Zatch Bell joins Miguzi April 3rd, One Piece gets the boot

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http://icv2.com/articles/home/8394.html

It's about dang time Zatch Bell joined the weekday strip. I'd prefer prime time I suppose but now that I can actually watch Miguzi (as it airs 1-3PM for me not 4-6 like it's intended to, and I have work 4PM-8PM most days).

Looks like double GX is sticking around. IMO it doens't have enough episodes for that.

But something's fishy... Totally Spies is suppose to return that day and its not on the Miguzi schedule as planned. I hope the article is wrong and the actual line-up will be TS, Zatch, GX and LYOKO but for now it's listed as LYOKO at 4PM, Zatch at 4:30 and an hour of GX a 5PM. So we'll just have to wait and see.

Now all that's left is getitng a weekday home for Naruto and hopefully Bo-Bobo eventually. Naruto is prime time for sure. Bo-Bobo could work on Miguzi but IMO it'd be best to have it pre-AS as a warm up for AS comedy.

[One Radical Dude]

That's great news, because I've missed a lot of Zatch Bell recently, and for this to air on the 'Guz is awesome. I'm surprised that they didn't do this sooner.

[Sketch]

As am I. But maybe they wanted to have 50ish episodes. That's 10 weeks without a re-airing.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

A reason to watch Miguzi?

Have I stumbled on to Bizzaro Earth?

[Sketch]

It's possible. I thought Miguzi would pass on Zatch since it seems to skew too male even compared to obviously male oriented shows that already aired on Miguzi.

Nice to see a good dub like Zatch Bell put One Piece in its place.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

OP is getting booted? well thats okay it I missed a lot of ZB so catch up time can't come soon enough :anime: I wonder if the recap special will be aired?

[Sketch]

I don't see why it would be. Since it's going to be airing 5 days a week for reruns for the time being. The recap was shown because it was only on twice a week at the time.

[Dark Fact]

One Piece is booted for good or just temporarily? :confused:

[RomanMack]

One Piece is booted for good or just temporarily? :confused:Well... On weekdays it's gone. Whether it's temporarily or for good will still need to be determined.

But we know it's not leaving Toonami, since they said themselves that they have new seasons of Naruto, One Piece, and Zatch ready to go.

[iggy]

As already said a reason to watch Miguzi!

[Jedah Dohma]

Yay! Finally, Zatchbell has come.... to weekdays! :anime:

Now I can DVR this and come home in the evening to watch Zatch from the beginning. Plus, catch up on episodes I missed. It'll be good to relive the first episode moments.

GX still has one hour slot? Eh, I only watch new episodes anyway. So nothing new for me there, but Zatch on weekdays is great news.

Next up, Naruto on inevitable weeknights (maybe a replacement for DBZ if it moves to 9:30 PM/Pre-AS?). Then, Bobobo-bobo-bobo (another pre-AS possibility).

Edit: 100 posts. Not bad for a nearly two-weeks.

[Sketch]

Welcome to the 100 club. For two weeks, that's pretty fast.

[sag_2002]

Yay for Zatch rounding up a spot on the Gooz. I've not seen the early episodes, so catch up time for me as well.

[Fan of Sponge]

Great news from Zatch Bell. With all the episodes they have, it would taken forever to air them on Toonami since it's only airs once a week at this time. However, I believe the new Totally Spies episodes people have been talking about starting April 3rd could possibly end up on primetime on CN, Sketch. I think the return for Totally Spies is too big for Miguzi at this time.

[Ultra Mike]

Looks like double GX is sticking around. IMO it doens't have enough episodes for that.

Yeah, but when did CN care about logic when it comes to doubling up showings of episodes? I mean didn't Fosters only have less then 26 before they went to double showings of episodes weekly?

I think the return for Totally Spies is too big for Miguzi at this time.

I don't know. I think that TS always did best On Miguzi. Also if TS was really that big they wouldn't of had such a delay of epsiodes without showing reruns at all in the last few months. No CN show they think is too "big" for Miguzi would do that.

I am glad that CN is getting ZB on weekdays finally. I just hope it's on long enough to see some of the eps I missed (36 and 39, which would mean like 8 weeks or so).

[Draft]

makes sense, but i still think they should make 9-11 a toonami weekday block or somethin like that..

9.0 op
9.5 zatch bell
10.0 jlu
10.5 dbz/?

and obviously, cycle in naruto, bobo, etc by the end of the year..

congrats to zb! fans, which i am not, but i guess i will be one pieceless for 2 weeks

[Sketch]

Wait... you like One Piece but don't like Zatch Bell? Such a statement makes my head hurt.

Toonami can't get 9-11 on weekdays now that Adult Swim will take 10-11 soon.

