Hey unemployed! CN needs a VP of programming/acquisitions

[livingfruitvirus]

Everyone complains about the schedule, so if you've got qualifications, time to step up to the plate.

Qualifications: Minimally five or more years in television programming (cable or broadcast) or five or more years children’s television. Some hands-on television production or production management experience preferred. Some degree of oversight of television on-air promotion or marketing desired. Minimum of bachelor’s degree. Self-motivated; energetic; excellent communicator; strong manager; organized; out-of-the-box thinker; passionate about children’s television; awareness/knowledge of trends in children’s marketplace. Extraordinarily strategic thinker a must.

Duties: Supervise on-air scheduling of all programs on Cartoon Network (including series, specials and movies, but excluding Adult Swim) and Boomerang, as well as all new technology platforms. Responsible for times and days that programs air, number of telecasts per program, and rotation of episodes. Responsible for implementing scheduling changes. Provide feedback and direction to on-air promotion group to ensure that promotional spots deliver on intent of programming and to ensure that promotion time is properly weighted against programming initiatives. Together with programming team, conceptualize ratings-driving stunts and creative framework to best display CN programs. Work with marketing, on-air and public relations groups to ensure success of programming initiatives. Manage acquisition of externally produced programming for air on Cartoon Network and Boomerang. Responsibilities include program identification, evaluation, negotiation and acquisition. Once acquired, this position will have brand management responsibilities including creative guidance of series to ensure integrity Cartoon Network brand.

Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. and its subsidiaries are Equal Opportunity Employers.

[Mugen]

Quickly, someone call Jeff Harris and Karl Olson!

[Carolina Red]

Despite a Communication Media degree I don't have the five year experience needed.:(

[Martianinvader]

Whoever lands that position controls CN. That's kind of scary.

Seriously, somebody 'round here has to be good at faking their credentials....

[Taylor Karras]

Yeah, We need Sketch, Duke or Red here to get that job.

It will be the uprising of a new dawn for us.

[BCVM22]

Yeah, We need Sketch here to get that job.

It will be the uprising of a new dawn for us.

That's precisely what the network needs, the self- (and only self-) proclaimed "FANTASY SCHEDULE KING!!!!1111one" making programming decisions.

Brilliant! :moon:

[Sketch]

I wondered what the qualifications were. Now I know but I don't meet them by any means. Maybe they could make an expection if I tell them I could plan out their entire year in less than a day.

I'm not self proclaimed however. I was given my title. I forget who gave it to me though.

[Mr. Ralph]

hmm even though i don't meet the qualifications i think i'd know what i was doing. i could make the best cartoon network ever!! i know what the kids wanna see!

[yoshirider13]

Hurry up sketch and apply so we can have toonami on weekdays and anime in primetime! Oh and new pokemon DP episodes!

[veemonjosh]

If Sketch were to get it, then SGT Frog would be guaranteed. :p

[Taylor Karras]

*hands sketch a job application*

Fill it out, It'll make you cool, Like us.

We made a support thread (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=2410790#post2410790) to support you Sketch, That's how much we care.

[Mr. Manager]

Personally, I think they should give this job to one of the fine folks over at Williams Street.

[Martianinvader]

My worst nightmare is that the new person takes a look at the schedule, sees Naruto there, and says "PG-V? That's not niiiiice!"

[Jeff Harris]

Quickly, someone call Jeff Harris and Karl Olson!Seriously?

Nah. I couldn't possibly be a choice. I mean, I'm not any of these qualifications:

Minimally five or more years in television programming (cable or broadcast) or five or more years children’s television.They wouldn't let me in based on that alone. I mean, the closest experience I have is running a webpage based on a television programming block that I've worked on for almost nine years.

Some hands-on television production or production management experience preferred.They wouldn't let me on on that. Although I did have some minor role in developing Toonami Reactor, the precursor to Toonami Jetstream. Oh, and a very, very, very minor role in the creation of CNX in the UK.

