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Duke
05-31-2006, 12:23 AM
Oh nos! What will happen? Will InuYasha and Kikyo be separated FOREVER!?

NahMan85
05-31-2006, 12:27 AM
Oh nos! What will happen? Will InuYasha and Kikyo be separated FOREVER!?Let me think about this for one minute...um yeah. Well the first part was pretty damn good. I have to admit that. Very nice drama. Nicely done...so far. Now lets see the second half. Oh man "come" is done. Yup it's over for me now. What, ending theme before the show actually ended again and those last few secs. were wasted of course. Man this half wasn't as good as the first. But at least next week's preview looks good.

The Myst
05-31-2006, 12:47 AM
This two-parter should've been done within the first ten episodes.

KaidoYuji8Adam
05-31-2006, 01:23 AM
I liked this 2 parter.
It got rushed at the end however.
Also, I really didnt like how they reused the animation from earlier episodes of the series; It was painfully obvious since the earlier seasons used the old cel animation while the newest seasons use digital.

Spike Mcdougal
05-31-2006, 01:23 AM
The final time Come will be heard on Adult Swim.

It's so sad:crying:

Duke
05-31-2006, 02:35 AM
Why is everyone saying "Come" was last heard here? It wasn't. Change the World was used at the end of the episode. (Though since Change the World completely and utterly blows, I'd rather have had the average Come.)

Anyway, I noticed that when Kikyo first asked InuYasha to help slay the random demon near the beginning of the episode, it seemed as though it was done traditionally instead of digital.

Surprised they didn't keep InuYasha's look-back when Kikyo first started shooting her arrows from the first episode. That was a rather cool pose.

I wish they had done more with Kaede's lost eye, though. Could've been a great plot point, but it was glossed over too quickly.

While this episode did explain a plot point clearly (i.e. why Naraku didn't just take the jewel after injuring Kikyo), it also left another open. Why didn't Naraku slaughter the village and take the Shikon Jewel after Kikyo died? It's not like Kaede's going to put up much of a fight, and I'd like to think Naraku was watching the entire scene go down.

They still kept Kikyo's big moment of stupidity, though.

Onigumo: Hey kid, I wanna rape your big sister and do all kinds of nasty things to her. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Kaede: I hate you, I'm telling!
Kikyo: So, he said all that, did he? Well, he obviously didn't mean it. I mean, humans can't possibly be pure evil, only demons can. He just needs some pity and kindness, and he'll come around.

-_-' Oy.

Spike Mcdougal
05-31-2006, 03:20 AM
Why is everyone saying "Come" was last heard here? It wasn't. Change the World was used at the end of the episode. (Though since Change the World completely and utterly blows, I'd rather have had the average Come.)

Oops

Somehow I forgot about that

Naraku-Sama
05-31-2006, 04:09 AM
Why is everyone saying "Come" was last heard here? It wasn't. Change the World was used at the end of the episode. (Though since Change the World completely and utterly blows, I'd rather have had the average Come.)

Anyway, I noticed that when Kikyo first asked InuYasha to help slay the random demon near the beginning of the episode, it seemed as though it was done traditionally instead of digital.

Surprised they didn't keep InuYasha's look-back when Kikyo first started shooting her arrows from the first episode. That was a rather cool pose.

I wish they had done more with Kaede's lost eye, though. Could've been a great plot point, but it was glossed over too quickly.

While this episode did explain a plot point clearly (i.e. why Naraku didn't just take the jewel after injuring Kikyo), it also left another open. Why didn't Naraku slaughter the village and take the Shikon Jewel after Kikyo died? It's not like Kaede's going to put up much of a fight, and I'd like to think Naraku was watching the entire scene go down.

They still kept Kikyo's big moment of stupidity, though.

Onigumo: Hey kid, I wanna rape your big sister and do all kinds of nasty things to her. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Kaede: I hate you, I'm telling!
Kikyo: So, he said all that, did he? Well, he obviously didn't mean it. I mean, humans can't possibly be pure evil, only demons can. He just needs some pity and kindness, and he'll come around.

-_-' Oy.
" Come " should stay for a few more episodes. Speaking of endings, who is " Shako (SP?) " I just noticed his voice in the credits...

Many of the scenes that were used in these episodes came from season 1, which is why they are not digital. I disliked the art today, though...Other than that really ugly style, this is my least favorite...

