictions, and puts them to sleep for 2 turns (provided they're not holding a Berry that wakes them up right away).

Recover can only heal 50%, as can Morning Sun, although Morning Sun can heal 100% if Sunny Day is out and only 25% during Rain Dance.

[Freedom Fighter]

Yeah, that's what I thought. I probably could've looked it up, but eh...

[YoshiAngemon]

I can easily predict that they'll go into reruns until April, when Pokémon Diamond and Pearl premieres on Cartoon Network.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Would rather them show the first eppy as a intro then go into reruns for half a year.

[sdp]

hahaha, didn't know where to post this but I made it on somethingawful.com! lol

there was a topic about what essentially was Pokemon Beastiality and decided to make a few posts with inuendo on it, and yup I made it in their article. Ironic how such a sarcastic community could not read the sarcasm on my posts, but thats a good thing as I think its funny.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/furry-anime-pokemon.php?page=4 (taken from this thread http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=122904)

I also had a quote of TZ resident CyberCubed on my sig that I found very funny, good to know it made it there. (very surprised to see he didn't make it ;):p)

[yoshirider13]

Is there a chance that a pokemon movie will be aired on weekdays in march since they are airing movies every night all month? I hope they either show 1-3 or premiere the lucario movie.

[Duke]

A couple of notes for next month:

- Movie 9 premieres March 23rd at 7PM, then repeats 1.5 hours later.
- Right now it looks like CN will continue to air the final 5 episodes of Season 9 as normal, but since the grids don't show a title change nor do they show episode titles, this is obviously subject to change.

[Mr. Ralph]

sweet movie 9!!!

[Hyper Shadow X]

If it's true about the final 5 eppy airing then sweet.

[yoshirider13]

A couple of notes for next month:

- Movie 9 premieres March 23rd at 7PM, then repeats 1.5 hours later.
- Right now it looks like CN will continue to air the final 5 episodes of Season 9 as normal, but since the grids don't show a title change nor do they show episode titles, this is obviously subject to change.Wow you answered my qurestion 1 minute after I posted it XDXD

[Dogasu]

So I wonder why they're skipping over the Lucario movie...

[Duke]

So I wonder why they're skipping over the Lucario movie...
Good question. One would think airing the premiere of a Pokémon movie would get better ratings than the umpteenth rerun of a Scooby-Doo movie.

[Hyper Shadow X]

They seem to be doing what the did with the 5th movie not airing for a while.

[Duke]

Oh, and another quick note: That Amazon exclusive 3-disc set? It's just the normal Movie 9 set with a copy of Pokémon Advanced Battle Vol. 1 packed in.

For those interested, Movie 9's second disc seems to be for "Pikachu's Island Adventure." It's probably either a made-for-USA special (like Mastermind & Mystery Dungeon), or the various Pikachu shorts that appear during the ANA Festival.

[Megaman X]

Oh, and another quick note: That Amazon exclusive 3-disc set? It's just the normal Movie 9 set with a copy of Pokémon Advanced Battle Vol. 1 packed in.

For those interested, Movie 9's second disc seems to be for "Pikachu's Island Adventure." It's probably either a made-for-USA special (like Mastermind & Mystery Dungeon), or the various Pikachu shorts that appear during the ANA Festival.

Pikachu island adventure is just one of those pikachu shorts that air in almost every movie. Nothing special

[batman_cool]

Ahhh...the power of Pokemon! Ever since Duke disclosed the premiere date for Movie 9, this forum (CN) has become very active getting more traffic than usual.

[YoshiAngemon]

Pikachu island adventure is just one of those pikachu shorts that air in almost every movie. Nothing special
Nothing special, huh? Maybe that's why they got shafted off the DVD releases, and are probably due in for a second season of Chronicles. Then again, it probably won't happen.

[Duke]

Pikachu island adventure is just one of those pikachu shorts that air in almost every movie. Nothing special
Ah, but is it one made for the US, or a special combobulation (yes, I know that's not a real word) of the ANA Festival shorts?

Granted, the only ANA short I saw occured before Mime Jr. & Bonsly joined the cast and had the Pokémon visit an abadoned mansion occupied by pretty much every single Ghost-type (along with Cubone and Marowak). It was pretty funny, but no "Gotta Dance."

[Mr. Ralph]

holy cow that was an awesome episode!! blaziken and sceptile were both evenly matched throughout the whole thing and then suddenly they both do they're overgrow/blaze thing and kicked it up a notch! then with a final overheat and solar beam the two pokemon are shrouded in smoke, ending the episode in a cliffhanger!!! in the end there can only be one winner! who will it be?!?!?!?

[Duke]

A couple comments I forgot to make about last week:

- Zoppi's Ninjask is dorky as hell.

- Was it just me, or did the Pikachu Ice Pinball shot look exceptionally painful?

Anyway, this week:

- Y'know, there have been a lot of physics-defying feats in this show, but the Electric Ring Pinball has got to be up there on the "WTF Was That?" list. You'd think the writers would've found some way to incorporate Volt Tackle in the Appeal.