[Jedah Dohma]

Toonami can't and won't go to weekdays again since it's doing so well on Saturdays. However, I would like to see a Pre-AS hour. Something like this:

For Summer starting in June
9:00 PM: Naruto
9:30 PM: DBZ (Season 4)

Late Summer/Fall
9:00 PM: Bobobo-bobo-bobo
9:30 PM: Naruto (replaces DBZ once the Cell Saga concludes)

I know I'm dreaming (and probably won't happen since CN love their originals) but it's something I'd watch over the summer. :anime:

Anyway, we should get back OT. Zatchbell, it would have been good for primetime but weekday afternoons is just fine for me. Like I said, I can DVR it while I'm at school. Though, I'll still end up going home later in the afternoon to catch it. ^^

[Sam Hill]

Is the 10:00 PM showing of "One Piece" gone too?

[RomanMack]

Is the 10:00 PM showing of "One Piece" gone too?Yes. Since Adult Swim is going to start at 10:30pm soon, CN just moved DBZ to 10:00pm.

[Sam Hill]

Yes. Since Adult Swim is going to start at 10:30pm soon, CN just moved DBZ to 10:00pm.

Damnit! :mad: As crappy as the OP dub may have been (I can't say since I never saw the original), the 1999 DBZ dub couldn't possibly be that much better.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Damnit! :mad: As crappy as the OP dub may have been (I can't say since I never saw the original), the 1999 DBZ dub couldn't possibly be that much better.

Yes it is. The One Piece dub isn't just crappy, its almost universally agreed on as the worst dub of all time.

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Besides... if they kept OP on then DBZ would cut off before season 4 even starts and we can't have that. Season 4 hasn't been on for 5 years.

[Sugah]

TS: the new 15 episodes are supposed to start airing Monday, April 3rd @ 5:30pm (according to yahootv).

I would rather not have CN just waste 15 new episodes on miguzi inside three weeks. Then everyone wonders why it takes so long for new episodes to get on the air. Because CN is always wanting fans to get hooked only at a certain time so they can jump back to their other shows once TS is done airing the new episodes. Luckily there is 26 in a season.

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What an odd schedule...

04:00 - Code LYOKO
04:30 - Zatch Bell
05:00 - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
05:30 - Totally Spies

[li_mangaman]

I liked the block with 'New to the Guz' premieres kicking it off. Considering Totally Spies would just be run for 3 weeks though wouldn't a better schedule be:

4.0PM Zatch Bell
4.5PM Totally Spies
5.0PM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
5.5PM Code: LYOKO

Then after the new episodes, and maybe a second run of them.

4.0PM Zatch Bell
4.5PM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
5.0PM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
5.5PM Code: Lyoko

Then after Zatch Bell reaches 52 episodes, which will be during the summer, right?:

4.0PM Naruto
4.5PM Totally Spies
5.0PM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
5.5PM Code: Lyoko

Or perhaps they'll wait until the fall to start airing Naruto. But until BoBoBo reaches 42 episodes I doubt it will be coming to weekdays.

But some more things to consider are the other shows Cartoon Network still has that will fit the block that you wouldn't guess to see such as Battle B-Daman, Yu Yu Hakusho, D.I.C.E., Transformers Cybertron (Or any of the series, I mean don't you think they'll put something on in preparation for the movie,) Wulin Warriors, Zoids (Fuzors I hope, or maybe even Genesis,) Gigantor, Ben 10, Juniper Lee, JLU etc. I wouldn't even count Bratz out.

CN makes odd decisions so we'll just have to wait and see but I still hope Zatch Bell will be on a 4.0PM.

[WeathermanX5]

Wow, now i can finally watch Zatch Bell.

[Ultra Mike]

I would rather not have CN just waste 15 new episodes on miguzi inside three weeks. Then everyone wonders why it takes so long for new episodes to get on the air. Because CN is always wanting fans to get hooked only at a certain time so they can jump back to their other shows once TS is done airing the new episodes. Luckily there is 26 in a season.

On the other hand, sometimes it's better to go through the season quicker, espically if you have it on a well watched block like Miguzi, so if ratings don't match expectations you can get through the episodes faster and pull it. Also if theyr'e desepreate to extend the show's time they could just repeat the episodes at points before the season is over like they did for the third. Or like have "Totally Spies Marathons" on Friday Miguizi of some of the episodes followed by a premiere or whatever.

But some more things to consider are the other shows Cartoon Network still has that will fit the block that you wouldn't guess to see such as Battle B-Daman

IMHO the only reason that CN has Battle B-Daman is because it's made by the same group who do Duel Masters 2.0. Anyway that's probably not moving off it's slot on Friday Mornings. I think it was put there only for a reason.

Yu Yu Hakusho

YYH is far too "adult" for Miguzi. This show originally aired on Adult Swim for a reason. Besides it was banished to the Saturday Morning/Friday night slot due to low ratings on Toonami, even when it moved to Saturday Night Toonami. so they're not going to give it a prime slot on Miguzi. Be glad they're replaying the last season at all.

