Adultswim: Greatest Hour of Television [Archive]

William C. Maune

06-14-2006, 02:06 AM

Considering there aren't that many (if really any) unaquired adult animation series out there, and considering it takes time to make new series, it is either run Futurama/Oblonbs/Mission Hill/etc. again or acquire things like Pee Wee's Playhouse. What would you rather we celebrate?

I'm just glad to see Mission Hill finally getting a timeslot this early.

Discloner

06-14-2006, 03:07 PM

I'm not sure why we're celebrating Adult Swim airing Oblongs for the hundredth time and Futurama for the one thousandth and tenth time...Futurama's greatness deserves all the praise it can get. The Oblongs isn't nearly as terrible as many claim (though I'll stop short of saying it's great) and is surprisingly more fun, for atleast me, to watch then another Family Guy episode (Family Guy in general has very little re-watchability).

Rabi~en~Rose

06-14-2006, 04:29 PM

seasons 2 & 3 of Futurama + Oblongs was a great hour

any Futurama + Mission Hill is a letdown :(

The Fullmetal

06-14-2006, 04:34 PM

You know. For the last few months I was thinking, "wow, Adultswim pairing Futurama and the Oblongs together--fantastic show paired with decent show I'm warming up to? Awesome!"

But this week marks a new era. If Home Movies was still on at 12 I'd maybe not remember how awful the block is as a whole.
You've got to be kidding me. You're saying that everything on AS besides Home Movies and The Oblongs is awful? Wow, you have awful taste in television shows. I'm sure 95% of the Toon Zone population would agree with me here. Plus, both shows failed and are in constant reruns. I suppose you go crazy over Tom Goes to the Mayor, which, as everyone already knows, is so much better than Family Guy. :shrug:

And you'd think that someone who loves the shows so much would buy them on DVD.

Your statement = :lol:

Discloner

06-14-2006, 05:25 PM

You've got to be kidding me. You're saying that everything on AS besides Home Movies and The Oblongs is awful? Wow, you have awful taste in television shows. I'm sure 95% of the Toon Zone population would agree with me here. Because god-forbid someone doesn't like the things you like; I'm sure they must be wrong! Please point out to me where he said everything else on AS is awful, because all I'm seeing is a statement about AS overall being pretty bad...

Which, I've seen most of posters on this board state at one point or another.

Plus, both shows failed and are in constant reruns. Have you ever watched an adult cartoon on UPN in your life? I hardly think those two shows in particular being cancelled has anything to do with their quality or enjoyability. If that were the case, atleast 50% of this board would not want Case Closed back on the air (after all, it failed....so it must be bad, right?).

I suppose you go crazy over Tom Goes to the Mayor, which, as everyone already knows, is so much better than Family Guy. :shrug:

And you'd think that someone who loves the shows so much would buy them on DVD. Oddly enough I'd take Tom Goes to the Mayor anyday over new Family Guy. The prior is far more well put-together, while the latter just continues to make me wish it had stayed dead.

As for the DVD thing, couldn't you say the same thing to all the Anime people complaining whenever one of their precious shows gets shafted on AS?

Mugen

06-14-2006, 06:26 PM

You've got to be kidding me. You're saying that everything on AS besides Home Movies and The Oblongs is awful? Wow, you have awful taste in television shows. I'm sure 95% of the Toon Zone population would agree with me here. Plus, both shows failed and are in constant reruns. I suppose you go crazy over Tom Goes to the Mayor, which, as everyone already knows, is so much better than Family Guy. :shrug:

And you'd think that someone who loves the shows so much would buy them on DVD.

Your statement = :lol:

Dude it's his opinion. Just respect it and move on. We don't attack you're opinions even though we could easily do that.

The Fullmetal

06-14-2006, 07:30 PM

Please point out to me where he said everything else on AS is awful, because all I'm seeing is a statement about AS overall being pretty bad...
Okay:

If Home Movies was still on at 12 I'd maybe not remember how awful the block is as a whole.
Good enough for you?

Which, I've seen most of posters on this board state at one point or another.
Really? Provide proof.

Oddly enough I'd take Tom Goes to the Mayor anyday over new Family Guy. The prior is far more well put-together, while the latter just continues to make me wish it had stayed dead.
"Oddly enough," indeed. You know how Tom is made? By taking photos of the "actors," slapping them on top of some backgrounds and making jokes about getting drunk and acting like morons (like those commercials where they hump each other). Sure, Family Guy does the same sort of thing, but it at least manages to be funny.

RD!

06-14-2006, 08:27 PM

I also like the Brak Show.

Scythemantis

06-14-2006, 09:03 PM

Calling the block awful "overall" or "in general" is not at all the same as calling every show on it bad. I don't see how anyone can get that confused.

