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Zach Logan
08-31-2006, 12:44 AM
Check it. check it.
Cool character narration and a cool logo to top it off. Talkback and more.
v1cious
08-31-2006, 12:45 AM
about freaking time
Zach Logan
08-31-2006, 12:47 AM
Just merged the two threads.
Fresh V
08-31-2006, 12:47 AM
HOLY CRAP FRIGGIN' AWESOME!!!!!!!!:D
Ichigo's voice not really what I thought he'd sound like, but it's still cool. And Rukia's voice is perfect! That promo's kickass! Thank god I felt like watching the Shin Chan rerun today.
Levon
08-31-2006, 12:49 AM
So cool to see a promo & hear the dub. The dub sounds great, I'm a fan of Johnny Yong Bosch & Michelle Ruff. Although as great as Johnny Yong Bosch is I'm a much bigger fan of Michelle Ruff.
When I first heard that Viz licensed this I said I wasn't gonna watch the dub, because most of the time they used the Canadian groups which most of the time I don't like. But Vix has changed.
Zach Logan
08-31-2006, 12:56 AM
I'm hoping for a longer promo, since we haven't had one since Wolf's Rain, FLCL, and The Big O.
Hyper Shadow X
08-31-2006, 12:59 AM
What was the wuote said at the end of the promo
Timmay
08-31-2006, 01:08 AM
Maybe this will make the "TECHNO-PROMOS R TEH SUX" people quiet down.
Don_East
08-31-2006, 01:10 AM
How about that, they didn't make the promo have nothing but mindless fight scenes & background music with no description about the show except what it's called. Now if they remove a certain vice-president from the block. We could be in for a good future.
As long as a show has narration in the first few episodes, Adult Swim'll use it in the promos. No narration = techno promo.
JYB sounds NOTHING like how I pictured Ichigo in my head, and neither does Michelle Ruff. I dunno how long I'm gonna get used to this...
Katsumara
08-31-2006, 04:17 AM
Gonna need a link to see the promo again. >.>; I wasn't paying attention.
Kazamuki
08-31-2006, 05:59 AM
glad to hear that the English voices are all right...well if I watched the promo. (hint: what is the link? I checked AS.com, but it was not there.)
Nin-Nin69
08-31-2006, 06:17 AM
link plz.
Sketch
08-31-2006, 06:45 AM
Pretty good promo. Not as thrilling as the Trinity Blood one but it managed to get the plot across without sounding cheesy which is a feat in itself. I think Johnny is going to nail it with Ichigo but I to believe it isn't quite what I'd expect. But what annoys me at this point is that hollow sounded way to well... not creepy despite saying "eat your soul".
Blanket ratings of TV-14-LV. Sounds about right. Well good luck Bleach, you're going to need it.
And there's still no clear indication which will air at 12:30AM or Midnight but whatever...
Tenku
08-31-2006, 07:28 AM
The one time I had to sleep early. And to think, if I stayed up 30 minutes later, I would've saw it... >_<;
Arxane
08-31-2006, 09:42 AM
link plz.
YouTube strikes again! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lg2h58Qe8)
And it seems the dub haters are out in full-force in the comments, with their usual, "OMG I watched a 30-second clip of the dub and it sucks just like Naruto and One Piece OMG!!!11!1"
EscaflownePilot
08-31-2006, 09:59 AM
Sorry, but I don't get how that's any better than what Eureka got.
Okay, so it's got Ichigo's introduction narration for a short spurt at the beginning, which is rather vague and meaningless. And then the promo goes into... well, random action scenes with screaming and techno music. How is that any better than what Eureka got?
Didn't think JYB would go with that type of voice for Ichigo, but now that I think about it, I can see it fitting pretty well. Rukia's voice was spot in, the only think I didn't like was the hollow voice, but that's probably because it was in the middle of an attack.
And it's always fun(annoying) to read all the "omg lik lolz this dub suks cuz i watcch subs!!11" comments.
Tenku
08-31-2006, 12:30 PM
Hmm. I didn't expect Ichigo to sound like that. It fits. Rukia is spot on. o_o
Rolling Cloud
08-31-2006, 01:02 PM
Eh, nice promo. It didn't energize me like the Trinity Blood one did. But, it was still good!
TIME TO EAT YOUR SOUL!!! :evil:
William C. Maune
08-31-2006, 01:54 PM
Okay, so it's got Ichigo's introduction narration for a short spurt at the beginning, which is rather vague and meaningless. And then the promo goes into... well, random action scenes with screaming and techno music. How is that any better than what Eureka got?
There is pretty much narration throughout. We hear Ichigo at the beginning talk about himself, then the smaller person talks about that soul-things, then we hear one of the soul-things, and then we hear from the smaller person again.
It seems like a pretty solid promo to me.
Nin-Nin69
08-31-2006, 02:06 PM
The voices sound fine to me. I was afraid we would get a Richard Cox sounding Ichigo. :p
Conan-san
08-31-2006, 02:12 PM
I can see why this took a solid three weeks after the tapes showed up.
I meen even using the bumper from the orgional JP run (with Kon's paw and everything).
I sence good things with this one.
William C. Maune
08-31-2006, 02:17 PM
The voice sort of reminds me of Yusuke.
EscaflownePilot
08-31-2006, 02:34 PM
There is pretty much narration throughout. We hear Ichigo at the beginning talk about himself, then the smaller person talks about that soul-things, then we hear one of the soul-things, and then we hear from the smaller person again.
It seems like a pretty solid promo to me.Yeah, upon second viewing, I think I have to give the promo more credit than I originally did, although it still has a certain "omg lookitda tekno ACTION!!11" feel to it.
It's a notch above Eureka 7's promos, but several notches below Trinity Blood's promo, which is, to me, the epitome of what an AS action promo should be to try to capture new viewers.
