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The Landstander
06-02-2006, 06:34 PM
From the mind of Spongebob storyboard artist Aaron Springer comes a different kind of wacky violence.

v1cious
06-02-2006, 06:37 PM
this show freaking rules

how in the world are they gonna air this? did they even watch the pilot?

Mog
06-02-2006, 06:38 PM
Rather violent, and quite funny. I have a feeling the target audience won't be what AS is looking for though. I fear we have another sub 300K show.

Mugen
06-02-2006, 07:05 PM
Rather violent, and quite funny. I have a feeling the target audience won't be what AS is looking for though. I fear we have another sub 300K show.

Well, it's airing both Saturday and Sunday. I'm sure AS probably will look at Sunday's ratings since Saturday is so erratic.

Beat
06-02-2006, 07:15 PM
I expect the anime fans to change the channel as soon as they see this distinctly American show.

Their loss. Samurai Jack meets Venture Brothers meets Conan. Violent and funny.

Nin-Nin69
06-02-2006, 07:22 PM
Oh man that was awesome. This is in my top 3 AS originals now. :anime:

Also I noticed in the credits that Genndy Tartakovsky was the animation director. I though he didn't work for CN anymore. :confused:

William C. Maune
06-02-2006, 07:28 PM
Also I noticed in the credits that Genndy Tartakovsky was the animation director. I though he didn't work for CN anymore. :confused:

He can still freelance projects as he pleases though I presume.

Nin-Nin69
06-02-2006, 07:36 PM
He can still freelance projects as he pleases though I presume.
Either way I'm happy for him since he's making up for SJ when it comes to fast pace action wtih bloodshed and gore.

Mugen
06-02-2006, 07:49 PM
Wow, that was great. The violence was gory and worthy of a TV-MA rating. And the comedy was actually funny and made me laugh a couple of times. In fact, the humor reminded me of old Dexter Laboratory episodes, only more adult. I'm glad to see Gennedy Tartakovsky was the animation director behind this.

Another thing I liked was the fact that this was traditional animation. No limited animation, no Flash(although I like Flash), just good ole hand-drawn animation. AS, this is what you need more of.

Also, it's nice to see Cartoon Network Studios doing work for AS. I'm guessing the new logo is for AS originals that come from CN Studios. Anyway, I hope this does well tommorrow and Sunday. This needs to be a series, ASAP.

DragonPup
06-02-2006, 08:01 PM
It was amusing and funny at times, but a tad too violent. At times it seemed to only be violent for violence sake. I dunno, it just felt too over the top. And I think S&P might end up butchering it, too.

Mugen
06-02-2006, 08:02 PM
And I think S&P might end up butchering it, too.

No, they won't. They approved this, so it will air as-is.

Neo Ultra Mike
06-02-2006, 08:34 PM
It was amusing and funny at times, but a tad too violent. At times it seemed to only be violent for violence sake. I dunno, it just felt too over the top.

But that's the POINT of the series though: A warrior like Kolgorth going around and basically killing and thrashing everything he feels he needs to kill and thrash. I mean why else would they advertise the violent part the show if that wasn't the main focus?

I could defintley see Genndy directing this. Though not as funny as say Spongebob (at least a real good episode anyway) Aaron did a good job bringing comedy and action to this. I liked the opening with the grunt being sent in to talk to Kolgorth, everyone screaming several times as Kolgorth ripped that guy open (one into a woman's clevage, heh heh), the fat glutton trying to touch the girl and spitting in her face, one of the guys saying "we got you good" when Kolgorth was given that stomach pain, "you can bring along 12 of my strongest henchement and a couple of other guys for fun", the tree having the woman attached to it, Kolgorth and her doing it in the bush, the guy being pecked out the bird, the wizard getting those guys to do each other in, Kolgorth vs the gum monster (espically the last form. Didn't expect him to blow up that gum freak), the woman interrupitng and ending up being killed, and Kolgorth leaving at the end with the various medicine. The ending credits with him taking a dump was not needed but everything else was good. I hope they do make a series out of it. I could see more Kolgorth adventures being made.

Youko Recca
06-02-2006, 08:52 PM
This was great, definitely wouldn't mind a series out of this.

Moto Pete
06-02-2006, 08:58 PM
This show is great. I can't wait till i comes on. It started low but picked up the girls are great eye candy. Great writing and classic characters.

MeggieMay
06-02-2006, 11:00 PM
Those mutant pigeons were LOL funny, IMO (I did not see that one coming) :D

My only worry about this show going to series would be whether or not they could come up with enough episodes to make it work. However, if they could come up with enough storylines I think the show might actually get better as it went along, seeing the pilot is actually half decent.

Gobias
06-02-2006, 11:21 PM
I didn't like it, and I thought I would. I think it was the violence honestly, and since this show is pretty much all about that kind of violence, I probably won't like future episodes, but who knows?