KuwabaraTheMan

06-14-2006, 09:13 PM

Futurama + Mission Hill + Family Guy is awesomeness.

I finally don't have to turn the TV off after Futurama ends.

Neo Ultra Mike

06-14-2006, 09:45 PM

The 10:30-12 spot is not only fairly enjoyable in general (I had sworn not to watch anymore Futurama reruns after seeing the last cycle of them for the 12th time and sitll I'm watching them whenever I see them due to how good the show is) it also is probably highly rated. Although it will be interesting to see how Pee Wee's Playhouse does there (I'd rather have Home Movies in the 11PM slot but that's proven to be a failure time and again. At least it's better then overplaying Mission Hill or the Oblongs though. I think both shows are at least decent, but with 13 eps you really can't run them for months on end without repeating them to near death).

Aquadementia

06-15-2006, 12:54 AM

The Oblongs don't get that much respect.
I loved the pilot with Milo's alien girlfriend, who vaporizes herself at the end and he's poking the ashes.
And I like the cast. The whole lot of them.
I actually liked Oblongs less as it went along and I don't care to watch it at this juncture. It was decent for about one run.

Now if Angus Oblong had full creative control, then we'd have something.
That always made me wonder.

I know Angus Oblong didn't like what they did with the show, but to tell the truth it may have ended up being a more watchable program.

Considering the network it was made for, I think they did a pretty good job adapting his characters for a series.
It's hard to imagine a raw Angus Oblong production getting through.

It's to Adult Swims credit that they allow more creative control, so if it was one of theirs, it would have a vary different show.
But even by Adult Swim standards, it may end up too out there.

RD!

06-15-2006, 01:11 AM

At least it's better then overplaying Mission Hill or the Oblongs though. I think both shows are at least decent, but with 13 eps you really can't run them for months on end without repeating them to near death).Oh I agree. AS needs to play around a little more with roatating shows throughout its weekday like Mission Hill, Oblongs, Venture and Moral Orel on different days of the week.. though I can understand that as a block searching for something else besides Family Guy to really stick to an audience consistancy throughout the week is probably for the best.

The Landstander

06-15-2006, 01:45 AM

I know Angus Oblong didn't like what they did with the show, but to tell the truth it may have ended up being a more watchable program.

Considering the network it was made for, I think they did a pretty good job adapting his characters for a series.
It's hard to imagine a raw Angus Oblong production getting through.That's true from a business/realistic perspective but I think something done entirely by him would be...well, interesting, at the least.

Would most people watch clowns cutting themselves and misshapen children eating rats slowly? Probably not. And I don't know if I would. But,

I've somehow managed to work myself into a position where I don't know what my point is so I'm just ending this post now. I guess I'm saying it would be innovative and original at least, as opposed to the odd generic quality of the Oblongs.

Yeah, I'll go with that.

The Myst

06-15-2006, 01:52 AM

Personally, I have no knowledge of the real Angus Oblong stuff, just the TV show so I can't image what it would be like.

RD!

06-15-2006, 02:06 AM

I guess I'm saying it would be innovative and original at least, as opposed to the odd generic quality of the Oblongs.
I hope Adultswim picks up Mothlight.

Discloner

06-15-2006, 07:15 PM

Personally, I have no knowledge of the real Angus Oblong stuff, just the TV show so I can't image what it would be like.http://www.randomhouse.com/rhpg/promos/creepysusie/
Fear and enjoy it.

And to quote his child-hood reflection:
“Mother gave birth like a sprinkler, and referred to the eight of us that she kept as 'her little keepers.’ The non-keepers; the other Humperdink siblings, are spread everywhere we went. It was our job as Mother's kids to help her to leave her babies on random doorsteps in nearly every town we traveled through in the U.S. & Canada. Setting down a baby & running back to the car is one of my earliest childhood memories,” claims Oblong.

And if your mind hasn't imploded yet-
http://www.angusoblong.net/galleryindex.html

Just be forwarned that there's some uh....mature stuff on there.

Daikun

06-15-2006, 07:21 PM

I must ask: Wasn't AS going to take over the 10 P.M. spot in June?

Who said what now?

According to this, (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=167790) AS won't be expanding for a looooooong time now.

Master Moron

06-17-2006, 12:12 AM

Futurama's greatness deserves all the praise it can get. The Oblongs isn't nearly as terrible as many claim (though I'll stop short of saying it's great) and is surprisingly more fun, for atleast me, to watch then another Family Guy episode (Family Guy in general has very little re-watchability).

Yes, but Family Guy is still producing new episodes. Futurama and Oblongs aren't.

