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Artimus Gigan
03-16-2006, 11:49 PM
I shall divine the true meaning of this episode through interpretive dance
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Spike Mcdougal
03-16-2006, 11:57 PM
B-tch slap!!!!!

Kidding aside get ready for one the most f-cked up song placements I've ever heard.


Assuming that was in the original because i've only seen the Director's Cut version of this episode

BigBear
03-17-2006, 12:01 AM
Yeah, its in both versions. I kinda wondered why the chose that song in the first place for that scene.

Chrono1995
03-17-2006, 12:06 AM
Asuka's mind is getting raped, meanwhile...

...AND HE SHALL REIGN FOREVER AND EVER!

Steiner
03-17-2006, 12:18 AM
Yeah, its in both versions. I kinda wondered why the chose that song in the first place for that scene.

I hear you; I've always thought that it makes that scene unintentionally funny.

BigBear
03-17-2006, 12:21 AM
Or maybe they treat the incident as a good thing.:D

Beat
03-17-2006, 12:43 AM
Asuka's getting more emo by the second.

Edit- Ow. My brain.

Warrior Kitana
03-17-2006, 12:47 AM
I've always felt pretty sorry for Asuka during this eps. I wish the Adult Swim would've showed the Director's Cut. However during this eps we get a look into her mind and why she is the way she is.

The Director's Cut showed a pretty interesting flashback scene at the beginning with Kaji and Asuka. I may be wrong, but from what I remember they were at the beach (or atleast some shore) during night. Asuka was coming on to Kaji once again, but he turned down her advances, saying that she's much too young.Although we all know another part of the reason is because he still loves Misato. Maybe it's just me but the pitch of the VAs seems different in the Director's Cut in some scenes.

Animeforever'04
03-17-2006, 01:00 AM
what the crap that music made laugh for a while!:p

sdp
03-17-2006, 01:02 AM
during most episodes i'm actually working so i don't get to pay too much attention, don't know if this is a factor, but when i first started watching i didn't understand a thing, then is began to understand but lately ir eally don't understand anything that happens in the show, i know that is "normal" to be confused in this show but i don't understand absolutely anything.


The evangelion talkbacks are also the wackiest, i never post on them because i never understand any of the replies either :sweat:

TnAdct1
03-17-2006, 01:04 AM
Kidding aside get ready for one the most f-cked up song placements I've ever heard. If you're talking about that song that's played when Asuka gets mindraped, let me tell you something: you should see how that song is used in ReDeath. :anime:

BTW, for those people out there who still haven't watched it yet, this is the episode with the infamous "elevator" scene.

Animeforever'04
03-17-2006, 01:05 AM
umm ya! the slap, big woop!:sweat:

Hyper Shadow X
03-17-2006, 01:08 AM
I think another sence was shown that may have either been cut oe was in another eppy.

Brent Long
03-17-2006, 01:13 AM
Maybe it's just me but the pitch of the VAs seems different in the Director's Cut in some scenes.

This is because all lines were re-recorded for the Director's Cut in 2004 even if they contained the same dialogue as the original TV series dub. This is likely due to the fact that the TV series was recorded in 1997 on far different equipment resulting in a dated sound quality. Mixing them with new recordings is recipe for disaster as the final product would sound poorly mixed and inconsistent.

Another reason for the difference in pitch is that Gendo, Maya, Aoba, and most SEELE members had to be re-cast for various reasons. Other more incidental characters were also re-cast as well.

For the cast lists of both to compare go to CrystalAcids located in my sig and look up both titles.