- Speaking of the Appeal, May's Shadow Ball Fireworks Appeal HAD to have broken some kind of fire hazard laws there. Then again, her dad set off real fireworks inside his greenhouse, so I guess it runs in the bloodline.

- I get that the staff was trying to save money for Diamond & Pearl, but still, that was some pretty bad animation during the Blaziken/Sceptile battle.

[PC!]

So, who couldn't tell the score through the smoke?

Movie 9 premieres March 23rd at 7PM, then repeats 1.5 hours later.

Wow, I don't even remember movie 9's American release being announced...have I been living under a rock?

[Duke]

Wow, I don't even remember movie 9's American release being announced...have I been living under a rock?
It kind of flew under the radar thanks to all the Diamond & Pearl discussion.

[CyberCubed]

Ah, we get to see that Eevee of May's. Wait, May had an Eevee? Oh yes, its that Eevee who was only in like two battles during its entire run. Whoa, wait, May had an Eevee? Oh yeah, now I remember, it probably had more screentime as an egg than it did as a Pokemon.

Its fireworks appeal was nice, but Eevee *really* should have been given to May at the start of BF, because it was such wasted potential it wasn't funny. I bet a few years from now people will forget May had an Eevee altogether, because we barely ever saw the damn thing. It was defintiely the most underused of all of May's Pokemon, and I don't know why they hyped it up as something special but never did anything with it.

As for the episode, it was pretty good. Its nice to see May with Blaziken, something most of us never expected May to have when she first started with that clumsy little Torchic. It makes looking at how much they've grown over the course of Hoenn/Battle Frontier to look really well done.

Ash and May have their final battle together with their fully evolved Hoenn starters, a nice throwback to the very beginning of Hoenn, which was around 4 years ago. (Hard to imagine how fast it went by!)

The animation could have been a bit better but it was a decent last hurrah for May. Not the best battle ever, or what it could have been, but since they were gearing up for D/P it is to be expected.

Its great to see that May can put up a fight against Ash nowadays, something she couldn't do back in Hoenn.

[Duke]

It was defintiely the most underused of all of May's Pokemon, and I don't know why they hyped it up as something special but never did anything with it.
It's hyped up because Eevee gets two new evolutions in Diamond/Pearl.

[CyberCubed]

It's hyped up because Eevee gets two new evolutions in Diamond/Pearl.

Which is why May either should have been in D/P or it should have evolved in mid-BF as a preview of sorts to the next saga.

I don't think the writers paced this saga as well as they could of, there are a lot of signs that the release date of D/P was sprung upon them as a surprise. Eevee definitely deserved more screentime than it got.

[Captain Zechs]

A nice episode. But I feel that Ash should definately be the winner, he just deserves it though. However...I'm just gonna say how LAME that one pokemon he used was (Sorry, don't know names that well) the grass type. Blazeken(sp?) Looked and had much cooler attacks.

Its a shame that Eevee got shafted, probably one of my Pokemon of all time, except a Vulpix...which I wish May would catch and have it evolve into a Ninetail...that'd be really cool. But yeah. (As you can tell I dont watch Pokemon to often)

[bigddan11]

It should be no surprise that Pikachu won and allowed Ash to beat all the Frontier masters. Charizard defintley deserved more screen time than he got though in that final battle.

Ash and May facing off with each other in one final contest is a cool idea, and it should be no surprise that they are the final two, but that final bttle between Sceptile and Blaziken is one that should be remembered as one of the greatest matches, if for no other reason than having them end in a draw.

[Mr. Ralph]

Ash and May facing off with each other in one final contest is a cool idea, and it should be no surprise that they are the final two, but that final bttle between Sceptile and Blaziken is one that should be remembered as one of the greatest matches, if for no other reason than having them end in a draw.

what

[yoshirider13]

OHHHH The promo tricked me!!!!!! They said it was a double feature so i thought they meant 2 new pokemon! But no, they meant 1 new pokemon and 1 new ben 10 -_-

PS, from the promo, Tracey sounds like his 4kids voice.

[Christopher Soul]

Wait isn't it the last episode of Battle Frontier?
Well shouldn't spoil the big surprise guest in the episode :D

[Duke]

A nice episode. But I feel that Ash should definately be the winner, he just deserves it though. However...I'm just gonna say how LAME that one pokemon he used was (Sorry, don't know names that well) the grass type. Blazeken(sp?) Looked and had much cooler attacks.
Sceptile is the strongest Pokémon on Ash's team next to Pikachu. Even though his Corphish is a Water-type, I really doubt it'd be able to beat Blaziken.

It should be no surprise that Pikachu won and allowed Ash to beat all the Frontier masters. Charizard defintley deserved more screen time than he got though in that final battle.
I consider this a trade-off for having Charizard hog the spotlight during the 8th Johto Gym Battle, the Johto Championship, and the first Frontier Brain battle. Not to mention Movie 3.