Duke
06-02-2006, 11:54 PM
I gotta say, the exploding fruit was great.

But how can a gummy boar bleed?

tb4000
06-03-2006, 02:07 AM
I thought it was cool. Kind of a Heavy Metal/Ralph Bakshi hybrid riddled with Spongebob abstract humor.

Juu-kuchi
06-03-2006, 03:29 AM
Gratuitously violent yet absolutely endearing.

I hope they keep this up.

Paul_Cousins
06-03-2006, 05:59 AM
From the previews I think the character Korgoth is going to be cross between Brock Samson and Conan the Barbaria.

Jyose
06-03-2006, 08:24 AM
Brock Sampson's distant relative, definately, but once you get past that it's a funny show... Exploding dinosaur XD, aside from being hilarious, I like the backgrounds, suprised a Spongebob person could think of this

Moto Pete
06-03-2006, 08:52 AM
I thought it was cool. Kind of a Heavy Metal/Ralph Bakshi hybrid riddled with Spongebob abstract humor.

I could not have ut it better

Golgo13
06-03-2006, 11:00 PM
This show is like something Frank Frazetta would create if he were on acid.

I think we have a winner here. Congrats to Gendy on injecting some more action into animation.

Freedom Fighter
06-03-2006, 11:32 PM
Wow... talk about a series that isn't afraid to say, 'Hey at their most primal level, this is what all men are like!' So true, so true...

Rock music, heads and limbs being severed every which way, buxom females, primitive hunting techniques... one could say this show has it all.

Maybe I'm still in shock over what I saw, but I wasn't as enthralled as I thought I'd be. Maybe I was looking for something else, I don't know. It will be interesting to see if the writers can keep such a show interesting for an extended period of time. Then again, most AS shows pigeonhole themselves with one-note premises anyway.

Still, despite the score I'm about to give it, this will definitely be one of AS' most-talked about series... if it's picked up. Just to see something different on AS... I hope it's given a chance and gets at least a 13-episode order.

6.5 out of 10 for Korgoth of Barbaria.

Scirel
06-04-2006, 12:44 AM
AS better make this a series.

Carlos
06-04-2006, 12:47 AM
Boy, Korgoth banged that chick real good.:eek:

NickWhiz1
06-04-2006, 12:57 AM
Wow, this is one of the better things Adult Swim has spit out in quite some time.

Hopefully they actually order it.

Railith
06-04-2006, 12:57 AM
Rock music, heads and limbs being severed every which way, buxom females, primitive hunting techniques... one could say this show has it all.

It's like they looked inside my head and created the prefect show.

The Myst
06-04-2006, 12:58 AM
Well, looks like you've got another winner Adult Swim...:rolleyes2:

Chris Wood
06-04-2006, 12:58 AM
I expect the anime fans to change the channel as soon as they see this distinctly American show. .

Are there really people like that?

beren
06-04-2006, 12:58 AM
My favorite part was when he ripped the lower jaw off that beast, smacked it in the head with its own jaws and fangs then did an elbow drop ontop of the jaw causing its head to explode.

livingfruitvirus
06-04-2006, 12:59 AM
Are there really people like that?

What internet are YOU using? And can I use it?

Zuric
06-04-2006, 01:00 AM
god knows that i've been waiting forever for a scene of someone ripping off someone else's arm and beating them with it

Mog
06-04-2006, 01:01 AM
My favorite part was when he ripped the lower jaw off that beast, smacked it in the head with its own jaws and fangs then did an elbow drop ontop of the jaw causing its head to explode.
Seconded. I would do the same if I was in his place.

Sigma
06-04-2006, 01:01 AM
Korgoth is by far the best thing on Adult Swim since the Venture Bros.

I loved the pilot and hope we get more.

PickHut
06-04-2006, 01:04 AM
The violence was just ridiculous. In a funny way, of course.

Chris Wood
06-04-2006, 01:05 AM
What internet are YOU using? And can I use it?

I haven't knowingly encountered any anime-only people on Toon Zone anyway.

TnAdct1
06-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Add me to the list of people who would like to see AS pick up Korgoth as a regular series. After seeing an ad for it (in which Korgoth pulls the flesh off a person's body), I had a feeling this would could be an interesting show, and it didn't disappoint when I saw the actual episode.

BTW, considering all the violence that appears in this pilot episode, does this raise the chances of AS possibly picking up Elfen Lied in the future?

Nin-Nin69
06-04-2006, 01:13 AM
The only thing that could stop this from being made into a series is the production cost. I bet it wasn't cheap compared to every other show AS has pumped out recently.