A.Magik
03-17-2006, 01:17 AM
Anime/Manga comparisons

-Both versions have a scene where Asuka tries to bare herself to Kaji, but he rejects her for being too young. The manga has this scene set in Kaji's office, when Asuka finds out about Toji as the fourth child. The anime sets it on a battleship before meeting Shinji in episode 9 (it must be said this sequence was cut from the anime).
-In the manga version of Asuka’s phonecall with her stepmother, Shinji considers the time he heard Asuka talk in her sleep about her mother dying. He also thinks about his own mother. He suddenly remembers seeing her inside Unit 01.
-Unlike her anime self, manga Asuka seems aware that something bad has happened to Kaji.
-The manga continues on Asuka’s post-dinner/phonecall moping. In bed, she remembers the time she was a child running to tell her mother about her being chosen to become an EVA pilot. Unfortunately, her mother is giving all her attention to a stuffed doll. Looking into the room through a window, little Asuka desperately asks her mother to look at her. Back to the present, Asuka thinks about her growing uselessness as a pilot. She has never won a battle on her own. The battle with the 4th Angel (without Shinji in the manga) was won with aid by the Navy. The next two battles (5th and 8th) she needed aid. The next two (11th and 12th) she was defeated (the 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th Angels are not in the manga).
-The manga continues on Misato’s talk with Lt. Hyuga about SEELE’S EVA construction. After Hyuga leaves, Misato readies herself for the situation. She can’t cry forever; she must follow Kaji’s wishes to look for the truth. She looks at the capsule Kaji gave her.
-An added scene in the manga has Misato telling Shinji that he has to go to school. Feeding Pen Pen, Shinji is hesitant about going to school for the first time since Toji’s death. Misato tells him it’s his responsibility to get a proper education. Shinji mentions Asuka’s absence, but Misato explains that she has a college degree. She consoles Shinji that they are both in pain, but must do their jobs.
-The manga adds to the scene of the lonely classroom. Kensuke is looking around, noticing Hikari at the window. He wonders if she knows about Toji. The two then spot Shinji at the school grounds. Shinji sees them, loses courage, and runs away. Hikari then tells Kensuke her relief about Shinji’s retreat. Even if he did came back, there is no way they could be friends again. Hikari obviously blames Shinji for Toji’s death.
-In the manga, it is not Rei who tells Asuka about her synching problems. It is some boy named Kaoru (You’ll find out soon). It happens in the girl’s lavatory (not in an elevator as in the anime). Asuka refuses to believe the boy’s words, threatening to punch him for being in the girl’s room. But Shinji enters and gets in her way. He grabs Asuka’s wrists, trying to reason with her. But Asuka frees herself. Misato then comes in, shocked to see two boys in the girl’s room. Suddenly, Asuka faints. Misato crutches her away to the infirmary.
Carrying Asuka, Misato notes her return to consciousness. She rejects any help. Suddenly, there is an announcement about an Angel sighting. While her anime counterpart accepted the news, manga Asuka appears more aghast that the Angels are still coming despite all their trials and tribulations.
-Manga Shinji is at the Command Center during the battle (not in Unit 01 as in the anime). With him is Kaoru.
-The manga portrays some different things during Asuka’s mind-rape. She imagines her mother telling her younger self that she must be better than ‘that woman’s child’ (we see a man, a woman, and girl behind them).
-There is some explanation about Asuka’s mother not found in the anime. The woman wanted to bear her beloved husband children, but couldn’t. The man had an affair and left her for another woman, who bore him a child (‘that woman’s child’). Asuka’s mother than was able to deliver a child through artificial insemination at an elite sperm bank (Asuka’s a test-tube baby). But this failed to fill the woman’s loss of her husband.
-This is followed by a scene where little Asuka enters her mother’s ward, desperately wishing her attention. The mother finally notices her. She charges at Asuka, strangling her. This is followed by one more memory that breaks Asuka…but I won’t tell you what that is yet.
-Asuka’s catatonia happens sooner in the manga. The battle leaves her in a drooling blank-eyed state in the EVA, and she is taken instantly to the hospital.
-When Shinji’s demand to help Asuka is rejected by Gendo, Kaoru tells Shinji that he would end up in the same situation Asuka is in.
-In the manga, Misato’s question to Commander Ikari about the Angels joining with Adam causing Third Impact gets some reactions from the crew; Hyuga is shocked.
-Added scene has Shinji coming to Asuka’s hospital room. He is happy to see her alive, but the cheer fades once he notes her appearance: she is staring endlessly at space. Ritsuko explains that her psychological being had been hit passed its limits.
Alone, Shinji looks at Asuka. Suddenly, his hand gets the urge to…punch the chair beside him! Holding his bruised hand (guess he won’t be using it for other reasons…), Shinji mopes about his own uselessness. Rei is outside the room.