PS, from the promo, Tracey sounds like his 4kids voice.

Wait isn't it the last episode of Battle Frontier?
Well shouldn't spoil the big surprise guest in the episode :D
Yea, it's the last episode. And it was spoiled somewhat thanks to Electabuzz's evolution being shown.

[Christopher Soul]

I have a big question, on the schedule it show D/P episode title though nothing has been announced. So what IS D/P premiering after BF ends?

[YoshiAngemon]

I think you mean "WHEN is D/P premiering after Battle Frontier?" As for Diamond & Pearl, maybe Pokemon.com might announce some things pertaining to the anime, like Hikari's english name (which should just be Kari!), New trainers and gyms, and other things!

[Christopher Soul]

I think you mean "WHEN is D/P premiering after Battle Frontier?" As for Diamond & Pearl, maybe Pokemon.com might announce some things pertaining to the anime, like Hikari's english name (which should just be Kari!), New trainers and gyms, and other things!
If anything? Yeah, but you know.. they might leave it Hikari, I mean they left Futaba Town.

EDIT: Wait no they didn't. Futaba Town is called Twinleaf Town in the US version of D/P.

[Shift]

I don't suppose anyone here has gone to the Pokemon panel today, have they?

[Duke]

If anything? Yeah, but you know.. they might leave it Hikari, I mean they left Futaba Town.

EDIT: Wait no they didn't. Futaba Town is called Twinleaf Town in the US version of D/P.
Cartoon Network didn't have any episode titles in place (just "Pokémon Battle Frontier Ep#449" and stuff like that), so I used the Japanese titles as placeholders, hence why it says "(Japanese title)" after the title name.

[Freedom Fighter]

So the inevitable is about to happen. May & Max are ready to head home, and apparently, so is Brock. But first... there's a random Pokémon Contest being held here in Terracotta Town! How about one more shining salute for the Coordinator lovers out there?

It should be no surprise that Ash gets out of the preliminaries in his very first contest. This is Ash and Pikachu, after all. But you can't help but feel the rest of the competition got shafted by only the Top Two getting past the preliminaries, with the two finalists being a quarterfinalist in the Hoenn League and a semifinalist in the Kanto Grand Festival, respectively. I can imagine one disgruntled competitor murmuring, 'Why can't those two show-offs find their own Contest to win! Stop mocking us little guys!"

Oh, and I kinda yelled 'What?' a few times when Combusken evolved into Blaziken. For some, stupifying reason, I thought Combusken was the high-level form of its evolution chain.

Oh again... let's see, the first two times Ash battled a Blaziken, he lost. Hmmm...

Ash was being mighty aggressive in the beginning, so much so that he was losing points for not actually getting any of Sceptile's attacks to hit Blaziken. But even after Sceptile's accuracy improved, I noticed May and Blaziken were being way too passive/defensive. Which almost resulted in one of those annoying comebacks that both Ash and May have done in recent memory.

We end on a cliffhanger... not knowing who won (hey, if Nurse Joy is responsible for taking off points, wouldn't she know the answer?). (The promo for Battle Frontier's finale kinda spoils it, though it was still too close to definitively call, at least by my eyesight. And while I'm on the promo... oh God, what is with Tracey's voice?) So we're left with an interesting dilemma... if Ash wins, he comes off looking like a jerk by bullying his way to a win over May's delicate combination moves - if May wins, she comes off as if she was expected to win, just as she was when she beat Brock in an earlier Kanto contest.

I'm still hanging on the edge of my seat to find out who won, though.

"Once More with Reeling!": 4/5.

[Duke]

But you can't help but feel the rest of the competition got shafted by only the Top Two getting past the preliminaries, with the two finalists being a quarterfinalist in the Hoenn League and a semifinalist in the Kanto Grand Festival, respectively. I can imagine one disgruntled competitor murmuring, 'Why can't those two show-offs find their own Contest to win! Stop mocking us little guys!"
Well, in all fairness: Most of the other Coordinators there really sucked.

Oh, and I kinda yelled 'What?' a few times when Combusken evolved into Blaziken. For some, stupifying reason, I thought Combusken was the high-level form of its evolution chain.
Eh? But we've seen Blaziken a couple times already...o.O And since when do the Starters have a 2-stage Evolutionary Chain?

[CyberCubed]

Funnily enough, this was Blaziken's first episode in the entire AG series.

We saw Harrison's Blaziken in the Johto league and one appeared in the 7th movie, but we've never seen an actual Blaziken in the regular series of AG until now...the second to last episode. Who would have thunk it'd be May's Blaziken? I remember thinking Torchic would never evolve back when Hoenn first started, I'm glad the writers proved me wrong.

I think its great that they started off like this at the beginning of AG:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/MayHaruka/4534a7fe.jpg

To this in middle AG:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/MayHaruka/1151591140665.gif

And become this by the end of AG:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/MayHaruka/ag190huggingblaziken.jpg

Heehee, May's found a different way to hug her starter Pokemon for each of its evolutions. :D I'm glad they saved Blaziken for the very end though, it was a nice last hurrah for her character.