D.I.C.E.,

While D.I.C.E would fit Miguzi better then the last two shows, D.I.C.E is also a ratings failure. It only took a few weeks on toonami before they skipped the majority of the series to air the finale and then banish it weekend mornings, letting it air the rest of it's episodes and then go away. There's no way they're going to give it another chance. CN feels that if being sandwitched between two teen titans dosen't drum up ratings, nothing will.

Transformers Cybertron (Or any of the series, I mean don't you think they'll put something on in preparation for the movie,)

Besides some sort of sweepstakes deal, no. It's not a CN Original movie, nor would they get any profit for any of it's sales, thus no reason to promote it outside of the usual movie promos it will get. As for Cybetron on Miguzi, not gonna happen. Lest you forget, Energon aired on Miguzi awhile back. It seriously bombed and was taken off in only about two weeks or so. The reason is no one really watches transformers anymore. Same with Cybetron (which is only back on because Hasbro is forcing it on Toonami. I suppose if Hasbro forced marathons and airings on Miguzi it could happen but Hasbro dosen't have that much power).

Wulin Warriors,

It took two weeks on Toonami for that show to bomb. Two episodes. That is a low time record. You don't get on Miguzi for having low time rating records. Also I'm sure someone here would kill the CN staff if Wulin Warriors even aired again, let alone having a weekday slot.

Zoids (Fuzors I hope, or maybe even Genesis,)

Zoids had it's time in the sun, but now it's done. Fuzors proved this with low ratings enough to get kicked off of SVES in Early 2004. It wouldn't come back on the high rated Miguzi back, and I doubt even any new Zoid series like Genesis would. Best case scenario is Genesis comes to Toonami. And that's still a big if.

Gigantor,

This is a big flat out NO. There are only two reasons Gigantor ever aired on On Cartoon Network.

1. For Toonami's Giant Robot Week due to it being the original of giant robot series and thus a necessity to the block.

2. Someone on the Adult Swim staff really liked the show, or thought it would be a funny joke to air it on the graveyard slot awhile back. (Adult swim has a really sick sense of humor: See Super Globtrotters, The Gary Coleman Show, Karate Commandos, and repeat airings of Boo Boo Goes wild for about 3 months straight).

Ben 10,

Okay, now HERE's something that could and likley will happen at one point. Ben 10 is a CN original that obviously CN loves promoting (it had like about 3 or 4 marathons so far and it's first season isn't done yet) and already aired on Miguzi as part of the MLK celebration. It may even come on as soon the first season finishes. Or they may wait till the second season starts.

Juniper Lee

Possible. It actually also aired on Miguzi for a couple of weeks as a special guest show to drum up ratings. However the ratings for the second season seem to be down so it may be doubtful they'll have the show on again. Maybe if does well enough on Fridays it could be on though... eventually.

JLU etc.

CN is trying to get rid of JLU slowly and quickly. Why do you think it only airs when new episodes are on at the end of Toonami? Also JLU is too mature fro Miguzi. Sure it's made for 2-11 year olds, but it's also made for DC Comic fans and some adult fans as well.

I wouldn't even count Bratz out.

I wouldn't either. Bratz the movie already aired on CN, and it is one of 4kids highest rated shows, and Miguzi is about getting girl viewers. Not to mention the fact Miguzi dosen't neceassirly need that high an action quiotent (no offense but Miguzi has aired shows like Yu-Gi-Oh GX and Codename Kids Next Door. Which are pretty far from action sometimes). Besides Ben 10, Bratz is probably the most likley to move to Miguzi IMHO.

[Rolling Cloud]

But until BoBoBo reaches 42 episodes I doubt it will be coming to weekdays.

Why not?

[shaman_mya19]

http://icv2.com/articles/home/8394.html

It's about dang time Zatch Bell joined the weekday strip. I'd prefer prime time I suppose but now that I can actually watch Miguzi (as it airs 1-3PM for me not 4-6 like it's intended to, and I have work 4PM-8PM most days).

Looks like double GX is sticking around. IMO it doens't have enough episodes for that.

But something's fishy... Totally Spies is suppose to return that day and its not on the Miguzi schedule as planned. I hope the article is wrong and the actual line-up will be TS, Zatch, GX and LYOKO but for now it's listed as LYOKO at 4PM, Zatch at 4:30 and an hour of GX a 5PM. So we'll just have to wait and see.

Now all that's left is getitng a weekday home for Naruto and hopefully Bo-Bobo eventually. Naruto is prime time for sure. Bo-Bobo could work on Miguzi but IMO it'd be best to have it pre-AS as a warm up for AS comedy.

i don't like that one piece is off the week days:sad: :sad: now only on weekends to me!! but i don't watch zatch bell and code lyoko that much

[Rurouni Kenshin]

So Zatch goes to Toonami, about time, I just hope DBZ gets to keep its weekday slot, Season 4 is the only season I haven't seen, and everytime its about to be shown CN pulls it from the schedule. I don't care if they air at 6:00 am every morning, just air on weekdays just once.