Romanesque
08-31-2006, 02:43 PM
Ichigo's voice is better than expected; I was anticipating far worse. If JYB tries to aim a little deeper and slightly more breath-y as the show goes on, this might just be more than tolerable. I'm curious how well his screaming will keep up. :p
Rukia's voice is again closer than expected, but something about it annoys me - not completely sure why. Like Ichigo, she could go a little deeper, but she's too breath-y. If her vocalization were more throaty, that'd be a big improvement. Personally, I'd have preferred that someone else be cast as Rukia, some actress with a good voice for generic young males...
Overall, it's probably unfair to judge from such a short clip, but so far my dub rating shall be: reasonably tolerable, subject to improvement. I'm eager to hear more, at least.
--Romey
Kazuya Prower
08-31-2006, 03:26 PM
Let's hope adult swim airs the japanese openings & endings this time and not shorten them.
Riza Hawkeye
08-31-2006, 03:32 PM
Let's hope adult swim airs the japanese openings & endings this time and not shorten them.That's impossible due the running time shows have in the US being slightly shorter than in Japan. The only way for them to show the full openings and endings is to take out stuff from the actually show and that's stupid to do just to show them.
On another note, I thought the promo was good, although Trinity Blood's was better.
William C. Maune
08-31-2006, 03:33 PM
Let's hope adult swim airs the japanese openings & endings this time and not shorten them.
It is more than likely out of Adult Swim's hands. They'll likely just be airing whatever Viz sends them. Considering Naruto, Zatch Bell, and Prince of Tennis, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
EscaflownePilot
08-31-2006, 03:48 PM
Aside from the first Zatch Bell! theme, I don't think there's anything wrong with Viz's themes. They could stand to be a tad bit catchier, but they certainly don't stand out as bad.
Conan-san
08-31-2006, 04:49 PM
I would sleap more soundly with a shortened Astrix rather than some random Saturday Monring nonsence like for Viz's less adult properites.
ChibiGoku
08-31-2006, 05:08 PM
Actually, as far as I know, the first 30 or so episodes could air both the opening and endings, along with next episode previews without going over the time. (If I recall, it totals about 23 minutes.) The later episodes, though, probably won't be able to, due to the runtime is increased.
Conan-san
08-31-2006, 05:34 PM
There's a joke about Namak and the effects of time in there, but I can't be arsed to find it.
Zero Kagayaki
08-31-2006, 05:41 PM
it pretty okay to me
Wolfie~Giri
08-31-2006, 05:59 PM
Good job on Ichigo and Rukia. (Even if it was only a 30 second vid.) I won't critic the promo being it's just a promo but I still would like to see a longer version. Besides that, I look foward to Sept 9th.
"I want to eat...YOUR SOUL." lol.
Mugen
08-31-2006, 06:27 PM
The voice sort of reminds me of Yusuke.
As you will see, there are other similarities to YYH and a little bit of Inuyasha.
Emcee
08-31-2006, 06:28 PM
Very nice and solid, I can't wait for this and ateast the voices aren't like the ones on eureka seven.
Fun Fact:Ichigo's VA was born in the same city as me
AkirQueen
08-31-2006, 08:06 PM
Never heard Michelle Ruff speak that low; almost didn't recognize it was her, even tho I knew she was being Rukia. Bravo to her!
Johnny sounded a little gruff which was good. If he sounded casual and rather content like Vash or Kiba, I don't think it would work as well. Yeah, a small thing to note, but hey, it works ^^;
Taylor Karras
08-31-2006, 08:15 PM
Wow, TV-14-V, They definetly made it Adult Swim material, Who thinks this should be on Toonami?... No one, That's who.
EscaflownePilot
08-31-2006, 08:20 PM
Who thinks this should be on Toonami?...*raises hand* Ooh! Ooh! Me! I do! I do!
Funkatron
08-31-2006, 08:40 PM
Wow, TV-14-V, They definetly made it Adult Swim material, Who thinks this should be on Toonami?... No one, That's who.
Agreed. Prefer a TV-14 cut vs PG. Even if Toonami is my first love, it just fits better on AS
Fresh V
08-31-2006, 09:05 PM
Wow, TV-14-V, They definetly made it Adult Swim material, Who thinks this should be on Toonami?... No one, That's who.
I do. Because it does belong on Toonami.
Funkatron
08-31-2006, 10:14 PM
Did anyone notice: they are using the term "Soul Reaper" as apposed to "Death God" or the untranslated "Shinigami"
William C. Maune
08-31-2006, 10:17 PM
To me at least, "Soul Reaper" sounds cooler, although I don't know much about the translation in this particular case. How close of a translation of Shinigami is Soul Reaper?
Tenku
08-31-2006, 10:20 PM
How close of a translation of Shinigami is Soul Reaper?
Well... Shinigami is a Death god. And who reaps souls? Grim Reaper.
Soul Reaper sounds about right, imo.
Fresh V
08-31-2006, 10:22 PM
Did anyone notice: they are using the term "Soul Reaper" as apposed to "Death God" or the untranslated "Shinigami" We knew that already when Viz gave the press release. I don't really mind, since casual viewers would think "Shinigami" is a weird name anway. And Soul Reaper sounds better than Death God, IMO, even though Death God's the more faithful translation.
However, I think they're leaving the Soul Reapers' swords as "Zanpaku-tos", rather than the manga's "Soul Slayers." I'm not sure, though.
Funkatron
08-31-2006, 10:23 PM
Soul Reaper fits better, imho. I know some people prefer "death god", but soul reaper fits more with the grim reaper motif.
Here is aquestion: should they give Chad any accent? and if they do, how heavy should it be?
Fresh V
08-31-2006, 10:26 PM
Here is aquestion: should they give Chad any accent? and if they do, how heavy should it be? Oh god, no. That just wouldn't sound right. He should just have very, very deep voice like in the Japanese version, which fits him perfectly.