Some degree of oversight of television on-air promotion or marketing desired.No experience there either, unfortunately. I mean, it's not like anybody ever listens to me for anything . . . although The Network did tell WIRED Magazine that I was an expert of sorts, as does Cartoon Network UK. Weird.

Minimum of bachelor’s degree.I got one of those pieces of paper almost five years ago. Haven't cashed it in yet.

Self-motivated; energetic; excellent communicator; strong manager; organized; out-of-the-box thinker; passionate about children’s television; awareness/knowledge of trends in children’s marketplace. Extraordinarily strategic thinker a must.*thinks*



*thinks*



I might be some of those things. I think.

Duties: Supervise on-air scheduling of all programs on Cartoon Network (including series, specials and movies, but excluding Adult Swim) and Boomerang, as well as all new technology platforms.They wouldn't want me there because I might do something crazy like putting older library titles in the afternoons, create a schedule that showcase the original programming one day a week, totally retool and revamp the Friday night lineup, and actually turn Toonami into a teen-oriented block on Saturday nights.

Responsible for times and days that programs air, number of telecasts per program, and rotation of episodes.Again, I'd probably limit shows with limited amount of episodes to once or twice a week rather than every single day and night. Viewer rot is an annoyance.

Responsible for implementing scheduling changes.Seriously, do you think Cartoon Network would hand the keys to the kingdom to an opinionated rabblerouser like me? Honestly?

Provide feedback and direction to on-air promotion group to ensure that promotional spots deliver on intent of programming and to ensure that promotion time is properly weighted against programming initiatives. Together with programming team, conceptualize ratings-driving stunts and creative framework to best display CN programs. Work with marketing, on-air and public relations groups to ensure success of programming initiatives.Hey, here's another reason I'd probably never be considered for the job. I'd actually want to listen to what the viewers want to see. It's obvious The Network has eyes on sites like this, so, heck, I'd acknowledge and appreciate their imput. A dangerous mind am I.

Manage acquisition of externally produced programming for air on Cartoon Network and Boomerang. Responsibilities include program identification, evaluation, negotiation and acquisition.They wouldn't want me again because I'd look to other countries besides Japan and France. Canada and the United Kingdom both have strong animation legacies, and yet, their programming cannot be found in the US. I'd probably find a common friend in Corus. Afterall, they own Teletoon, YTV, and Nelvana, three outlets that can have reciprocal relationships with Cartoon Network.

Oh, and I use words like reciprocal instead of close.

Once acquired, this position will have brand management responsibilities including creative guidance of series to ensure integrity Cartoon Network brand.You mean I'd get to be a guiding force in making Cartoon Network less like The Network and more like Cartoon Network?

Are they serious? I mean, I couldn't do that.

Could I?

[Dr.Pepper]

If only I was older and had a degree:(

[Tea]

This sounds like the dream job for whoever kept making those fantasy schedules.

and actually turn Toonami into a teen-oriented block on Saturday nights.
Someone get this man that job!

[Slipperman]

Hey, as long as they bring back "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi", get rid of "Ed, Edd & Eddy"/"KND"/"Tom Goes To The Mayor", and keep the Fridays live-action segments the way they are (with Tara still on board) I won't be disappointed in whoever lands this job...

Tim (aka the Slipperman)

[Mr. Ralph]

Hey, as long as they bring back "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi", get rid of "Ed, Edd & Eddy"/"KND"/"Tom Goes To The Mayor", and keep the Fridays live-action segments the way they are (with Tara still on board) I won't be disappointed in whoever lands this job...

Tim (aka the Slipperman)

was that a joke???

[Undrave]

Corus doesn't own Teletoon, Corus owns Nelvana who owns a big part of Teletoon stocks but not a majority, the other 'half' of the Majority is either Cookie Jar or Astral Media...not sure...it's kinda hazy and complicated. In any case Teletoon and YTV compete with each other. I know Nelvana and Cookie Jar(Formerly CINAR) have a guaranteed 21% of the scheduling each, at least that's what it was at the begining of the network.

Astral and Corus are competitor yet they both have a hand in Teletoon ^^;; weird heh?