Julayla_Beryl
06-04-2006, 01:23 AM
Yes! Include me too in wanting this to be a series! I am in love with Korgoth now! It reminds me of when I first watched Vampire Hunter D when I was just a little girl...I loved the gory violence and still do today! I just can't wait for this to become a series. ^_^

v1cious
06-04-2006, 01:24 AM
The only thing that could stop this from being made into a series is the production cost. I bet it wasn't cheap compared to every other show AS has pumped out recently.

the Boondocks cost $500,00 per episode. i think they will be okay.

Saotome2U
06-04-2006, 01:25 AM
The only thing that could stop this from being made into a series is the production cost. I bet it wasn't cheap compared to every other show AS has pumped out recently.

Hm, well, I'd wager that Boondocks is one of the more expensive shows [as] pumped out, but it's one of their biggest hits. With the more cheap production costs of their other shows, I'd say that it leaves a lil' more in the bank for them to crank out the occasional more expensive show to produce.

All-in-all, I liked this show. Definitely got some laughs outta me...good to know Mr. Tartakovsky lended a lil' hand to the fun. Though I liked the show, I do agree that toooooo much gore can eventually get tiresome. Surely they can come up with other comedic outlets for the violence....like when the oversized pigeon pecked the inept dude in half. :lol:!! No blood or guts there, but it sure was funny as hell.

Thumbs up for me for [as] picking the show up...

Oh, and the moral of this show...never hi-five a guy with a hook for a hand. :p

Neo Ultra Mike
06-04-2006, 01:40 AM
BTW, considering all the violence that appears in this pilot episode, does this raise the chances of AS possibly picking up Elfen Lied in the future?

Probably not. I don't think AS had any intention of airing the series at all. Besides Elfen is a lot worse then blood then even Kolgorth is and there's still the whole naked chick issue to deal with (and that's only in the first ep). So I would really doubt they'd ever show the show. Sorry.

the Boondocks cost $500,00 per episode. i think they will be okay.

Actually the Boondocks costs I beieve 800,000 an ep. Adult Swim pays for half of it and Sony Pictures (Distrubtors of the show license) pays for the other half. I don't think Kogarth cost that much, so hopefully price wouldn't be the reason we wouldn't see more of it. (Well I'm hoping there isn't a reason but you know what I mean).

Master Moron
06-04-2006, 01:45 AM
It was...interesting. But, I'm surprised that everyone on this board thought it was funny. You know, I should really stop saying that. I mean, if the people on these boards like Bo-bo-bo-bo Bo-bo-bo and Venture Brothers I should just assume that they'll find things that aren't funny to be funny. Most of the jokes seemed to revolve around the characters dying in interesting ways, which is interesting, but not really funny, at least to me. I almost think the show might work if the show had less humor and was more of a straight up action show.

I don't know if a series would work though. I mean, someone already mentioned that Korgoth was similar to Brock Sampson, and Brock Sampson is one of the most unlikeable characters on Adult Swim. I mean, in this episode Korgoth killed people, but the people he killed were pretty despicable anyway, and it was so over the top that it really didn't bother me too much. But, I imagine if Korgoth killed people in every single episode eventually he'd kill someone whom I didn't want him to kill and I'd start to despise him.

The Landstander
06-04-2006, 01:52 AM
Though I disagree with said VB assumptions I agree with Master Moron. There was potential here, I liked the animation, and it wasn't BAD, but I just didn't find myself particularly laughing. I can enjoy violence for the sake of humor, but it didn't seem to be done in the right way here.

I'm vaguely interested in where the show can go, but...meh.

Evil Tim
06-04-2006, 02:52 AM
Wow. I had only read that they were storyboarding this thing a few months ago, so I had no idea what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised by the pervasive graphic violence creatively combined with comedy. I couldn't believe they got away with some of that stuff. I'm not sure I've ever seen a show quite like this. Now, I'm not sure how long the premise could last before it got stale, and Diedrich Bader simply recycled his Hoss Delgado voice here, but it definitely caught my attention because it's so starkly different from the rest of the Adult Swim shows.

Artimus Gigan
06-04-2006, 02:55 AM
I thought this was funny

it was just a grotesque barbarian version of Monkey Island

only without puzzles

Taylor Karras
06-04-2006, 04:03 AM
I thought it was interesting but I noticed a few points at the end, They use the same splitscreen credits as many other Cartoon Network shows and They are using a new Cartoon Network Studios logo in their credits, I have 3 words, What The ****?.

Overall, It was good, 8.5/10

One Radical Dude
06-04-2006, 04:08 AM
Is it just me, or did I hear a hint of Hoss Delgado (from Billy and Mandy)? I managed to catch the last half of the pilot -- these types of shows aren't usually my thing, but I do expect this pilot to become another top series in the future. I was surprised to see Genndy Tartakovsky's name credited.

Timmay
06-04-2006, 04:12 AM
Is it just me, or did I hear a hint of Hoss Delgado (from Billy and Mandy)? I managed to catch the last half of the pilot -- these types of shows aren't usually my thing, but I do expect this pilot to become another top series in the future. I was surprised to see Genndy Tartakovsky's name credited.
Ahh.. that's who it is. I was trying to figure out where I had heard him before..

