View Full Version : C&C - InuYasha - "The Single Arrow of Chaos" [6/6]
It's the night of the devil! Everybody run and hide!
NahMan85
06-06-2006, 11:45 PM
Well 6/6/6...hmmmmmm...nope don't see why a bunch of numbers should scare me. (Yeah I know what it actually means, I have read the bible believe it or not)
Master Moron
06-07-2006, 12:59 AM
Why aren't they allowed to kill off any main characters in this show? I mean, if they're going to bring Kikyu back to life, they should at least kill off Shippo.
Captain Highwind
06-07-2006, 01:01 AM
Man, Inuyasha killed the horse? It hasn't even been 10 episodes yet!
And could it be? ...Kikyo ver. 3.0?
Naraku-Sama
06-07-2006, 01:27 AM
Why aren't they allowed to kill off any main characters in this show? I mean, if they're going to bring Kikyu back to life, they should at least kill off Shippo.
I agree. Ain't that a shame?!
Aww, I was expecting more groaners that Kikyo's still alive.
Game Freak 4
06-07-2006, 01:47 AM
More groaners? How many Kikyo haters are there?
Naraku-Sama
06-07-2006, 02:16 AM
More groaners? How many Kikyo haters are there?
Like me, others must have expected this-- heck, from the moment she " died " I have been doubtful and paranoid:lol:
Hm, Kikyou is probably the second most hated Inu-Yasha character, judging by what I have read and seen...I used to believe that she is hated more than Naraku and such, but since there are so many pathetic Kikyou-support forums / websites ( seriously..Some people act as if she is an endangered animal or something-- she is JUST a cartoon character! ) and " Kikyou Defenders " in general, I assume that she is probably the 2nd or 3rd most-hated / disliked Inu-Yasha character...I do believe that hating her simply because she " interferes " with Kagome & Inu-Yasha's relationship is not a very good reason to dislike her for, because there are many more FAR better reasons to dislike her ( like her extreme arrogance, disgusting fake Zombie-body, her attitude, self-pity, selfishness, etc ), in my opinion.
Peace
I think one of the other reasons she's so disliked is because she's the most stubbornly stagnant characters in the show. The main core may not change that much, but they're all happy and interact together. Fluffy may not change, but he has Jaken and Rin to interact with. Kikyo is all by herself, full of hate, and her motives are muddled. It's hard to tell what her next move is.
That, and Kikyo just gives off this negative vibe that makes you want to not like her.
Timmay
06-07-2006, 02:27 AM
Remove Kikyou and they'll have no choice but to resolve things. Hence why she just keeps coming back.
Naraku-Sama
06-07-2006, 04:08 AM
I think one of the other reasons she's so disliked is because she's the most stubbornly stagnant characters in the show. The main core may not change that much, but they're all happy and interact together. Fluffy may not change, but he has Jaken and Rin to interact with. Kikyo is all by herself, full of hate, and her motives are muddled. It's hard to tell what her next move is.
That, and Kikyo just gives off this negative vibe that makes you want to not like her.I agree:)
What?! Inu-Yasha called Hakudoushi ugly? Wow, he is more immature than I thought...To him, everyone who he hates is either filthy, smelly and ugly even if they look and smell better than he does^_^
I like " Brand New World ", but to me, AS slightly messed it up, because it was off-key or whatever...this is how it is suppose to play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2OvbYX43BM
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I see...Kagura certainly is a dirty, selfish traitor...I know that she is merely a fictional character, but I tend to get annoyed by overly selfish people and traitors...Hakudoushi did nothing to her at first, yet she tried to kill him? I suppose family means nothing to her...Even Naraku does not seem to be that cruel towards his so-called " family " ( he gave her mercy and second changes-- unfortunately )...She deserves whatever suffering she gets, in my opinion.
R.I.P Entei....
The Myst
06-07-2006, 04:38 AM
Another week, still no character development. If there was anything else in this timeslot, I'd be watching it.
tb4000
06-07-2006, 09:57 AM
PETA will be all over this ep. for that Entei death.
Spastic Minnow
06-07-2006, 12:06 PM
Once again despairing that this show may never end I had to check ANN to see how many episodes are left... only 18 more! The end is finally in sight. Even if we all do know it ends prematuraly in relation to the end of the manga, I just want to see an end of some sort and a start of reconcilations.
But I liked this episode alright for a couple reasons, Inuyasha actually used strategy and remembered that he has more than one attack, using both the red tetsiaga and the backlash wave! Although when he was defending the villagers on the path he did seem to forget that he has an attack to dispel 100 demons at a time instead of just punching a few at a time. the show is so frusting sometimes.