Anyway... maybe we can find a group of Toonzoner who each have at least ONE element of competance they ask and offer Cartoon Network to hire the entire group but with the salary of one person split amongst them XD then not one individual would have 'the key to the kingdom'.

Programming by democracy :p at least the programming wouldn't change in the blink of an eye.

[Dr.Pepper]

Hey, as long as they bring back "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi", get rid of "Ed, Edd & Eddy"/"KND"/"Tom Goes To The Mayor", and keep the Fridays live-action segments the way they are (with Tara still on board)
They have no contral over Adult Swim and if they get rid of Ed Edd n Eddy and KND I will cry.

[Jeff Harris]

Corus doesn't own Teletoon, Corus owns Nelvana who owns a big part of Teletoon stocks but not a majority, the other 'half' of the Majority is either Cookie Jar or Astral Media...not sure...it's kinda hazy and complicated.It's not all that complicated.

Corus owned a stake as did Nelvana. Corus bought Nelvana and inherited their stake in Teletoon. Astral Media owns the other half of Teletoon. And, if you've been paying attention to the news lately, media analysts in Canada believe that both Astral and Corus are flirting with each other and may merge by the summer.

I do know that the CRTC orders all the networks to have a 2/3 majority Canadian programming mandate. The reason that anime gets on the air is because the vocal talents are mostly Canadian-based, thus, they qualify as Canadian programming.

Teletoon exists largely BECAUSE of the Canadian animation industry. Nelvana, Cookie Jar, Studio B, Rainmaker/Mainframe, Cuppa Joe, Alliance/Atlantis, Nerd Corps, Carbunkle, and, of course, the indy artists and animators in the country all have contributed to Teletoon's programming and initiatives, such as sponsoring artists and animators with grants and the like for both the English-speaking audience as well as the Francophones in the country as well. I kind of like that.

In any case Teletoon and YTV compete with each other.As does Treehouse TV and YTV. And Family Channel. However, YTV isn't an animation network and can't launch one either officially in Canada either. Kind of the reason why MuchMusic plays music videos and MTV Canada can't (of course, they rarely play music videos in the States, so, we're not all that different). The country granted licenses for specific network types, and they have to stick to those types. Or else, there would be trouble.

Whoever becomes the new VP of Programming and Acquisitions of Cartoon Network needs to know how the rest of the world works.

[livingfruitvirus]

I do know that the CRTC orders all the networks to have a 2/3 majority Canadian programming mandate. The reason that anime gets on the air is because the vocal talents are mostly Canadian-based, thus, they qualify as Canadian programming.

However, there really isn't much of that on in Canada. Currently, Cartoon Network has two Canadian dubbed anime series on the air, while YTV only has one. The prominent cable networks airing anime up there include YTV, Razer, and G4TechTV, and if you look at their selection that currently airs or has aired in recent months:

YTV:
- Naruto (Los Angeles)
- Zatch Bell! (Los Angeles)
- Inuyasha (Vancouver)
- Yu-Gi-Oh series (New York)
- Pokemon (New York)
- Bleach (Los Angeles)
- Idaten Jump (Los Angeles)
- One Piece (New York)
- Ghost in the Shell (Los Angeles)
- Eureka Seven (Los Angeles)
- Fullmetal Alchemist (Ft. Worth)
and coming soon, Gundam SEED Destiny (Vancouver)

Razer:
- Samurai 7 (Ft. Worth)
- Basilisk (Ft. Worth)
- Trinity Blood (Ft. Worth)
- Samurai Champloo (Los Angeles)
- Cowboy Bebop (Los Angeles)

G4TechTV
- ROD The TV (Los Angeles)
- Tenjho Tenge (Los Angeles)
- Gad Guard (Los Angeles)
and supposedly more shows coming, all of which are Los Angeles dubbed.

[Undrave]

It's not all that complicated.

Corus owned a stake as did Nelvana. Corus bought Nelvana and inherited their stake in Teletoon. Astral Media owns the other half of Teletoon. And, if you've been paying attention to the news lately, media analysts in Canada believe that both Astral and Corus are flirting with each other and may merge by the summer.