[RomanMack]

So Zatch goes to Toonami, about time, I just hope DBZ gets to keep its weekday slot, Season 4 is the only season I haven't seen, and everytime its about to be shown CN pulls it from the schedule. I don't care if they air at 6:00 am every morning, just air on weekdays just once.You mean Miguzi. ;)

[Gary L Thompson]

http://icv2.com/articles/home/8394.html

It's about dang time Zatch Bell joined the weekday strip. I'd prefer prime time I suppose but now that I can actually watch Miguzi (as it airs 1-3PM for me not 4-6 like it's intended to, and I have work 4PM-8PM most days).

Looks like double GX is sticking around. IMO it doens't have enough episodes for that.

I welcome "Zatch Bell" as well, but not double "GX", for exactly the reason you named. If 4Kids is getting sluggish in dubbing episodes (or a weekly slot simply caught up to the current season in Japan too fast), then why dump "One Piece" before it was finished or had a second time around? Or even bring back the original "Yu-Gi-Oh" to hold down one of the slots for a few months, until "GX" has a chance to build up some more episodes? CN is just going to kill the new "Yu-Gi-Oh" series through overexposure before the show even has a chance to really get off the ground.

TS: the new 15 episodes are supposed to start airing Monday, April 3rd @ 5:30pm (according to yahootv).

I would rather not have CN just waste 15 new episodes on miguzi inside three weeks. Then everyone wonders why it takes so long for new episodes to get on the air. Because CN is always wanting fans to get hooked only at a certain time so they can jump back to their other shows once TS is done airing the new episodes. Luckily there is 26 in a season.

Again, CN's disregard for over-exposure. Why TS hasn't been run into the ground long ago has to be a bit of a minor miracle, 26-season shows are more suited for weekly slots, particularly if you're not even showing all of the season!

Toonami can't and won't go to weekdays again since it's doing so well on Saturdays. However, I would like to see a Pre-AS hour. Something like this:

For Summer starting in June
9:00 PM: Naruto
9:30 PM: DBZ (Season 4)

Late Summer/Fall
9:00 PM: Bobobo-bobo-bobo
9:30 PM: Naruto (replaces DBZ once the Cell Saga concludes)

I know I'm dreaming (and probably won't happen since CN love their originals) but it's something I'd watch over the summer. :anime:

I would like Toonami to have more than one primetime evening as well.

Great news from Zatch Bell. With all the episodes they have, it would taken forever to air them on Toonami since it's only airs once a week at this time.

YYH is far too "adult" for Miguzi. This show originally aired on Adult Swim for a reason. Besides it was banished to the Saturday Morning/Friday night slot due to low ratings on Toonami, even when it moved to Saturday Night Toonami. so they're not going to give it a prime slot on Miguzi. Be glad they're replaying the last season at all.

I clearly recall that YYH was one of CN's hot shows when it started out, but the show ended up cooling off because the network kept on jerking it all over the schedule, continually breaking off the storyline. And YYH had only 110 episodes. Believe me, Fan of Sponge, you aren't nearly as eager as I am to see CN to get through Zatch Bell's 150 episodes as soon as possible.

It took two weeks on Toonami for that show to bomb. Two episodes. That is a low time record. You don't get on Miguzi for having low time rating records. Also I'm sure someone here would kill the CN staff if Wulin Warriors even aired again, let alone having a weekday slot.

From what I heard, "Wulin Warriors" was a big hit in Korea, but was victimized by a horrible dub. The timing probably wasn't the best either, at a time when much of CN's audience was getting jittery that toons were being threatened by the intrusion of live programming onto the network.

Zoids had it's time in the sun, but now it's done. Fuzors proved this with low ratings enough to get kicked off of SVES in Early 2004. It wouldn't come back on the high rated Miguzi back, and I doubt even any new Zoid series like Genesis would. Best case scenario is Genesis comes to Toonami. And that's still a big if.

"Fuzors" proved exactly nothing about the popularity of "Zoids". I don't think "Cowboy Bebop", DBZ or "Pokemon" would survived a bad entry like "Fuzors". (It didn't help that CN inexplicably split off the third season of "Zoids" from the first two seasons, running "Zero" into the ground on weekday afternoons while keeping "Chaotic Century" and "Guardian Force" in fringe time slots without ever running the final four episodes--they were only shown in a marathon run its own separate time slot!). Look, if they were to bring back the first three "Zoids" seasons now, they would draw ratings, and they would keep them with "Genesis" if they do a much better job with it than they did with "Fuzors".

I wouldn't either. Bratz the movie already aired on CN, and it is one of 4kids highest rated shows, and Miguzi is about getting girl viewers. Not to mention the fact Miguzi dosen't neceassirly need that high an action quiotent (no offense but Miguzi has aired shows like Yu-Gi-Oh GX and Codename Kids Next Door. Which are pretty far from action sometimes). Besides Ben 10, Bratz is probably the most likley to move to Miguzi IMHO.