Patches
06-07-2006, 12:36 PM
I see...Kagura certainly is a dirty, selfish traitor...I know that she is merely a fictional character, but I tend to get annoyed by overly selfish people and traitors...Hakudoushi did nothing to her at first, yet she tried to kill him? I suppose family means nothing to her...Even Naraku does not seem to be that cruel towards his so-called " family " ( he gave her mercy and second changes-- unfortunately )...She deserves whatever suffering she gets, in my opinion.
Oh man, if oooooonly the anime had continued through with what's happened in the manga beyond it. I'm sure a lot of the people spouting hate about Kikyou and Kagura would choke on their words.
Although when he was defending the villagers on
the path he did seem to forget that he has an attack to dispel 100 demons at a time instead of just punching a few at a time. the show is so frusting sometimes.
That attack would've killed the humans as well.
I see...Kagura certainly is a dirty, selfish traitor...I know that she is merely a fictional character, but I tend to get annoyed by overly selfish people and traitors...Hakudoushi did nothing to her at first, yet she tried to kill him? I suppose family means nothing to her...Even Naraku does not seem to be that cruel towards his so-called " family " ( he gave her mercy and second changes-- unfortunately )...She deserves whatever suffering she gets, in my opinion.
Well, she just wants to be free to live her own life. Everybody else wants her to stay, so that's why she wants to kill them all (sans Naraku, obviously).
Why the hell Naraku would make an incarnation of himself that he has to torture in order to ensure her obidience hasn't been brought up, though. I can understand Munno, since he was just Naraku's human side, but why the hell did Naraku make Kagura tratiorous like that?
CaptainRed
06-07-2006, 01:34 PM
Why aren't they allowed to kill off any main characters in this show? I mean, if they're going to bring Kikyu back to life, they should at least kill off Shippo.
I'll see your Shippo, and raise you Miroku and two characters to be named later.
Man, Inuyasha killed the horse? It hasn't even been 10 episodes yet!
I'm glad. That horse was annoying.
Of course, that logic has dire implications for much of the cast...
Remove Kikyou and they'll have no choice but to resolve things. Hence why she just keeps coming back.
They've had no choice but to resolve many things at many times over the course of this show, and yet every time they have chosen not to resolve anything.
Oh, and on a Kikyou comeback? Not surprised. I didn't believe they'd actually killed her off before -- not out of any great insight or foresight, but because, as Timmay said, it might resolve something... or otherwise cause some change... it would pose a threat to the status quo that the writers were so afraid of challenging.
*honken*
Rabi~en~Rose
06-07-2006, 02:22 PM
last night I got all confused and thought it was wednesday and thought I missed again :confused: but I checked anyway and only missed like the first 7 minutes :sweat:
why did Entei have to die already?? :crying: he was like the coolest fastest and most powerfullest non-Naraku baddie so far :crying: whats even worse is that they are bringing Kikyo back :mad: she's like the worst character on the show now things are going to focus on her and get lame again
Game Freak 4
06-07-2006, 03:08 PM
You know, I'm am getting sick of this Kikyo-bashing. It just doesn't make sense. And I am not a Kikyo fan.
Ultra8
06-07-2006, 04:18 PM
An interesting episode.
I missed the last few eps. but this Bird Queen lady seems like a good new villian. Look's like Kikyo's coming back albeit stronger than before. I liked the scene with the barrier being broken and the look on Hakodoushi's face when it happened. Always nice to see the unstoppable baddie get a WTF expression.
To bad about Entei, was expecting the fire-breathing horse too last a bit longer.
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The Fullmetal
06-07-2006, 04:32 PM
Well 6/6/6...hmmmmmm...nope don't see why a bunch of numbers should scare me. (Yeah I know what it actually means, I have read the bible believe it or not)
Yeah, well, I know a bunch of fictional lottery numbers that'll scare you. ;)
On the subject of Inuyasha, what's the deal with Naraku? Or are they just wasting time with another whopping 50 episodes of filler just to waste time and make the fangirls happy?
On the subject of Inuyasha, what's the deal with Naraku? Or are they just wasting time with another whopping 50 episodes of filler just to waste time and make the fangirls happy?
...They're trying to find a way to get the last shard of the Shikon Jewel. How is that filler?
Captain Highwind
06-07-2006, 07:02 PM
I'm glad. That horse was annoying.
