10th Series Of Scooby Doo Coming and....

[The Cartoon]

THEY ARE RUINING IT! FRED, VELMA, AND DAPHNIE ARE GONE! SCOOBY & SHAGGY LIVE WITH SHAGGY'S UNCLE AND THEY HAVE TO PROTECT THE SPECIAL, DELICIOUS, ELECTRONIC SCOOBY SNACKS THAT GIVE SCOOBY SUPERDOG POWERS! THE MYSTERY MACHINE IS STILL HERE, BUT IT'S HIGH TECH. AND LOOK AT THE ANIMATION::mad:

http://www.scoobydooweloveyou.com/getaclue.jpg

I think it is safe to say it is over for Scooby-Doo:crying:

[Captain Highwind]

Bah, it's all cyclical. This is just another attempt to veer away from the usual cast and freshen up the show. It's just another Pup Named Scooby Doo or 13 Ghosts. Next series will probably go back to the usual song and dance.

But really, how many times can they repeat the same old formula?

[Tobias]

Judging from that design, it looks like they're adapting Scooby's CGI look from the movie into 2D animation, and frankly it doesn't look good.

[mammy2shoesfan]

I don't like it. I'm going to pretend that I never saw any of this.

[jarjar23]

LMAO...are they NUTS!?!?! I think it's safe to say the once flowing river of Scooby Doo is now bone-dry...I give this a season.

[Wussycat]

Animation and design are different things. But apart from that, you're right.

[Uncle_Lina]

Oh god... it's horrible... Scooby looks so bland and Shaggy looks like a skater or something, it's gonna flop like a sock.

[Brainatra]

I dunno... not too keen on the animation design either (dot-eyes for Scooby and Shaggy?!), but there is precedent for this show's scenario----the early 80's series had Shag and Scoob running Shaggy's uncle Fearless' detective agency and going on various adventures, with only Scrappy around (and no Fred, Daphne or Velma)... plus, I figure anything that keeps Pokemon off of Kids WB...

[Eric B]

My goodness!
With the rabid anti-Scrappy sentiment of 5-10 years ago finally dying down, this will help further change people's minds about him being the worst thing to happen to the series!
Oh, well, the WNSD format was getting kind of worn anyway (and it was just not the old series anyway), so let's see what this is like.

Instead of redrawing Scooby as a 2D version of the CGI Scooby; I would love to see them issue CGI versions of the old episodes; with tthe backgrounds made into 3D, but the animated characters simply shadowed 2D cells. Many of the spooky settings would be nice in 3D, and some of the ghosts might be interesting in CGI.

[sdp]

give it a chance first, I admit it looks weird but hey be optimistic, I personally enjoyed pup and 13 ghosts a lot.

at least we get a new take on the character, the last cartoon more in vein to the original was a failure, they were not going to be doing that again for quite a few years again...

[Kolbar]

This show looks horrible. It won't last for long. Maybe two seasons?

BTW, I really liked "What's New Scooby-Doo?" because it was just like the original. I think its main problem was under-exposure and a bad timeslot. And I could never figure out when it was on or when new episodes were on. It kept going on and off of hiatus. Then it switched from Saturday morning to weekday afternoons. And then they did the episodes with unsolved endings, but if you tape it on TiVo it didn't catch all of it. One time, they aired the wrong ending for the previous episode.

At least, I read somewhere that Casey Kasem will return as Shaggy.

[Zechs]

Wow just when I thought it couldn't get any worse. Meh, I have been watching much T.V as it is. Besides if it's really bad it's will get canned.

[mammy2shoesfan]

I loved 13 Ghost and Pup Named but this is way to much. The character design is giving me a headache. One problem that I have with some of the cartoons for the last 10 years is ugly designs. That is just not somthing I would want to look at for 30 mintues. I THINK I might give the first ep a peep but it looks like that will be it. Scooby Doo this time I pass.

[stitchlover]

yikes --- will not be into that scooby, prefer the classics;)

[Deadman]

this will probally be a bad series. but dont worry. i bet after this 1 gets cancelled the next scooby doo series wil be like the originals.