If you remember episode # 21 currently, Naraku explained everything about the betrayal, Shikon No Tama, Inu-Yasha, Kikyou, etc...I cannot remember much either, but I do believe that Naraku said that he expected for Kikyou to use the Shikon No Tama in order to save herself first,( so it could become more tainted / powerful and he must have given her THAT MUCH mercy simply because he liked her ) then perhaps he would steal it later. Perhaps Naraku also had plans to make Kikyou his Woman after Inu-Yasha was out of the picture:lol:

................

I agree, I loved seeing Inu-Yasha look back all afraid / surprised and such ^_^ And did anyone else notice that the same theme played twice in this episode ? That never happens ( except for in episode # 1, I believe ).

Peace.

Duke
05-31-2006, 10:43 AM
Many of the scenes that were used in these episodes came from season 1, which is why they are not digital. I disliked the art today, though...Other than that really ugly style, this is my least favorite...
Was there a flashback to IY & Kikyo woith a snowy background? I don't remember that...

If you remember episode # 21 currently, Naraku explained everything about the betrayal, Shikon No Tama, Inu-Yasha, Kikyou, etc...I cannot remember much either, but I do believe that Naraku said that he expected for Kikyou to use the Shikon No Tama in order to save herself first,( so it could become more tainted / powerful and he must have given her THAT MUCH mercy simply because he liked her ) then perhaps he would steal it later. Perhaps Naraku also had plans to make Kikyou his Woman after Inu-Yasha was out of the picture:lol:
Yea, but why not steal it in between the time Kikyo died and they burned the body? Unless Naraku wasn't even watching the whole ordeal, which seems really stupid on his part.

Patches
05-31-2006, 12:33 PM
" Come " should stay for a few more episodes. Speaking of endings, who is " Shako (SP?) " I just noticed his voice in the credits...
Sango's grandfather. The guy who had Kirara and Hiraikotsu in the first part. Since this was originally a single hour-long episode, the credits at the end of this one cover both parts.

Crimefighter
05-31-2006, 01:32 PM
Someone said they hated "Change the World", bah, I really liked the song. "Come" is done, well that means we're in the final stretch...unless the show gets revived in Japan, which as popular as this show has been in America may happen with so much of the manga available to be made into animation.

The reused animation question, well they pretty much HAD TO use it for the story they were telling here. Makes sense for all them flashbacks to meld together.

Duke
05-31-2006, 01:38 PM
Someone said they hated "Change the World", bah, I really liked the song.
I'd've probably liked it more if the singer was actually good. Though I will grant that the Japanese version is better than the English version.

Rolling Cloud
05-31-2006, 03:16 PM
According to this: http://asfdotcom.net/

1st Opening: "Change the World" by V6

8th Ending: "Brand-New World" by V6

They're not the same song, but done by the same artist. So, any haters of "Change the World", won't have the same exact issues with this next song.

Duke
05-31-2006, 03:18 PM
Well, Brave-New World must sound awfully close, because I distinctly heard "I want to...CHANGE THE WORLD!" when the credits started rolling.

Timmay
05-31-2006, 04:56 PM
Well, Brave-New World must sound awfully close, because I distinctly heard "I want to...CHANGE THE WORLD!" when the credits started rolling.
No, last night definitely was change the world.. It was the same song as OP1 with imagery from the oldschool adventures of Inuyasha.

Rolling Cloud
05-31-2006, 07:14 PM
No, last night definitely was change the world.. It was the same song as OP1 with imagery from the oldschool adventures of Inuyasha.

Ok! Just trying to help. :shrug: "Come" is starting to become my fav. ending though. :anime:

Timmay
05-31-2006, 07:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElYxFO8Y3MA&search=Inuyasha%20148
is the ending in question if anyone missed it.. it appears to be a special thing just for this episode.

Naraku-Sama
05-31-2006, 07:40 PM
Was there a flashback to IY & Kikyo woith a snowy background? I don't remember that...
That flashback was created on episode # 15, " Return of The Tragic Priestess, Kikyou. " Remember when Inu-Yasha said, " She was always by my side. And I, by her's..." ? And it was also shown in episode # 124, " Farewell Kikyou, My Beloved " when Kikyou was thinking of Inu-Yasha as she was falling. Yea, but why not steal it in between the time Kikyo died and they burned the body? Unless Naraku wasn't even watching the whole ordeal, which seems really stupid on his part.
I have no idea...Perhaps Naraku was already too late, and so he did not wish to make a " scene " over nothing...? Or perhaps he was unable to make it there due to a major interference ( a Demon? His period? Got lost?? )

As for " Brand New World ", I have heard it; it is one of my favorite Inu-Yasha songs, and I am certain that some of you will like it as well. Just because Boys are singing it, does not mean that it is bad:) I would post a clip here, but I have no idea how you guys feel about spoilers^_^

Peace.