I do know that the CRTC orders all the networks to have a 2/3 majority Canadian programming mandate. The reason that anime gets on the air is because the vocal talents are mostly Canadian-based, thus, they qualify as Canadian programming.

Teletoon exists largely BECAUSE of the Canadian animation industry. Nelvana, Cookie Jar, Studio B, Rainmaker/Mainframe, Cuppa Joe, Alliance/Atlantis, Nerd Corps, Carbunkle, and, of course, the indy artists and animators in the country all have contributed to Teletoon's programming and initiatives, such as sponsoring artists and animators with grants and the like for both the English-speaking audience as well as the Francophones in the country as well. I kind of like that.

As does Treehouse TV and YTV. And Family Channel. However, YTV isn't an animation network and can't launch one either officially in Canada either. Kind of the reason why MuchMusic plays music videos and MTV Canada can't (of course, they rarely play music videos in the States, so, we're not all that different). The country granted licenses for specific network types, and they have to stick to those types. Or else, there would be trouble.

Whoever becomes the new VP of Programming and Acquisitions of Cartoon Network needs to know how the rest of the world works.

Oooh you know a lot. Yeah I like Teletoon a lot myself, more the French network than the English one though. Their commitement to nationnal content is great, even if there's always some brat to complain about the lack of anime or DCAU shows 'n stuff. I agree with you that the head of programming at CN should know what is going on around the world and not just in the US, Japan and France.

I think Canadian animation just doesn't get the exposure and respect it deserves (it's not alone in that off course) in it's native continent, no matter which side of the border. Shows like Class of the Titans, Delilah & Julius, Carl2(squared) or Di-Gata Defenders for exemple. Personally I'd take even an episode of 'Sons of Butcher' over any 'Tom goes to the Mayor' or '12 oz. Mouse' any time of the day.

[Jeff Harris]

However, there really isn't much of that on in Canada. Currently, Cartoon Network has two Canadian dubbed anime series on the air, while YTV only has one. The prominent cable networks airing anime up there include YTV, Razer, and G4TechTV, and if you look at their selection that currently airs or has aired in recent months:

YTV:
- Naruto (Los Angeles)
- Zatch Bell! (Los Angeles)
- Inuyasha (Vancouver)
- Yu-Gi-Oh series (New York)
- Pokemon (New York)
- Bleach (Los Angeles)
- Idaten Jump (Los Angeles)
- One Piece (New York)
- Ghost in the Shell (Los Angeles)
- Eureka Seven (Los Angeles)
- Fullmetal Alchemist (Ft. Worth)
and coming soon, Gundam SEED Destiny (Vancouver)

Razer:
- Samurai 7 (Ft. Worth)
- Basilisk (Ft. Worth)
- Trinity Blood (Ft. Worth)
- Samurai Champloo (Los Angeles)
- Cowboy Bebop (Los Angeles)

G4TechTV
- ROD The TV (Los Angeles)
- Tenjho Tenge (Los Angeles)
- Gad Guard (Los Angeles)
and supposedly more shows coming, all of which are Los Angeles dubbed.Hmm . . . well, they could always give the government the excuse that many of the vocal artists are Canadian-born and some are still citizens working on those shows, particularly a lot of the New York-based ones over at 4Kids and a few at Bandai and Geneon. Still wouldn't excuse the FUNimation shows, most of which are Texas-born.

I mean, Canada had their own locally-based vocal talents for DBZ and Dragon Ball for a while.

So, given that, some of the vocal talents can be used by networks as proof of Canadian talents used in entertainment, thus, using a legal loophole of sorts proving that a certain amount of talent involved in a show must be citizens or expatriates of Canada. It's weird.

And, for the record, I'd really like to see Cartoon Network pick up Class of the Titans, Delilah and Julius, and Di-Gata. Heck, I'd even stomach Cartoon Network airing Delta State if they could figure out exactly where to put it. They'd the only people I'd actually trust with the property Stateside considering what Nick did with 6Teen and what they might do to Wayside.