[Shift]

I need to ask: did ANYONE here go to the Comic-Con panel yesterday?

[Freedom Fighter]

Well, in all fairness: Most of the other Coordinators there really sucked.Point taken. That was the weakest preliminary round that I can remember in any of the Contests.

Eh? But we've seen Blaziken a couple times already...o.O And since when do the Starters have a 2-stage Evolutionary Chain?Bout of insanity and forgetfulness. And being way too used to Combusken. Never thought I'd still be paying for skipping the games' 3rd generation.

And, on Cybercubed's pictures... I swear for a minute there May was licking Combusken. :sweat:

[Captain Zechs]

Sceptile is the strongest Pokémon on Ash's team next to Pikachu. Even though his Corphish is a Water-type, I really doubt it'd be able to beat Blaziken.

So? Overall he is a pretty lame Pokemon (IMO) his attacks are really...boring, and he looks like a joke. I really think Blaziken owns him, in looks and in power. Not to mention Fire-Type>Grass Type. But whatever.

Oh and On Evee's new forms...

Will they be showing up a lot in the next season? And what are they (I got that one was grass but not sure about the other...ice?)

[Dogasu]

Oh and On Evee's new forms...

Will they be showing up a lot in the next season? And what are they (I got that one was grass but not sure about the other...ice?)

No clue. They're only 20 episodes into Diamond & Pearl (the first five of which are still part of Season 9), so it's far too early to tell at this point.

[Duke]

So? Overall he is a pretty lame Pokemon (IMO) his attacks are really...boring, and he looks like a joke. I really think Blaziken owns him, in looks and in power. Not to mention Fire-Type>Grass Type. But whatever.
Treeko and its evolutions have been battling a lot more than Torchic and its evolutions (not to mention that Treeko was stronger right from the getgo), so it's only natural that Sceptile should have enough strength to overcome the type disadvantage.

Oh, and the Japanese names for Eevee's new forms are Leafia and Glacia (which will obviously change in the English version in order to continue the "-eon" theme).

Leafia can learn most of the more popular Grass-type attacks, such as Razor Leaf, Grasswhistle, Magical Leaf, Synthesis, Sunny Day, and Leaf Blade on its own. It also learns Treasure (see below). The only D/P-exclusive moves it can learn are a new TM (#53) called Energy Ball, which is essentially a Grass-type Shadow Ball; TM #81, which is Scissor Cross, a Bug-type move with 80 base power; TM #83, Nature Blessing, which is described below; and TM 86, Grass Rope, a Grass-type attack that varies in power depending on the opposing Pokémon's weight (the heavier, the stronger).

Glacia knows a few D/P-exclusive attacks such as Icy Pebble (Ice-type Quick Attack), Ice Fang (Ice-type Poison Fang), and Treasure (a 130-power move that's the ultimate last resort) along with the typical Ice-type moves. It can also use Snow Slide, which doubles in damage if Glacia is damaged before the move is used; Entice, which reduces a Pokémon of the opposite gender's Special Attack by 2 levels; and Nature Blessing, whose power and type depends on the Berry held via TM.

[Master Moltar]

Looks like CN isn't starting D/P on March 10th. It's now listed that they're airing the first episode of Season 9 in the 9:30 slot.

[Hyper Shadow X]

We could always get it next month in time for the game but i doubt it.

[RomanMack]

Looks like CN isn't starting D/P on March 10th. It's now listed that they're airing the first episode of Season 9 in the 9:30 slot.And thus starts the reruns. :sweat:

Though the new games are coming April so I soppose it'll be 2-3 month wait at the most for new episodes.

[Megaman X]

And thus starts the reruns. :sweat:

Though the new games are coming April so I soppose it'll be 2-3 month wait at the most for new episodes.

Not the re runs!*hides in terror* re runs are so evil:crying: there so..so... OLD:sweat:

[yoshirider13]

Not the re runs!*hides in terror* re runs are so evil:crying: there so..so... OLD:sweat:Atleast I can sleep in longer for a couple months :sweat:

[yoshirider13]

Well that goodbye felt rushed :(

[sdp]

Finally forced myself to wake up, here is what i wrote on my "The Pokeblog (thepokeball.blogspot.com)" about it:
(http://forums.toonzone.net/www.thepokeball.blogspot.com) Goodbye M&M (http://thepokeball.blogspot.com/2007/03/goodbye-m.html)

I had been wanting to catch pokemon(anime) but I never got arround to wake up, so early for it. Even though I went to bed at 3 after a TMNT "party" I finally woke up today, I got to catch the last 10 minutes of last weeks new episode re-run and the new episode.
I got to see May's Blaziken evole into Torchic and battle Ash's Grovyle, which ends with you not knowing who is going to win only to find out later its a tie and they break the medal in half (similar to Ash/Gary's half Pokeball IMO). Then the new episode is full of twists, May decides to go to Johto alone and Max will stay in Hoenn until he is old enough to be a trainer and battle Ash. No long departure made but it still feels sad as this marks the end of "Advance Generation". Ash and Brock part ways for the 100th time, and Ash gets to meet Gary's (now wearing his FireRed/LeafGreen attire) new Elikible from Sinnoh. Ash gets home and gets another Party, he brags about his Battle Frontier victory and decides to go to the next region aka the usual but it still feels good as this marks the beggining of Diamond & Pearl, even the "To Be Continued" text hypes it up. If i didn't have such a bad short term memory I'd remember what it said. Pretty Epic, trust me.

