Adult Swim, like it once was

[dustincomplete]

I'm probably going to get ripped into for this post, but I hate anime. Always have. Just not my thing.

Does anyone wish Adult Swim would feature less anime and more Space Ghost, Brak, Aqua Teen, Venture Bro.'s, Family Guy, and Sealab? Oh, and Birdman?

Isn't there a channel from CN entirely devoted to anime or did I make that up?

[Beat]

No there isn't.

The Space Ghost people got tired of their own show and Harry Goz is dead, at which point Sealab went down the tubes. The "old" Adult Swim is gone for good.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Adult Swim has less anime then they did in the 'old days'. Back in February of 2002, less then six months into Adult Swim, it was half anime.

Now, of the 42 hours of Adult Swim, 16 hours are anime. Much less then half.

[Riza Hawkeye]

Personally, I could care less about the AS originals, with the exception of Venture Brothers. I watch Family Guy on occasion (though I've seen them all already), but I don't watch Futurama, becuase I never cared for it. So a return to 'the old days' would mean I wouldn't watch AS.

Also, it may seem like anime is shown a lot the reality is that it isn't, as Kuwabara pointed out. Comedy still runs the schedule and that's not going to change, but anime isn't going to leave anytime soon either.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

hopefully after AS is done fully expanding into 10 pm hour their originals will get some more weekday loving especially classic Space Ghost instead of just ATHF forever :)

[Youko Recca]

Besides the quality of a few shows not remaining near their prime, ASA original presentation, and a couple....problems, naw. The evolving of AS was naturally to be expected, and despite how much I take our current one for granted, no way would I want to go back.

Now, I'm balanced. I like both the comedy and the action/anime portions. The latter has been a little above the former, but both have come along alright. Venture Bros, Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo, Fullmetal Alchemist, etc. I'm good.

[One Radical Dude]

I don't want to go back to the old days. Less Anime = Less Interested in [as]

[beren]

I wouldn't mind a return to the old days, one or two nights a week, actually showing new material, I mean what is the point of expanding AS if all you are going to show is reruns, maybe they should focus on making th time they get now watchable.

[Delthayre]

Ah, the good old days, when women couldn't vote and certain kinds of people weren't allowed on golf courses.

[dustincomplete]

I don't think I was refrencing those good ol'e days, but you make them sound great!

Bring 'em back!

[NahMan85]

What would adult swim be without anime? We all know the answer to that. Comedy is great to have on AS but I for one have always liked variety better. When AS first started out I remember when Yu Yu would be on and that was tight. But I didn't even realize that it was AS. I have always watched for the anime. But the comedy portion of AS would get me to pay more attention to it. So in essence AS would be nonexistent if there were no anime. Or would have come and gone like so many things that have done the same for CN over the years.

I mean if AS never had anime and only concentrated on comedy then it most likely be that AS would not be here today, IMO.

[DarthGonzo]

Ah, the good old days, when women couldn't vote and certain kinds of people weren't allowed on golf courses.

Petridge Farm remembers....

[DarthGonzo]

What would adult swim be without anime? We all know the answer to that. Comedy is great to have on AS but I for one have always liked variety better. When AS first started out I remember when Yu Yu would be on and that was tight. But I didn't even realize that it was AS. I have always watched for the anime. But the comedy portion of AS would get me to pay more attention to it. So in essence AS would be nonexistent if there were no anime. Or would have come and gone like so many things that have done the same for CN over the years.

I mean if AS never had anime and only concentrated on comedy then it most likely be that AS would not be here today, IMO.

Who knows. But AS without the comedy probably wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as if it didnt have anime. And I think it's the addition of Family Guy and Futurama that really brought AS into the mainstream.

[NahMan85]

Who knows. But AS without the comedy probably wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as if it didnt have anime. And I think it's the addition of Family Guy and Futurama that really brought AS into the mainstream.
Yeah I guess

[Anime Guy]

/me stabs dustincomplete with a sword

But that's just my opinion. Anyway, I really don't care at this point what AS does with its schedule as I haven't really been seriously watching it for a while now. The anime they've picked up recently hasn't really been my speed so I could care less. Space Ghost on Sunday at least would be nice though. =/

[The Wolverine]

Currently, the only non-anime program on AS that's worth watching is Moral Orel.

Conversely, the only anime worth watching is FMA.

[The Myst]

No there isn't.

The Space Ghost people got tired of their own show and Harry Goz is dead, at which point Sealab went down the tubes. The "old" Adult Swim is gone for good.