The episode was uh.. graphic for sure.. was lacking on the funny department to me though. Definitely not enough for me to dislike it though

Sketch
06-04-2006, 04:21 AM
Two guys who were creative minds behind memorable and fan favored kids shows come together to make something COMPLETELY different and it works boy does it ever work.

The plot though about him needing to take the exilar all the time is kinda lame, I almost hope they ditch that.

Too bad for that one girl, what a way to lose your head.

The fights were just madness. Gratiudous doesn't even begin to describe it. Potential is to be had with this one. Hopefully Adult Swim will give it a nice long run.

LordByronius
06-04-2006, 04:26 AM
I was kinda curious how an Adult Swim show helmed by actual animators instead of comedy writers/actors/trained chimps would turn out.

Korgoth, at least, is a winner.

CaptainRed
06-04-2006, 04:48 AM
Though I disagree with said VB assumptions I agree with Master Moron. There was potential here, I liked the animation, and it wasn't BAD, but I just didn't find myself particularly laughing. I can enjoy violence for the sake of humor, but it didn't seem to be done in the right way here.

I'm vaguely interested in where the show can go, but...meh.

That's probably the best summation of the way I felt about the show that I can think of. Thank you for thinking of it first. :¬)


god knows that i've been waiting forever for a scene of someone ripping off someone else's arm and beating them with it

Futurama's version wasn't close enough, eh? What with the beating Fry gave Zoidberg using his own severed arm?


*honken*

HG Revolution
06-04-2006, 08:39 AM
The best piece of television animation I've seen since Clone Wars! A blend of different styles, Korgoth works very well, although if they switched the focus more to the action-adventure aspects and saved the comedy for when it was geniunely laugh-out-loud funny (in this episode, the tree mutant, death-by-pigeon, and Korgoth getting kissed by the gummy woman were the main moments where I was actually busting a gut as opposed to being merely amused) it would benefit the series in the longrun. Also, while the rock 'n roll score was fun, I think an orchestral James Vernable score would be more memorable. Other than those small complaints, AS has something going for them! Genre parodyxSpongebob+(Samurai Jack-morality)=a winning formula, apparently. Those fight scenes were just crazy! Although this is supposed to be a comedic show, I was actually scared when the girl was decapitated and Specules took over her body. But when this show was funny, it was REALLY funny! Never since LowBrow have I found a pilot episode so fully entertaining! A-

Also, for those interested, according to Amid Midi at Cartoon Brew, a series of Korgoth has already started early production and will be ready around September.

Kagetsu
06-04-2006, 09:01 AM
I'm so impressed with this new genre of animation excelence. Imagine all the time that has been wasted on inovative and expressive animation style and exciting stories expressed with clever humour, that it is so easily replaced with flat voiced dialog, toilet sounds, "inyourface" cleavage (anyone bring binoculars) and animation that reminds me of those creatures in the cars with oversized tires and engines. Such a refreshing break from GitS, to be able to switch off my brain and chuckle(well, at least once or twice) at absurdity. (gees what a waste of time)

A "My Gym Partners a Monkey" for grownups. :p

Beat
06-04-2006, 10:46 AM
Here's the thing. If Korgath becomes a series, I can definitely see something of an ongoing plot forming to drive the character forward and give him motivation. After all, violence isn't nearly as good without a focus.

KefkaFloyd
06-04-2006, 02:02 PM
People. Brocks' last name is spelled SAMSON. People who say Sampson sare like people who say Hampster - morons.

Korgoth was very entertaining because it's something I haven't seen in quite a long tme - balls to the wall cartoon violence with no holds barred. It reminded me of the Boondocks violence, except it was much, much bloodier and funnier. It's kinda like Grand Theft Auto violence. I can see how it can turn some people off, and I have a feeling if Korgoth was a live action show, the excessive violence wouldn't be as funny. But then, it's not.

Freedom Fighter
06-04-2006, 03:24 PM
It was...interesting. But, I'm surprised that everyone on this board thought it was funny. You know, I should really stop saying that. I mean, if the people on these boards like Bo-bo-bo-bo Bo-bo-bo and Venture Brothers I should just assume that they'll find things that aren't funny to be funny. Most of the jokes seemed to revolve around the characters dying in interesting ways, which is interesting, but not really funny, at least to me. I almost think the show might work if the show had less humor and was more of a straight up action show.That's probably a major reason why I scored the pilot so low, because it's an action-comedy hybrid that AS was treating (or claims to be treating) as a comedy like Venture Brothers. So I was expecting a lot of laughs, and didn't get much other than laughs at immature things and such (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just not a great thing). If I was under the impression that this was going to be designed as an action series, I'm confident I would've given it an 8 at least... a 1.5 point bump minimum.