[magicdog]

That character redesign is just wrong!!! So much so it's criminal!!! Who greenlighted that???

The only thing worse than dots for eyes are "Little Orphan Annie" eyes.


the last cartoon more in vein to the original [Scooby series] was a failure,

Yes - but that was (IMHO) due to poor writing and silly stories. Not to mention Fred got dumbed down, Daphne became a knock off of her character from the movies, Velma was still doing her thing, and Shag and Scoob weren't in the funny situations they used to be. The Scooby spoof from Johnny Bravo was way funnier - and more in character!!

When "Zombie Island" was released I loved it - and had hoped that if the series were ever revived on TV, that it would go into that direction. Sort of the original series (which was originally meant to be far more scary than it ultimately became) with a dash of "Buffy" or "Charmed" thrown in. Plus have more time for character expansion, and background info on their lives, etc. Instead we got a mediocre series with a cool updated theme song.

Not to mention forgettable visits from "celebs" like Lindsay Pagano. I guess Vitamin C wasn't available.

[The Cartoon]

That character redesign is just wrong!!! So much so it's criminal!!! Who greenlighted that???

The only thing worse than dots for eyes are "Little Orphan Annie" eyes.




Yes - but that was (IMHO) due to poor writing and silly stories. Not to mention Fred got dumbed down, Daphne became a knock off of her character from the movies, Velma was still doing her thing, and Shag and Scoob weren't in the funny situations they used to be. The Scooby spoof from Johnny Bravo was way funnier - and more in character!!

When "Zombie Island" was released I loved it - and had hoped that if the series were ever revived on TV, that it would go into that direction. Sort of the original series (which was originally meant to be far more scary than it ultimately became) with a dash of "Buffy" or "Charmed" thrown in. Plus have more time for character expansion, and background info on their lives, etc. Instead we got a mediocre series with a cool updated theme song.

Not to mention forgettable visits from "celebs" like Lindsay Pagano. I guess Vitamin C wasn't available.
Hey, are you new here? I don't remember seeing you around. I'm Scoobyrox, a huge Scooby-Doo fan as you can see. Welcome to the forums

[magicdog]

Thanks for the welcome Scoobyrox! Sorry for not introducing myself earlier.

I happened to have found the forums by accident (in fact I found the website by accident!!) and am a big fan of SD. I prefer the earliest version of the series (1969-71) but I enjoyed the show up to 1974 when the guest stars appeared. Then I take a big jump to the "Zombie Island" DVD!!

[The Cartoon]

Thanks for the welcome Scoobyrox! Sorry for not introducing myself earlier.

I happened to have found the forums by accident (in fact I found the website by accident!!) and am a big fan of SD. I prefer the earliest version of the series (1969-71) but I enjoyed the show up to 1974 when the guest stars appeared. Then I take a big jump to the "Zombie Island" DVD!!
Awesome, I found the board by accident too. I was looking for Sccoby-Doo movies, I found this. I liked the original series the best too. It's cool to find another Scooby-Doo fan:D Can you believe what there doing to the 10th Series:confused:

[magicdog]

Scooby has been through so many incarnations - it's amazing how the characters have so much holding power. Not to mention all the toons the formula (group of vastly different teens and their wacky pet/s) that followed it.

[The Cartoon]

Scooby has been through so many incarnations - it's amazing how the characters have so much holding power. Not to mention all the toons the formula (group of vastly different teens and their wacky pet/s) that followed it.
Yeah, this series is probably just a bad one. Hopefully the next one will be better.

[magicdog]

Yeah, this series is probably just a bad one. Hopefully the next one will be better.


I hope after this disaster there WILL be a next series. Meanwhile, there's always the happy memories on DVD right?

[The Cartoon]

I hope after this disaster there WILL be a next series. Meanwhile, there's always the happy memories on DVD right?
Right:D

[DaphHime]

Yes - but that was (IMHO) due to poor writing and silly stories. Not to mention Fred got dumbed down, Daphne became a knock off of her character from the movies, Velma was still doing her thing, and Shag and Scoob weren't in the funny situations they used to be. The Scooby spoof from Johnny Bravo was way funnier - and more in character!!