Overall the episodes were pretty fun, the new voices now feel more at home and it was nice seeing the end of the AG. We are going to get re-runs now, which I will use catch up on all the Battle Frontier episodes I missed and hopefully we get new episodes in time for the new games.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ms/thumb/3/3a/Hoenn-group_ash_may_brock_max.jpg/180px-Hoenn-group_ash_may_brock_max.jpg
Good bye Advance Generation Gang!Atleast I can sleep in longer for a couple months :sweat:
and for me it means sleep less to catch up ;)

[CyberCubed]

Well, after 191 episodes and 4 Movies, spanning the Hoenn and Battle Frontier saga, the AG series finally comes to an end.

Time to say goodbye to this cast forever:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/MayHaruka/1158054159702.jpg

Well, that's it. Its hard to imagine but that's the end of May for the forseeable future. She lasted from 2003-2007, was voiced by Veronica Taylor for Hoenn and Michelle Knotz for Battle Frontier.

I would have liked to see a flashback to her accomplishments over AG in the last ep, but I thought it was a nice (albeit short) ending. Max got good focus in the ending as well.

Nice to see Gary make his triumphant return, and Ash loses...again! Delia's voice was great, but Tracey's was just ok. We won't be seeing Tracey again for a long time so his new voice doesn't really matter.

Goodbye Pokemon: Advanced, hello Pokemon Diamond/Pearl!

[Game Freak 4]

Out with the Hoenn Region. In with... the SHINNO REGION.

(Does the 10th season have to be name after the DS games? They could do better than that.)

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Out with the Hoenn Region. In with... the SHINNO REGIOON.

(Does the 10th season have to be name after the DS games? They could do better than that.)

Here's hoping they name the series something more catchy.

[yoshirider13]

Here's hoping they name the series something more catchy.Well they directly translated Pokemon Battle frontier. So it might still be pokemon diamond and pearl...

PS, does anyone like my new avatar? :D

[Duke]

I got to see May's Blaziken evole into Torchic and battle Ash's Grovyle,
Actually, that should read "I got to see May's Combusken evolve into a Blaziken and battle Ash's Sceptile.

Oh, and the new text was "Next Time... A New Beginning!"
Well they directly translated Pokemon Battle frontier. So it might still be pokemon diamond and pearl...
Actually, the Battle Frontier saga was called Advanced Generation in Japan.

Considering that Diamond & Pearl was the name used for the new toy lines at the Toy Fair, that'll probably be the name for the new series.

As for this episode, it really felt like the writers didn't want May to have a big goodbye in order to have her appear in her own spinoff series (Probably to take up the rerun slot on Pokémon Sunday), but somebody higher up nixed the idea after the episode had already been completed.

[Mr. Ralph]

that is one cool avatar, dude!!

this episode was sad:(may and max are gone and so is brock (my favorite character) and ash is once again leaving all his pokemon at professor oak's never to be seen again for a couple hundred episodes. grr why does he do that!!:mad: well let's hope he catches some cool pokemon in sinnoh!

[CyberCubed]

As for this episode, it really felt like the writers didn't want May to have a big goodbye in order to have her appear in her own spinoff series (Probably to take up the rerun slot on Pokémon Sunday), but somebody higher up nixed the idea after the episode had already been completed.

I seriously doubt that. If they had already worked on scripts and or completed animation for a few May specials, they would have shown whatever handful they completed. Why hold back animation if its done? Its not like it'd distract from anything else, as seen with the Hoso's in AG.

May's goodbye was rather lowkey though, so who knows what will happen in the coming months. Japan is up to D/P 21 so far and no mention of May, so we'll see.

[Duke]

I seriously doubt that. If they had already worked on scripts and or completed animation for a few May specials, they would have shown whatever handful they completed. Why hold back animation if its done? Its not like it'd distract from anything else, as seen with the Hoso's in AG.
I meant after this episode (the last AG episode) had been completed, not after any May-specific stuff was finished.

[Freedom Fighter]

Okay, so Ash doesn't win (therefore not showing May up after all this time), and May doesn't win (accepting the status quo / great way to go out as she's leaving)... they both win? I admit, I feel torn about the contest ending. I mean, that's a cheap way to get out of deciding a de-facto favorite, but at the same time, that means the writers weren't trying to favor one over the other.

And what does it take for a major character to get honored on their goodbye these days? May & Max don't even get a 'memorable moments' montage? Okay, debatably, Max doesn't deserve one. But May revitalized the series, for God's sake! That isn't worth anything?