A.Magik

Spike Mcdougal
03-17-2006, 01:34 AM
If you're talking about that song that's played when Asuka gets mindraped, let me tell you something: you should see how that song is used in ReDeath. :anime:

BTW, for those people out there who still haven't watched it yet, this is the episode with the infamous "elevator" scene.
That doesnt count!!



Okay it does but that song sort of had a purpose, this was just bizzare

Brent Long
03-17-2006, 01:50 AM
The edit list is up in the thread.

TnAdct1
03-17-2006, 02:23 AM
-Added scene has Shinji coming to Asuka’s hospital room. He is happy to see her alive, but the cheer fades once he notes her appearance: she is staring endlessly at space. Ritsuko explains that her psychological being had been hit passed its limits.
Alone, Shinji looks at Asuka. Suddenly, his hand gets the urge to…punch the chair beside him! Holding his bruised hand (guess he won’t be using it for other reasons…), Shinji mopes about his own uselessness. Rei is outside the room. At least manga Shinji knows better than to jack off to a comatose girl. :anime:

Paul_Cousins
03-17-2006, 03:11 AM
At least manga Shinji knows better than to jack off to a comatose girl. :anime: Would that be the official "jump the shark" moment for the EVA series? :sweat:

Sandoz
03-17-2006, 09:29 AM
What do you guys mean by: mindrape?
The Angel essentially raped Asuka's mind. Not in a sexual sense, obviously, but it violated her and left her broken.

v1cious
03-17-2006, 09:55 AM
Would that be the official "jump the shark" moment for the EVA series? :sweat:

no, it's in EOE

Duke
03-17-2006, 10:17 AM
...What was the point of the text replacements? Esepcially since the animation/rainbow colors were rather distracting.

Still, it was another great episode. Surprised nobody's complaining about the preview saying "Rei's gonna die!"

Vallen Valiant
03-17-2006, 10:36 AM
...What was the point of the text replacements? Esepcially since the animation/rainbow colors were rather distracting.

Still, it was another great episode. Surprised nobody's complaining about the preview saying "Rei's gonna die!"

...actually....

...I am not sure it's an accurate comment...

Would misinformation be considered information?

SS4goku
03-17-2006, 11:54 AM
I fell asleep while watching this show so how good was this episode.

Master Moron
03-17-2006, 01:44 PM
What do you guys mean by: mindrape?

I never liked the term mindrape. To me mind rape means physically having sex with someone's brain. The term mindrape often gets thrown around on these message boards to make something seem more adult than it is. Though, to be fair, in the preview for this episode last week the words "Don't rape me" flashed across the screen. I'm not sure where that came from though. I don't remember anyone trying to rape Asuka in this show.

...actually....

...I am not sure it's an accurate comment...

Would misinformation be considered information?

No, it's pretty accurate. Though, remember a few weeks ago the preview said something like "Shinji watches in horror as his friends are killed right before his eyes." I don't remember any of his friends actually dying in that episode.

I fell asleep while watching this show so how good was this episode.

Freakin' awesome. I would definitely watch the repeat two Saturdays from now.

Duke
03-17-2006, 01:58 PM
I never liked the term mindrape. To me mind rape means physically having sex with someone's brain. The term mindrape often gets thrown around on these message boards to make something seem more adult than it is. Though, to be fair, in the preview for this episode last week the words "Don't rape me" flashed across the screen. I'm not sure where that came from though. I don't remember anyone trying to rape Asuka in this show.
Asuka calls it a "mind rape" herself. She also said it was defiling her.