Futurama's version wasn't close enough, eh? What with the beating Fry gave Zoidberg using his own severed arm?*smacks himself on the forehead* Thank you! That's where I had seen that being done before! I couldn't for the life of me remember why that seemed familiar...

Kagetsu
06-04-2006, 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by Master Moron
It was...interesting. But, I'm surprised that everyone on this board thought it was funny. You know, I should really stop saying that. I mean, if the people on these boards like Bo-bo-bo-bo Bo-bo-bo and Venture Brothers I should just assume that they'll find things that aren't funny to be funny. Most of the jokes seemed to revolve around the characters dying in interesting ways, which is interesting, but not really funny, at least to me. I almost think the show might work if the show had less humor and was more of a straight up action show.
That's probably a major reason why I scored the pilot so low, because it's an action-comedy hybrid that AS was treating (or claims to be treating) as a comedy like Venture Brothers. So I was expecting a lot of laughs, and didn't get much other than laughs at immature things and such (which is necessarily a bad thing, it's just not a great thing). If I was under the impression that this was going to be designed as an action series, I'm confident I would've given it an 8 at least... a 1.5 point bump minimum. There is no defense for Bobobobo :p
Venture Bros. has at least that it's a farce of Johnny Quest.

There is no story line on "gods green earth" that can turn this into an "action-anything" because the characters have absolutely no personality depth. There is no reson to hope they win their struggle because "they" don't even care. There is a certian amount of shock humour in a character failing in an absurdly humourous way. Dirk the Daring was a scream when you selected wrong and he died a horrible death but still looked at you as though "it's your fault". How many times can you see a characters skin ripped off, doused with alcohol, and set on fire, or a wizard say "I was on vacation" and still think it's funny.

Of course, I'm known for not liking "hit you on the head with the joke till you get it" humour

tucsoncoyote
06-04-2006, 04:55 PM
After seeing the pilot episode of Korgoth of Barbaria, I have to say this..: Move over Groo, Look out Thundarr, Be on your guard Conan.. Korgoth has come to play..

Let's break this idea down into a bunch of silly skits and you get the laughs you need. Korgoth is sort of a spoof of Thundarr the Barbarian, and Venture Brothers all rolled into one.

Now the Parts i loved where the "Die Roll" Scene (Hmmm a 9, It's Stank..) was hilarious.. (For all those D and D types) Throwing in a few pieces of Eye candy (Hey the babe wasn't that bad until she lost her head..) and in fact death by giant pigeon was hilarious..(Almost as funny as Monty Python's Killer bunny... The plot ran well and it left it wide open for a story line..(Maybe Korgoth might come out as an 'Adult' version of Thundarr (Korgoth gets some eye candy, gets some mutant freak and then goes on quest after quest trying to make his life a bit happy..

The only down side I saw to this was the gore and violence.. but hey it doesn't hurt killing a few poor hapless baddies to make it worth while (but when you kill off the eye candy.. well then there goes the story.. for a moment..)

I think Audlt Swim has a great series on it's hands (Better then Sealab 2021, better than the Boondocks, and just as good as "The Venture brothers...

I think if they get the Venture Brothers and Korgoth together in Back to back episodes I think CN and Williams street will have a good run with this one..

so my final score on Korgoth is an 8.9 out of 10.. I kind of deducted points due to the massive amounts of Violence but eh.. keep the eye candy coming.. it's bound to get better...

:coyote:

The Myst
06-04-2006, 05:54 PM
I agree with Landstander and Master Moron. Except on Venture Brothers. That show owns.

Mugen
06-04-2006, 06:01 PM
Also, for those interested, according to Amid Midi at Cartoon Brew, a series of Korgoth has already started early production and will be ready around September.


Ah,that's good news to hear. This gives it a chance for the show to develop the characters.

Duke
06-04-2006, 06:24 PM
I thought it was interesting but I noticed a few points at the end, They use the same splitscreen credits as many other Cartoon Network shows and They are using a new Cartoon Network Studios logo in their credits, I have 3 words, What The ****?.
Why's that so strange? It was made at Cartoon Network's LA Studio, where all the other CNS shows are made. So why wouldn't it have the CN studios logo and the CNS credits?

DragonPup
06-04-2006, 10:33 PM
Probably not. I don't think AS had any intention of airing the series at all. Besides Elfen is a lot worse then blood then even Kolgorth is and there's still the whole naked chick issue to deal with (and that's only in the first ep). So I would really doubt they'd ever show the show. Sorry.
Jeez, the violance and nudity are only 2 of the reason EL will never be seen on [as]. There's more, but that goes into spoiler territory.