And then Gary suddenly shows up out of the blue and 'casually' invites Ash to follow him to Sinnoh? I wish there was more explanation on why he's abandoned his research career (as seen in 'Chronicles') and gone back to Pokémon training. Still... I like how they have Gary's Electavire kick Pikachu's butt so Ash has a reason to want to follow him... an even tougher challenge in Sinnoh.

New VAs: Gary - OK, but forgettable; Ash's mom - Little hard on the ears, but could be worse; Tracey - Pretty much the same as Ash's mom.

The writers definitely rushed this finale, as May & Max's departure and Gary's sudden reappearance could've been fleshed out more. Pacing too fast (as opposed to slow) was the problem with Battle Frontier way too often. I hope the writers straighten things out in the Diamond/Pearl series.

Speaking of which... anyone think CN/PUSA will decide to not premiere the first episode of D/P alone, but rather with the second and even the third (since the three premiered together in Japan)?

"Home is Where the Start is!": 3.5/5.

[yoshirider13]

Okay, so Ash doesn't win (therefore not showing May up after all this time), and May doesn't win (accepting the status quo / great way to go out as she's leaving)... they both win? I admit, I feel torn about the contest ending. I mean, that's a cheap way to get out of deciding a de-facto favorite, but at the same time, that means the writers weren't trying to favor one over the other.

And what does it take for a major character to get honored on their goodbye these days? May & Max don't even get a 'memorable moments' montage? Okay, debatably, Max doesn't deserve one. But May revitalized the series, for God's sake! That isn't worth anything?

And then Gary suddenly shows up out of the blue and 'casually' invites Ash to follow him to Sinnoh? I wish there was more explanation on why he's abandoned his research career (as seen in 'Chronicles') and gone back to Pokémon training. Still... I like how they have Gary's Electavire kick Pikachu's butt so Ash has a reason to want to follow him... an even tougher challenge in Sinnoh.

New VAs: Gary - OK, but forgettable; Ash's mom - Little hard on the ears, but could be worse; Tracey - Pretty much the same as Ash's mom.

The writers definitely rushed this finale, as May & Max's departure and Gary's sudden reappearance could've been fleshed out more. Pacing too fast (as opposed to slow) was the problem with Battle Frontier way too often. I hope the writers straighten things out in the Diamond/Pearl series.

Speaking of which... anyone think CN/PUSA will decide to not premiere the first episode of D/P alone, but rather with the second and even the third (since the three premiered together in Japan)?

"Home is Where the Start is!": 3.5/5.Gary's VA isn't new

[CyberCubed]

Okay, so Ash doesn't win (therefore not showing May up after all this time), and May doesn't win (accepting the status quo / great way to go out as she's leaving)... they both win? I admit, I feel torn about the contest ending. I mean, that's a cheap way to get out of deciding a de-facto favorite, but at the same time, that means the writers weren't trying to favor one over the other.

I just saw it as showing how much May has grown since her introduction of the series. At the start of AG May could barely battle and couldn't hold her own against Ash, but now she was able to tie against one of his strongest Pokemon, (Sceptile).

I much like the way they did it, it shows that May has reached up to Ash's level, (although its obvious he's still stronger than her overall, but in terms of battling), compared to how she started out. Also seeing that clumsy Torchic who ran into rocks at the start of Hoenn end up as a powerful Blaziken was emotionally satisfying.

And what does it take for a major character to get honored on their goodbye these days? May & Max don't even get a 'memorable moments' montage? Okay, debatably, Max doesn't deserve one. But May revitalized the series, for God's sake! That isn't worth anything?

Yeah, some assume May's departure was low-key because we'll be seeing her adventures in Johto in some form, but so far in Japan May hasn't been seen since D/P started, so its up in the air.

And then Gary suddenly shows up out of the blue and 'casually' invites Ash to follow him to Sinnoh? I wish there was more explanation on why he's abandoned his research career (as seen in 'Chronicles') and gone back to Pokémon training.

We did see Gary in "The Unbeatable lightness of seeing" on the postcard, which was a mini-preview to this. Also, I don't think he's abandoned his training, he was wearing a lab coat after all. He didn't say he was going for badges or anything, just that he was headed toward Sinnoh.

Pacing too fast (as opposed to slow) was the problem with Battle Frontier way too often. I hope the writers straighten things out in the Diamond/Pearl series.

The reason Battle Frontier seemed rushed, (aside from Cartoon Network rushing through the season), was that the writers only had 1 year to wrap everything up before the Diamond/Pearl games came out.

They had to include 7 Brain battles, (including rematches against Anabel and Brandon), 6 Contests for May in addition to the Grand Festival, as well as two "later" Contest with Drew and then Ash to wrap her story up, as well as tie up AG in general.

Considering they were working on a tight timeframe, its pretty admirable that they were able to get done with what they were doing. Diamond/Pearl will probably be as long as Hoenn was, because the writers have lots of spare time till the next games and thus can flesh out the region more. I expect it to last about three seasons like Hoenn and Johto did.