Beefy
06-01-2006, 12:01 PM
No, last night definitely was change the world.. It was the same song as OP1 with imagery from the oldschool adventures of Inuyasha. True, it was "Change the World" even though the credits said "Brand-New World", silly Viz.

Yea, but why not steal it in between the time Kikyo died and they burned the body? Unless Naraku wasn't even watching the whole ordeal, which seems really stupid on his part. Kikyo had the jewel burned with her body so no demon or human could get their hands on it.

And in the scene where Kagome is born, we see the jewel inside her.

Duke
06-01-2006, 02:31 PM
Kikyo had the jewel burned with her body so no demon or human could get their hands on it.
Before the body was burned, I'm sure Kaede and the rest of the villagers spent a few minutes morning Kikyo's death, and then had to re-position Kikyo's body so it was in the praying position we saw her in when she was burned. Altogether, that was probably at least 20 minutes, more than enough time for Naraku to sweep in, kill everyone, and grab the jewel.

Beefy
06-01-2006, 02:38 PM
Maybe Naraku was too busy gloating?

Hyper Shadow X
06-01-2006, 06:30 PM
Wish I could have seen the second part.

Serena S.
06-01-2006, 08:36 PM
Nice episode. I wish they hurry and kill that damn Naraku. Look at what he did to my favorite 2 couples. The 2-parter to the Inuyasha/Kikyo story really explained a few things like why didn't Kikyo hear footsteps approach hear before she got attacked and how Kaede lost her eye. Yea, nice episode but hearing Change The World at the end was even nicer. I'm just glad I can finally get to hear my song of the show, Brand New World, next week.

The Myst
06-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Nice episode. I wish they hurry and kill that damn Naraku.
Yeah... sorry but he hasn't even died in the manga yet...

Captain Highwind
06-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Is it just me, or does Baby Kagome's head look like the Maruchan ramen noodles logo?

SS4goku
06-02-2006, 10:10 AM
I missed this episode, looking to see the re-run on sat night. Off the subject here, but since inuyasha and kikyo dont get togeather i really hope that him and kagome dont get together, cause there something about her that i don't like, dont know what exactly but just something.

QTcutie
06-02-2006, 01:17 PM
I'm so happy I'm not the only one who noticed the ending song was "Change The World" and the credits clearly said "Brand New World". It kind of got me confused @_@ I like pretty much all the songs off InuYasha, but whatever... Anyways! After seeing this special and everything, I sorta feel bad for not liking Kikyo >> Also...! I think I have more of a grudge against Naraku now that I know the whole story, because it confused the heck out of me before! Over all, it was great. And, yes, I did like the animation, even if it was the old stuff and not new. At least there is less a chance of a mess-up when they use the originals!
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Guess who is happy to be back? XD

Master Moron
06-03-2006, 07:57 PM
I missed this episode, looking to see the re-run on sat night. Off the subject here, but since inuyasha and kikyo dont get togeather i really hope that him and kagome dont get together, cause there something about her that i don't like, dont know what exactly but just something.

Well, let's see, Kikyu didn't give Inu-yasha that necklace that makes him sit because she loves him, whereas Kagome not only gave him the necklace, but uses it every chance she gets.

Neo Ultra Mike
06-04-2006, 12:01 PM
This two-parter should've been done within the first ten episodes.

Well first off the whole Inuyasha/Kikyo love story is only really mentioned in Episode 15 when Kikyo is "reborn" into her dead body. Not to mention the fact this episode also incoperates the demon slayers which were first mentioned in 24-26 when Sango came to the team. This probably should of been done right after 26 though, before we got ubersick of seeing the Kikyo/Inuyasha relationship flashback and the show didn't look like it could go so wrong.

Well, let's see, Kikyu didn't give Inu-yasha that necklace that makes him sit because she loves him, whereas Kagome not only gave him the necklace, but uses it every chance she gets

To be fair, Kaede was the one who gave Kagome the Necklace to throw around Inuyasha, and that was because he was going to steal the jewel and there was no other way of really stopping him. Yeah, you can blame her for using the command WAYYYYYY too much, but it's every lead female character's role in most anime to beat on the male character for being stupid. (which isn't you know a good rule... at all but a rule apparently).

The best part of this episode was the ending showcasing the various scenes of Kagome being born and getting with Inuyasha and the rest of the group joing them. Otherwise it was kind of a waste. Oh well, now we can at least focus back on the main plot of the show right?