Rabi~en~Rose
06-04-2006, 10:36 PM
yuck I think this show is way to gross and violent for me to watch any further :(

Zyzzybalubah
06-04-2006, 11:00 PM
It wasn't bad. The animation style wasn't my favorite, but with Genndy's direction (he was listed that way in the credits I believe) it looked a little decent. Not a bad show by any means and I would frequently watch it if it's picked up, but I wouldn't cry if it wasn't.

Also, that CNS logo is pretty cool.

Youko Recca
06-04-2006, 11:01 PM
yuck I think this show is way to gross and violent for me to watch any further :(

How's that? Rewatching it, I don't see how it'd require a "yuck".

jv2k
06-04-2006, 11:24 PM
It was...interesting. But, I'm surprised that everyone on this board thought it was funny. You know, I should really stop saying that. I mean, if the people on these boards like Bo-bo-bo-bo Bo-bo-bo and Venture Brothers I should just assume that they'll find things that aren't funny to be funny.
To quote the 'ol internet saying, "Lolz opinions".

I don't know if a series would work though. I mean, someone already mentioned that Korgoth was similar to Brock Sampson, and Brock Sampson is one of the most unlikeable characters on Adult Swim.
From the responces I've seen on the web as well as my own opinion many believe brock samson is badass and they like him as a character.

Is it just me, or did I hear a hint of Hoss Delgado (from Billy and Mandy)? .
A hint? It was the Hoss voice 100%.
How's that? Rewatching it, I don't see how it'd require a "yuck".
He/she probably means the violence.

Anyway I feel that the show has a lot of potential, its the best original animated series on adult swim and its animation was directed by Gendy Tartakovsky(which is probably why its good). The thing is the humor wasn't that strong I mean the exploding fruit, and guy getting his skin ripped off part were funny, but there wasn't really much else there in terms of humor. Much of the humor is derived from the whole "lolz gory bloody violence" concept and personally I never really found funny.

Happy
06-04-2006, 11:40 PM
The style seemed to be a really "bloated" and at the same time similar to what I remember Ren and Stimpy looking like. I thought it would look better if it was more rigid. Also the blood seemed to gloopy and not dark enough, normally that wouldn't be a problem but the show has so much blood that I decided to bring it up. Other than that it was good and I'll tune in to the series premiere.

SirLemming
06-04-2006, 11:49 PM
I don't see myself becoming a big fan of this show. But I don't count that against it. It's well-done. Technically speaking, although some shots have sort of a "cheap" look to them, in motion it's definitely impressive. There must've been so many scenes in this episode that required a lot of hard work to animate, and that's more than I can say for virtually any other AS show. So I definitely respect it.

It does seem a bit schizophrenic, though, in terms of whether it wants to be exciting and action-packed or whether it wants to be off-the-wall comedy. But it's rare that they get that right on the first try.

Master Moron
06-04-2006, 11:50 PM
From the responces I've seen on the web as well as my own opinion many believe brock samson is badass and they like him as a character.


And if any of those people actually met Brock Samson in real life, Brock Samson would probably kill them.

DaphHime
06-05-2006, 01:36 AM
Here's the thing. If Korgath becomes a series, I can definitely see something of an ongoing plot forming to drive the character forward and give him motivation. After all, violence isn't nearly as good without a focus.

Agreed, I can easily see this becoming just another gore-fest with no real plot easily if mishandled.

Sadly, I missed the second half, but I did like some of what I saw. Like the main character ripping the guys skin off after his long speech about how much pain he was going inflict and beating the guy with his own severed arm. As well as the girl in the cage biting the guys hand. And how they decided who was going to talk to Kogarth.

When it comes to gore and violence, I'm one of those types that goes "Ewww! Gross!" first then laughs their head off. That's just the reaction I had with this show. Which isn't a bad thing. It's also nice to see traditional animation making a comeback.

The Landstander
06-05-2006, 01:55 AM
Despite my reaction to the show, I'm sure if it were picked up they would expand on the characters and/or the plot and/or whatever you like. Hence why I think it has potential. This just seemed to be laying the groundwork for the show and its sense of humor; I didn't think it worked that great on its own, but maybe if it had more of a background to it, it would.

*shrug*

CaptainRed
06-05-2006, 01:58 AM
*smacks himself on the forehead* Thank you! That's where I had seen that being done before! I couldn't for the life of me remember why that seemed familiar...

*smacks Freedom Fighter on the forehead* Welcome ;¬)


It seems to me that there are three kinds of responses to this show:

1) Those who love it.

2) Those who hate it.

3) Those who are mildly disappointed in it and don't seem to be holding out much hope for it.

No one seems to be mildly impressed. :¬}


If they are making a series of this, I hope they keep the hook-handed guy. He seemed the most entertaining. Or interesting. Or something.

*honken*

spidl
06-05-2006, 09:44 AM
It seems to be a great cross of Thundarr the Barbarian, Conan, and Monty Python. If its written well it could have a classic slapstick comedy series.

