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sun
03-26-2006, 05:24 PM
Slavery exists in the world right now, and the woman may die for it..Read this article if you want to know about it.

A Woman Without Importance


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Ms. Parveen and her husband, Mohamed Akram.



Aisha Parveen doesn't matter. She's simply one more impoverished girl from the countryside, and if her brothel's owner goes ahead and kills her, almost no one will care.
Ms. Parveen, an outspoken 20-year-old woman with flashing eyes, is steeling herself for a state-administered horror. Just two months after she escaped from the brothel in which she was tortured and imprisoned for six years, the courts are poised to hand her back to the brothel owner.
Sex trafficking, nurtured by globalization and increased mobility, is becoming worse. The U.N. estimates that one million children are held in conditions of slavery in Asia alone. Yet it never gets much attention, because the victims tend to be the least powerful people in these societies: poor and uneducated rural girls.


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Listen to Ms. Parveen's story and hear from the brothel owner who enslaved her. (Produced by Naka Nathaniel) Ms. Parveen was a 14-year-old Pashtun living in the northwest of Pakistan when she was hit on the head while walking to school. She says she awoke to find herself imprisoned in a brothel hundreds of miles away, in this remote southeastern Pakistani town of Khanpur.
A person of unbelievable strength, Ms. Parveen fought back and refused to sleep with customers. So, she says, the brothel owner — Mian Sher, the violent sadist who had kidnapped her — beat and sexually tortured her, and regularly drugged her so that she would fall unconscious and customers could do with her as they liked.
This went on for six years, during which she says she was beaten every day. The girls in the brothel were forced to sleep naked at night, so that they would be too embarrassed to try to escape. Ms. Parveen says she believes that two of them, Malo Jan and Suwa Tai, were killed after they repeatedly refused to sleep with customers. In any case condoms were never available, so all the girls may eventually die of AIDS.
I wanted to look into the eyes of a man who could do these things. So I barged into Mian Sher's brothel, identified myself and interviewed him.
He warily offered me tea, pleasantries and flashes of violent temper. He denied kidnapping Ms. Parveen, saying that he had married her six years earlier. He also denied that he pimped the girls — a claim undermined by a customer who was walking out of his brothel as I arrived. Others working in the area said that Mian Sher unquestionably ran a brothel, and that Ms. Parveen had been imprisoned in it.
In January, Ms. Parveen got a break. A metalworker, Mohamed Akram, had been doing work in the brothel, and he pitied her. "She laid her scarf down on my feet and begged me, in the name of the Holy Koran, to rescue her," he remembers, and soon he felt not only pity but also love.
So on Jan. 5, Ms. Parveen stealthily arose in the middle of the night, crept past Mian Sher and padlocked the door with him inside. Then she ran to a car that Mr. Akram had sent. The next day, they were married.
Then the judicial nightmare began. Mian Sher brought charges against the couple, claiming that Ms. Parveen is his wife and must return to him.
"The police have taken money from him," Ms. Parveen said. "They say, 'You're married to him, so you should go back to him.' Well, I would rather die than go back to the brothel."
The police are now prosecuting Ms. Parveen for adultery. She is free on bail, but thugs have attacked her home and tried to kidnap her.
Mian Sher told me his plan: if Ms. Parveen is jailed for adultery, then as her supposed husband he will bail her out and take her away. Ms. Parveen says she believes he will then rape and torture her, and finally kill her.
So the judicial system, while ignoring the sex trafficking of children, may now, in the name of morality, hand a young woman over to a brothel owner to do with her as he wants.
The new abolitionism, against sex trafficking, is being pushed in America by an unlikely coalition of religious conservatives and liberal feminists; leaders include the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women, Ecpat, Equality Now and International Justice Mission. But progress is slow because the victims tend to be voiceless young people like Ms. Parveen.
Whether Ms. Parveen is returned to her brothel owner and killed may be, in terms of global issues, a small matter. But after spending a couple of days with this smart and lovely young woman, after seeing her in moments of giddy laughter and terrified weeping, I can't help thinking that slavery should be just as outrageous in the 21st century as it was in the 19th.
A court hearing to decide Ms. Parveen's fate is scheduled for tomorrow here in Khanpur. I'll let you know what happens.

Boomhauer
03-26-2006, 10:36 PM
:ack: I ain't see all that reading you got there bud, but I tell ya- those pics looks type sad bro. I understand they teach that in classes (or courses if taken) but hey man if you could just narrow it down and tell the man exactly what your point is and not copy+paste dude. It's like a reading from a book there, cheif.

Scythemantis
03-27-2006, 01:33 AM
A forum post, especially a new thread, is supposed to be long and informative.

