C&C - Bleach - "Episode 13" [12/02] [Archive]

Kitschensyngk

12-03-2006, 12:20 AM

Orihime has powers now.

And apparently a team of guardian pixies at her side.

This is getting weirder and weirder.

Ichigo's father is still insane. And Kon is a nutcase. Is everyone here except Ichigo NOT crazy?

J'onn J'onzz

12-03-2006, 12:21 AM

This episode is...odd.

Edit: This show has awful music.

NickWhiz1

12-03-2006, 12:27 AM

Orihime: @.@

Basically sums up this entire episode.

Oh, and in before Kuwabara.

Beat

12-03-2006, 12:28 AM

Tiny fairies, lots of hollows, idiot dad...

Um, OKAY... >_>

Ahiru-kun

12-03-2006, 12:29 AM

What was with that crazy music at the end?

Grenzer

12-03-2006, 12:32 AM

This dub has by far some of the weirdest scripting I have ever seen. They keep lots of technical terms in their original Japanese form, but then they have Ichigo addressing Ishida by his given name. At least they have Kon calling Rukia "Sis" now, the previous omission of that bugged me.

The episode by itself was decent, but considering what is coming up next week, it pales in comparison. 7/10

jj41

12-03-2006, 12:33 AM

Next episode we get to see one the strongest (and biggest) hollows in existence.

KingDead

12-03-2006, 12:35 AM

Tatsuki rules. The episode further convinces me she and Karin (from the last epsiode) have got to have something in store for them further down the line, considering the abilities and strength they show. Still makes me think Tatsuki might've been a better choice than Orihime to gain powers and all that...:shrug:

The pixie scene came off real clunky and hokey for me, especially thanks to the infodump.

Wow, that song in the last scene is awful.

Ichigo's dad continues to make things really awkward.

Anyone00

12-03-2006, 01:00 AM

As much as I like Orihime I always felt gypped Tatsuki never got powers and became part of the team. I mean she can beat up on non-'Soul Reaper' Ichigo.

jmcc

12-03-2006, 01:06 AM

It was kind of like watching Sailor Moon again.

jmcc

12-03-2006, 01:07 AM

As much as I like Orihime I always felt gypped Tatsuki never got powers and became part of the team. I mean she can beat up on non-'Soul Reaper' Ichigo.Oh, it's been foreshadowed enough that I expect it at some point.

edit: also, I don't think she can beat him up anymore. I seem to remember the manga implying that Ichigo eventually overtook her in their karate class as kids.

PickHut

12-03-2006, 01:09 AM

Well, that was a, erm, interesting episode. Orihime and the F-Team... didn't see that coming.

Hyper Shadow X

12-03-2006, 01:19 AM

Parts of this reminded me of a hentai for some reason.

Nimarmo

12-03-2006, 01:31 AM

Oh, you haven't heard the last of that song...

But really, it's fortunate that it's so lame and cheesy. After cringing, it turns into ironic fun, and now I smile every time I hear it.

And yeah, the issue with first name usage is pretty weird. This dub's only problems so far have been with translations, the VA is quite good.

Next week is awesome.

Master Moron

12-03-2006, 01:39 AM

Orihime: @.@

Wrong. Orihime: ()()

You know. I'm not sure that this series really needed a bunch of pixies.

I find Ichigo's dad rather disturbing. Why the hell did he feel the need to bare his chest to hug his daughter? If I actually knew a father who acted that way towards his daughter I'd probably call child protective services.

And did anyone else notice that at the beginning of this episode Ichigo pronounce Kon the way everyone on this board says it's supposed to be pronounced?

Zach Logan

12-03-2006, 01:51 AM

Hey I had a long night.

Stickied.

Updating everything:
12 Episodes until Intro #2
Ending #2 begins next Saturday

Master Moron

12-03-2006, 02:43 AM

Hey I had a long night.

Stickied.

Updating everything:
12 Episodes until Intro #2
Ending #2 begins next Saturday

You know, I actually probably would have rather been surprised to get the new ending. But, I guess it really doesn't matter. Seems pretty early to get a new ending doesn't it? I mean, I know Eureka 7 changes endings every 13 episodes, but usually longer series wait a bit longer to change the ending. Do we know if Adult Swim will air the other openings and endings or will they pull a Bo-bo-bo-bo Bo-bo-bo on us?

TWinPA

12-03-2006, 03:45 AM

I'm guessing the manga passed this point of the story sometime between the when the anime began production and when it started airing in Japan, judging by the Intro.

Am I correct?

Duke

12-03-2006, 04:34 AM

KuwabaraTheMan

12-03-2006, 08:33 AM

Ichigo calling Ishida by his given name for the insta-fail.