Funkatron
08-31-2006, 10:28 PM
Oh god, no. That just wouldn't sound right. He should just have very, very deep voice like in the Japanese version, which fits him perfectly.
I'm only asking cause he is technically Mexican
Romanesque
08-31-2006, 10:50 PM
We knew that already when Viz gave the press release. I don't really mind, since casual viewers would think "Shinigami" is a weird name anway. And Soul Reaper sounds better than Death God, IMO, even though Death God's the more faithful translation.
However, I think they're leaving the Soul Reapers' swords as "Zanpaku-tos", rather than the manga's "Soul Slayers." I'm not sure, though.If they keep Zanpaku-to, it'd be an odd choice. Personally, I'd have preferred keeping Shinigami as it is while translating "Soul Slayer"... but that's me. Then again, the manga translation went with "Soul Reaper" and Zanpaku-to, so I guess their choice is consistent. I just hope they don't follow the manga in leaving random terms untranslated for what seemed to be the sake of leaving random terms untranslated.
--Romey
Here is aquestion: should they give Chad any accent? and if they do, how heavy should it be?Eh, I wouldn't mind a slight accent. Maybe about Osaka-level.
Sketch
08-31-2006, 10:58 PM
Wow, TV-14-V, They definetly made it Adult Swim material, Who thinks this should be on Toonami?... No one, That's who.
Yo
With that said. You have to remember AS ratings are a blanket rating. In the promo for E7 they rated it TV-14-V. It's only been that a few episodes so far and there is more to come but that fact of the matter is it isn't all TV-14.
If Bleach is TV-14 all the time then they've been ratings FMA and Inuyasha wrong or something. Judging by them it'll be TV-PG-LV most of the time if Viz has a lot of swearing. But I imagine it wont have the kind of swearing Champloo does so no bleeps here. The DVDs are rated 13 and up afterall. But the very fact that it doesn't have a blanket rating of TV-MA tells me it could be edited for Toonami. TV-14 to TV-PG is easily done. I think maybe the first episode of Bleach will be TV-14 or push PG to it's limits but until Soul Society it should be mostly TV-PG-LV. Which is basically Naruto with IGPX language. So yeah... Content is no reason for this show to be on Adult Swim.
But you can bet I'll be laughing my arse off if it scores in the top 30 for 9-14. I'm pretty dang sure 12-17 will be a given though. As it is with Inuyasha and Bleach is a more less complicated Inuyasha in a way.
OK people, I do NOT want this thread delving into yet ANOTHER "Bleach should be on Toonami!" thread. We've had enough, everyone knows everyone else's opinions, and the arguement is tired and stale. Just drop it right here, right now.
Brent Long
08-31-2006, 11:10 PM
Eh, I wouldn't mind a slight accent. Maybe about Osaka-level.
Does he have a Kansai accent in the original?
Jedah Dohma
08-31-2006, 11:51 PM
The promo was good. Nice little narration by Ichigo and Rukia.
I thought the voices sounded just fine to me. Looking forward to September 9th.
Captain Highwind
09-01-2006, 12:04 AM
So glad I'm not hearing Roo-ke-ya (Rukia) in this series. Don't need no El-hleck-a Seven name mispronounciations for this show, thanks.
Granted, it was an irrational fear, but a fear nonetheless.
Kat Pryde
09-01-2006, 01:56 AM
Wooh, I'm happy with both Ichigo and Rukia's voices! Though I did recognize Ichigo calling them ghosts as the "dearly departed", which is out of character. But who am I to judge now on this promo, I say it was well done.
Does he have a Kansai accent in the original?
Nah, Kansai accent is more like American Southerner, wherein Chad is coming from Mexico.
Personally, I don't want him to have an accent, having his voice nice and low is fine with me.
Arxane
09-01-2006, 01:58 AM
If they keep Zanpaku-to, it'd be an odd choice. Personally, I'd have preferred keeping Shinigami as it is while translating "Soul Slayer"... but that's me. Then again, the manga translation went with "Soul Reaper" and Zanpaku-to, so I guess their choice is consistent. I just hope they don't follow the manga in leaving random terms untranslated for what seemed to be the sake of leaving random terms untranslated.
--Romey
One thing I like about Viz's translation of Bleach is how they treat the translation of important items and attack names. When an item or attack is first introduced, they give both its Japanese name and a translation in the same speech bubble, and then use the Japanese name throughout the rest of the series. I'm hoping they do something similar to the anime.
Ryan227
09-01-2006, 02:14 AM
I thought the promo was really cool! Still no time though? That's really confusing...
I don't think Chad should have an accent. It's a good question though, either way they'll be some group that hates it... heh if they don't a bunch of people will be like "Ahhh they made Chad sound white!!! This sux!" and if they do "Ahhh they gave Chad an accent!! This sux!" :shrug:
Freedom Fighter
09-01-2006, 04:23 AM
You know, it doesn't make me wanna watch the show as much as Trinity Blood's promo did. Then again, I know what Bleach is about (I'm an enthusiastic follower of the manga) but not Trinity Blood, so the latter series needed to impress me more out of the gate to get my attention.
I like how the logo they used for the promo matches the one you usually see on the inside title page of the manga. Very cool indeed.
j_bwoy
09-01-2006, 06:05 AM
thanks for link just happend to see this at 5am it looks good looks like it was dubbed well.
anime_guru
09-01-2006, 07:10 AM
hm...wow...what else can I say? I think Michelle Ruff will do a great job given the promo (I actually can't wait to hear her in episode 10-a la kanonji episode that should be fun) and actually last summer, when I was having a discussion with a lot of my anime confidants about the dub voicing in bleach, I chose michelle ruff to be rukia, points for me!!!