I think I've said this before but I'll say it again. They did NOT get tired of doing Space Ghost, Space Ghost was ended because it was at 98 episodes and they had done everything imaginable with it. They even had a final episode, having Space Ghost spend the budget for the show on getting himself out of jail, which is the in-show reason the show didn't keep going, and they went back and redid the old Susan Powter interview from the first episode tying it all together. Not only that, but we found out what happened to the characters later. Brak, according to commercials, had his show cancelled and ended up living in a garbage dump and Space Ghost ended up a drunken hobo wandering around the Adult Swim office looking for work, according to Perfect Hair Forever.

[Sage Shinigami]

Currently, the only non-anime program on AS that's worth watching is Moral Orel.

Conversely, the only anime worth watching is FMA.

.....Soooo....the only thing on AS worth watching is FMA? :D

[Duke]

Nowadays, the only Comedy programs I watch, and enjoy, are Boondocks, Birdman, and ATHF. Whereas all the anime that has aired in the past year I've liked at least somewhat (especially Samurai Champloo, Eva, and GitS).

To me, ASC is entering the stagnation ASA was in back in 2002/2003, while ASA is entering an age of quality similar to how ASC was back in 2002/2003. Everything's flipped.

[anime_guru]

Nowadays, the only Comedy programs I watch, and enjoy, are Boondocks, Birdman, and ATHF. Whereas all the anime that has aired in the past year I've liked at least somewhat (especially Samurai Champloo, Eva, and GitS).

To me, ASC is entering the stagnation ASA was in back in 2002/2003, while ASA is entering an age of quality similar to how ASC was back in 2002/2003. Everything's flipped.

technically, I mean in my personal opinion, I can count maybe 2 or 3 ASC series I watch regularly, but the anime I practically watch it all (with the exception of FMA and Inuyasha for well reasons I don't want to get into). Being realistic, AS is getting good anime, but comedy is lacking in a lot of details

[J'onn J'onzz]

I think I've said this before but I'll say it again. They did NOT get tired of doing Space Ghost, Space Ghost was ended because it was at 98 episodes and they had done everything imaginable with it. They even had a final episode, having Space Ghost spend the budget for the show on getting himself out of jail, which is the in-show reason the show didn't keep going, and they went back and redid the old Susan Powter interview from the first episode tying it all together. Not only that, but we found out what happened to the characters later. Brak, according to commercials, had his show cancelled and ended up living in a garbage dump and Space Ghost ended up a drunken hobo wandering around the Adult Swim office looking for work, according to Perfect Hair Forever.

That doesn't mean they can't show it's reruns more often. Mostly I like the anime but I only like the 60's parodies (Sealab 2021, Space Ghost; Coast to Coast; the Brak show; Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law) on ASC.

[Space Chief]

Well, anime has and always will be an intregal part of AS. Bebop was there before Futurama, you know. Plus, Action has a rather devoted fanbase (Points to self), and while Comedy gets most of the praise (and ratings), it's still a big part of the AS experience. Granted, it's had its fair share of misses (Pilot Candidate, Milk-Chan, and Scryed, anybody?), but most of it is a lot more satisfying than the "OMG Pop culture and Randomness" of Comedy. I can appreciate both halves, though.

[Anarky]

the only anime on [as] I've liked have been Bebop & Big O...and FLCL (though I watch it to try to understand it)

i wish [as] would mature. in the beginning, it was ok to have shorts like ATHF & SeaLab but that eventually gets old. And shows like Perfect Hair, Stroker+Hoop, & Squidbillies have done nothing for me.

The Venture Bros & The Boondocks are what I mean when I want [as] to mature. What I'd really like is to see them take advantage of the material the parent company has access to, namely Vertigo Comics. I don't have time to read the comics but there's plenty of source material for [as] to produce a mature program.

Please [as], we need less Milk Chan & more revolutionary programming. I though that was the orginal purpose of the block.

[Duke]

Please [as], we need less Milk Chan & more revolutionary programming. I though that was the orginal purpose of the block.
FMA and GitS are revolutionary in a way. Or just unique. As is Champloo.

[livingfruitvirus]

i wish [as] would mature. in the beginning, it was ok to have shorts like ATHF & SeaLab but that eventually gets old. And shows like Perfect Hair, Stroker+Hoop, & Squidbillies have done nothing for me.

Well it's not like they make cheap 15 minute shows because they have too much money.

[Sage Shinigami]

Nowadays, the only Comedy programs I watch, and enjoy, are Boondocks, Birdman, and ATHF. Whereas all the anime that has aired in the past year I've liked at least somewhat (especially Samurai Champloo, Eva, and GitS).

To me, ASC is entering the stagnation ASA was in back in 2002/2003, while ASA is entering an age of quality similar to how ASC was back in 2002/2003. Everything's flipped.