Chrono1995
03-17-2006, 02:01 PM
I fell asleep while watching this show so how good was this episode.

Gotta second Master Moron on this one. It's very, very essential viewing in order to understand what the hell is going on in the next four episodes and EoE.

That said, it's just extremely well-done and has the best use of Handel in any series ever. Hallelujah!

Sandoz
03-17-2006, 02:08 PM
Asuka calls it a "mind rape" herself. She also said it was defiling her. Exactly. Rape doesn't just mean "forced to submit to a sex act." It can be used in a broader sense when referring to a violation or defilement (like the expression "raping the land"). In this case, it may be more technical to say that the Angel "contaminated" Asuka's mind, but to her it was very much like rape.

Inkan1969
03-17-2006, 03:07 PM
I have to admit the Handel's Messiah music totally threw me off. When I heard that angel playing it I was assuming that the 15th angel was somehow a "good guy". Maybe this really was an Angel of the Lord, instead of the weird monsters we've seen before. As a result I didn't realize that the angel was intentionally doing something bad to Asuka.

Exactly. Rape doesn't just mean "forced to submit to a sex act." It can be used in a broader sense when referring to a violation or defilement (like the expression "raping the land"). In this case, it may be more technical to say that the Angel "contaminated" Asuka's mind, but to her it was very much like rape.

Yeah, the expression "mind rape" confuses me, too. I thought all that angel was doing was downloading her memories. Kind of like a cracker. The bad memories were in her brain already, the angel didn't put them there. So I totally couldn't tell if the angel was intentionally torturing Asuka with her memories or not; I thought she was beating herself over with them.

Hmm, I remember a "Star Trek: the Next Generation" ep where one of Deanna Troi's people was using his psychic powers to mess with people's brains. They called that a mind rape. Also I remember in Digimon Tamers the D-Reaper was tormenting Juri with memories of her mother's death and a monstrous image of herself. I guess then that Juri was mindraped.

Tash
03-17-2006, 04:37 PM
Asuka calls it a "mind rape" herself. She also said it was defiling her.
I saw that on the closed captioning, but I don't think she really said it in this version. (because the CC is apperently from the director's cut for whatever reason)

On another note:
Did anyone find it amusing that the word "Discomfort" flashed by? After a bunch of serious words, they just had to choose "discomfort". I tend to associate "discomfort" with a 30-something overweight guy in a seat at the theature.

I understand what they were going for, but between that and the insert song, I couldn't take that scene seriously.

Vallen Valiant
03-17-2006, 06:21 PM
No, it's pretty accurate. Though, remember a few weeks ago the preview said something like "Shinji watches in horror as his friends are killed right before his eyes." I don't remember any of his friends actually dying in that episode.
Keep in mind that, going back ten years or even 15 years, next-episode previews tend to spoil the entire plotpoint of the next episode. It's only in recent times that previews become cryptc.

Example:

Galaxy Angel
The preview is sound only, but the sound files are played out of order. The various pieces of sound are cut from different points of the episode and it tend to sound like something completely different to the show itself.

.Hack//Sign
The preview is a dozen tiny screens all playing different part of the show at once, with all the sounds mixed together.

Mai Hime
The preview scenes are often the LEAST important scenes of the episode. (If the episode looked like it might be full of fanservice, the scenes you see in the preview would actually be all that you were going to get. The rest of the show is actually filled with angst, pain and suffering.:evil: )

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Anyway, back in the day (I feel old now...) people avoid previews if they don't want to be spoiled.

Sandoz
03-17-2006, 08:05 PM
Yeah, the expression "mind rape" confuses me, too. I thought all that angel was doing was downloading her memories. Kind of like a cracker. The bad memories were in her brain already, the angel didn't put them there. So I totally couldn't tell if the angel was intentionally torturing Asuka with her memories or not; I thought she was beating herself over with them. The Angel was definitely attacking Asuka's mind. The 15th, 16th, and 17th Angels all unleash psychological attacks on the individual pilots (Asuka, Rei, and Shinji, respectively). And Asuka will still be suffering the affects of the mindrape when we next see her.