But...
to be fairly honest, I actually would've preferred Mark Gatha of G-Gundam to be Ichigo, not JYB. In all fairness, if his voice doesn't sound well, hurried, he could do a pretty good Ichigo, just didn't place him as Ichigo. We'll see, as I think it'll work for him, at least in episode 1 because there are a lot of zany events between Ichigo Kurosake and his father, which should be hysterical...
hm...I wish they would air the openings, I think I would cry if they did...even if we didn't get the endings...I would like to hear the openings
Katsumara
09-01-2006, 07:51 AM
Now that I hear it more and more.. Ichigo sounds like a wacked version of Joey from YGO. >.>
livingfruitvirus
09-01-2006, 05:49 PM
If anyone still didn't see it, the promo is displayed on AdultSwim.com's front page in the upper left corner.
Vermunium
09-01-2006, 07:06 PM
I've seen the first couple of episodes of Bleach in Japanese. After seeing the opening and hearing some of the voices. I'm not too sure if I like Ichigo's English voice. Ah well, I've bene reading the manga anyways, I'll come around and eventually like it.
I just hope they don't butcher the opening for the show. I really liked the original.
Fresh V
09-01-2006, 08:35 PM
I just hope they don't butcher the opening for the show. I really liked the original. Well, except for a few, they show all their anime openings unshortened, and I don't see why they wouldn't for Bleach as well. However, the ending will still have to be shortened. That can't be helped.
I just hope they don't create some corny English song like with Zatch Bell, unless the words "Time to eat... YOUR SOUL!" are included in the lyrics. :D
FlyByNite77
09-01-2006, 11:36 PM
Well as for soul reaper vs death god or grim reaper.
I believe Kubo Tite said he preferred Soul Reaper as the english version of Shinigami and that's why Viz went with it for the manga.
purplehairedwonder
09-02-2006, 12:33 AM
JYB is definitely not what I had imagined Ichigo's voice to be like... but after watching the promo, I think it'll work pretty well. I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with it. Should be interesting.
Rukia's voice was spot on, IMO.
Can't wait :anime:
Youko Recca
09-02-2006, 11:15 AM
Hope they treat this like any other anime, in terms of openings.
I don't want no corny Viz crap taking it's place this time.
Katsumara
09-02-2006, 02:12 PM
Please GOD give us Asterisk. I beg of you. T_T
KuwabaraTheMan
09-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Terrible voices so far. JYB sounds nothing like Ichigo. Too old, too cynical, too rough.
Michelle Ruff sounds way too young for Rukia. And Rukia is supposed to sound like a man.
Please save this dub, Stephanie Sheh!
American VAs aren't supposed to match the Japanese voices, they're just supposed to find one that fits.
I saw some comments on another upload of the promo and people were complaining about how they say Ichigo's given name first. Because, you know, Americans are supposed to speak like the Japanese. Some purists are just total morons.
Oh, and some idiot complained about how 4Kids supposedly "ass-raped" this show, even though Viz has the anime, it's TV-14-LV, it hasn't even premiered yet and all he saw was a 30-second promo. Boy, is his dumbass in for a surprise.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-02-2006, 02:48 PM
And those voices don't fit at all.
Plus most good dub voices do match the Japanese voices, at least thematically. I mean, almost all the voices in Naruto's dub match the Japanese voices.
I don't expect them to sound exactly the same, but both voices sound like utter crap. They better improve a lot, as those voices fit about as much as Luffy and Usopp's voices in One Piece's dub.
Mugen
09-02-2006, 03:07 PM
I don't expect them to sound exactly the same, but both voices sound like utter crap.
...based off a 30 second clip.
Majin_Megabyte
09-02-2006, 03:49 PM
Just as long they keep my favorite opening, Ichirin no Hana when they get to it, I'll be happy. Because that song is so addicted that I listen to it almost once a day. But for me, I like the voices so for Ichigo, and Rukia. I just can't to wait to hear the voices for the other main character of Uhara, Chad, Ishida,Ohirime,Kon, Renji, the other Soul Society characters, and of course The Don himself (BOhahahahahahahahaha!)
Mugen
09-02-2006, 05:26 PM
It's amazing that the Bleach promo has garnered over 91,000 views at Youtube. Of course, reading the comments section for the promo is bad for your health.
Ryan227
09-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Michelle Ruff sounds way too young for Rukia. And Rukia is supposed to sound like a man.
HA since when is Rukia supposed to sound like a MAN? She's mistaken for a boy in the beginning but that's pretty much it. That voice was plenty deep enough to be mistaken for a boy (in an anime...)
While I don't think that JYB is perfect for Ichigo, to say he sounds too old is just silly.
Funkatron
09-03-2006, 09:45 AM
Updated Promo says 12:30 next saturday
Speedy Boris
09-03-2006, 10:46 AM
I've never seen the show but the promo got me interested.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-03-2006, 12:29 PM
...based off a 30 second clip.
Yes. And I said I would approach the show with an open mind, but if they sound like that in the show, and don't improve quickly, I'll stick to the Japanese version, because the voices don't fit at all for either character.
Fresh V
09-03-2006, 02:53 PM
Updated Promo says 12:30 next saturday
Crap.
Sketch
09-03-2006, 06:31 PM
And so we have a schedule that gets progressively uh... tamer?
Boondocks - MA: crude language and racial taboos
RC - MA: crude language and extreme violence
Dethklock - MA: extreme violence quite a bit of cursing
Trinity Blood - MA (probably some 14 as well): heavy to extreme violence (?) and probably a bit of cursing
Bleach - 14-LV max (probably a lot of PG-V): lots of blood but not very heavey violence and I imagine a lot of cursing
Eureka seveN - 14-V max (I think) - mostly PG-V: some heavy violence but mostly tame with some language
Inuyasha - 14 max - mostly PG-V: about as violent as Bleach but with less blood and maybe less cursing
You know what I have to say about 12:30-1AM's shows of course. And it seems fairly obvious they put the heavy stuff on there to keep kids, tweens and younger teens from sticking around for Bleach, E7 and Inuyasha.