D.Shaffer
06-05-2006, 11:49 AM
I loved this. It was an over the top homage to everything that defines the 'Barbarian' genre. Overly muscled nearly naked Barbarian? Check. Buxon women in little clothing who need rescuing, often in cages? Check. Evil sorceror and a quest? Check. Gratuitous violence? Oh my check. Heavy metal background music? Check and double check.

The only thing missing were snake people.

herbkir
06-05-2006, 11:50 AM
I loved it! It was Conan the Barbarian meets Monty Python. Great parody of the whole barbarian sword & sorcery genre. The blood and gore occurred in appropriate places, to appropriate characters, and was cartoony enough to be funny and not offensive.

Parody is tough to do well on a series basis. Bobobo was funny the first few episodes but then the parody became labored and forced, ceasing to be funny. If the WS folks can keep this blend of action and humor fresh, and develop the recurring characters a bit, they'll have a winner on their hands.

Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian, although he appeared simple on first glance, was really a very complex fellow who could hold readers through the many volumes of his epic.

Based on the Korgoth pilot, AS needs to greenlight this. (^_*)

Doz Hewson
06-05-2006, 02:07 PM
What I saw struck me as nothing but a satire of the war between Straight and Queer. And it's....remembrable as hell.

Paul_Cousins
06-05-2006, 04:06 PM
Heavy Metal (movies/magizine/babe t&a) meets hentai anime, with loads of ultra-violence, good animation and a decent plot.

I like it a lot. :cool: And I want more.

Korgoth gives as much punishment as he takes.

I give this episode 8 out of 10 stars. I would have given it 9 stars if they had no included the bird droppings part of the episode.

Williams Street finally did something right.

This is officially my third all time favorite original Cartoon Network series.

Number one being Megas XLR

And number two being Venture Brothers.

I hope this series is continued.

ToxicOne
06-05-2006, 04:18 PM
I saw this and I have to say, I enjoyed it. The guy getting killed by the giant pigeon was my favorite part.

Paul_Cousins
06-05-2006, 05:08 PM
I saw this and I have to say, I enjoyed it. The guy getting killed by the giant pigeon was my favorite part.My favorite scene is the thug being through and landing face first into the busom of a bueatiful babe and staying there. I have waited so long for a scene like that to be shown on TV, uncensored. :cool:

Aquadementia
06-06-2006, 02:32 AM
It's like playing Dungeons and Dragons, when beer is plentiful.

It reminds me of the Venture Bros. premiere in that they went overboard with the blood.
The violence seems to be a necessary aspect of the show, but if it's going to rely on shock so heavily I could loose interest.

I wonder if Korgoth is going to be the only main character, or if he would assemble a band of regulars.
Because they could go the route of making him an enigmatic character with no past and no future, caught up in events but staying bigger then them and unaffected.


Did the guy with the hook survive?
I was surprised he made it as far as he did.

And nice bit of scheduling, placing it between Futurama and Family Guy. Futurama's version wasn't close enough, eh? What with the beating Fry gave Zoidberg using his own severed arm?
And Korgoth pales by comparison.
But overall it's a pretty good show for AS. I'm interested in seeing more.

CaptainRed
06-06-2006, 03:05 AM
My favorite scene is the thug being through and landing face first into the busom of a bueatiful babe and staying there. I have waited so long for a scene like that to be shown on TV, uncensored. :cool:

You were waiting for that scene?

Paul_Cousins
06-06-2006, 05:32 AM
You were waiting for that scene?It's a common scene shown in a lot of comedy anime series, but has never been shown in american animation before.

kashpoing
06-06-2006, 12:21 PM
I loved it , It kinda reminds me of an 80's comic book. Korgoth will become something I regularly watch .

Schwarzwald
06-06-2006, 02:04 PM
It reminds me of the Venture Bros. premiere in that they went overboard with the blood.
The violence seems to be a necessary aspect of the show, but if it's going to rely on shock so heavily I could loose interest.
My thoughts exactly, on both counts.

At first I was a bit turned off - then I realized that, especially in animation, pilots tend to be utter crap compared to what the show eventually turns into. Venture Bros (I admit, I loved the pilot personally), Billy and Mandy, PPG, etc.

Between Genndy being involved and the unique setting of the show, I have high hopes for it.

Trogdor
06-06-2006, 07:55 PM
I must say that I loved it :anime: I agree that it could use some more fleshing-out of the story when it becomes a series (I know...if it becomes a series, but I try to keep a positive attitude), but for one individual pilot toon I think it was very good and I would love to see more. I just hope they re-run it because a good friend of mine, a fan of the cartoon violence and use of sexual humor she is, didn't get to see it :sad: That, and there are always a good deal of people who plan on seeing something and either forget or don't get the chance.

Between Genndy being involved and the unique setting of the show, I have high hopes for it.