[RomanMack]

Actually, wait. People always say that Johto was alot longer than Hoenn... Yet they were both spread 3 seasons. And each season of Pokemon is like 52 episodes, correct?

So, shouldn't they be about the same, episode-number wise?

[yoshirider13]

Actually, wait. People always say that Johto was alot longer than Hoenn... Yet they were both spread 3 seasons. And each season of Pokemon is like 52 episodes, correct?

So, shouldn't they be about the same, episode-number wise?Johto seemed longer because the fillers sucked really badly. Plus, it was longer. the episodes after the episode "Address unknown" are considered to be part of pokemon advanced. Pokemon advance battle went into the battle frontier saga so advance battle wasn't a full 52 episode Hoenn saga.

[CyberCubed]

Actually, wait. People always say that Johto was alot longer than Hoenn... Yet they were both spread 3 seasons. And each season of Pokemon is like 52 episodes, correct?

So, shouldn't they be about the same, episode-number wise?

Johto was 157 episodes long, Hoenn was 131 episodes long. Don't forget that the last episodes of Advanced Battle actually start the Battle Frontier arc in Japan, it just stayed with the old title because 4kids didn't bother changing it.

Plus Hoenn had the Contest arc, which helped get rid of all the needless filler and give good character centric episodes to May.

[Duke]

I hope the writers straighten things out in the Diamond/Pearl series.
The whole reason Battle Frontier was rushed was BECAUSE of Diamond & Pearl.

From the way things panned out, it seemed like the launch date of Diamond & Pearl changed mid-way through the saga. Like it was supposed to premiere in Spring, then it got bumped to late Fall/early Winter, then finally to early Fall.

[sdp]

kind of off topic but the Borders in my city have a pokemon stand with Pokemon books, it must be their very old stock since they have stuff from 1999 and the Pokemon fad era. I pokeblogged (http://thepokeball.blogspot.com/) about it and those haven't been sold for years so someone might be interested. I always liked those Pokemon Tales books for little kids, they had cute stories. They seemed to have their original price since nothing indicaed "sale", but if they ring them up they might be.

Actually, that should read "I got to see May's Combusken evolve into a Blaziken and battle Ash's Sceptile.

Oh, and the new text was "Next Time... A New Beginning!"



thanks for the text!

I did realize my mistake before posting it but thought it'd be neat to leave it in to see if anyone noticed(or actually read it ;)

on another note, I also think the new series will also be called "diamond and pearl" in the US, I think its cool though it'll get irrelevant once a third game comes or if they do a re-make of g/s or spin off after Sinoh, at least for Advance Generation you knew it was from the GBA was fair game ;) but i guess i'll let them worry about it later and i'll enjoy the hype.

[CyberCubed]

They'll probably change the title every season in the U.S. though. Japan kept Advanced Generation throughout the entire thing, but the dub went through Advanced, Advanced Challenge, Advanced Battle and Battle Frontier.

I imagine "Diamond/Pearl" will just be the title for the first 52 eps of Sinnoh in the dub, and then PUSA will change the title. As for the Japanese show, I don't think it matters at this point.

[Game Freak 4]

I just realized something. How could Ash get no data from Electrivire, yet he and May got data from past Shinno Region Pokemon they met?

[Jacob T. Paschal]

I just realized something. How could Ash get no data from Electrivire, yet he and May got data from past Shinno Region Pokemon they met?

Same reason the show is plagued with filler and Ash actually acted like he'd never seen a Blazekin before meeting May's.


POOR WRITING!!!

[Duke]

I just realized something. How could Ash get no data from Electrivire, yet he and May got data from past Shinno Region Pokemon they met?
The Battle Frontier Pokédexes May & Ash recieved have info on certain Sinnoh creatures (like Chatot, Munchlax, Mime Jr., and Bonsly), but not others. Kind of like how Ash's Kanto Pokédex was upgraded to include information on Togepi and Marril.
Same reason the show is plagued with filler and Ash actually acted like he'd never seen a Blazekin before meeting May's.


POOR WRITING!!!
Eh? What are you talking about? Ash always stands in awe whenever he sees a powerful Pokémon that he hasn't seen in a while. After all, it's been about a year since his battle with Harrison. Not to mention it's newly evolved, which always pumps up Ash.

[Freedom Fighter]

Gary's VA isn't newA lot of reviews I've read on other sites and message boards have said the exact same thing. And that's weird, because I know Gary's voice well enough and what he sounded like in this episode didn't strike me as familiar. And thing is, it should, given I'm in the midst of watching the Season 1 box set, in which Gary makes several appearances.

So, I'm stumped. I'll try to catch the encore on Thursday afternoon to listen again, but I'm really befuddled right now.

The reason Battle Frontier seemed rushed, (aside from Cartoon Network rushing through the season), was that the writers only had 1 year to wrap everything up before the Diamond/Pearl games came out.