If Miguzi wants girl viewers, I wish CN would stop its resistance to a show like "Angelic Layer" or "St. Tail". Or set up a co-production deal that would snatch shows like "Tokyo Mew Mew" or "Pretty Cure" from 4Kids before they're destroyed.

[Ultra Mike]

Originally Posted by Fan of Sponge
Great news from Zatch Bell. With all the episodes they have, it would taken forever to air them on Toonami since it's only airs once a week at this time.

What makes you think that CN will start running through all the episodes of Zatch Bell on Miguzi once it goes on the block? They're not going to do that. The dub company can only dub so many at a time, and there's no way they have enough ready for a long weekly run. Instead ZB will probably air all of it's episodes of the first season on Miguzi and once it probably gets to episodes 50 or 52 it will probably start back at the beginning.

I welcome "Zatch Bell" as well, but not double "GX", for exactly the reason you named. If 4Kids is getting sluggish in dubbing episodes (or a weekly slot simply caught up to the current season in Japan too fast), then why dump "One Piece" before it was finished or had a second time around? Or even bring back the original "Yu-Gi-Oh" to hold down one of the slots for a few months, until "GX" has a chance to build up some more episodes? CN is just going to kill the new "Yu-Gi-Oh" series through overexposure before the show even has a chance to really get off the ground.

But don't forget, Yu-Gi-Oh GX has been overpromoted and overexposed since it first started premiere. It's quick move to the 10PM, promoting every time it had a slew of new episodes, and now this. Overexposure and GX go together. Not to mention the fact that GX is still going on in Japan around the 60's in episode terms. I'm sure the GX team is dubbing as fast as they can but they won't want to get too caught up to the Japanese team until they're finished with the series. Otherwise there wouldn't be any episodes left to dub over and show. And they still want to show eps till the series ends. If GX was a ratings failure it would of been pulled off Miguzi by now.

I clearly recall that YYH was one of CN's hot shows when it started out, but the show ended up cooling off because the network kept on jerking it all over the schedule, continually breaking off the storyline. And YYH had only 110 episodes.

Well it was, but it wasn't by the time it movied to Saturdays in 2004. Also, the jerking around of seasons and brekaing of storylines is something that ALL Toonami weekday shows that had a long episode count had to deal with, so it's not like YYH got super bad treatment. The point was that by 2004 CN had made kids sick of ALL old toons (except for Tom and Jerry and Scooby Doo, and the Dragonball series), which included stuff like YYH. And to be nitpicky, YYH had 112 episodes, not 110.

I would like Toonami to have more than one primetime evening as well.

Well that probably won't happen as there aren't really any primetime slots that need filling. At this rate the best you may get is a Toonami Rerun on Saturday. If AS is getting off Saturdays, I could see them replaying Toonami in the slots AS had, but that's really it.

From what I heard, "Wulin Warriors" was a big hit in Korea, but was victimized by a horrible dub. The timing probably wasn't the best either, at a time when much of CN's audience was getting jittery that toons were being threatened by the intrusion of live programming onto the network.

First off success in one country dosen't mean success in another. A show might just be misunderstood/uncomprehnisble by kids no matter who does the dub if they can't understand it like the Koreans did. Secondly, shows with horrible dubs have gone on to do well (Yu-Gi-Oh had a horrible dub and it did good on Kids WB. One PIece has a horrible dub and does well on Toonami). Thirdly the auidence that CN cares about on the Toonami slot wasn't nearly as worried/concerned/angry about the live action programming on the network. It bombed all the same because kids thought it was bad and didn't watch it. End of story.

"Fuzors" proved exactly nothing about the popularity of "Zoids". I don't think "Cowboy Bebop", DBZ or "Pokemon" would survived a bad entry like "Fuzors". (It didn't help that CN inexplicably split off the third season of "Zoids" from the first two seasons, running "Zero" into the ground on weekday afternoons while keeping "Chaotic Century" and "Guardian Force" in fringe time slots without ever running the final four episodes--they were only shown in a marathon run its own separate time slot!). Look, if they were to bring back the first three "Zoids" seasons now, they would draw ratings, and they would keep them with "Genesis" if they do a much better job with it than they did with "Fuzors".

Zoids was a fad, plain and simple. And fads only last a certain amount of time. The reason that Chaotic Centry was kept and RAN it's 4 episodes was because Toonami cared about the loyal Zoids fan, which are a small minority of the viewers. Also anytime Zoids was brought back (like when Zero aired on SVES) it bombed miserbly in the ratings and was taken out. It would just bomb worse if released now. Zoids has had it's time and trying to think that kids are into it now is kidding yourself.

If Miguzi wants girl viewers, I wish CN would stop its resistance to a show like "Angelic Layer" or "St. Tail". Or set up a co-production deal that would snatch shows like "Tokyo Mew Mew" or "Pretty Cure" from 4Kids before they're destroyed.