Good episode, but that aspect makes this dub mediocre at best. Hopefully the correct that soon, because its REALLY annoying and out of place.

Just two episodes until the story starts, now!

jmcc

12-03-2006, 09:25 AM

KuwabaraTheMan

12-03-2006, 09:34 AM

Anyone who complains about #1 answers to me!

Bleach music is awesome!

Grenzer

12-03-2006, 10:33 AM

Ichigo calling Ishida by his given name for the insta-fail.

But for some reason Ishida calls Ichigo by his family name, which is true to the original version. That's what bugs me, it's so inconsistent in the dub.

Ackar

12-03-2006, 12:44 PM

You know, I actually probably would have rather been surprised to get the new ending. But, I guess it really doesn't matter. Seems pretty early to get a new ending doesn't it? I mean, I know Eureka 7 changes endings every 13 episodes, but usually longer series wait a bit longer to change the ending. Do we know if Adult Swim will air the other openings and endings or will they pull a Bo-bo-bo-bo Bo-bo-bo on us?

But this is a good time for the new ending. Team Ichigo has now been introduced and it's time to set up the big bads for the next part of the story.

Wow, that song in the last scene is awful.

Get used to it. It's not going away anytime soon. ;)

Sketch

12-03-2006, 12:54 PM

For some reason, Stephanie Sheh sounded really off most of the episode as Orihime, especially in the beginning. This is made up by Urahara's VA getting some better direction, resulting in the voice not sounding so forced.

As for the actual episode: Tsubaki rules.

On the contrary. I thought this episode was the first time I enjoyed Stephanie Sheh as Orihime. When she "got down to business" she didn't sound too much like Eureka or some of her other roles and I appreciated that if only a little bit.

Tsubaki does indeed rule.

SS5goku

12-03-2006, 02:23 PM

NelStone

12-03-2006, 02:24 PM

Eh, an okay episode. The whole fairy power thing kinda put me off.

Captain Highwind

12-03-2006, 02:35 PM

Anyone who complains about #1 answers to me!

Bleach music is awesome!

Eh, Number 1 can only be truly appreciated with power-up scenes.

KuwabaraTheMan

12-03-2006, 02:40 PM

I really didn't watch this episode, because it started to freak me out when that girl said she'd love Orihime and she wanted to kiss her. It may just be me, or maybe she was playing around, I don't know I just know one thing, it freak me out.

No, she wasn't playing around. Chizuru is a lesbian and hot for Orihime. Its actually even more blatant in the manga, and Kubo has actually mentioned that many of his proposed lines for her have been rejected by his editors.

:D

Duke

12-03-2006, 04:28 PM

On the contrary. I thought this episode was the first time I enjoyed Stephanie Sheh as Orihime. When she "got down to business" she didn't sound too much like Eureka or some of her other roles and I appreciated that if only a little bit.
Yea, but the first 5 minutes were just awful (when Orihime started to push Tatsuki and Chizuru away, that was one of the worst-acted moments in the dub yet), and I wish Sheh would pick a pronounciation for Chizuru and stick with it. She went from "Chizu-ru" to "Chi-zu-ru" and back all throughout the episode.

SS5goku

12-03-2006, 04:40 PM

No, she wasn't playing around. Chizuru is a lesbian and hot for Orihime. Its actually even more blatant in the manga, and Kubo has actually mentioned that many of his proposed lines for her have been rejected by his editors.

:D

I just hope that Orihime isn't a lesbian.

Duke

12-03-2006, 04:43 PM

I just hope that Orihime isn't a lesbian.
Nah, she's only got hots for Ichigo, which again, is more spelled out in the manga. (In the manga, she imagines the two of them running through a field of flowers, only for the scenery to change to them running a marathon, and during the Kon arc in the manga, Orihime realizes Ichigo's coming near because she can smell him no matter where he is [she gets a pair of cat ears and whiskers during this shot], not to mention that realized right off that Ichigo wasn't Ichigo during that arc).

SS5goku

12-03-2006, 05:22 PM

Nah, she's only got hots for Ichigo, which again, is more spelled out in the manga. (In the manga, she imagines the two of them running through a field of flowers, only for the scenery to change to them running a marathon, and during the Kon arc in the manga, Orihime realizes Ichigo's coming near because she can smell him no matter where he is [she gets a pair of cat ears and whiskers during this shot], not to mention that realized right off that Ichigo wasn't Ichigo during that arc).

Thank God, I was hoping she wasn't, but by the way Orihime and Ichigo is a good couple.

Rolling Cloud

12-03-2006, 06:14 PM

Thank God, I was hoping she wasn't, but by the way Orihime and Ichigo is a good couple.