Discloner

06-17-2006, 10:29 PM

Yes, but Family Guy is still producing new episodes. Futurama and Oblongs aren't.I don't understand your point. Because those two shows aren't currently producing new episodes means I should stop watching them...or enjoying them?

Or rather, because Family Guy is still producing new episodes means it's good?

Master Moron

06-18-2006, 07:56 PM

I don't understand your point. Because those two shows aren't currently producing new episodes means I should stop watching them...or enjoying them?

Or rather, because Family Guy is still producing new episodes means it's good?

No, it means that it's the same episodes cycling over and over again. For Oblongs there are about 15 or so episodes that will be the only episodes ever played. If you've watched three weeks of Oblongs episodes, you've seen every episode that will ever be made. There's really no point in watching more. For Futurama there are about 100 or so episodes. Those are the only episodes that will ever be played. It gets tiring to see the same episodes over and over again. For Family Guy the amount of episodes that will get played on Adult Swim is not determinable because the series is still in production.

And actually, as long as you mentioned it, I usually do stop watching a show after I've seen every episode. I really don't see any point in watching an episode more than once, unless I'm just really bored.

RD!

06-18-2006, 08:36 PM

You're a weirdo.

Fafhrd

06-18-2006, 09:06 PM

While I do like The Oblongs [snip]Personally, I think that Australian TV treated the Oblongs the proper way (they cancelled the show in the middle of the first episode).

Discloner

06-18-2006, 10:52 PM

It gets tiring to see the same episodes over and over again. For Family Guy the amount of episodes that will get played on Adult Swim is not determinable because the series is still in production.I disagree. As I said in one of my earlier posts in this thread (atleast I think it was in this thread), I find reruns of great shows better then new episodes of ok shows.

I've seen every episode of Futurama, but I'm still far more entertained by it then any new episode of Family Guy. Same for Mission Hill. Same for Home Movies, yadda yadda.

This is the reason people buy DVDs...

Master Moron

06-18-2006, 11:29 PM

I disagree. As I said in one of my earlier posts in this thread (atleast I think it was in this thread), I find reruns of great shows better then new episodes of ok shows.

I've seen every episode of Futurama, but I'm still far more entertained by it then any new episode of Family Guy. Same for Mission Hill. Same for Home Movies, yadda yadda.

This is the reason people buy DVDs...

Well, then, why should Adult Swim ever bother airing new shows, if they can rerun the same old stuff time and time again? And I really don't see why you would want to watch a show you've already seen. I mean, don't you have better things to do with your time? Like...discuss this with me on a message board?

Discloner

06-19-2006, 10:08 PM

Well, then, why should Adult Swim ever bother airing new shows, if they can rerun the same old stuff time and time again? And I really don't see why you would want to watch a show you've already seen. I mean, don't you have better things to do with your time? Like...discuss this with me on a message board?I'm sitting here discussing with you why I enjoy rewatching shows in a thread about how an hour of animation is fantastic. If course I have nothing better to do at 10:30 on a weekday evening. A lot of us don't.

As for rewatching stuff. Some things you just appreciate...

I've eaten Peanut Butter and Jelly before, does that mean I shouldn't eat it again? More-so if I actually liked Peanut Butter and Jelly? I mean, I don't need to eat PBJ to live, I could eat other foods... Same kinda concept.

Master Moron

06-19-2006, 10:18 PM

I'm sitting here discussing with you why I enjoy rewatching shows in a thread about how an hour of animation is fantastic. If course I have nothing better to do at 10:30 on a weekday evening. A lot of us don't.

As for rewatching stuff. Some things you just appreciate...

I've eaten Peanut Butter and Jelly before, does that mean I shouldn't eat it again? More-so if I actually liked Peanut Butter and Jelly? I mean, I don't need to eat PBJ to live, I could eat other foods... Same kinda concept.

Well, it depends. If you're eating artificial stuff like Skippy and Jiff, then no, you shouldn't be eating it, because that stuff replaces the peanut oil with hydrogenated oil. All that trans fat is really bad for you. However, if you're eating natural peanut butter like Smuckers or Teddy then it has peanut oil in it, which is good for you. Of course I'd also have to know what kind of jelly you're eating. As most jelly contains a lot of corn syrup, which is bad for you. However, it is possible to buy jelly that doesn't contain corn syrup.

Discloner

06-19-2006, 10:32 PM

Well, it depends. If you're eating artificial stuff like Skippy and Jiff, then no, you shouldn't be eating it, because that stuff replaces the peanut oil with hydrogenated oil. All that trans fat is really bad for you. However, if you're eating natural peanut butter like Smuckers or Teddy then it has peanut oil in it, which is good for you. Of course I'd also have to know what kind of jelly you're eating. As most jelly contains a lot of corn syrup, which is bad for you. However, it is possible to buy jelly that doesn't contain corn syrup.You get 3 extra points for countering in a way I never expected.