They had to include 7 Brain battles, (including rematches against Anabel and Brandon), 6 Contests for May in addition to the Grand Festival, as well as two "later" Contest with Drew and then Ash to wrap her story up, as well as tie up AG in general.

Considering they were working on a tight timeframe, its pretty admirable that they were able to get done with what they were doing. Diamond/Pearl will probably be as long as Hoenn was, because the writers have lots of spare time till the next games and thus can flesh out the region more. I expect it to last about three seasons like Hoenn and Johto did.I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't referring to the pace from episode-to-episode, I was talking about within many of the 'main' episodes like the Frontier Brain battles and the Contests... which I have continually complained of being too one-sided and full of way, way too many unbelievable comeback victories. For Ash and the Brain Battles, it was too much of 'ah, now I get his/her strategy - with one attack, I'll win!' For May and the Contests, she'd always take many, many hits, and then strike back with one or two good hits, and suddenly the score's even/she's ahead?

I wouldn't mind if it was, say, one incredible come-from-behind for Ash and May apiece. But for nearly half of the Frontier Brain/Contests combined? Surely, every battle doesn't have to be neck-and-neck the whole way through... but enough with these moments of 'oh, there's only three minutes left in the episode, so it's time for Ash/May to stop taking punishment and win right now so this doesn't carry over into next week.'

I don't read up on the Japanese version, so I really hope they aren't doing that in D/P. Because I shouldn't have to be going into what are arguably the best episodes of the series, the gym battles and Contests, thinking there's a 50-50 chance the final match will end with Ash or the new girl making a comeback in which they should have no business succeeding in.

[Duke]

A lot of reviews I've read on other sites and message boards have said the exact same thing. And that's weird, because I know Gary's voice well enough and what he sounded like in this episode didn't strike me as familiar. And thing is, it should, given I'm in the midst of watching the Season 1 box set, in which Gary makes several appearances.

So, I'm stumped. I'll try to catch the encore on Thursday afternoon to listen again, but I'm really befuddled right now.
Jimmy Zoppi (Gary's VA) is one of the few VAs to somehow find a way out of the VA clause 4Kids put into the contracts and has been a regular member of the cast since Season 9 started. Currently he voices Meowth, Swellow, Combusken, Corphish, and I believe James.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

The Battle Frontier Pokédexes May & Ash recieved have info on certain Sinnoh creatures (like Chatot, Munchlax, Mime Jr., and Bonsly), but not others. Kind of like how Ash's Kanto Pokédex was upgraded to include information on Togepi and Marril.

Eh? What are you talking about? Ash always stands in awe whenever he sees a powerful Pokémon that he hasn't seen in a while. After all, it's been about a year since his battle with Harrison. Not to mention it's newly evolved, which always pumps up Ash.


Well it seemed like it to me, oh well.


Zoppi also voices Professor Oak now.

[Lutochris]

I could of sworn in the season 1 credits that Matt Mitler was Gary's VA. Was that or Zoppi a pseudonym?

[Duke]

Do you mean Matt Miller? Because that's Tenchi's voice actor on Tenchi Muyo.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

I could of sworn in the season 1 credits that Matt Mitler was Gary's VA. Was that or Zoppi a pseudonym?

That was the first voice for Meowth, before Maddie Bluastein took over.

[Shift]

I could of sworn in the season 1 credits that Matt Mitler was Gary's VA. Was that or Zoppi a pseudonym?That was the first voice for Meowth, before Maddie Bluastein took over.Well, I think it's time to straighten this mess out once and for all. No, Matt Mitler wasn't the original Meowth; he was the Flareon Eevee brother, Rudy of the Orange Crew, and has returned in season 9 as Keanan the Golden Sudowoodo trainer, and the Weavile forest ranger. The first Meowth was voiced by a guy named Nathan Price, who also voiced some characters in Irrisponsible Captain Tyler, like the antangonist general guy and one on Tyler's crewmen. Apparently, he's also known as Matthew Sussman, but I haven't seen his work under that name. Anyway, he's definately at least known as Nathan Price, for sure, so that settles that.
Jimmy Zoppi (Gary's VA) is one of the few VAs to somehow find a way out of the VA clause 4Kids put into the contracts and has been a regular member of the cast since Season 9 started. Currently he voices Meowth, Swellow, Combusken, Corphish, and I believe James.
Teehee. No, silly; Bill Rogers voices those two; he even said himself he voiced Combusken. You're right on the rest, though.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Was a pretty nice battle between both ash and Gary even though it was short.

[Freedom Fighter]

Jimmy Zoppi (Gary's VA) is one of the few VAs to somehow find a way out of the VA clause 4Kids put into the contracts and has been a regular member of the cast since Season 9 started. Currently he voices Meowth, Swellow, Combusken, Corphish, and I believe James.Okay, NOW I hear it. Must've not been in fresh in mind as I thought.

[yoshirider13]

wow the spanish Battle frontier rendition sounds so cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NiM8dVb9ys&mode=related&search=