[Taylor Karras]

Why doesn't anyone lie and fake their credentials, Easy way of getting a job.

[livingfruitvirus]

Why doesn't anyone lie and fake their credentials, Easy way of getting a job.

Did you SERIOUSLY just write that and hit submit?

[Tea]

Speaking of Canadian animation, it'd be awesome if CN could somehow get Rock & Rule. *hinthint*

[BCVM22]

Did you SERIOUSLY just write that and hit submit?

The answer will disappoint but not surprise.

[Matt Hazuda]

Why doesn't anyone lie and fake their credentials, Easy way of getting a job.Yes, because this is a terrible movie starring Rob Schneider and no one will bother to check your references and crazy antics will ensue, possibly with a chimp, but maybe not.

[Zeonic Freak]

If i were in charge of the sceduele, i would put on everything Toonami aired before there 5th aniverssary. Yes, everything...

Then add like a Giant Robot MONTH which will be like 4 times a year, and add Gundam series that has yet to make land at american shores and will probably never will along with old school Go Nagai Mazinker Z/ Mazinkaiser and other Giant Robo shows. Taking up the cencered mecha in the day, and the uncencered mecha during the AS hours (but of course leave Futurama the same way as it is).

Then of course play 80's anime like Dirty Pair, Crusher Joe, Megazone 23 and my personal fave Bubblegum Crisis and many many more!!!!

Oh yea, and you people get your precious Naruto and One Piece as well...

Then i would get fired because my robot shows and others wernt edited or some crap.

But it would be probably the best moment CN ever had in forever...

Which is why, im unqualified for the job...

[Shrek976]

Somebody please apply with experince if you do could you please bring back the what a cartoon show, dexters labratory, the powerpuff girls, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken all with new episodes if possible. Also make ads the way cartoon network did during the glory days and change the logo back to thishttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/CNlogo.gif instead of the current logo. If you get the job and do all of this then that would make Cartoon Network one of the best kids channels again.Maybe even making Cartoon Network be the best kids channel again.

[Pepperidge]

Hmm . . . well, they could always give the government the excuse that many of the vocal artists are Canadian-born and some are still citizens working on those shows, particularly a lot of the New York-based ones over at 4Kids and a few at Bandai and Geneon. Still wouldn't excuse the FUNimation shows, most of which are Texas-born.

I think you're over-estimating how much the CRTC (not "the government") intervenes in the acquisitions that stations make. As long as YTV and Teletoon follow the quotas and expectations set out in their licenses, they're free to acquire anything they want. (In some cases, they may acquire programming that technically doesn't meet the general expectations set out in their license, such as when YTV acquired Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex despite the fact that it can't be considered youth-oriented by any stretch of the imagination.) It is in no way a pre-requisite that anime programming have some degree of Canadian involvement, and they are by no means breaking any rules or expectations by airing anime that doesn't.

Shows that were dubbed in Canada and could be liberally scheduled on YTV like Sailor Moon, early Dragon Ball, and later Inuyasha and Gundam SEED played an enormous part in generating interest in anime in Canada, but that's about it. Most anime acquisitions are made because the content is popular and gets huge 12-17 ratings, not because of anything involving content CanCon.

I mean, Canada had their own locally-based vocal talents for DBZ and Dragon Ball for a while.

Actually, that version was being recorded specifically for the European market which, for whatever reason, couldn't obtain the Texas dub. The fact that YTV was in the middle of a large dispute with FUNimation in regards to receiving episodes of DBZ on time, and the fact that an alternate dub which could qualify as Canadian Content had also become available was just a satisfying coincidence for them at the time.

So, given that, some of the vocal talents can be used by networks as proof of Canadian talents used in entertainment, thus, using a legal loophole of sorts proving that a certain amount of talent involved in a show must be citizens or expatriates of Canada. It's weird.

No... it doesn't work like that at all. Just having one or two Canadian cast members isn't enough to earn a show CanCon points. The only way an anime would qualify is if ALL of the English language production was done by a company like Ocean Studios, which generally tends to be the case with the shows they handle. But even the, the shows only qualify as "50% Canadian Content".