Steiner
03-17-2006, 10:50 PM
I have to admit the Handel's Messiah music totally threw me off. When I heard that angel playing it I was assuming that the 15th angel was somehow a "good guy". Maybe this really was an Angel of the Lord, instead of the weird monsters we've seen before.

Well, the light it was shooting down on Unit 2 did look somewhat "divine", if you will.

Vallen Valiant
03-17-2006, 11:00 PM
I have to admit the Handel's Messiah music totally threw me off. When I heard that angel playing it I was assuming that the 15th angel was somehow a "good guy". Maybe this really was an Angel of the Lord, instead of the weird monsters we've seen before. As a result I didn't realize that the angel was intentionally doing something bad to Asuka.

What makes you think the Angels are the bad guys and the humans are the good guys?

I thought it's obvious by now that the line had been blurred for ages?

(Deleted for being irrelevant... I know what the Angels in EVA are, and it's got nothing to do with where the conversation was going. Not many people actually know the truth, no matter how many times they've seen the movie...)

Inkan1969
03-17-2006, 11:21 PM
What makes you think the Angels are the bad guys and the humans are the good guys?

I thought it's obvious by now that the line had been blurred for ages?

It's not uncommon for hymns and joyful songs be song as people get their fingers broken, being toasted alive on a pyre, or be slowly crushed to death under heavy rocks. It's considered a good thing to cause suffering for the sinnful, because it's believed the more suffering they get now, the less suffering they will get on the other side.

Well, I didn't say the humans were the good guys...

Hmm, I believe you. But can you provide website references to religious authorities singing joyful hymns while they were torturing accused people? Did the inquisitions ( Spanish and otherwise ) do that? Was that done to heretics? And did someone actually say that suffering in this world reduces suffering in the afterlife?

Master Moron
03-18-2006, 03:15 AM
I have to admit the Handel's Messiah music totally threw me off. When I heard that angel playing it I was assuming that the 15th angel was somehow a "good guy". Maybe this really was an Angel of the Lord, instead of the weird monsters we've seen before. As a result I didn't realize that the angel was intentionally doing something bad to Asuka.


I thought all the Angels in this show were sent by God? I don't think it ever specifically says whether they are or not. But, I would assume that they were messengers from God. I mean, why else would they be called Angels?

Vallen Valiant
03-18-2006, 03:37 AM
I thought all the Angels in this show were sent by God? I don't think it ever specifically says whether they are or not. But, I would assume that they were messengers from God. I mean, why else would they be called Angels?

Just for fun, perhaps people should read The Book of Revelation, Capter 1, verse 14?:D
Does that description sound like someone we know?:p

RAINMAN
03-18-2006, 05:43 AM
I've always felt pretty sorry for Asuka during this eps. I wish the Adult Swim would've showed the Director's Cut. However during this eps we get a look into her mind and why she is the way she is.

The Director's Cut showed a pretty interesting flashback scene at the beginning with Kaji and Asuka. I may be wrong, but from what I remember they were at the beach (or atleast some shore) during night. Asuka was coming on to Kaji once again, but he turned down her advances, saying that she's much too young.Although we all know another part of the reason is because he still loves Misato. Maybe it's just me but the pitch of the VAs seems different in the Director's Cut in some scenes.


Whoa that was real? I thougth she was only imageing that.

Vallen Valiant
03-18-2006, 11:34 AM
Whoa that was real? I thougth she was only imageing that.
That's not on the beach. That's on board the Aircraft Carrier, the night before the "Asuka Strikes!" episode.