Sketch
09-03-2006, 06:37 PM
Yes. And I said I would approach the show with an open mind, but if they sound like that in the show, and don't improve quickly, I'll stick to the Japanese version, because the voices don't fit at all for either character.
I ask then.. who would be a better Ichigo. JYB was always my first choice. Defient sounding when he needs to be, "just old sounding enough", and he's got the pipes for the screams for sure.
Bleach's dub should be fine. But I will say... Naruto's is notably better casted. And you'd think since this is on Adult Swim it'd be the other way around or something. Then again I hate quite a few of the strait to DVD dubs from Viz so I guess it's not that surprising. But Zatch Bell and Naruto have great dubs IMO (though Zatch could stand to include more of it's OST). I expect good things from Bleach. So far... just kinda meh. Michele Ruff is great but not as Rukia. Prince as Ishida will be nothing but corny. Seguchi as Orohime just seems like an awful fit as well. But I'll wait to see how it turns out before praising it or condemning it.
Brent Long
09-04-2006, 10:26 AM
I ask then.. who would be a better Ichigo. JYB was always my first choice. Defient sounding when he needs to be, "just old sounding enough", and he's got the pipes for the screams for sure.
Some people have been behind Liam O'Brien who was their second choice.
Bleach's dub should be fine. But I will say... Naruto's is notably better casted. And you'd think since this is on Adult Swim it'd be the other way around or something.
Since when has the target demographic been the key thought during casting?
Naruto can have a cast consisting of actors who aren't the usual suspects because it's dubbed unionally. Bleach has been billed as the opposite, so come to expect who you've heard before whether that's a good thing for you or not.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-04-2006, 11:29 AM
I ask then.. who would be a better Ichigo. JYB was always my first choice. Defient sounding when he needs to be, "just old sounding enough", and he's got the pipes for the screams for sure.
Liam O'Brien, Doug Erholtz, Kyle Hebert, Steve Blum(Kazuma voice), Lex Lang, Crispin Freeman, quite a few others.
Freeman and Blum weren't available due to Union status, but O'Brien was in the freaking running.
Sketch
09-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Kyle might have been alright as would Liam, Kazuma voice shouldn't even be considered though I'm dissapointed that you would suggest that. Erholtz might have been interesting. Lex Lang would have sounded flat IMO. I like JYB better than the rest of those for this type of role actually. I'm sure he'll deliver.
But the guy who I wanted to voice Ichigo is in FUNi's staple... and that's be Robert McCollum. He was the perfect choice IMO. Allas FUNi didn't get Bleach and so no go.
Brent, you should know as welll as anyone that some dubs are shall we say... intentionally cheezed up for kids. It's basically 4kids motto but several other companies also give into the thought that you have to tweak shows to make them work here and that usually includes acting that's no where near the level of most of the shows on Adult Swim (not to say AS doesn't have bad dubs as well though).
Zyzzybalubah
09-04-2006, 01:33 PM
Not bad. Can't wait for Bleach and Trinity Blood...
KuwabaraTheMan
09-04-2006, 02:30 PM
Blum's Kazuma voice would work pretty well for Ichigo, imho. A lot better than Bosch who doesn't quite fit in Ichigo's range. Most of his voices are either too young or too old. And honestly, aside from Vash he hasn't done that much worth writing home about.
McCollum would have been decent, but I would have prefered Jerry Jewel to voice Ichigo in a Funi dub. Justin Cook could have worked, too.
livingfruitvirus
09-04-2006, 04:04 PM
Freeman and Blum weren't available due to Union status, but O'Brien was in the freaking running.
Well technically Blum wouldn't have been available, but maybe "Daniel Andrews" would've been.
I'm glad Blum isn't doing any voice work on this show. He was good for the character of Spike but Ichigo needs another type of voice imo. Blum doing his voice would almost be as bad as Blum doing Mugen's.
Brent Long
09-04-2006, 08:16 PM
Brent, you should know as welll as anyone that some dubs are shall we say... intentionally cheezed up for kids. It's basically 4kids motto but several other companies also give into the thought that you have to tweak shows to make them work here and that usually includes acting that's no where near the level of most of the shows on Adult Swim (not to say AS doesn't have bad dubs as well though).
I know that, and should have made that aware in my post, bull all the same you seem to be giving off the implication that anything dubbed with a youth audience in mind isn't gonna be well cast.
Sure, you're more likely to get better casting from a straght dub of a title than one that was hacked up, but it doesn't mean they're all are going to suffer from poor casting for that reason alone. They can still suffer from it, don't get me wrong, but it's not always due to an intention to tweak it for the target audience.
For instance, some might not be pleased with The Prince of Tennis's casting. That's fine, but I don't think any poor casting in it would stem from an intention by anyone involved with the dubbing process to alter the performances for the people intended to view it. I'd think it'd stem purely from poor casting.
Oh, and I didn't mean to come off as condescending or anything, and I wasn't implying anything specifically with my Prince of Tennis comparison.
AkirQueen
09-04-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm glad Blum isn't doing any voice work on this show. He was good for the character of Spike but Ichigo needs another type of voice imo.
Agreed, as far as not voicing the lead in the show. I can't stand his Kazuma/Mugen voice because its too whiney, imo (yeah going against my own "rule" here) and it sounds too forced, whereas Johnny is just speaking naturally, but with some gruffness to his voice.
wingdarkness
09-05-2006, 01:24 AM
Blum's Kazuma voice would work pretty well for Ichigo, imho. A lot better than Bosch who doesn't quite fit in Ichigo's range. Most of his voices are either too young or too old. And honestly, aside from Vash he hasn't done that much worth writing home about.
McCollum would have been decent, but I would have prefered Jerry Jewel to voice Ichigo in a Funi dub. Justin Cook could have worked, too.