YES! THEY ARE!!!!

Sorry, I'm just an Ichigo x Orihime shipper.

Ichihime - Orihigo

KuwabaraTheMan

12-03-2006, 06:17 PM

Ichigo/Orihime FTW. Pretty obvious, too.

Ichigo/Orihimie
Rukia/Renji
Hitsugaya/Hinamori

True couplings of Bleach.

Beat

12-03-2006, 07:52 PM

Lord knows Ichigo would have to eat out every day for the rest of his life, but with someone like that, it's fine.

If you want to use Yu Yu Hakusho parallels, Orihime is Keiko to Rukia's Botan.

Romanesque

12-03-2006, 09:13 PM

Dang, the Ichigo/Orihime crowd is strong here. :p
Too bad it's too early to really discuss the matter.

At the moment, we've got nothing more than a one-sided crush between two people who barely know each other.

--Romey

Nimarmo

12-03-2006, 11:38 PM

Lord knows Ichigo would have to eat out every day for the rest of his life, but with someone like that, it's fine.

Hey, this is a family board!

Mugen

12-03-2006, 11:41 PM

Hey, this is a family board!

Well, Ichigo is a lucky man...;)

Beat

12-03-2006, 11:42 PM

Well I don't know what was on your mind, but unless he wants to eat Orihime's cooking...

Kyuss

12-03-2006, 11:45 PM

Well I don't know what was on your mind, but unless he wants to eat Orihime's cooking...
I'd rather eat my own spawn thanks.

Orihime is certainly true to her "name" roots. But as far as any ability she might have cooking, I think it's safe to say, Ichigo better learn to cook for himself.

On a side note, I really think Ichigo needs to learn something about his "leakage" with spiritual energies. If this "energy" was similar to radiation, for example, this entire city would be infested with six armed mutants or something similar.

Master Moron

12-04-2006, 01:47 AM

But this is a good time for the new ending. Team Ichigo has now been introduced and it's time to set up the big bads for the next part of the story.

But, you know that elegant looking girl with the black hair who is shown in the ending hasn't had any lines yet. I mean, Kon checked her out in the episode where he was first introduced, but she hasn't had any lines yet. You'd figure that they'd want to at least give all the characters in the first ending lines before they change the ending.

Kyuss

12-04-2006, 01:49 AM

Moron,

Uhm maybe because she's a secondary character, and not as important as say Chad or Orihime. I could be wrong...

Duke

12-04-2006, 01:51 AM

But, you know that elegant looking girl with the black hair who is shown in the ending hasn't ahd any lines yet. I mean, Kon checked her out in the episode that ht ewas first introduced, but she hasn't had any lines yet. You'd figure that they'd want to at least give all the characters in the first ending lines befor they change the ending.
You mean the girl the teacher automatically trusted after the incident was over?

If so, there's a good reason she doesn't have many lines, and it has a major reason to do with the arc that starts up soon.

Kyuss

12-04-2006, 01:52 AM

Duke,

Is that the arc between the two other arcs? Or am I thinking of something else?

Duke

12-04-2006, 02:27 AM

Duke,

Is that the arc between the two other arcs? Or am I thinking of something else?
I'm talking about the Soul Society arc. Though the title alone pretty much gives the reason why you don't see her much...

Freedom Fighter

12-04-2006, 05:28 AM

I'm loving Tatsuki more and more, as it seems she fits into this series a whole lot more than Orihime does. Then again, Tatsuki with Orihime's awesome assets... uh, I mean, powers. :anime:

The pixies' introduction worked better in the manga because it is rather lengthy, so it was hard to catch names and whatnot. But seriously, they're gonna have a hard time teaching that girl about her powers. Oh well... at least one good thing came out of this... she can just use them and yell "I reject" every time a guy looks at her 'that' way.

And did the conflict between Ichigo and Ishida really last this long? They haven't done anything, and I already wish the battle was dang over!

"Flower and Hollow": 6.5/10.

Duke

12-04-2006, 02:54 PM

And did the conflict between Ichigo and Ishida really last this long? They haven't done anything, and I already wish the battle was dang over!
Things always seem to go faster in the manga, especially when you're reading the graphic novels, where everything's already collected into one space.

Lutochris

12-04-2006, 03:01 PM

I think I'm in love with Tatsuki. So let's see, I'll add her to the list...

Asuka
Kiyone
Misty
Yolei/Miyako
Meilin
Anzu/Tea
Sango
Hilary/Hiromi
Nami
Lt. Hawkeye
Maj. Kusanagi
Tenten
Hinata
Talho
Anemone
Esther
any girl voiced by Kate Higgins or Colleen Clinkenbeard

and now, Tatsuki. So there. I know I'm really pathetic.