Master Moron
06-04-2006, 09:28 PM
Well first off the whole Inuyasha/Kikyo love story is only really mentioned in Episode 15 when Kikyo is "reborn" into her dead body. Not to mention the fact this episode also incoperates the demon slayers which were first mentioned in 24-26 when Sango came to the team. This probably should of been done right after 26 though, before we got ubersick of seeing the Kikyo/Inuyasha relationship flashback and the show didn't look like it could go so wrong.



To be fair, Kaede was the one who gave Kagome the Necklace to throw around Inuyasha, and that was because he was going to steal the jewel and there was no other way of really stopping him. Yeah, you can blame her for using the command WAYYYYYY too much, but it's every lead female character's role in most anime to beat on the male character for being stupid. (which isn't you know a good rule... at all but a rule apparently).

The best part of this episode was the ending showcasing the various scenes of Kagome being born and getting with Inuyasha and the rest of the group joing them. Otherwise it was kind of a waste. Oh well, now we can at least focus back on the main plot of the show right?

Maybe I'm confused about how the necklace works, but why doesn't Kagome just take the necklace off of Inu-yasha?

Duke
06-04-2006, 10:58 PM
I remember Kaede saying near the beginning that it couldn't be taken off. Kikyo probably knows how to do it, but she hasn't even regarded the necklace's existance yet.

judyindisguise
06-05-2006, 12:04 PM
Well, let's see, Kikyu didn't give Inu-yasha that necklace that makes him sit because she loves him, whereas Kagome not only gave him the necklace, but uses it every chance she gets.

Hmmm...as I recall, the necklace was a way to keep Inuyasha from killing Kagome. And IMO she uses it very well indeed. :D He usually deserves what he gets from her. He certainly doesn't hesitate to bully others. Anyway, I don't get the Kagome-hate I see from some fans. She's kindhearted, courageous, loyal and vulnerable. What's there to hate?

Master Moron
06-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Hmmm...as I recall, the necklace was a way to keep Inuyasha from killing Kagome. And IMO she uses it very well indeed. :D He usually deserves what he gets from her. He certainly doesn't hesitate to bully others. Anyway, I don't get the Kagome-hate I see from some fans. She's kindhearted, courageous, loyal and vulnerable. What's there to hate?

I really don't think Inu-yasha would all of the sudden start mass murdering people if Kagome didn't make him sit. I just think Kagome is destined to become a spousal abuser.

judyindisguise
06-05-2006, 08:01 PM
I really don't think Inu-yasha would all of the sudden start mass murdering people if Kagome didn't make him sit. I just think Kagome is destined to become a spousal abuser.

Ooookaaaayyyy...

SIT, MASTER MORON! SIT, BOY!!!!

Duke
06-05-2006, 10:34 PM
I really don't think Inu-yasha would all of the sudden start mass murdering people if Kagome didn't make him sit. I just think Kagome is destined to become a spousal abuser.
Nowadays, yea, he wouldn't be all evil and kill people for no reason. But remember how he was back during the first three episodes, he was a lot more wild and a lot rougher a character.

Naraku-Sama
06-06-2006, 01:52 AM
I really don't think Inu-yasha would all of the sudden start mass murdering people if Kagome didn't make him sit. I just think Kagome is destined to become a spousal abuser.
You are right, and if Kagome is so " kind hearted ", then she would not abuse the " sit " command the way she does. In my opinion, Kagome is only as nice as her friends and any other modern-day Girl; people in the feudal era were savages ( even NICE people killed ), so of course they do not appear to be as decent as she is. Inu-Yasha does " deserve " it sometimes, but Kagome is NOT Inu-Yasha's Mother; she has no right punish him when he is " bad " and she should trust that he will not kill the innocent by now...

But whatever...Because many characters praise Kagome and lecture about how " pure she is ", many fans do the same just because, I suppose:lol:
Before the body was burned, I'm sure Kaede and the rest of the villagers spent a few minutes morning Kikyo's death, and then had to re-position Kikyo's body so it was in the praying position we saw her in when she was burned. Altogether, that was probably at least 20 minutes, more than enough time for Naraku to sweep in, kill everyone, and grab the jewel.
Like I said: perhaps he was not around? I cannot understand, either....By the way, did Musou not say that he was sealed away or something after / during the time Kikyou's body was burned? I cannot remember exactly.
Maybe Naraku was too busy gloating?About what, making Kikyou seal / kill Inu-Yasha? Hmm...I doubt it. He must have enjoyed that, but he probably felt bitter-sweet because Kikyou died as well. It is strange: One minute it is as if he dislikes Kikyou and wants to kill her, ( in order to prove something? ) and the next minute, it is almost as if he feels remorseful or likes her a lot...