Well if you've seen Mars Daybreak you'll see JYB does a good job as Ghram and if you've ever seen Heatguy J he does an awesomely sublime voice over for the young Boss Leonelli....Kiba from Wolf's Rain wasn't too shabby either...Haven't heard him as Ichigo yet and I agree he wouldn't have been my first choice for that role, but if he can somehow change it up a bit it might grow on me...As for Steven Blum I wouldn't have minded him as Ichigo...His voice would fit better than about 90% of the industry...No voice comes to mind when I think about Ichigo but Blum (not because his voice fits, just that it's better than most)...Honestly I really thought hard and can't come up with one VA that I think would have been perfect for Ichigo so that's why I'm not too upset...because if an animefreak like me can't think of one imagine the VIZ people...Blum is always a good default-voice IMO...Eventhough I get sick of him too sometimes, there's a reason he gets more work than anyone else...
edit: Just caught the Bleach promo commercial on [as] (a couple of minutes after I posted this) and from the few seconds JYB talked it seems he has changed his voice inflexion more than he ever has before in any role to try and fit Ichigo...Now when he finishes off sentences it reverts back to his Renton (eureka 7) voice, but at the start his voice inflexions are totally different and not that bad actually...Didn't even really notice it was him until the end...It seems like it may grow on me...Need to hear more though...
livingfruitvirus
09-05-2006, 01:52 PM
AS's Bleach page is up:
http://www.adultswim.com/shows/bleach/index.html
Demonic Raven
09-05-2006, 02:12 PM
AS's Bleach page is up:
http://www.adultswim.com/shows/bleach/index.html It seems AS got the real intro and ending. What a relief....
Rolling Cloud
09-05-2006, 02:21 PM
AS's Bleach page is up:
http://www.adultswim.com/shows/bleach/index.html
1. Sounds like the Openings and Endings were done really good!
2. I found this during the ending:
Cast:
Johnny Young Bosch
Michelle Ruff
Kate Higgins
Stephanie Sheh
Wendee Lee
Patrick Seitz
Derek Stephen Prince
Sketch
09-05-2006, 02:29 PM
Why on earth is the Shonen Jump monicre on there? They don't even have that on Naruto and One Piece's title cards that CN uses.
Interesting for Peirrot, TV Tokyo and Dentsu's logos to show up in the OP and ED. And boy do those credits fly by fast.
It should be an interesting presentation on Saturday.
Funkatron
09-05-2006, 10:20 PM
Looks like the site has b een updated: Character Bios, Episode guide up to ep 9(spoilers!) and wallpapers
ChibiGoku
09-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Looks like we'll be getting the full opening and ending... Also, I really like how ViZ handeled the opening credits.
Sketch
09-05-2006, 11:45 PM
Yeah the text placement in the opening is very well done and suits the show (or at least the style of the opening).
KaidoYuji8Adam
09-06-2006, 12:12 AM
:)
The AS.com website main splash is BLEACH..sweetness
RiverWalker
09-06-2006, 01:18 AM
geeze, how did I miss this til now?
well I'm unimpressed with the intro, but at least they kept the opener and ending themes,
I think "Soul Reaper" has an evil sound/baggage thats kinda funky.
IMO calling it Soul Slayers instead of Zanpaktou would have been ok, but IMO they should have stuck to Shinigami, and had some little aside or on-screen thing explaining what Shinigami means. (I am not suprised at all they didn't go with "Death God")
"souls of the dearly departed"? wtf? he wouldn't say that? whats wrong with saying "ghosts" or "the dead" or something like that. I think for him to be saying "dearly departed" it needs to have more sarcasm in the tone, or it just sounds too mushy.
and doesn't telling that hollows were formerly humans in the trailer kinda spoil that? it only comes out within the show in the third episode, but doesn't it kinda ruin the suprise for the viewer?
Rocketboy
09-06-2006, 12:03 PM
Bleach is now the splash page on Adult Swim saying it will premiere at Midnight.
Ryan227
09-06-2006, 12:53 PM
Wow, the splash page looks cool... but would they make up their minds already? I can't wait till the premiere though!
A splash page? This can't be right. Aren't they supposed to dust it underneath a bin till the release?
Nin-Nin69
09-06-2006, 04:29 PM
Now it's been confirmed indefinitely that Bleach is starting at Midnight.
http://i.adultswim.com/adultswim/tools/img/cards/home/090406/090406_COVERS_03.jpg
Rocketboy
09-06-2006, 04:34 PM
Nah, it just confirms that AS can't make up their minds.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-06-2006, 04:50 PM
Rukia and Orihime are on there, but Chad and Ishida(both far more important to the story of Bleach) aren't?
Wha Huh?
Chad and Uryu don't have big swords, nor do they have short skirts. So they wouldn't fit the advertising theme.
As for Kon, he's a cute stuffed animal, so he's exempt. Or else he's a goofy monster.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-06-2006, 04:52 PM
How about MEXCICANS! And Guys with cool Arrows!
And Big Swords doesn't work with just Ichigo. Put Renji on somewhere.
Funkatron
09-06-2006, 06:23 PM
Then you have a case of overcrowding the page
KuwabaraTheMan
09-06-2006, 06:40 PM
But they have freaking Kon on there. Kon. Why advertize a show with 2nd string characters? And half of it was empty space anyways.
Whatever, I'm glad they're at least advertizing at all.
Sketch
09-06-2006, 06:57 PM
Kon is very marketable to teenage girls that's why there's so many dang plushies of him. As for adult males... uh... yeah... we all know why Orohime and Rukia are on there. Sorry to say Chad and Ishida just don't sell Bleach and you should have figured that one out by now.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-06-2006, 06:59 PM
Kon is very marketable to teenage girls that's why there's so many dang plushies of him. As for adult males... uh... yeah... we all know why Orohime and Rukia are on there. Sorry to say Chad and Ishida just don't sell Bleach and you should have figured that one out by now.