CN wants girl viewers for Miguzi. However I don't think they want any "girlly" anime for the block. Why? I'm not sure. But if they did, I have no doubt that Mew Mew Power or Do Re Mi or other such shows would be on. Personally I think the Miguzi block is a little predigious towards anime in general. I mean the only real anime show on the block is Yu-G-Oh GX, and that's just because it carries the Yu-Gi-Oh name.

[bigddan11]

But don't forget, Yu-Gi-Oh GX has been overpromoted and overexposed since it first started premiere. It's quick move to the 10PM, promoting every time it had a slew of new episodes, and now this. Overexposure and GX go together. Not to mention the fact that GX is still going on in Japan around the 60's in episode terms. I'm sure the GX team is dubbing as fast as they can but they won't want to get too caught up to the Japanese team until they're finished with the series. Otherwise there wouldn't be any episodes left to dub over and show. And they still want to show eps till the series ends. If GX was a ratings failure it would of been pulled off Miguzi by now.
You might want to get your facts straight before posting false information. Yu-Gi-Oh! GX has a guranteed 104 episodes that have been made, and I believe it's already been renewed for a 3rd season in Japan. Out of those 104 episodes, 77 have aired in Japan.

CN wants girl viewers for Miguzi. However I don't think they want any "girlly" anime for the block. Why? I'm not sure. But if they did, I have no doubt that Mew Mew Power or Do Re Mi or other such shows would be on. Personally I think the Miguzi block is a little predigious towards anime in general. I mean the only real anime show on the block is Yu-Gi-Oh GX, and that's just because it carries the Yu-Gi-Oh name.
Really? You mean that One Piece isn't anime? Last time I checked, it was created in Japan and only had a few photoshop edits. It's just as anime as anything else in the US that's aired in Japan. I do believe that Poke'Mon, another anime, has also aired on Miguzi. Once again you need to post the facts, not speculation.

[bigddan11]

Damnit! :mad: As crappy as the OP dub may have been (I can't say since I never saw the original), the 1999 DBZ dub couldn't possibly be that much better.

Don't worry about One Piece losing it's 10 PM showing for too long. According to a few sources (TV Guide, zap2it, and CN.com), DBZ will only have the 10 PM slot until they finish the Frieza saga. After that, One Piece is scheduled to regain that slot.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

now that I think about it ZB going to Miguzi is another in a long line of Miguzi/Toonami trades isn't it? if Naruto ends up on Miguzi can I declare that something is wrong with one of the two blocks? :confused:

[bklien]

If Miguzi wants girl viewers, I wish CN would stop its resistance to a show like "Angelic Layer" or "St. Tail". Or set up a co-production deal that would snatch shows like "Tokyo Mew Mew" or "Pretty Cure" from 4Kids before they're destroyed. Is there a way, since 4kids doesn't seem to be interested, for CN to take over the dubbing of TMM's second season?

[RomanMack]

Is there a way, since 4kids doesn't seem to be interested, for CN to take over the dubbing of TMM's second season?CN can't dub Mew Mew Power.

They're not a dubbing company. They just brodecast shows.

[Sam Hill]

Don't worry about One Piece losing it's 10 PM showing for too long. According to a few sources (TV Guide, zap2it, and CN.com), DBZ will only have the 10 PM slot until they finish the Frieza saga. After that, One Piece is scheduled to regain that slot.

Good to know. Thanks. I just hope it doesn't start back to the beginning of the series again.

[Gary L Thompson]

[/i]

Zoids was a fad, plain and simple. And fads only last a certain amount of time. The reason that Chaotic Centry was kept and RAN it's 4 episodes was because Toonami cared about the loyal Zoids fan, which are a small minority of the viewers. Also anytime Zoids was brought back (like when Zero aired on SVES) it bombed miserbly in the ratings and was taken out. It would just bomb worse if released now. Zoids has had it's time and trying to think that kids are into it now is kidding yourself.

I remember a news item on "Pokemon" finally being displaced at the top of the Internet's search engine inquiries--it was "Zoids" that displaced it. If that's a fad, it was mighty hot one at the time. As I noted in detail before, the way CN handled "Zoids" was hardly conducive to great ratings, separating the show's seasons weakened the impact it could have had, and CN made matters worse by underexposing one portion and running the other portion into the ground. It's no surprise SVES viewers would tune out a 26-episode show that they were seeing for the umpteenth time around--and then CN compounded the crime by following up an overexposed show that was good with a show that was terrible. Rather than saying "Zoids" has had its time, I think it would be more helpful to look at it this way: with time viewers are no longer sick and tired of "Zero" and memories of "Fuzors" are mercifully fading, now would be the time to make a fresh start with viewers.

CN can't dub Mew Mew Power.

They're not a dubbing company. They just brodecast shows.