They don't need a "loophole" to air anime. It's not like it's against the rules or anything.

Heck, I'd even stomach Cartoon Network airing Delta State if they could figure out exactly where to put it.

Honestly, if I were in charge of Teletoon, I would advise them not to put it anywhere.

Speaking of Canadian animation, it'd be awesome if CN could somehow get Rock & Rule. *hinthint*

It would also be nice if a channel in Canada would actually get the rights to air it.

[Taylor Karras]

Somebody please apply with experince if you do could you please bring back the what a cartoon show, dexters labratory, the powerpuff girls, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken all with new episodes if possible. Also make ads the way cartoon network did during the glory days and change the logo back to thishttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/CNlogo.gif instead of the current logo. If you get the job and do all of this then that would make Cartoon Network one of the best kids channels again.Maybe even making Cartoon Network be the best kids channel again.

Stop posting your ideas and do them, What you oughta do is go to college and get the appropiate degrees, Then get experience by starting your own company, You'll gain experience as time grows, Then you'll get recommended for all sorts of CEO jobs, May I suggest the $100,000 thai hooker.

Oh, And that job is for the CEO, Not the VP of Aquisitions and Programming.

[Draft]

You guys do realize that iff you want to bring all these shows back, there is no possible way to..

Duties: Supervise on-air scheduling of all programs on Cartoon Network (including series, specials and movies, but excluding Adult Swim) and Boomerang, as well as all new technology platforms. Responsible for times and days that programs air, number of telecasts per program, and rotation of episodes. Responsible for implementing scheduling changes. Provide feedback and direction to on-air promotion group to ensure that promotional spots deliver on intent of programming and to ensure that promotion time is properly weighted against programming initiatives. Together with programming team, conceptualize ratings-driving stunts and creative framework to best display CN programs. Work with marketing, on-air and public relations groups to ensure success of programming initiatives. Manage acquisition of externally produced programming for air on Cartoon Network and Boomerang. Responsibilities include program identification, evaluation, negotiation and acquisition. Once acquired, this position will have brand management responsibilities including creative guidance of series to ensure integrity Cartoon Network brand

So pretty much all you do is schedule Cartoon Network and Boomerang(Minus [as]) with whatever is in the CN/TW Library that TW won't be ridiculous for airing the show/ Now i love this part: You are responsible for how many telelcasts a show gets and the rotation of the show, Doesn't Squirrel Boy run at least 5 nights a week, with 13 episodes? And another thing is get accquisitions from Jap... Externally produced shows(Like Eyeshield 21). And you also have creative guidance of the series so they are the Cartoon Netowrk Brand(in the CN we live with that has Squirrel Boy and HiHi Puffy AmiYumi, Crap)

So you can't suggest the revival of a show i guess(Or, at least put it into production), but you can accquire great shows from jap....Non-In House companies, and schedule CN(But i'm sure they wouldn't let anyonere-air Cow and Chicken and etc on regular CN)

[Taylor Karras]

But you can put old stuff on the 6:00 slot or the late-night friday block.

[Draft]

Sure, but remember, the Higher ups can surely force you to change something to the 12th airing of the newer crap

If it were my decision, 11pm-5am on friday would be adult swim(airing Encores of new stuffs, Pee-Wee, Pilots of never made shows, and Space Ghost to Coast(With 5-6AM being Home Movies and Voltron)

[Taylor Karras]

Sure, but remember, the Higher ups can surely force you to change something to the 12th airing of the newer crap

If it were my decision, 11pm-5am on friday would be adult swim(airing Encores of new stuffs, Pee-Wee, Pilots of never made shows, and Space Ghost to Coast(With 5-6AM being Home Movies and Voltron)

I've always figured [adult swim] fridays to be a 2 hour block on Cartoon Network airing after Friday's, and when the 2 hours are over, It returns to Cartoon Network Programming.

It would air new programs and sunday would be the day for reruns.