If this were the real world Karin's dad would have been featured on a Law & Order:Special Victims Unit episode a long time ago.

From the POV of someone who's only seen what AS has shown so far, I would have guessed that Ichigo/Rukia would be the obvious couple, but whatever.

Freedom Fighter, I was wondering - have you ever given anything a rating OTHER than 6.5-7.5/10?

KuwabaraTheMan

12-04-2006, 03:03 PM

Lt. Hawkeye
Talho
Esther
any girl voiced by Kate Higgins or Colleen Clinkenbeard
Redundant much?

From the POV of someone who's only seen what AS has shown so far, I would have guessed that Ichigo/Rukia would be the obvious couple, but whatever.

Their relationship isn't of a romantic nature. Its like brother and sister.

Beat

12-04-2006, 03:15 PM

IE: Yusuke and Botan. Employer and reluctant employ.

Lutochris

12-04-2006, 03:19 PM

Redundant much?

Yeah but I needed to make special mention of them. And damn I forgot Anemone (she's gonna kill me).

IE: Yusuke and Botan. Employer and reluctant employ.

That's what I thought at first but they seem to be a lot closer than Yusuke and Botan, and Rukia seems to be a lot more interested in his feelings and stuff.

Romanesque

12-04-2006, 05:27 PM

Their relationship isn't of a romantic nature. Its like brother and sister.As opposed to Ichigo and Orihime who are just, like, all over each other? :p

--Romey

KuwabaraTheMan

12-04-2006, 05:36 PM

As opposed to Ichigo and Orihime who are just, like, all over each other? :p

--Romey

Ichigo is oblivious.

No need for spoilers.

Romanesque

12-04-2006, 05:40 PM

Ichigo is oblivious.No need for spoilers. It's already obvious that Orihime's got a thing for Ichigo, but there's not a whole lot to prove that Ichigo's got a thing for anyone. Ichigo being oblivious is a problem for any pairing suggested for him, especially with Orihime.

--Romey

Timmay

12-04-2006, 06:53 PM

I always got the feeling Ichigo/Rukia was the most mutual of the pairings.. so you're not alone.

Beat

12-04-2006, 06:59 PM

The one thing that's constant about any shounen airing...

Pairings discussions.;)

Speedy Boris

12-04-2006, 09:19 PM

Not a fan of this episode, mainly because of the fairies. It was nice to see an episode focused on Orihime, though.

Kyuss

12-05-2006, 01:51 AM

I'm talking about the Soul Society arc. Though the title alone pretty much gives the reason why you don't see her much...
Right...but I was...nevermind.

*agrees that when it comes to women (or at least Orihime's feelings to him), Ichigo is more clueless than Clouseau* I mean at least Clouseau had Peter Sellers. Ichigo, that boy...

Freedom Fighter

12-05-2006, 02:17 AM

Freedom Fighter, I was wondering - have you ever given anything a rating OTHER than 6.5-7.5/10?More often than you might think... but a lot of times it falls in that range because I'm 'interested' but not really wowed. It takes something like most episodes of "Avatar," or almost every episode of "Eureka Seven" in the last two-three months to jump higher than that...

I don't like giving anything lower than a 5 if possible... but you'll rarely see me actually mention a score, or heck, even write a review for it. If some show actually resorts to me having to score it below 5... good bet you probably won't see or hear me watching about it again (see "Inuyasha" after Episode 82 or so...).

To tie this into "Bleach," it's pretty much on the same wavelength as the early episodes of "Naruto"... things really don't get pick up until they get into what I would assume is the 20s, yet the show is still interesting enough now to watch and wait. (And to be more fair, to me the "Bleach" manga starts off far better than "Naruto.")

J'onn J'onzz

12-05-2006, 08:48 AM

More often than you might think... but a lot of times it falls in that range because I'm 'interested' but not really wowed. It takes something like most episodes of "Avatar," or almost every episode of "Eureka Seven" in the last two-three months to jump higher than that...

I don't like giving anything lower than a 5 if possible... but you'll rarely see me actually mention a score, or heck, even write a review for it. If some show actually resorts to me having to score it below 5... good bet you probably won't see or hear me watching about it again (see "Inuyasha" after Episode 82 or so...).

To tie this into "Bleach," it's pretty much on the same wavelength as the early episodes of "Naruto"... things really don't get pick up until they get into what I would assume is the 20s, yet the show is still interesting enough now to watch and wait. (And to be more fair, to me the "Bleach" manga starts off far better than "Naruto.")

Yeah, you voted 8 on this week's Naruto, IIRC, so he doesn't always do 6.5-7.5s