Chad true. Ishida is pretty popular though, more then Orihime. And everyone pales in popularity to Ichigo and Hitsugaya, but you knew that already.
Doesn't change that Chad is the 4th best character in Bleach.
Sketch
09-06-2006, 08:23 PM
I do hope they do a gentlemen's spread for at least a wallpaper but we'll just have to wait and see.
But no worries buddy I'm sure you'll be able to get a Chad and/or Ishida shirt at Hot Topic in due time.
wingdarkness
09-06-2006, 08:38 PM
Man they should really air BLEACH more than once a week...Like back in the days when CN would always air shows like that...I would much rather watch new dubbed Bleach for a couple months then it goes on hiatus then waiting 2 years to get to the point the anime is now...C'mon swim air it 3 times a week, sheeesh...
But they have freaking Kon on there. Kon. Why advertize a show with 2nd string characters? And half of it was empty space anyways.
Whatever, I'm glad they're at least advertizing at all.
Kon's the goofy monster. Personally, I think the splash works well. There's little wasted space, it's not too busy, and it's eyecatching. It does everything an advertising splash page is supposed to do. The graphic's purpose isn't to show off every little character on Bleach, it's to advertise "Big Swords. Short Skirts. Goofy Monsters." Chad and Uryu have no place in that ad, so they're not there.
Honestly, I think this is one of the best AS splash pages and I think it'd be awesome-looking in a magazine.
Nin-Nin69
09-06-2006, 11:40 PM
I'm fearing what Chad, Kon, and Renji's voices will sound like. We've possibly got a mexican impersination and two goofy voices which could make your ears bleed. :ack:
Yet I want to hear someone do a southern accent. Me and my friends keep doing that when we say "Bankai" and it sounds hilarious. :anime:
How about MEXCICANS! And Guys with cool Arrows!
And Big Swords doesn't work with just Ichigo. Put Renji on somewhere.
Replace Renji for Kuchiki Byakuya and we've got a better cover.
Vermunium
09-06-2006, 11:46 PM
I want to see how far they go with that one girl that's always all over Orihime. Will they air the fact that she has the hots for Orihime, or will they change her dialouge?
Mugen
09-06-2006, 11:51 PM
I want to see how far they go with that one girl that's always all over Orihime. Will they air the fact that she has the hots for Orihime, or will they change her dialouge?
Well, this is AS, not Toonami.
Youko Recca
09-06-2006, 11:55 PM
Not to mention the lesbian isn't all that important. She's more like a running joke.
Nin-Nin69
09-07-2006, 12:16 AM
If they can let Miroku work his perverted magic with underage girls, then she should pass.
KuwabaraTheMan
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
Replace Renji for Kuchiki Byakuya and we've got a better cover.
Byakuya doesn't have a big sword though. Well Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, but that'd be a rather sizable spoiler
Plus Renji is cooler.
Katsumara
09-07-2006, 01:45 AM
THANK GOD they kept Asterisk. I didn't want some random created crap or cut intros. >.>
v1cious
09-07-2006, 02:39 AM
does anyone know why Bleach isn't on The Fix?
Katsumara
09-07-2006, 02:25 PM
Iunno. New series.. hide it from the public until Saturday for the hype?
Quincy Archer
09-07-2006, 02:57 PM
does anyone know why Bleach isn't on The Fix?
It's not friday yet
Malex
09-07-2006, 03:02 PM
Well, E7 and Trinity Blood get/got Fix premieres before the television premieres, but it could just because it's Bleach.
After watching the promo a couple of times, I have gotten accustomed to Johnny's Ichigo, but there is still something about Michelle's Rukia. I'll give her a few episodes since I do like to hear her acting as "human Rukia." As long as they don't do something that Vice Captain/Captain fandub especially to Renji, I'll be fine with the voices.
Asterisk looks good as does the ending. Maybe we can get all the versions of the 3rd ending. -keeping fingers crossed-
Fresh V
09-07-2006, 07:17 PM
HELL YEAH 12:00!!
Well, E7 and Trinity Blood get/got Fix premieres before the television premieres, but it could just because it's Bleach. Uh... Trinity Blood?
Sketch
09-07-2006, 07:22 PM
I want to see how far they go with that one girl that's always all over Orihime. Will they air the fact that she has the hots for Orihime, or will they change her dialouge?
"LESBIANS!!!"
I don't suspect that'd be a problem for Adult Swim.
RiverWalker
09-07-2006, 08:11 PM
"Goofy monsters" worries me.
I mean Kon isn't quite the most serious... but hes not really a monster per se.
and hollows definitely aren't supposed to be goofy... at least I don't see it that way.
and I agree, Renji w/ Zabimiru is far cooler in an outward sorta way than Byakuya.
the lecher lesbian girl... I expect they might tone it down slightly in the translation, but still enough left to get the point across.
another thing that might be interesting would be how they portray Demon Magic, or what they call it.
I wonder if they'll simply have Yachiru using her cutesy nicknames and japanese names without translating the names... I mean how the hell can you have all there is to her "ken chaaaannnnn!" in english?
Rocketboy
09-07-2006, 08:12 PM
In the manga, they have her call him Kenny, so I assume that's what they're going to do.
By the way, ANN has their impression on the dub. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature.php?id=260)
Malex
09-08-2006, 01:01 PM
HELL YEAH 12:00!!
Uh... Trinity Blood?
I meant "will get" since they is an ad for it on the fix.
chris3116
09-08-2006, 08:27 PM
Johnny Yong Bosch as Ichigo is very good. I smell a successor to Steve Blum. For those who know he is, we was a Power Rangers. He played Adam on MMPR and Zeo.
So Canada will air Bleach 1 day before you. It will air tonight at 10:30 Pm on the Bionix block at YTV.