[Jeff Harris]

I think you're over-estimating how much the CRTC (not "the government") intervenes in the acquisitions that stations make. Well, technically speaking, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission does answer to Minister Oda and the Department of Canadian Heritage, which is a part of Parliament, so, in four words, it is the government.

You know, the US needs a Department of American Heritage, but the world would probably look at us and say, "Aren't you guys arrogant enough?"

As long as YTV and Teletoon follow the quotas and expectations set out in their licenses, they're free to acquire anything they want. (In some cases, they may acquire programming that technically doesn't meet the general expectations set out in their license, such as when YTV acquired Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex despite the fact that it can't be considered youth-oriented by any stretch of the imagination.)Well, technically, GitS: SAC is marketed to the young teen audience, a portion of the viewers YTV caters to, as evidenced by previous shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. If YTV picked up a show like, say, Afro Samurai or Evangelion or a movie like Ninja Scroll or Vampire Hunter D, then YTV would be going beyond their license, and the CRTC will be on their case.

Shows that were dubbed in Canada and could be liberally scheduled on YTV like Sailor Moon, early Dragon Ball, and later Inuyasha and Gundam SEED played an enormous part in generating interest in anime in Canada, but that's about it. Most anime acquisitions are made because the content is popular and gets huge 12-17 ratings, not because of anything involving content CanCon.But Canadian talent does help in helping it stay on in the country at times, right? Shows produced with talent from Canadian houses like Ocean does help a show stay on the lineups a little longer, correct? I know I might be wrong on that.

Just having one or two Canadian cast members isn't enough to earn a show CanCon points. The only way an anime would qualify is if ALL of the English language production was done by a company like Ocean Studios, which generally tends to be the case with the shows they handle. But even then, the shows only qualify as "50% Canadian Content".I see.

I know the rule states that a network's total programming has to be 50% Canadian, but I could have sworn I read that they were trying to pass legislation to increase the amount to 2/3 of programming. Guess it didn't pass.

They don't need a "loophole" to air anime. It's not like it's against the rules or anything.Nope. But do tell me, how's YTV's anime VOD channel turning out, and what's the lineup like?

It would also be nice if a channel in Canada would actually get the rights to air (Rock and Rule).Didn't Nelvana produce and own the film?

[Taylor Karras]

The suspence is killing me.
Tell me, Has anyone gotten the position yet?

[BCVM22]

The suspence is killing me.
Tell me, Has anyone gotten the position yet?

...Seriously, man?

The position went up, what, less than a week ago? If you're in charge of hiring personnel for a major cable network and you have an opening for one of the most influential executive positions at said network, you're going to take as much time as you feel is necessary to fill it, and I can near-guarantee that the time needed isn't a few days' time. Plus, they'll likely put out a press release when they do fill it. I'm approaching "Aghast" on the Surprised-o-meter that you're honestly asking if the position's been filled yet.

For the record, your honest suggestion that someone fake their credentials and apply only registered a "Somewhat Startled".

[Pepperidge]

Well, technically speaking, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission does answer to Minister Oda and the Department of Canadian Heritage, which is a part of Parliament, so, in four words, it is the government.

Yeah, but it's still just a bureaucratic organization handling broadcast licenses. The way you describe it makes it seem more like the government is directly telling stations what they can and can't air, which is certainly not the case.

Well, technically, GitS: SAC is marketed to the young teen audience, a portion of the viewers YTV caters to, as evidenced by previous shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. If YTV picked up a show like, say, Afro Samurai or Evangelion or a movie like Ninja Scroll or Vampire Hunter D, then YTV would be going beyond their license, and the CRTC will be on their case.

Just because Bandai slaps "13UP" on the DVD packaging doesn't necessarily mean it's being marketed to young teens. The show's central appeal still lies with a much older audience than something like Buffy primarily attracts. And despite its age, Evangelion would be far from out of place on YTV.

My point is that YTV can't be stopped from acquiring a show that goes beyond their license. The only way anything would happen would be if someone actually filed a complaint about it, and even then the CRTC would likely be indifferent unless it was a really serious issue. When Teletoon acquired Beetlejuice, despite the fact that the film wasn't "animation related" in the manner defined in their recent license amendment, I filed a complaint which basically amounted to nothing on that particular issue.