The Landstander

06-20-2006, 12:27 AM

Is Peter Pan brand good? That's the type I like.

RD!

06-20-2006, 01:17 AM

Then why the hell are you asking.

ninja edit: anyone else think orange marmelade is gross?

Speedy Boris

06-20-2006, 02:03 PM

I haven't watched Mission Hill in a while but I watched last night. Man, I had forgotten how good this show is. The same kind of solid character types, non-forced character development, and character-driven humor (STOP SAYING 'CHARACTER'!!!) that made Bill & Josh's two years as executive producers on The Simpsons so good.

Master Moron

06-21-2006, 02:21 AM

Is Peter Pan brand good? That's the type I like.

Nah, Peter Pan has hydrogenated oil just like JIF and Skippy. Consuming trans fat will prevent your body from burning off fat.

Then why the hell are you asking.

ninja edit: anyone else think orange marmelade is gross?

I hate the orange rinds. I mean, really, who thought it was a good idea to throw orange rinds in there? I mean, really, does anyone ever actually eat the rind when they're eating an orange? I bet the orange rind has fiber in though, but I've never cared enough to do research on it. I've heard you can buy orange marmalade without the orange rind, but I've never seen it anywhere.

JCorey3rd

06-21-2006, 10:17 AM

The thing is that with Oblongs, Mission Hill, Home Movies and Futurama and even PeeWee's Playhouse is that if you really like them, you can buy every episode on DVDs and not have to stay up so late or deal with the bug in the corner.

William C. Maune

06-21-2006, 12:38 PM

JCorey3rd

06-21-2006, 06:25 PM

That costs money though.

and cable TV is free?

You can grab the complete Mission Hill and Oblongs for about $20 each. Deepdiscountdvd has all 4 of the Home Movies boxsets for $20.93. What is that - six beers with tip?

I'm going to guess that a nice portion of Adult Swim's viewing audience has bought a few DVDs over the last year. Am I supposed to believe that most of the people watching are at rescue missions? If people really like these shows, cough up some plasma for the discs.

you can get these DVDs from netflix if you don't want to buy them.

Master Moron

06-22-2006, 01:27 AM

and cable TV is free?

Yeah, actually it is. It's included in my rent bill.

You can grab the complete Mission Hill and Oblongs for about $20 each. Deepdiscountdvd has all 4 of the Home Movies boxsets for $20.93. What is that - six beers with tip?

Give up beer for Home Movies? Blasphemy. What kind of beer are you buying that's 20 dollars for 6 anyhow? I guess if you're tipping the bartender everytime that kind of makes sense. But, I usually only tip every other beer. The bartenders around here suck and don't deserve any better. But, I don't drink too much beer nowadays anyway. Too many empty calories. Of course, that really makes this whole response rather pointless doesn't it?

William C. Maune

06-22-2006, 01:33 AM

and cable TV is free?

Comparatively. Like Master Moron, my cable is included in my rent. But let's say it wasn't. Say it was $50 a month. I could take that money and instead by those DVDs. However, few people are going to give up cable so that they have extra money to buy DVDs. Instead, the cost of DVDs will be in addition to the cost of cable. Plus, paying for cable I can watch all of those shows, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

JCorey3rd

06-22-2006, 11:13 AM

Comparatively. Like Master Moron, my cable is included in my rent. But let's say it wasn't. Say it was $50 a month. I could take that money and instead by those DVDs. However, few people are going to give up cable so that they have extra money to buy DVDs. Instead, the cost of DVDs will be in addition to the cost of cable. Plus, paying for cable I can watch all of those shows, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

It's $20 a set - if you find it at the right place. We're not talking bottles of Cristal. And I'm not saying that you should cut your cable and just spend that money on DVDs for these few shows. When I was in college, I could have just been happy waiting for the radio to play a cut off Dark Side of the Moon, but I bought the record anyway (plus it came with 2 posters and stickers so i could have a cool room). And I'm guessing that if I was in college today and I enjoyed a show like Mission Hill, I'd be prone to picking up the DVDs (not like there's anything worth buying at the record store).

We're discussing shows that you can program at home on your DVD player because they are limited runs that are out on DVD. If you really like these shows, you can buy them and watch them whenever. I'm not over excited at Pee Wee's Playhouse coming to Adult Swim because it's been on my DVD shelf for over a year. I got a buzz out of seeing Mr. T, Chuck Norris and Super Globetrotters because they aren't on DVD - (unless I record them).

Sure it costs a little money to buy DVDs, but a complete collection of even the "long" runs of Futurama and Home Movies will cost you less than the first season of X-Files when it came out.