Demonic Raven
03-18-2006, 11:52 AM
Just for fun, perhaps people should read The Book of Revelation, Capter 1, verse 14?:D
Does that description sound like someone we know?:pYou know, you actually got me curious enough to pick up a Bible... But his head and his hair were white as white wool, and as snow, and his eyes were as a flame of fire Hmm...

Vallen Valiant
03-18-2006, 12:17 PM
You know, you actually got me curious enough to pick up a Bible... Hmm...

You know what? Back then when SBS was screening Evangelion weekly on Australian TV, my school was reading through the Revelations in morning assembly.

I nearly burst into laughter when that verse was read out, and the connection was made for the first tme.

(There was another verse about how kings of the world would unite and hide underground, and in another, that a beast shall rise from beneath the Earth to fight the Angels. Can't remember where the verses are any more...)

Nftnat
03-18-2006, 05:43 PM
Asuka's barettes reminded me of plugs for the Eva; I assume that was deliberate.

Necrosis? What's that about?

dead, I thought so

2 Evas have been destroyed, and parts originally meant for units 5-6 are being used as spare parts; now we're talking Units 7-13?

He's sorry again. He's probably the sorriest...

period!?!

'you're finished'

Speaking of cats, the old roommates are getting a bit catty.

Is Asuka sterile?

Yet another threat to Asuka, if only in her mind - Rei

A quiet trip on that elevator- *SLAP!* Never mind.

hate - obvious

Is Shinji playing hookey?

More & more, this class is falling apart - what, four students out now? Granted, two of them transferred there recently, but...

Is it just me, or does Unit 02 look anything like Pen-Pen?

Messiah - I just love classical music, and this is one of my favorites, from one of my favorites. So, I'm ambivalent about this at best. In answer to someone else's question, in Clockwork Orange the main character is tortured to the tune of Beethoven's 9th. After he gets out he can't even hear classical music anymore. He takes his torturers to task for what they're doing to poor Ludwig Van, but to no avail. To quote a modern pop song, it's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah.

Everything - her past, her current sync ratios, her current living situation - it's a perfect storm of emotional breakdown, isn't it?

So this Angel does a mental attack?

I would think Rei would be better suited for this one, with no emotions to attack to speak of. But they were going to send Rei.

So this is the legendary Lance of Longinus

Okkay, I'm confused. I thought Fuyutsuki had been imprisoned, and illegally freed by Kaji, who'd had to go into hiding?

So now the Lance is orbitting the moon?

Not the best time to try to make nice with her, Shinji.

So next time, Rei dies?

Tenku
03-18-2006, 10:02 PM
I think this is a lesson for girls who pilot mecha: If you're on your period, things will go wrong. :ack:

TnAdct1
03-18-2006, 11:13 PM
More & more, this class is falling apart - what, four students out now? Granted, two of them transferred there recently, but... A lot of people are moving away from Tokyo-3 after the various Angel attacks. Eventually, Kensuke and Touji's families will be moving away from Tokyo-3 soon.

Everything - her past, her current sync ratios, her current living situation - it's a perfect storm of emotional breakdown, isn't it? Oh, just wait until the next two episodes.

So next time, Rei dies? You'll see. ;)

NahMan85
03-18-2006, 11:52 PM
You'll see. ;)
Oh I see where you're going with that one. But damn that's messed up.

Tienshin
03-19-2006, 01:20 AM
I have no idea what is going on.

Sandoz
03-19-2006, 02:17 AM
Asuka's barettes reminded me of plugs for the Eva; I assume that was deliberate. They're not just baretts, they're the nueral connectors for the Evangelion. She wears them constantly to show off her status as an Eva pilot.

Is Asuka sterile? No, but she has issues with motherhood for reasons that were made clear in this episode.

Okkay, I'm confused. I thought Fuyutsuki had been imprisoned, and illegally freed by Kaji, who'd had to go into hiding? Fuyutsuki was "kidnapped" by SEELE in secret, not formally arrested. Kaji didn't break any laws by freeing him, though SEELE wasn't at all pleased with his actions.