It just surprised me. I thought it was going to be yet another redundant topic that they'd bring up every few episodes, saying stuff like:
"Look out, it's a flying horse! Careful, he breathes fire and has warp drive!"
Just like "Look out Miroku! Poisonous insects!",
"Sit! Sit!", and
"What was that monk?"
Naraku-Sama
06-07-2006, 07:53 PM
That attack would've killed the humans as well.
Well, she just wants to be free to live her own life. Everybody else wants her to stay, so that's why she wants to kill them all (sans Naraku, obviously).
Why the hell Naraku would make an incarnation of himself that he has to torture in order to ensure her obidience hasn't been brought up, though. I can understand Munno, since he was just Naraku's human side, but why the hell did Naraku make Kagura tratiorous like that?
Yes, I understand that, but still...Kagura goes too far sometimes and acts as if she is a victim, yet, she is obviously evil just like the rest of her family. Practically everything that Naraku has done to her was pretty much earned, so it is not like he just messed with her for fun... She betrays EVERYONE, and only truly cares about herself. And, I have seen and read everything canon about her and Kikyou, and my opinion of them will never change. I do not wish to insult fans of these characters, but at least respect my opinion as much as I respect the fan's.
And by the way, he did not " make " her traitorous; all or most of his Children act however they wish. Juuroumaru and another was a traitor like Kagura, yet Kanna, Goushinki and another are / were loyal-- they all act differently.
Peace.
CaptainRed
06-07-2006, 10:19 PM
...They're trying to find a way to get the last shard of the Shikon Jewel. How is that filler?
It's become hard to separate the filler from the plot recently. The Band of Seven arc rather destroyed any rhythm this show had going. Now there's the mention of a "wise one" and the group gets side-tracked(or seemingly so) fighting the pterodactyl lady, and I can easily see how someone could become confused and cry "filler!"
It just surprised me. I thought it was going to be yet another redundant topic that they'd bring up every few episodes, saying stuff like:
"Look out, it's a flying horse! Careful, he breathes fire and has warp drive!"
Just like "Look out Miroku! Poisonous insects!",
"Sit! Sit!", and
"What was that monk?"
Heh, point conceded. :¬)
last night I got all confused and thought it was wednesday and thought I missed again :confused: but I checked anyway and only missed like the first 7 minutes :sweat:
why did Entei have to die already?? :crying: he was like the coolest fastest and most powerfullest non-Naraku baddie so far :crying: whats even worse is that they are bringing Kikyo back :mad: she's like the worst character on the show now things are going to focus on her and get lame again
Are you being ironical or did you not read the rest of the thread? :¬)
Still... I'm wondering what anyone is sad about regarding Entei. He was a superpowerful plot device that didn't really have a function. And then he got chumped because he wasn't even a smart horse. Did you ever see Mr. Ed choking on his own flame attack? I don't think so.
And the statement that he was the coolest non-Naraku baddie so far isn't a very good one for the series, considering he had no lines and was, more or less, just a conveyance.
*honken*
It's become hard to separate the filler from the plot recently. The Band of Seven arc rather destroyed any rhythm this show had going. Now there's the mention of a "wise one" and the group gets side-tracked(or seemingly so) fighting the pterodactyl lady, and I can easily see how someone could become confused and cry "filler!"
I think people were so focused on the Kikyo 2-parter they've forgotten the previous couple episodes leading into this arc.
Princess Abi's mother knows of a way to enter the graveyard of Inu's pappa without having to become a ghost first. Abi's mama needs human blood in order to get back her full strength. Naraku/Hakudoshi is helping Abi collect more blood so Abi's mom can show them how to get the final shard while, at the same time, delaying/killing InuYasha's crew.
Patches
06-08-2006, 12:31 AM
Yes, I understand that, but still...Kagura goes too far sometimes and acts as if she is a victim, yet, she is obviously evil just like the rest of her family. Practically everything that Naraku has done to her was pretty much earned, so it is not like he just messed with her for fun... She betrays EVERYONE, and only truly cares about herself. And, I have seen and read everything canon about her and Kikyou, and my opinion of them will never change.
So, I guess that means you know the whole thing about how
Kagura helped Kohaku escape Naraku, despite penalty of death, which she later received? Not to mention cluing the group in on Naraku's plans and weaknesses of her own free will many times.
Though, since I suppose she was still "betraying" someone at that point, it still makes the action evil. I don't really understand how betraying the bad guys to benefit the good guys is bad.