Was that the period we got Kikaider, Blue Gender, and Reign? 'Cause that just sucked.


BTW, to someone else:
(Scryed a low point, by the way? I think not. Maybe not revolutionary, but its a darn fun watch. And I like PilotC, though I see why people don't like it, I guess.)

[Sketch]

I'd say Kikaider was one of the best shows AS ever aired. It depicted human beings in a way few other storys have. Especially the revaltion for Jiro that he had to have the ability to do both good and evil to truely be "human". It was almost creepy and certainly emotional. That was a really smart show and it's a pitty it did so poorly.

Now on to the matter of anime vs comedy....

Anime has always been a part of Adult Swim and it isn't going anywhere. WS comedies are a mix bag. Some are good, some suck and some are just sorta watchable... and that's the way it's always been IMO. The first batch of WS shows had a real spark to them though. They were different than the rest of the shows out there and that made them special.

Adult Swim's top rated programs are FOX reruns and that doesn't look to be changing any time soon. Futurama got a lot of causal viewers interested and it and Family Guy are the reason Adult Swim became the success it is now. ATHF and Robot Chicken certainly pulled their weight though.

AS originals or exclusive comedies compared to the anime that has aired have gotten similar ratings and few have gotten even close to Futurama and Family Guy. I love Birdman, Robot Chicken, ATHF and Venture Bros. and I did like Stroker and Hoop a bit, Home Movies was always good for a chuckle and while Boondocks is certainly a fun watch but I'm not really hooked yet... same goes for Orel but at least that's a spike of originality. Much of the rest is simply forgetable to me. I'm not so sure about Minoriteam... but the pilot wasn't bad.

Adult Swim's anime aquisitions have been pretty good overall. Some were just awful... like REIGN. Others were great but didn't last such as Case Closed (which probably would be doing pretty well on CN at this point, but AS with no nod to the 12-17 demo that ate it up was it's death bed in the US) and some are still kick'n around like Bebop, Trigun and FLCL (and that darn Inuyasha still isn't over yet). Lately Adult Swim has picked up some fan favored titles like FMA, GitS and Evangelion. With a mixed bag for ratings once again. Samurai Champloo also had a lot of potential and I think overall it did it's job.

I think both the comedy and the anime are vital to Adult Swim. WS themselves... might be thinking a little differently but there are plenty of anime fans at WS still... afterall WS still works on Toonami. Adult Swim wont be dropping anime any time soon. Sure they could fill the block with comedy now but they'd be given up on an audience that has actually been pretty faithful to them over the years. For now I'm a loyal viewer of both but I'd probably side with anime because it really needs to get Midnight on weekdays back and as much of Saturday as possible.

[Master Moron]

I'd say Kikaider was one of the best shows AS ever aired. It depicted human beings in a way few other storys have. Especially the revaltion for Jiro that he had to have the ability to do both good and evil to truely be "human". It was almost creepy and certainly emotional. That was a really smart show and it's a pitty it did so poorly.


My problem with Kikaider is that they wasted 8 episodes out of a 13 episode series on monster of the day episodes.

[Sketch]

Fair enough.

You can't really expect them not to given that the show is based off a totakutasu (sp?) in which monter of the week is the main theme.

But I kinda thought the whole "I have to kill my brothers" concept was a rather grim way of using that monster of the week concept.

[Artimus Gigan]

Everything that was on Old AS is now on DVD

so go buy the DVD's and lock yourself in a room for all eternity and watch the DVDs

there, problem solved

[Speedy Boris]

Everything that was on Old AS is now on DVD

so go buy the DVD's and lock yourself in a room for all eternity and watch the DVDs

there, problem solved From the AS FAQ on stuff not to do: Replying only with "Go get the DVD(s)." or any paraphrase of it.

Thankfully, the AS comedy has gotten slightly better lately. It's nice to have Futurama reruns back along with Family Guy, and the airing of classic ATHF episodes (last night's "Super Squatter" is one of my all-time faves), plus a surprisingly good new show, Moral Orel, equals a fun time.

The comedy isn't quite perfect- I never liked Robot Chicken, Boondocks isn't particularly funny (though I realize it's not designed to be a fast-paced laugh fest), and Stroker & Hoop is only decent. I've never seen Squidbillies but didn't have much desire to.

If the comedy could get as consistent as late 2001 and mid-2003, arguably ASC's highest points, that'd be money.

[Anime Guy]

Everything that was on Old AS is now on DVD

so go buy the DVD's and lock yourself in a room for all eternity and watch the DVDs

there, problem solvedExcept the rest of The Brak Show, WHICH WE STILL NEED WILLIAMS STREET. >=(