Mister Tartotovsky was involved? I missed that! What did he contribute?

Mugen
06-06-2006, 09:30 PM
Mister Tartotovsky was involved? I missed that! What did he contribute?


He was the animation director.

Freedom Fighter
06-07-2006, 01:13 AM
I just hope they re-run it because a good friend of mine, a fan of the cartoon violence and use of sexual humor she is, didn't get to see it.This Thursday Night at 12 mid and 3:30 am, right after 'Family Guy.'

CaptainRed
06-07-2006, 06:06 AM
It's a common scene shown in a lot of comedy anime series, but has never been shown in american animation before.

That explanation does not stop your initial statement from being creepy.

G1Ravage
06-08-2006, 04:11 AM
I :lol:'d at this episode throught the entire...episode. Damn my inferior grasp at holding the English language of speaking.

Outside of anime, I don't think I've ever seen such free expression of senseless violence and gore done so well.

Jedah Dohma
06-08-2006, 04:43 AM
Mindless violence and blood galore!! Let there be gore! :evil:

I was thoroughly entertained by this whole pilot episode. This is certainly better than most AS originals I've watched.

Would like to see this get developed.

Korgoth gets a 8/10 (from me at least).

Ajax
06-08-2006, 06:28 PM
Dude, my mouth literally dropped when I watched this ep. This is some wacky ****, man. And its funny too, what a rareity. I mean can they really air this on TV?

Trogdor
06-09-2006, 12:13 AM
This Thursday Night at 12 mid and 3:30 am, right after 'Family Guy.'

Crap, I should've read this earlier; I'm watching it now, took me completely by surprise. I could take a gamble and call her but I don't know if she'd wanna stay up until 4:00 anyway :(

maczero
06-09-2006, 11:00 AM
What I saw struck me as nothing but a satire of the war between Straight and Queer. And it's....remembrable as hell.Huh?

As someone else mentioned upthread, this show taps into something very primal inside us guys. The over the top violence, degradation of women and metal soundtrack makes me feel slightly ashamed for liking this show but it's not enough to keep me from watching.:D

Paul_Cousins
06-10-2006, 12:58 AM
Huh?

As someone else mentioned upthread, this show taps into something very primal inside us guys. The over the top violence, degradation of women and metal soundtrack makes me feel slightly ashamed for liking this show but it's not enough to keep me from watching.:DActually if Korgath the series is continued (we all hope), I look forward to seeing what the inspired Red Sonia/Taarna (Heavy Metal Movie) "strong woman warrior" character will be like.

Trogdor
06-10-2006, 01:31 AM
Actually if Korgath the series is continued (we all hope), I look forward to seeing what the inspired Red Sonia/Taarna (Heavy Metal Movie) "strong woman warrior" character will be like.
Aaah, yes, Korgoth meets his Xena-esque match ;) Now that's a good idea for a story...

Also, I've been thinking. What do you think the infamous Maddox (creator of the Best Page in the Universe @ http://maddox.xmission.com/ ) thinks of this show? It seems right up his alley to me :D

CaptainRed
06-11-2006, 10:54 PM
As someone else mentioned upthread, this show taps into something very primal inside us guys. The over the top violence, degradation of women and metal soundtrack makes me feel slightly ashamed for liking this show but it's not enough to keep me from watching.:D

Not all of us stayed in the jungle.

Aaah, yes, Korgoth meets his Xena-esque match ;) Now that's a good idea for a story...

Good idea? Try standard and cliche idea.

Futurama was right: "Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared.... TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before."

*honken*

Paul_Cousins
06-11-2006, 11:11 PM
Futurama was right: "Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared.... TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before."You do remember the ending to that episode? :sweat:

CaptainRed
06-12-2006, 03:30 AM
You do remember the ending to that episode? :sweat:

"It was just a matter of knowing the secret of all TV shows: At the end of the episode, everything's always right back to normal."

I enjoy ironic humor.

So... what was your point? :¬)

Beat
06-12-2006, 11:04 AM
Genndy and Aaron have enough originality between them to power an entire network. I trust that they won't go down the cliche route. At least, I hope not.

Bunai
06-19-2006, 01:24 AM
as a girl you'd think i'd cringe at this show. but i was laughin my head off. the excessive violence, gore, and blood were great. and used...well nicely :anime: i love the part with the Giant Pigeons.

goofy how all the men were killed off. but that was a running gag that was actually funny. reminded me of the Odyessy...his whole crew was killed and he was the only surviver.

Trogdor
06-19-2006, 02:59 PM
Good idea? Try standard and cliche idea.

It is? :confused: Well...so much for that idea then. I didn't know it'd actually been done multiple times before :sweat:

Shadow Blaziken
06-21-2006, 06:37 PM
I must be the only person in the world who wasn't too fond of the show.

However, the whole part with the giant pigeons rocked.