So now the Lance is orbitting the moon? It is, even though that's scientifically impossible.

So next time, Rei dies? Yeah. Several times.

Tash
03-19-2006, 03:40 AM
I thought that Rei died last week when she got strangled in the flashback.

Sandoz
03-19-2006, 04:02 AM
I thought that Rei died last week when she got strangled in the flashback.
She did.

Scythemantis
03-19-2006, 06:12 AM
Promotional artwork (NOT a screenshot from any episode or movie) of what this episode's angel "really" looked like:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/scythemantis/1eva116.jpg


Notice its actual face is a teeny tiny mask on the tip of what at first appears to be a "nose".

RAINMAN
03-19-2006, 06:47 AM
I have no idea what is going on.

You`re not alone. And it only gets more confusion as the show goes on.

TheGLIVEN
03-19-2006, 08:38 AM
She did.

Oh. That makes perfect sense....

Duke
03-19-2006, 11:07 AM
Wait a couple weeks and everything will be explained.

Sandoz
03-19-2006, 01:05 PM
Promotional artwork (NOT a screenshot from any episode or movie) of what this episode's angel "really" looked like:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/scythemantis/1eva116.jpg


Notice its actual face is a teeny tiny mask on the tip of what at first appears to be a "nose". That's not the 15th Angel. This design was the winner of a "Design Your Own Angel" contest that was held in Japan years ago.

Scythemantis
03-19-2006, 07:57 PM
Aw, that's what another forum claimed it was.

It's a VERY nice angel, though.

Duke
03-19-2006, 07:59 PM
That Angel looks like it infected one of the UN's helicopters and mutated into a hideous beast.

RAINMAN
03-20-2006, 03:00 AM
Wait a couple weeks and everything will be explained.

Not if your watching it for the first time.:sweat:

Tash
03-20-2006, 04:40 AM
She did.
That makes perfect sense!


Okay, this show is just TRYING to mess with us now.

Vallen Valiant
03-20-2006, 05:47 AM
I thought that Rei died last week when she got strangled in the flashback.
Here is the box art of the Bandai Evangelion model kit for Unit-Zero Kai.

If you are confused about Rei, this box art offers some clues.
http://www.toysnjoys.com/evangelion/series004.jpg

Kamaria
03-20-2006, 07:56 AM
You know, you guys are really dancing dangerously close to a spoiler here....

Zam
03-20-2006, 12:32 PM
You know, you guys are really dancing dangerously close to a spoiler here....

Agree, let them get freaked on his own...:p

NahMan85
03-20-2006, 05:16 PM
You know, you guys are really dancing dangerously close to a spoiler here....
If that's a spoiler I don't know what it is. But then again I suck at seeing suttle things like that. Nope looked at it again and still don't get it.*Shakes head* So whatever. :sad:

Sandoz
03-20-2006, 06:27 PM
If that's a spoiler I don't know what it is. But then again I suck at seeing suttle things like that. Nope looked at it again and still don't get it.*Shakes head* So whatever. :sad: I know what Vallen Valiant is trying to get at, but that isn't a particularly good picture to use. Just be sure to catch this Thursday's ep. The next couple of episodes have a lot of information and revelations packed into them.

Vallen Valiant
03-20-2006, 06:42 PM
I know what Vallen Valiant is trying to get at, but that isn't a particularly good picture to use. Just be sure to catch this Thursday's ep. The next couple of episodes have a lot of information and revelations packed into them.

I know it's not a very good clue.

But a clue is a clue. I have no intention of letting anyone figuring out the secrets without watching the show.:p

NahMan85
03-20-2006, 06:43 PM
Just be sure to catch this Thursday's ep. The next couple of episodes have a lot of information and revelations packed into them.I always do. But I missed the first couple of eps from the begining so I wouldn't get everything even I was to finish watching the end of the series and the movie because I would suspect that those episodes I missed probably make a big difference.