They do more than broadcast shows. They're co-producing "IGPX" and "Powerpuff Girls Z", after all. And they ordered the second season of "Big O" and (unfortunately) fourth season of "Zoids". If CN wanted the episodes of "Tokyo Mew Mew" dubbed that 4Kids never picked up, be assured they would be dubbed by someone. (At the absolute worst, CN could get Warner Brothers Animation to dub shows they wanted. Though I seriously doubt a WBA dub would be any better than 4Kids', if anything, I think not a little of 4Kids' problems was due to Kids WB's influence, and the Warner influence wasn't positive on other anime providers either--an occasional "Big O" and "Teen Titans" aside.)

In any case, it would win CN a lot of good will (which they could use, particularly among female viewers, which really drive the ratings and retail sales after you get up into older Nielson demographics).

[Master Moron]

It's possible. I thought Miguzi would pass on Zatch since it seems to skew too male even compared to obviously male oriented shows that already aired on Miguzi.

Nice to see a good dub like Zatch Bell put One Piece in its place.

Zatch Bell is not a good dub. Any dub that changes 90% of the music is not good.

[RomanMack]

Zatch Bell is not a good dub. Any dub that changes 90% of the music is not good.Well... It is better than One Piece's dub...

Then again... Every dub is better than One Piece's dub. XD

Well... Besides Wulin Warrior's dub.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

now that I think about it ZB going to Miguzi is another in a long line of Miguzi/Toonami trades isn't it? if Naruto ends up on Miguzi can I declare that something is wrong with one of the two blocks? :confused:

I don't think TV-PG-V is cool on Miguzi. Although CN aired Naruto Saturday afternoons for awhile, they never went past Episode 5(I think they even reaired the first episode rather then airing Episode 6 when they should have), so nothing from the Zabuza Arc or beyond has ever aired outside Toonami or 12AM.

Can't see them allowing the brutal violence in Naruto on Miguzi.

[Master Moron]

Well... It is better than One Piece's dub...

Then again... Every dub is better than One Piece's dub. XD

Well... Besides Wulin Warrior's dub.

True. You know, since One Piece! is being pulled off of weekdays again, this lends support to my theory that One Piece! only does well due to its Naruto lead in.

[Assembler]

Well this is good news to see Zatch bell is on weekdays seeing I flat out stopped watching since I missed so many episodes.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Were DBZ's ratings low or something, I'm surprised that they would take it off for OP.

[RomanMack]

True. You know, since One Piece! is being pulled off of weekdays again, this lends support to my theory that One Piece! only does well due to its Naruto lead in.Well... According to the scehdual it's still keeping it's 10:00pm timeslot.

I believe that One Piece can hold it's own and get many veiwers. Of course it does get help from Naruto right before it, but if that was all it depended on, CN wouldn't have put it on weekdays to begin with. Let alone show over 50 episodes on the weekday airings.

[Master Moron]

Well... According to the scehdual it's still keeping it's 10:00pm timeslot.


It's not keeping its 10:00 pm timeslot because that timeslot is going to Adult Swim.

[RomanMack]

It's not keeping its 10:00 pm timeslot because that timeslot is going to Adult Swim.I know, I meant for the time being. By the way, when does Adult Swim gain the 10:00pm timeslot?

[Sketch]

Some time a June according to the current plan. No date set yet.

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I missed most of the early episodes of Zatch Bell! and as a result had a lot of dumb questions.

It would be great to catch up! :sweat:

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I don't think TV-PG-V is cool on Miguzi. Although CN aired Naruto Saturday afternoons for awhile, they never went past Episode 5(I think they even reaired the first episode rather then airing Episode 6 when they should have), so nothing from the Zabuza Arc or beyond has ever aired outside Toonami or 12AM.

Can't see them allowing the brutal violence in Naruto on Miguzi.


Naruto is really not that different violence vize from Dragon Ball Z.
Dragon Ball Z airs everyday at 9:30 on CN. :anime:

[Sketch]

Yeah but DBZ never aired on Miguzi.

Also, Naruto has lots of sharp pointed objects. Something DBZ pretty much lacks. The violence in Naruto is closer to home than DBZ. DBZ is down right rediculous so it isn't taken seriously. Naruto tends to be taken more seriously, thus the PG rating for not being much more violent than DBZ overall. But DBZ uncut is also TV-PG.

[Megaman X]

Yay for Zatch bell ^_^ one of the best shows on toonami if you ask me:D

[Draft]

9.0 op
9.5 zb!
10.0 jlu
10.5 dbz/?


Wait... you like One Piece but don't like Zatch Bell? Such a statement makes my head hurt.