However I'm pretty sure all intelligent people over the age of ten know that slavery still runs rampant in many, many forms.

Martianinvader
03-27-2006, 02:59 AM
Evil acts you thought were long extinguished are still around in other cultures. In North Korea they kill all babies with birth defects on sight.

randomguy
03-27-2006, 11:09 AM
Evil acts you thought were long extinguished are still around in other cultures.Most of the time they still exist in this culture, if far outside the mainstream eye. Migrant agricultural workers in Florida, such as tomato pickers, often live in third-world conditions and are paid sub-poverty-rate wages (http://www.ciw-online.org/schlossernyt.html), to name one example.

It's important to remember, with matters like these, that our culture too falls far short.

havokpryde
03-27-2006, 01:23 PM
Most of the time they still exist in this culture, if far outside the mainstream eye. Migrant agricultural workers in Florida, such as tomato pickers, often live in third-world conditions and are paid sub-poverty-rate wages (http://www.ciw-online.org/schlossernyt.html), to name one example.

It's important to remember, with matters like these, that our culture too falls far short.
The system works, but not both ways. The same system that was violated to bring the immigrants in can't be expected to rise up and defend them. I agree it not perfect, and changes need to be made, but to even bring this up in comparision to whats above.

Kagetsu
03-28-2006, 08:42 PM
A forum post, especially a new thread, is supposed to be long and informative.

However I'm pretty sure all intelligent people over the age of ten know that slavery still runs rampant in many, many forms.
Actually I'm surprized how many people know nothing beyond what the news tells them to think.

Much of the worlds economy is still based on slavery. China is rising fast in the world with it and our people are tripping over themselves to invest in the "new world market" I don't think it's possible to support an economy where 10% has 90% of the wealth without subliving wages and slavery. I have no idea where to find the articles, but even beyond the sex slavery, that area of the world can still buy and sell people simply because they are Christians, if they don't just behead them. But sleep well with the idea that in less than ten years, these people will quite possibly control most of the world economy. Maybe they will do better than we did,,, but I doubt it.

havokpryde
03-29-2006, 01:10 AM
Actually I'm surprized how many people know nothing beyond what the news tells them to think.

Much of the worlds economy is still based on slavery. China is rising fast in the world with it and our people are tripping over themselves to invest in the "new world market" I don't think it's possible to support an economy where 10% has 90% of the wealth without subliving wages and slavery. I have no idea where to find the articles, but even beyond the sex slavery, that area of the world can still buy and sell people simply because they are Christians, if they don't just behead them. But sleep well with the idea that in less than ten years, these people will quite possibly control most of the world economy. Maybe they will do better than we did,,, but I doubt it.
China is not good example. It's a mostly communist country which tries to distribute wealth in an even manner that is equitable to all. Which means the exact opposite happens. However have no fear that China will run the world's economy in less than ten years. Can anyone say a Soviet Union collapse?

Ironically some of the biggest cases of the modern slave trade are places which have money, Saudi Arabia and Thailand.

Delthayre
03-29-2006, 01:25 AM
China is not good example. It's a mostly communist country which tries to distribute wealth in an even manner that is equitable to all. Which means the exact opposite happens. However have no fear that China will run the world's economy in less than ten years. Can anyone say a Soviet Union collapse?
Well, that's not really true. The greatest legacies of Communism in China at this point are a totalitarian government and obnoxious, hollow patriotic trappings that nobody really gives a damn about anymore. The Chinese economy has been undergoing extensive reform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform) since the late nineteen seventies. It is still in many ways a mixed economy, but it is now a strongly market-oriented one and moving further along that path by the year.

China by no means redistributes wealth, indeed China has a striking dearth of labor laws and very little regulation combined with a substantial shift of rural populations into the cities to provide cheap, available, and willing labor. Of course, despite this most former peasants do find their standard of living improved by such moves. However, there is a rather severe gulf between the upper and lower economic echelons and by Western standards, the wages are those new workeres are meager.

I don't know that China will run the world's economy in the near future, I don't think that's how the world economy works, but it could well become the dominant force in it. With a terrifyingly large population, strong economic growth, and concurrently increasing foreign investment, China becoming a massively important economic power seems inevitable.

Of course, what's really disturbing is that China's economic dominance is unlikely to be accompanied by any major gain in liberties. That will either take the rise of daring reformers within the Communist Party or a some sort of revolution. The former is probably ideal since while it would likely be far more sluggish, it would avoid the possibility of a civic revolution becoming a violent uprising that would quite probably bring horrendous loss of life and destruction regardless of the winner.