When "Zombie Island" was released I loved it - and had hoped that if the series were ever revived on TV, that it would go into that direction. Sort of the original series (which was originally meant to be far more scary than it ultimately became) with a dash of "Buffy" or "Charmed" thrown in. Plus have more time for character expansion, and background info on their lives, etc. Instead we got a mediocre series with a cool updated theme song.

Not to mention forgettable visits from "celebs" like Lindsay Pagano. I guess Vitamin C wasn't available.

I actually liked Fred's character in "What's New?". Gave him some personality and made him just as funny, if not funnier, than Shaggy and Scooby. Yes Fred is my favorite character so I'm baised. :p Though I did miss his take-charge adittude that he had in "Where are you?" and beyond. Besides it's nice to see the leader goof off evey once and awhile.

I would love a series in the style/format of Zombie Island as well. The animation, story, and artwork in that was just wonderful. What with the anime and "Buffy" craze I'm surprised this hasn't happend yet. Something dark that touches on the lives of the characters would be great. Of corse the lack of background is why the fandom is rife with fanfics that tries to do that.

Even something that redoes the 13 Ghosts premise whould be nice. I liked the story it was following but the characters were kinda eh. Bring back Fred and Velma and ditch Scrappy. Film Flamm I can take or leave. Though it would be hard to find someone good enough to to VonGougle's voice since Vincent Price has passed. :(

[Eric B]

Isn't What's New the same basic animation and style as Zombie Island? The difference is, even Shaggy had a new voice actor, and Scooby sounded worse, and BJ Ward's Velma was just ehh. (Cohn is much better). That makes What's New far better, but otherwise, they look pretty much the same, with the WB style animation and music.

I say what we/ve been missing is a good old fashioned haunted house mystery like the first four seasons.

[SAMaine]

Scooby-Doo survived Scrappy-Doo. It' can survive ANYTHING!

My Proposed name for this series

"Scooby-Doo, What the **** is Wrong with You?!"

[magicdog]

The difference is, even Shaggy had a new voice actor, and Scooby sounded worse, and BJ Ward's Velma was just ehh. (Cohn is much better).


BJ Ward was OK, but I agree Mindy Cohen is a good fit for the Velma character (absolutely hated the voice actress who did her voice from 1976 onwards!!). Ironically the original voices of Velma (Nicole Jaffe) and Daphne (Heather North) reprised their roles for the movies, "Monster of Mexico" & "Legend of the Vampire". A new voice had to be found for Scooby since Don Messick had passed on and apparently no one else was willing. Shaggy is another story. I remember the guy who voiced Shaggy and Scooby for "Zombie Island" (Scott Innes) mentioned in an interview he wasn't expecting to have to perform Shaggy's role since Casey Kasem was the definitive Shaggy. Kasem did appear for several subsequent movies and the last series.



Isn't What's New the same basic animation and style as Zombie Island?


Not even close.



I actually liked Fred's character in "What's New?". Gave him some personality and made him just as funny, if not funnier, than Shaggy and Scooby. Yes Fred is my favorite character so I'm baised. :p Though I did miss his take-charge adittude that he had in "Where are you?" and beyond. Besides it's nice to see the leader goof off evey once and awhile



Fred was always a fave of mine too - when I was in single digits, he was one of my first crushes!! I don't mind if his character could be wrong or "goof up" once in a while but the last series really made him pretty lame (only slightly less so than the kiddie incarnation of him from "A Pup Named Scooby Doo") and as you mentioned his lack of his take charge attitude was even more of a weakness. Fred wasn't supposed to be "funny" - that was Shag & Scoob's job.



I say what we/ve been missing is a good old fashioned haunted house mystery like the first four seasons.

Trouble is that one's been done to death. People are harder to scare/fool these days. That's why I enjoyed "Zombie Island" so much - it went far away from the parameters of the previous shows to have the gang deal with real monsters and the paranormal .


"Scooby-Doo, What the **** is Wrong with You?!"

Love it !!!