Toonami can't get 9-11 on weekdays now that Adult Swim will take 10-11 soon.

i just got a subscription to sj, and i did not watch op on 4kids, so im catchin up on cn, and i bet that zb gets a lot of older vewers than op, so put it later, but its only a 1/2 hr difference..

like this

9.0 op
9.5 zb
10.0 jlu
10.5 dbz

by summer, maybe something like this, make miguzi 3-6, and take off 10-11 for

3.0-4.0 disputed between titans, spies, and batman
4.0 yugioh gx
4.5 xialon showdown
5.0 code lyoko
5.5 one piece
------------
9.0 naruto
9.5 zatch bell

by fall.., make miguzi 3-5, and make 5-7 wves or toonami weekdays or somethin

3.0 (teen titans, the batman, totally spies, yu-gi-oh, pokemon, whatever new thing cn picks up from 4kids/kwb)
3.5 yugioh gx
4.0 xs
4.5 code lyoko
-----
5.0 one piece
5.5 zatch bell
6.0 bobo
6.5 naruto

im not the biggest supporter of zb! oh well, and op doesnt deserve 2 slots a day, and it does not belong at 10pm, that is obvious, cause it is bad, and i dont think its a good lead in to AS, and dbz will do fine with that,

[Sketch]

Zatch Bell would be a good enough lead in to Adult Swim IMO. It does have teen appeal. Yet somehow, One Piece manages to have more (probably the manga and ya know finding the proper audience despite having an awful dub).

One Piece will probably keep 10PM until AS gets that time as well.

Hopefully by then Naruto will be at 9:30PM. The sooner it gets there the better IMO.

Zatch Bell would be better post Miguzi or pre-AS but it's a good show that deserves exposure so I guess Miguzi works. CN doesn't want to give up more than an hour and a half of the time between Miguzi and AS to aquisitions so Naruto's shot at weekdays is bumping out Xiaolin Showdown's 9:30 slot essentially.

6PM's Xiaolin Showdown will probably be taken by Ben 10 in May if Ben 10 doesn't go to Miguzi. But at any rate Xiaolin wont need 9:30PM after it has a full run (actually it doesn't need it now but CN believes it does so whatever).

Prime time should be interesting this summer. Especially when AS takes 10PM. Hopefully there will be a decent show pre-AS. One that's better than 4kids drek dub of One Piece.

Speaking of which it seems odd for them to randomly air "All Dried Up" on Monday then go back to the begining. Perhaps they plan on using Monday's for an encore slot of Saturday's premieres. Or maybe they just wanted to air that one again so it would get a rerun because Miguzi stops an episode before that. But man... strange time to throw it in.

I don't see why they don't just continue from where they left off last week at 10PM. Going back to the begining again is stupid. But perhaps they hope to hook more viewers since it's pre-Futurama now.

Well it wouldn't be the first time 4kids One Piece was pre-AS. But hopefully it'll be the last.

[bklien]

I don't think TV-PG-V is cool on Miguzi. Although CN aired Naruto Saturday afternoons for awhile, they never went past Episode 5(I think they even reaired the first episode rather then airing Episode 6 when they should have), so nothing from the Zabuza Arc or beyond has ever aired outside Toonami or 12AM.

Can't see them allowing the brutal violence in Naruto on Miguzi.
Static and Winx Club, not to mention Totally Spies, had a lot of violence in them, not unlike Naruto.
Zatch Bell would be a good enough lead in to Adult Swim IMO. It does have teen appeal. Yet somehow, One Piece manages to have more (probably the manga and ya know finding the proper audience despite having an awful dub).

One Piece will probably keep 10PM until AS gets that time as well.

Hopefully by then Naruto will be at 9:30PM. The sooner it gets there the better IMO.

Zatch Bell would be better post Miguzi or pre-AS but it's a good show that deserves exposure so I guess Miguzi works. CN doesn't want to give up more than an hour and a half of the time between Miguzi and AS to aquisitions so Naruto's shot at weekdays is bumping out Xiaolin Showdown's 9:30 slot essentially.

6PM's Xiaolin Showdown will probably be taken by Ben 10 in May if Ben 10 doesn't go to Miguzi. But at any rate Xiaolin wont need 9:30PM after it has a full run (actually it doesn't need it now but CN believes it does so whatever).

Prime time should be interesting this summer. Especially when AS takes 10PM. Hopefully there will be a decent show pre-AS. One that's better than 4kids drek dub of One Piece.

Speaking of which it seems odd for them to randomly air "All Dried Up" on Monday then go back to the begining. Perhaps they plan on using Monday's for an encore slot of Saturday's premieres. Or maybe they just wanted to air that one again so it would get a rerun because Miguzi stops an episode before that. But man... strange time to throw it in.

I don't see why they don't just continue from where they left off last week at 10PM. Going back to the begining again is stupid. But perhaps they hope to hook more viewers since it's pre-Futurama now.

Well it wouldn't be the first time 4kids One Piece was pre-AS. But hopefully it'll be the last.
Are you saying that will cancel Xiaolin Showdown altogether on CN in May? I was just starting to like the show.

[Rolling Cloud]

Static and Winx Club, not to mention Totally Spies, had a lot of violence in them, not unlike Naruto.

Are you saying that will cancel Xiaolin Showdown altogether on CN in May? I was just starting to like the show.

1. The violence in Static or Winx Club cannot equal Episode 18 of naruto.

2. Xiaolin Showdown should stay on CN, until after they show Chase Young