But Canadian talent does help in helping it stay on in the country at times, right? Shows produced with talent from Canadian houses like Ocean does help a show stay on the lineups a little longer, correct? I know I might be wrong on that.

I can't think of any examples that would back that claim up. Even shows that do have their voice production done entirely in Vancouver can fade into obscurity just as fast. For instance, despite getting huge ratings, YTV only aired Gundam SEED for two years.

I know the rule states that a network's total programming has to be 50% Canadian, but I could have sworn I read that they were trying to pass legislation to increase the amount to 2/3 of programming. Guess it didn't pass.

Actually, the CanCon quota has been 60% for quite a significant amount of time.

Nope. But do tell me, how's YTV's anime VOD channel turning out, and what's the lineup like?

I don't get digital myself, so I don't know exactly. But according to what I've read online, it's been skewing towards a younger demographic for the past couple of years, shifting from more of a Bionix thing to more of a Zone thing. While it initially had uncut episodes of SEED, Witch Hunter Robin, and Inuyasha, the offerings are now mainly 4Kids shows, Zatch Bell, and the ilk.

Didn't Nelvana produce and own the film?

Yes. And yet Teletoon apparently doesn't have the rights to air it. Bravo used to air it, but that was about a decade ago.

[Duke]

Yeah, We need Sketch, Duke or Red here to get that job.
As much as I'd LOVE to have that job, I don't have anywhere close to the credentials. I have a Communications degree, but I didn't take any of the classes related to video production, never mind working in an actual television studio. My only qualification (if it can be called that) is my post count here on Toon Zone. Although if I did get hired, I'd try my best to get Planetes to air on CN Primetime, smoking be damned. :P

Plus, if I took the job I'd have to quit being a Moderator/Reviewer/Talkback Image Maker/Splash Maker here at Toon Zone.

But I WILL get into CN someday. Not necessarily that position, but another...

[peacebyanymeans]

The suspence is killing me.
Tell me, Has anyone gotten the position yet?

... seriously... stop talking.

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Anywho... I hope that someone will make this network, at the very least, decent again.

[Jeff Harris]

My point is that YTV can't be stopped from acquiring a show that goes beyond their license. The only way anything would happen would be if someone actually filed a complaint about it, and even then the CRTC would likely be indifferent unless it was a really serious issue. When Teletoon acquired Beetlejuice, despite the fact that the film wasn't "animation related" in the manner defined in their recent license amendment, I filed a complaint which basically amounted to nothing on that particular issue.Well, legally under their CRTC license, Teletoon can have, at minimum, 90% animation, meaning that they can air live-action, but only 2 1/2 hours of it a day, a maximum of 16 hours per week. And since Beetlejuice (and the original Batman, which aired on The Detour that month)only aired a handful of times and not more than seven straight days a week, Teletoon was following the conditions of their license.

Also, for the record, Beetlejuice had several animation sequences in it (the snake scene, the marriage scene, and the sandworm scenes) and did inspire an animated series produced by Nelvana and The Geffen Company, therefore, it was animation-related.

Geez, sometimes, it seems like I might actually know something or rather. Or at least I know how to think outside the box.

[Pepperidge]

I do recall that when that amendment to Teletoon's license was first being considered, there was a bit of a debate on what exactly would qualify as "animation related". I believe it was established, as an example, that programming like "Star Trek" would not be considered animation-related as, despite having spun-off animated adaptations, the series itself is not intrinsically linked to animation. On the other hand, something like the live-action Scooby-Doo would qualify.

But whatever. Teletoon will likely always stick closer to their format than CN, so I probably shouldn't complain about it now.

[Tea]

Yes. And yet Teletoon apparently doesn't have the rights to air it. Bravo used to air it, but that was about a decade ago.
It doesn't even air in Canada!? Sadness. :crying:

[Undrave]

I believe Teletoon DID air the Scooby Doo live action movie.

[Pepperidge]

Yeah, it was the first live action film they aired.