[Eric B]

Trouble is that one's been done to death. But it's been over 30 years since it was last done well. You had it a few times in the late 70's, but most of those were like the current stuff where they are around the world, and they tried to come up with all sorts of new villains. The best Scooby's took place in haunted stateside houses with secret passages bebind bookcases, and simpler glowing apparitions. (one of the What's new seemed to come close to that--a second season episode with some confederate ghosts or something like that. I'll have to watch that again; though once again, the sound and animation kills it). People are harder to scare/fool these days. That's why I enjoyed "Zombie Island" so much - it went far away from the parameters of the previous shows to have the gang deal with real monsters and the paranormal .That had been done on Scooby before too. Even as far back as the Jeannie episode, which was in the classic era.

[Megaman X]

Cant they just let Scooby doo die? LET IT REST IN PIECE! Man... there killing scooby doo....wait I think they just killed it..

[jarjar23]

I saw a commercial for it, and it seems to have a Catscratch/Richie Rich type plot. They inherited all this money, living in a mansion, and......what? What is this show going to be about?! "Problems" in the mansion?

It would make things SO MUCH moreinteresting if they lived in a HAUNTED MANSION! :eek:

[Steve Carras]

This show looks horrible. It won't last for long. Maybe two seasons?

BTW, I really liked "What's New Scooby-Doo?" because it was just like the original. I think its main problem was under-exposure and a bad timeslot. And I could never figure out when it was on or when new episodes were on. It kept going on and off of hiatus. Then it switched from Saturday morning to weekday afternoons. And then they did the episodes with unsolved endings, but if you tape it on TiVo it didn't catch all of it. One time, they aired the wrong ending for the previous episode.

At least, I read somewhere that Casey Kasem will return as Shaggy.

Just like the original...? MANY Scooby Doo fans can;'t be wrong (about it being NOT like the original..) as I said in my post re:the show (see above) topic the "Animaniacs" and "Tiny Toons Adven tures" scoring crew and WB sound effects guys worked on it,from what I've read around on the internet, and that made it sound like a Warner Bros.type cartoon ("Arabian Nights" from 1994 being like this.Many 'Scooby-Doo" fans said as much.You're the first IMO IIRC to recall it BEING like the original....at least not to mention the big exception I mentioned..one poster who used to post here, "Danny DeCosta" if he's still around today, said on the defunct version of the Termite Terrace board that was a sister forum (NOT GAC - its predecessor--posters common to both post here such as Jon Cooke and others) that he HATED "What's New, Scooby Doo"," that it wasn't audio-wise at least like a SD show at all. I haven't seen it much but from I have some HB sound effects were in there..)

Warner studios has taken over that franchsie, making it pretty much theirs. ...The voice cast (including guests from Rip Taylor and possibly Janet Waldo and June Foray from earlier ages, but don't hold me to it,as well as Paul Winchell who passed last year) includes some from 1960s HB , but I don't stick around much, but I can't argue with many of the folks here if they like it and I haven't made any opniuons here, but I doiubt the SOUNDTRACK of "What's New" will make many beleve it's a "Scooby-Doo" they're watching,even fans have noted otherwise.Just Google "What's New Scooby Doo" & "Animaniacs". And I have NOT written anything mentioned there, so don't get upset because of of what I wrote..:D)

[magicdog]

But it's been over 30 years since it was last fone well. You had it a few times in the late 70's, but most of those were like the current stuff where they are around the world, and they tried to come up with all sorts of new villains. The best Scooby's took place in haunted stateside houses with secret passages bebind bookcases, and simpler glowing apparitions.

Let me put it this way - there are very few reasons why a person would want to scare and keep snoopers away from an illegal enterprise these days. There's only a handful I can think of:


Drug smuggling ring
Counterfeiting
Weapons smuggling
Modern day piracyEverything else would pale by comparison and not be worth the effort - or worse - draw attention to the operation because people (and the media) LOVE to check out rumors of strange events happening somewhere.