Naraku-Sama
06-08-2006, 12:57 AM
So, I guess that means you know the whole thing about how
Kagura helped Kohaku escape Naraku, despite penalty of death, which she later received? Not to mention cluing the group in on Naraku's plans and weaknesses of her own free will many times.
Though, since I suppose she was still "betraying" someone at that point, it still makes the action evil. I don't really understand how betraying the bad guys to benefit the good guys is bad.
At first, she WAS going to kill Kohaku in order to obtain his Shikon shard, but later decided to let him escape mainly because she believed that Mouryoumaru / the baby did not deserve to become stronger ( and she did not wish to be used by them as well ). Also, if Kohaku had not lectured her so, I am certain that she would not have been at least that considerate...
That is Kagura. Obviously, she always told the heroes and Sesshoumaru about ways to defeat Naraku simply because she believed that would eventually set her free. Every so-called good deed that she did was only for benefiting herself, and there has been nothing that proves otherwise, in my opinion. And it is also obvious that she would allow anyone ( yes, even Sesshoumaru ) to lose their lives in order for her's to be spared.
Kagura betraying Naraku did not exactly make her a worse person, nor is it the reason why I dislike her so; but it does help prove that she was nearly as rotten as he is, since she used similar dirty tricks and lies, and she also appeared to be a bit sadistic as well...Also, one minor " good deed ( if you wish to consider it that ) " does not always automatically change who the person is ( I know of evil characters who had done an honorable thing or two, but are still rotten none the less ).
Anyway... Again, I do not wish to offend fans, but if I have, then I apoplogize, and after all, this is my opinion-- which does not have to mean anything...
Peace.
Master Moron
06-08-2006, 01:12 AM
disgusting fake Zombie-body,
I think her zombie body looks pretty hot myself. Actually, they should make a reality show called Extreme Zombie Makeover where they give ugly girls zombie bodies.
By the way, why can Kikyu's arrow break Hakkudoshi's barrier and Inu-yasha's red tetsaiga can't? Are Kikyu's arrows more powerful than Kagome's?
Well, I would imagine that Kikyo's arrows would be more powerful, since she's undergone training and such and Kagome hasn't. For all we know, Kagome could break the barrier if she really wanted to.
Or it could be that the barrier is strengthened by Hakudoshi's will. He saw Red Tetsusaiga coming and strengthened the barrier to deflect it, but since he didn't see the arrow coming at all, he couldn't have strengthened it to at least slow it down.
Simon Trent
06-09-2006, 05:33 PM
Is it true that there are only 18 episodes left after this one? If so, I really hope that they have a plan to resolve all the loose threads. I admire Inuyasha for having so many fans despite being glacial in its pacing and crammed with dull characters like Sesshomarou and Kikyou but I really don't think that the writers should play fast and loose with the little time they have left.
Master Moron
06-09-2006, 07:44 PM
Is it true that there are only 18 episodes left after this one? If so, I really hope that they have a plan to resolve all the loose threads. I admire Inuyasha for having so many fans despite being glacial in its pacing and crammed with dull characters like Sesshomarou and Kikyou but I really don't think that the writers should play fast and loose with the little time they have left.
Sheshomaru? A dull character? I've been saying for months that Sheshoumaru, Jaken, and Rin are the only interesting characters on this show.
Simon Trent
06-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Sheshomaru? A dull character? I've been saying for months that Sheshoumaru, Jaken, and Rin are the only interesting characters on this show.
Okay, fine, maybe not dull. More like 'frigid'. 'Lifeless'. I've been watching this show for what feels like seventy seasons by now (none of the films, however) and I cannot remember one interesting, imaginative, or amusing thing that he has done. He feels like a static crature, a pointier version of Inuyasha designed to be a sniping, bullying antagonist with mysterious and mindless objectives that are picked up and dropped as quickly as the writers get bored with them. While he has been getting some character development as of late, it's still glacially slow, almost as if it takes seasons months of relentless pounding in order to get any response from the character. And, I have to say, I honestly can't stay interested in a character that seems to take forever to change.
One of the reasons Fluffy seems static is because his expression hasn't really changed since his arm got cut off early in the series. He has changed a lot (Sesshomaru during the first dozen episodes would've let Rin die right then and there as well as kill InuYasha when he had the chance back when Inu's demon side went out of control), but it's very subtle and he never really shows it. After all, would early Fluffy have saved that sea otter demon's pappa?
NahMan85
06-10-2006, 01:48 AM
After all, would early Fluffy have saved that sea otter demon's pappa?Really now, when I saw that I said to myself, "you should have saved that girl with the flute that had a crush on you. Baka."
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