The Bionix block will be like that:
09:00 Inuyasha (a good home for Gundam Seed Destiny since it's officialy announced after Inuyasha will end.)
09:30 Eureka 7
10:00 Full metal Alchemist
10:30 Bleach
11:00 Monster Warrior (can-con filler)
11:30 Dark Orracle (can-con filler)
12:00 Invader Zim
12:30 Justice League Unlimited
01:00 Fullmetal Alchemist
01:30 Ghost in the Shell
Funkatron
09-09-2006, 01:04 AM
All I ask from Viz and AS:
When the show hits the 20's and they start the special endings(I think 13 in all), please show them all.... in order.
My favorite part of the show were those custom endings. That and Kon's guess who shorts
AkirQueen
09-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Hmm...I do believe that's Quinton Flynn as Kon, if my ears aren't deceiving me.
Rocketboy
09-09-2006, 03:18 PM
Sounds more like Micheal Lindsay to me.
v1cious
09-09-2006, 03:45 PM
i have to say so far i'm not liking Michelle Ruff as Rukia. her voice has no emotion to it all.
NahMan85
09-09-2006, 04:04 PM
Everything is fine to me. The series looks great. But I only have one question (this is going to sound stupid)...where did the name Bleach come from for the show?
Dark Fact
09-09-2006, 05:43 PM
Everything is fine to me. The series looks great. But I only have one question (this is going to sound stupid)...where did the name Bleach come from for the show?
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/a3/c2/Clorox_Regular-Bleach-resized200.gif
:)
Brent Long
09-09-2006, 06:22 PM
Hmm...I do believe that's Quinton Flynn as Kon, if my ears aren't deceiving me.
I agree that it sounds like him, but I very highly doubt it actually is.
Flynn's never done non-union dub work to my knowledge. It is possible he's just been going under a pseudonym and no one's noticed it til now, but I doubt that too.
Flynn's pretty high-up in the original animation/union video game circle, so him taking non-union work in general would be pretty strange, and he doesn't appear to be financial core; where he's allowed to do both union & non-union projects at the expense of not being allowed to hold a SAG position or vote in any of their elections.
Besides, the Bleach cast doesn't take me as being particularly ambitious, so them going out of their way to get Flynn for Kon, but only the usual suspects for everybody else would be a bit odd.
Personally, I'm thinking it's Jack Bauer (http://www.crystalacids.com/database/person/7436/jack-bauer/) going with a different voice than his typical roles.
Sounds more like Micheal Lindsay to me.
No, I can assure you it's not Lindsay.
I should take this opportunity to compliment Viz & Studiopolis for including such comprehensive cast credits. I'm sure there will never be any question as to who played any character outside the main cast.
Malex
09-09-2006, 11:22 PM
Everything is fine to me. The series looks great. But I only have one question (this is going to sound stupid)...where did the name Bleach come from for the show?
The name "Bleach" comes from the coloring of Ichigo's hair. His orange hair is really black hair that's been bleached.
Grenzer
09-10-2006, 12:08 AM
The name "Bleach" comes from the coloring of Ichigo's hair. His orange hair is really black hair that's been bleached.
What? That's not it. The series' name refers to the duty of the Soul Reapers, purifying, "Bleaching Clean" if you will, the sins of the Hollows.
Ichigo has naturally light hair by the way, a fact which comes up at certain points in the story.
NahMan85
09-10-2006, 12:43 AM
The name "Bleach" comes from the coloring of Ichigo's hair. His orange hair is really black hair that's been bleached.I actually believed that....until I read *points down*. Unless he's wrong also. :D
What? That's not it. The series' name refers to the duty of the Soul Reapers, purifying, "Bleaching Clean" if you will, the sins of the Hollows.
Ichigo has naturally light hair by the way, a fact which comes up at certain points in the story.
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/a3/c2/Clorox_Regular-Bleach-resized200.gifWhy am I not surprised. That's what I get for asking a stupid question, you get a stupid answer. :sad:
Grenzer
09-10-2006, 01:18 AM
I actually believed that....until I read *points down*. Unless he's wrong also. :D
Why am I not surprised. That's what I get for asking a stupid question, you get a stupid answer. :sad:
I believe this was mentioned in an interview with Kubo Tite (Bleach's Mangaka) sometime ago, I know it is real if that is what you are asking.
Of course the series' plot changes at a certain point and the name "Bleach" seems to become irrelevant to the story, but it is still a cool name for a show.
RiverWalker
09-10-2006, 02:32 AM
well, I'm glad they used Zanpaktou,...
but I'm not real happy with Rukia's voice so far, I'm not real particular or experienced on critiquing such things, so I'm not sure exactly how to describe what I don't like about it. it just seemed a bit off. particularly when saying things like "Kidou" and "Zanpaktou"
but on the other hand, when she did the binding spell, IMO that was pretty much perfect.
Brent Long
09-10-2006, 02:34 AM
Not to act like I'm a mod or anything, but we really should stop the discussion of things that better fit the talkback thread.
Malex
09-10-2006, 02:44 AM
What? That's not it. The series' name refers to the duty of the Soul Reapers, purifying, "Bleaching Clean" if you will, the sins of the Hollows.
Ichigo has naturally light hair by the way, a fact which comes up at certain points in the story.
I do believe that Bleach can mean purifying hollows and such, which was what I at first believe to be the only reason. However, I believe it was mentioned somewhere that Bleach was also for the hair since there is a little bit in the beginning about hair (Orihime and Ichigo). I'll concede if Kubo says that's the ONLY reason.
Nin-Nin69
09-10-2006, 04:25 AM
It's was named after something fans consumed while sitting through Leprechaun In the Hood. :p
Zach Logan
09-10-2006, 05:59 PM
As interesting as the origin of the name of the series is, it probably is a better idea to get back on topic. Thanks.
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