Even in the original series, many of the reasons people donned their scary costumes were often a bit of a stretch but it was deux ex machina. It was needed to make the show what it was. It would be nice if a new series had taken a new direction and try to challenge the gang by working on real monsters and the paranormal. In "Zombie Island", the gang tried to come up with their usual therories that was part of their old detective work, but found themselves in over their heads when the monsters were real. Everything was taken to the next level and that would have been better for the characters as well as make new storylines for fans. Sure, we could have a few eps where it wasn't the case, but it could have taken the show to new heights.




I saw a commercial for [the latest Scooby series], and it seems to have a Catscratch/Richie Rich type plot. They inherited all this money, living in a mansion, and......what? What is this show going to be about?! "Problems" in the mansion?

This is from TV.com:


Shaggy and his Great Dane Scooby-Doo, are back on the trail solving mysteries with the help of new nano-technology infused Scooby Snacks. The new Scooby Snacks afford our canine hero special skills like the ability to fly . Shaggy and Scooby-Doo must keep the secret of the Scooby Snacks safe from those who want them for evil purposes.

This from Wikipedia:

Shaggy and Scooby Doo continue to solve mysteries, although they now live in Shaggy's Uncle Albert's mansion. The Mystery Machine is still around, with the new addition to transform into a different mode of transportation. This new feature is controlled by a remote. Scooby Sncks return as well, and they now contain nano technology that is able to give Scooby different abilites and transformations, which include Scooby to be able to fly, become a towering robot, and turn himself into a giant magnet. These new Scooby Snacks are supposed to be top-secret, and they could draw in villains who want them for their own purposes, so Shaggy and Scooby must protect them from evil.

Kill me NOW!!!

[Eric B]

It would be nice if a new series had taken a new direction and try to challenge the gang by working on real monsters and the paranormal. In "Zombie Island", the gang tried to come up with their usual therories that was part of their old detective work, but found themselves in over their heads when the monsters were real. Everything was taken to the next level and that would have been better for the characters as well as make new storylines for fans.13 Ghosts was a good concept for real monsters/paranormal. That should have been done with thr whole gang, and I would say they could try to revive it now, but once again, with the modern style sound and animation, it wouldn't be as good, but if you like movies such as Zombie Island, you would probably be happy with it.

[Cartoons90]

I guess Scooby is too marketable for his legacy's own good.

[Eric B]

Looking at further descriptions, the Mystery Machine will have the ability to change into other vehicles. So now, they're ripping off Chan Clan, which itself was yet another takeoff of Scooby!

[magicdog]

Not just the Chan Clan (which actually might make a good movie/TV toon revival if done right), but Hong Kong Phooey as well.

[tb4000]

As rich as the Hanna Barbera legacy was, we all know it was just one big inbreeding fest.

[The Cartoon]

The rest of the gang makes ocassional appearences. Here is the full gang photo:

http://www.newsarama.com/AniShorts/scooby_and_gangat73dpi.jpg

[Tobias]

Yeah, they're definately using the live action counterparts as models for this cartoon.

[Captain Highwind]

At least, I read somewhere that Casey Kasem will return as Shaggy.

After hearing a trailer for it this morning, it sounds like Scott Menville (Robin, Teen Titans) is voicing Shaggy.

[Wussycat]

Daphne looks okay, but the rest suck.

[Hockey Mask]

The rest of the gang makes ocassional appearences. Here is the full gang photo:

http://www.newsarama.com/AniShorts/scooby_and_gangat73dpi.jpg

What the he!! is that?

[Tobias]

What the he!! is that?

It's the show using the live action counterparts as models for the designs.

[Road Runner]

Let's just hope Japan doesn't grab hold of Scooby-NOTHING could be worse than a Scooby Doo anime series *budoom* :yawn:

[Kid Goku]

I saw the preview for this.. I couldn't say I was impressed but doing a series based on Scooby/Shaggy, the two more popular characters for the modern day audience is a potential goldmine. I hope they know what they're doing here.

[Eric B]

I just recently saw the WNSD episode about the camp, and it was basically Shaggy and Scooby only, with a bunch of young kids, who sort of "replaced" Fred and the Girls.
Maybe that was a sort of anticedent to this new series.